Current Events > The new Zelda is very likely bad because we know very little about it.

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Obviously the signs point to it being a God awful game and they don't want us to know.

Oh

Is this how it was with some of the earlier titles?

We knew everything about the game before it was released, and so since that was the case, the games were great?

I prefer to know nothing and discover everything myself instead of having them spoil every bossfight or plot twists.

Honestly, after Genshin Impact, I feel like the bar has been raised a lot and Nintendo knows it. Considering Genshin adds new areas to its world every six weeks or so, there better be more than just a few new floating islands in Tears of the Kingdom.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/7/3/AAcezfAAEIkZ.jpg

Lol, I just posted this like an hour ago because I've been feeling the same unease. If it was a brand new game, I'd give it more of a benefit of the doubt. But all we've seen so far is very little and basically the same map again. With 3 months remaining, I would have expected some more gameplay footage if they had more confidence.

HornyLevel posted...

I don't think Hogwarts is gonna win, but I'm also thinking Zelda won't either. We barely have any info and it comes out in 3 months and that's a bit concerning. There's also several other big games coming this year.

I'm fine with not knowing anything... Very interested in going in as blind as possible like I did with BotW...

random_man9119 posted...

I'm fine with not knowing anything... Very interested in going in as blind as possible like I did with BotW...

This.

miki_sauvester posted...

Honestly, after Genshin Impact, I feel like the bar has been raised a lot and Nintendo knows it. Considering Genshin adds new areas to its world every six weeks or so, there better be more than just a few new floating islands in Tears of the Kingdom.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/7/3/AAcezfAAEIkZ.jpg

I dont think most people have even heard of that.

HornyLevel posted...

Lol, I just posted this like an hour ago because I've been feeling the same unease. If it was a brand new game, I'd give it more of a benefit of the doubt. But all we've seen so far is very little and basically the same map again. With 3 months remaining, I would have expected some more gameplay footage if they had more confidence.

Your message is the reason I posted this topic.
I don't actually believe any of this garbage.

Genshin Impact may be disguised as a competitor to BotW, but actually it's just a gacha game with a BotW skin.

Glob posted...

I dont think most people have even heard of that.

Lol you're not very up to date with the gaming community, are you?

TendoDRM posted...

Lol you're not very up to date with the gaming community, are you?

No, Im not. However, notice I didnt say anything about a gaming community. Plenty of people whove never played a Zelda game in their lives have heard of the series and know that its a game. I dont think the same can be said for that.

random_man9119 posted...

I'm fine with not knowing anything... Very interested in going in as blind as possible like I did with BotW...

"I like gambling my money"

hockeybub89 posted...

"I like gambling my money"

The money involved with buying a game is not really significant; its the investment of time that matters.

Also, theres no shortage of games that reviewed very well that I didnt enjoy at all, so youre always gambling on that front really.

hockeybub89 posted...

"I like gambling my money"

What was your point exactly? Since buying games in general is a (very small) gamble?

You must not buy many games if you need to know 100% what's in it...

How much did we know about any previous Zelda game before release?

• OoT 3D Zelda woo-hoo!
• MM It's gonna be OoT but with shape-shifting masks.
• WW there will be cartoony graphics (I don't even think we knew about almost the whole game being on an ocean).
• TP we're gonna play as a dog (I remember that being literally the only thing I knew going in).
• SS I think I literally knew nothing about it. Most likely the motion controls were the hyped up thing about it.
• BotW the biggest Hyrule ever and we'll be able to go anywhere we want from the start of the game -- even fight the final boss if we want.
• TotK there will be sky islands, new powers, and we'll be spending time underground in this one. Thank God, bc one thing I noticed about BOTW was there were no caves.

AlCalavicci posted...

Is this how it was with some of the earlier titles?

We knew everything about the game before it was released, and so since that was the case, the games were great?

