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Jennywentnorth8
01/31/23 11:49:09 AM
#153:


Funkydog posted...
Don't mistake what I said for any attempt to minimise the evil and harm she is doing. Just because she thinks she is doing something good, doesn't mean she is.

She is doing harm to others, when she claims to want to prevent harm from others.

Due to her, more trans people will be harmed and victimised in the way she claims to want to protect women from.

She is a monster, no matter her reasoning.


A MONSTER, lmao jesus christ.
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Gwynevere
01/31/23 11:52:17 AM
#155:


Jennywentnorth8 posted...
A MONSTER, lmao jesus christ.
What else would you call someone that is pushing rhetoric that trans women are opportunistic rapists wanting to get one over on cis women?

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Funkydog
01/31/23 11:53:16 AM
#156:


Jennywentnorth8 posted...
A MONSTER, lmao jesus christ.
I didn't capitalise it as she's not quite that far yet, just close.

But yes. She is actively pushing to strip a minority of their rights and coddling up with terrible people who want to strip more than just trans people of basic human rights. Her efforts to support these people and groups will see Britons stripped of basic rights we've enjoyed for decades and regress us back to a religious theocracy - despite the overwhelming support for these rights. Rights that she even supports.

Her hate for trans people is so great she seems clearly willing to strip the very people she wants to protect of their basic rights.

Also what the others said.

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Jennywentnorth8
01/31/23 11:53:27 AM
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Yeah dude when I think of all the monsters of history obviously it goes something like Adolf Hitler, Ted Bundy, and some rich lady who shit posts on twitter
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CyricZ
01/31/23 11:53:54 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
I'm not personally affected by the complaints either way.
Then there's no reason for you to be here.


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ANort175
01/31/23 11:55:30 AM
#160:


Jennywentnorth8 posted...
Yeah dude when I think of all the monsters of history obviously it goes something like Adolf Hitler, Ted Bundy, and some rich lady who shit posts on twitter

Legitimately one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen here on CE.

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Funkydog
01/31/23 11:55:35 AM
#161:


Jennywentnorth8 posted...
Yeah dude when I think of all the monsters of history obviously it goes something like Adolf Hitler, Ted Bundy, and some rich lady who shit posts on twitter
I don't recall saying she was on Hitler's level so your hysterical claims just come off as ludicrous as they are.

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well-excuse-me
01/31/23 11:56:28 AM
#162:


Jenni is posting utter horseshit on two threads at once...impressive
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CyricZ
01/31/23 12:00:42 PM
#163:


Funkydog posted...
She is a monster, no matter her reasoning.
I try to stop myself before using dehumanizing terms. What's she's doing is certainly monstrous, but it's also very human. Using one's own history of abuse to justify the abuse of others is one of the most tragically human things ever.

In a better world, she'd be getting help to better deal with her trauma. As it stands, she has money and people who will latch on to her for use of that money, tell her she's doing the right thing, and apparently no one in her life that she trusts to tell her of the harm she's doing.

And the fact that she rose to prominence as the author of a beloved children's series that has been formative for so many people who are now adults just complicates the matter even more, makes her very unique among "monstrous" cohorts.

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Jennywentnorth8
01/31/23 12:05:33 PM
#164:


Funkydog posted...
I don't recall saying she was on Hitler's level so your hysterical claims just come off as ludicrous as they are.

So you wouldn't use the word "Monster" to describe Hitler? Or is he a "super monster!". JK rowling is an asshole who trolls on twitter. Calling her a word like "monster" for shit posting is what is fucking ludicrous.
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Jennywentnorth8
01/31/23 12:07:44 PM
#165:


well-excuse-me posted...
Jenni is posting utter horseshit on two threads at once...impressive

Should I send a PM to Rowling asking her if it is OK to jerk off to her? Or does her monster status mean she loses that luxury? It is hard to keep up
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Funkydog
01/31/23 12:11:31 PM
#166:


CyricZ posted...
I try to stop myself before using dehumanizing terms. What's she's doing is certainly monstrous, but it's also very human. Using one's own history of abuse to justify the abuse of others is one of the most tragically human things ever.

In a better world, she'd be getting help to better deal with her trauma. As it stands, she has money and people who will latch on to her for use of that money, tell her she's doing the right thing, and apparently no one in her life that she trusts to tell her of the harm she's doing.

And the fact that she rose to prominence as the author of a beloved children's series that has been formative for so many people who are now adults just complicates the matter even more, makes her very unique among "monstrous" cohorts.
That is the sad thing about humans. We can all use our humanity to be evil, monstrous or inflict harm upon others. I waver on whether calling individuals/groups in history evil/monsters as often they very much are, but it can be easy to disassociate them from the rest of humanity when time and time again we've shown how easy it is for people to be so utterly terrible.

Ultimately, I think we should call evil/monsters out for what they are, as long as we remember they are still people. I do think I would normally avoid such charged language, but not like anyone on CE is going to change their minds at this point so didn't feel it really mattered that much.