It's how it was with BOTW lol

it doesn't matter tbh. it could be the most soulless copy-paste job with two, maybe three new features that we've already seen in the trailers, it'll still win goty, zelda fans and nintendo fans will still praise it as the second coming and spend the year talking about how it does everything better than every other game.
then after that year's up, people will start telling the truth, just like with botw. joke fanbase, they make me ashamed to be a zelda fan and nintendo fan.

zelda will do great no matter how they do it, just look at the new pokemon game

Nukazie posted...

zelda will do great no matter how they do it, just look at the new pokemon game

facts. that shit is mobile game quality. i get disrespect every time i point it out. not allowed to voice my opinion because it's not nice. nah that shit is horrible.

This is what Nintendo always does. So that means all their games are bad?

LinkDaLunatic posted...

facts. that shit is mobile game quality. i get disrespect every time i point it out. not allowed to voice my opinion because it's not nice. nah that shit is horrible.

Nobody's going to give a shit about your opinion if your opinion just boils down to "you're wrong for liking this thing and I'm better than you".

I think it's reasonable to assume it could be worse than BOTW just because they were developing through the pandemic. I'm not concerned about the lack of information. I think that's been deliberate. Even going into BOTW there was still a lot we didn't know.

hockeybub89 posted...

"I like gambling my money"

Dude it's Zelda. Since when was betting a Zelda will be quality a high risk venture?

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

Nobody's going to give a shit about your opinion if your opinion just boils down to "you're wrong for liking this thing and I'm better than you".

my opinion boils down to "you should all expect better than this from a company absolutely swimming in your money and it's unacceptable that they've refused to evolve beyond 2003 gaming standards", not whatever you're talking about buddy
all i really want is for people to expect more out of game developers, pokemon is just the prime example of a developer doing the bare minimum for top dollar and boy howdy i hate it, it really salts my grits bud.

Did you try it, or just see video clips?

This is the same Nintendo who will announce some of their big games only months before they are released, who tend to only give small trickles of information up until a direct where they tell everything. This is inline with what Nintendo does.

It's pretty clear it's gonna be just some extended DLC and otherwise largely the same exact game again.

Nintendo fanboys will still eat that shit up like it's the best thing ever.

Glob posted...

This.

I dont think most people have even heard of that.

I think you'd be wrong on that. I don't mean to suggest it's reached anywhere close to LoZ levels in non-gamers or anything, but the game is a massive global hit and it's advertised everywhere.

emidas posted...

I think you'd be wrong on that. I don't mean to suggest it's reached anywhere close to LoZ levels in non-gamers or anything, but the game is a massive global hit and it's advertised everywhere.

Maybe in gaming communities. But as for most of the common people, its not that big. Even many of the gamers on base dont know about it But when it comes to Zelda, even my parents who know next to nothing about games could tell you a little about the Zelda games

archedsoul posted...

It's pretty clear it's gonna be just some extended DLC and otherwise largely the same exact game again.

Nintendo fanboys will still eat that shit up like it's the best thing ever.

So glad Majora's mask was made in the nineties (and released in 2000) otherwise people would have said this same shit about it.

creativerealms posted...

So glad Majora's mask was made in the nineties (and released in 2000) otherwise people would have said this same shit about it.

If I recall, people did give Majora's Mask grief around its release. The relative size of the game compared to OoT, the time loop mechanic, only four dungeons.

Fuck man i want whatever crystal orb people in this topic are using to know if the game is gonna be good or bad

AlCalavicci posted...

Is this how it was with some of the earlier titles?

We knew everything about the game before it was released, and so since that was the case, the games were great?

We have never known this little about a major Zelda game so close to release

They have been strangely quiet on its development, especially now that it's only a few months from release.

I'm not worried in the least. It'll be one of the few games I actually preorder.

This is certainly a take

neverwin posted...

Your message is the reason I posted this topic.
I don't actually believe any of this garbage.

I actually made that post after seeing this topic on the TotK subreddit. Seems like lots of people are echoing similar concerns.

https://www.reddit.com/r/tearsofthekingdom/comments/108gn31/

Has anything else outside Pokemon attempted a full blown sequel using the same exact map and taking 6 years to release?

Sony was able to do HD 1 and 2 within 5 years. Same for GoW 1 and 2. All were different games.

That's just Nintendo.

The only reason BotW got such a grand reveal is because they had so little done with the rest of Switch's lineup and they weren't ready to outright announce the Switch yet.

CyricZ posted...

If I recall, people did give Majora's Mask grief around its release. The relative size of the game compared to OoT, the time loop mechanic, only four dungeons.

Hell, there was some discourse leading up to OoT's release. A couple of months before it came out was when they revealed that you jumped automatically instead of manually. I remember a lot of people complained on Nintendo's forums about it being a step back, makes the game play itself, it inhibits exploration, etc.

There was also the reveal of Link having an earring, which...was a whole other can of worms...

LinkDaLunatic posted...

my opinion boils down to "you should all expect better than this from a company absolutely swimming in your money and it's unacceptable that they've refused to evolve beyond 2003 gaming standards", not whatever you're talking about buddy
all i really want is for people to expect more out of game developers, pokemon is just the prime example of a developer doing the bare minimum for top dollar and boy howdy i hate it, it really salts my grits bud.

lol company makes game that sets the tone for tons of copycats and revolutionized the open world concept. But somehow thats all 2003 standards

This is a bad take. BotW was the same and that game is universally loved. With that said...

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I'm putting my money on this. Not that it's a bad thing, but Nintendo does have a big track record for delaying games like this.

I'm not so sure about that, we knew quite a bit about breath of the wild and that still turned out to be a bad game

CyricZ posted...

If I recall, people did give Majora's Mask grief around its release. The relative size of the game compared to OoT, the time loop mechanic, only four dungeons.

Yes. And this game has been in development for far longer so I am expecting a meatier experience. If they took five years to make what is essentially full price DLC I will join in the hate but frankly if that's what this is we would have gotten it years ago.

Nintendo almost never releases that much info about 1st party titles til about month b4 release

legendarylemur posted...

Nintendo almost never releases that much info about 1st party titles til about month b4 release

Yeah. Many times they won't even officially announce a game until it's only a few months from being released. This Zelda game was just one of the exceptions.

Did we really know a lot about BotW prior to release? We certainly saw more gameplay, but this is a scenario where theyre using the same world and mechanics plus extras, and the extras are going to be the main draw for fans out there. Show too much, and you risk spoiling surprises, especially for a revamping of an open world as thoroughly travelled as this one. Same goes for combat mechanics, too.

If they intentionally show too much new stuff, a lot of the surprise is ruined. If they show too much of the old stuff, then there are people calling it a mere DLC padded into a new game. So theyre showing a very sparse amount.

We know very little about you. That must mean you're bad.

Zeeak4444 posted...

lol company makes game that sets the tone for tons of copycats and revolutionized the open world concept. But somehow thats all 2003 standards

was talking about pokemon with that one, buddy.

in terms of game play systems we knew more going into BotW than any past 3D zelda, with OoT a close second.

Because these two games were the largest single shift in the overall gameplay of the franchise, with OoT as the first 3D we saw a LOT of articles about core gameplay mechanics before release (but nearly every article and screenshot depicted beta environments that were not in the final release, we saw virtually nothing of Hyrule itself or what sort of environments we'd be exploring).

BotW similarly got a lot of extra pre-release attention because it represents the largest deviation from the expected formula, even moreso than OoT(which while a huge shift in core gameplay, still maintained the same basic formula established in 2D zelda games). Love or hate the changes, that level of experimentation with the franchise was a big deal and the level of transparency with a transition that huge was necessary. We still saw very very little of the world itself, mostly just the great plateau and a couple of shrines.

So like, we basically got ONE game in the franchise over 30 years that pulled out all the stops and showed us tons of new gameplay systems and multiple envrionments and puzzles that were going to be in the final game and suddenly all yall capital G Gamers with zero attention span or memory think that's just the norm. It isn't. Nintendo has always been notoriously tight lipped pretty much right up until the game is at your door.