You are right about her using trauma in a terrible way. It's absolute awful what happened to her, and I do wish she had dealt with it better - or rather, not had terrible people take advantage to twist her into what she has now become as I think without it she could very well be a prominent supporter of trans people. They are victims just like her, and no one should have to ever suffer that from the evil parts of society.


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CyricZ
01/31/23 12:13:37 PM
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Jennywentnorth8 posted...
So you wouldn't use the word "Monster" to describe Hitler? Or is he a "super monster!". JK rowling is an asshole who trolls on twitter. Calling her a word like "monster" for shit posting is what is fucking ludicrous.
Go away.

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Jennywentnorth8
01/31/23 12:14:05 PM
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Awww you ad hominemin me on an internet message bro? I am so hurt, you are such a monster
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Pitlord_Special
01/31/23 12:15:02 PM
#170:


Triggering the libs is much like an addiction. One must become more and more outrageous to keep the flow of liberal tears coming and get that attention high.


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TheOtherMike
01/31/23 12:16:24 PM
#171:


Jennywentnorth8 posted...
So you wouldn't use the word "Monster" to describe Hitler? Or is he a "super monster!". JK rowling is an asshole who trolls on twitter. Calling her a word like "monster" for shit posting is what is fucking ludicrous.

You're making your trolling too obvious. No one is this stupid.

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Funkydog
01/31/23 12:23:15 PM
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I'm kinda glad I used monster now, given it seems to have set someone off to trolling this poorly. Otherwise I was probably gonna edit it out.

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Jennywentnorth8
01/31/23 12:27:20 PM
#173:


Funkydog posted...
I'm kinda glad I used monster now, given it seems to have set someone off to trolling this poorly. Otherwise I was probably gonna edit it out.

I like how I get dogpiled by like 4 different people just straight insulting me, with me having yet to insult anyone else, and I am the one who "got set off". The delusions you people come up with to make yourself feel like you are winning on a dead internet message board are incredible
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well-excuse-me
01/31/23 1:33:57 PM
#174:


Yawn
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TMOG
01/31/23 1:37:22 PM
#175:


Jennywentnorth8 posted...
I like how I get dogpiled by like 4 different people just straight insulting me, with me having yet to insult anyone else, and I am the one who "got set off". The delusions you people come up with to make yourself feel like you are winning on a dead internet message board are incredible
You're literally having a melty because people aren't on the side of a transphobic author.
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CyricZ
01/31/23 1:48:06 PM
#177:


Jennywentnorth8 posted...
I like how I get dogpiled by like 4 different people just straight insulting me, with me having yet to insult anyone else, and I am the one who "got set off". The delusions you people come up with to make yourself feel like you are winning on a dead internet message board are incredible

Pictured: Me insulting someone:

CyricZ posted...
Go away.


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Jennywentnorth8
01/31/23 2:10:58 PM
#178:


TMOG posted...
You're literally having a melty because people aren't on the side of a transphobic author.

It is crazy I knew what your username was just by you typing "melty", you need to lay off that word for a bit bud.
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TMOG
01/31/23 2:17:52 PM
#179:


Jennywentnorth8 posted...
It is crazy I knew what your username was just by you typing "melty", you need to lay off that word for a bit bud.
I'll make a deal with you, I'll stop saying "melty" when you stop having one
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Jennywentnorth8
01/31/23 2:22:24 PM
#180:


TMOG posted...
I'll make a deal with you, I'll stop saying "melty" when you stop having one

I mean I'm cool with it. I've seen you call just about anything a "melty", you have made it lose it's edge completely, it has no meaning anymore. Just trying to help you get your edge back. You would probably get more rage posts towards you like you want if you used better bait ya know. That bait is all used up.
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Etna
01/31/23 2:31:00 PM
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Wait. When did Rowling call for a mass extermination of trans folx? Thats a bold one on her part.

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well-excuse-me
01/31/23 2:31:16 PM
#182:


Lol lookit the melti
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TMOG
01/31/23 2:35:40 PM
#183:


Jennywentnorth8 posted...
I mean I'm cool with it. I've seen you call just about anything a "melty", you have made it lose it's edge completely, it has no meaning anymore. Just trying to help you get your edge back. You would probably get more rage posts towards you like you want if you used better bait ya know. That bait is all used up.
You say that despite the fact that it obviously worked on you lol
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CyricZ
01/31/23 2:37:09 PM
#184:


Etna posted...
Wait. When did Rowling call for a mass extermination of trans folx? Thats a bold one on her part.
Genocide is a process, not an event.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/3/0/AABkePAAEAjO.jpg

We don't have to wait for mass graves to happen to call something what it is following the steps of very closely.

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Etna
01/31/23 2:46:58 PM
#185:


CyricZ posted...
Genocide is a process, not an event.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/3/0/AABkePAAEAjO.jpg

We don't have to wait for mass graves to happen to call something what it is following the steps of very closely.
Uhh that seems kinda disingenuous and cheapens the very serious thing. Going by that chart, you can classify a lot of other things as a "beginning stages of a genocide".

We shouldn't go down that road.

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Jennywentnorth8
01/31/23 2:48:11 PM
#186:


TMOG posted...
You say that despite the fact that it obviously worked on you lol

I can't just have a conversation with a person I recognize? This is what I mean man. If you call this, me just talking to you like a human being, a melty, it really just undercuts everything you call a melty that really is a melty. But here listen I get it, it's your gimmick, I'll do you a solid, it's a shame to leave that bait in the water for so long

How DARE you refer to my written work as a melty. I worked LONG and hard on those posts, with ample research and care. For some half nosed little weasel to worm his way into my sanctuary and even suggest a BEING SUCH AS I could be CAPABLE of being a MELTY MAN is an accusation that will not go unanswered. Within the fortnight you will be receiving a message from my second informing you of a NEUTRAL location (pending your second's approval) that we may have a duel to settle this matter. With god as my witness, gone are the days where you make this accusation on a message board as great and esteemed as this. You will pay for this.

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CyricZ
01/31/23 2:57:45 PM
#187:


Etna posted...
Uhh that seems kinda disingenuous and cheapens the very serious thing. Going by that chart, you can classify a lot of other things as a "beginning stages of a genocide".

We shouldn't go down that road.
I'm sorry you disagree with that but believe me, we are at Stage 7.

https://www.aclu.org/legislative-attacks-on-lgbtq-rights

But hey, I'm listening if you want to offer examples of "a lot of other things".

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Gobstoppers12
01/31/23 3:08:26 PM
#188:


CyricZ posted...
Then there's no reason for you to be here.
Neither of us do, really. It's a meaningless topic in general. I'm here for curiosity more than anything else, but you're here for... what?

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Etna
01/31/23 3:09:32 PM
#189:


CyricZ posted...
I'm sorry you disagree with that but believe me, we are at Stage 7.

https://www.aclu.org/legislative-attacks-on-lgbtq-rights

But hey, I'm listening if you want to offer examples of "a lot of other things".
If all ot takes is to divide people by "us and them" then practically every group can fit that definition.

But I'm not going to cheapen something so serious by aligning people to that.

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CyricZ
01/31/23 3:19:39 PM
#190:


Etna posted...
If all ot takes is to divide people by "us and them" then practically every group can fit that definition.

But I'm not going to cheapen something so serious by aligning people to that.
Not Stage 1.

Stage 7.

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Etna
01/31/23 3:21:22 PM
#191:


CyricZ posted...
Not Stage 1.

Stage 7.
So what stage does it need to be for you to personally consider it to be a "genocide"? Stage 7?

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sugarysyntax
01/31/23 3:22:47 PM
#192:


she's right
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HHH_is_the_game
01/31/23 3:30:25 PM
#193:


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Are you really comparing JKR to Hitler....?

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CyricZ
01/31/23 3:59:30 PM
#194:


Etna posted...
So what stage does it need to be for you to personally consider it to be a "genocide"? Stage 7?
I would have hoped it'd be obvious, but the further down you go, the more obvious the argument becomes.

It's not a flipped switch and it's not a single event. It's a gradual slide. And we are sliding.

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the_pika
01/31/23 4:01:16 PM
#195:


CyricZ posted...
I would have hoped it'd be obvious, but the further down you go, the more obvious the argument becomes.

It's not a flipped switch and it's not a single event. It's a gradual slide. And we are sliding.

you do realize that the graph you posted applies to every minority in the US during the trump era? The specialized police units, calling them disease names or vermin, the dehumanization, etc

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CyricZ
01/31/23 4:02:54 PM
#196:


the_pika posted...
you do realize that the graph you posted applies to every minority in the US during the trump era? The specialized police units, calling them disease names or vermin, the dehumanization, etc
Yup.

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Gwynevere
01/31/23 4:03:14 PM
#197:


CyricZ posted...
Not Stage 1.

Stage 7.
This. There's already laws getting passed barring trans youth from starting transition, and at least one state proposing to extend the age to 25.

The hysteria is spiraling.

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TMOG
01/31/23 4:03:42 PM
#198:


the_pika posted...
you do realize that the graph you posted applies to every minority in the US during the trump era? The specialized police units, calling them disease names or vermin, the dehumanization, etc
What exactly is your argument supposed to be here?

Everybody knows that Trump and his cult hate minorities, so... glad you agree?
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masterpug53
01/31/23 4:07:15 PM
#199:


If you wait until history's mistakes have been repeated in their full horrifying effect before acknowledging the similarities, then you haven't really learned a damn thing from history.

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Funkydog
01/31/23 4:17:50 PM
#200:


the_pika posted...
you do realize that the graph you posted applies to every minority in the US during the trump era? The specialized police units, calling them disease names or vermin, the dehumanization, etc
What's the phrase people like to use

"He's closely getting it?"

"He about to close!"

On the tip of my tongue.

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SoTrue
01/31/23 8:30:42 PM
#201:


It always amazes me that people living in a country that committed genocide have such a problem recognizing the things that lead up to it.
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hockeybub89
01/31/23 8:43:16 PM
#202:


SoTrue posted...
It always amazes me that people living in a country that committed genocide have such a problem recognizing the things that lead up to it.
You can't even get people to agree that there was a genocide against the American Indians. Because they define "genocide" as "Nazi concentration camp" as if it's a competition and only the worst can win the title.

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