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AlBundy33 02/06/23 9:49:29 AM #1: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/9/1/AAa0VcAAEKD_.jpg --- Shoe Salesman. Four Touchdowns, one game. This post may contain my opinion. My opinions may be offensive, deal with it ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DipDipDiver 02/06/23 9:51:11 AM #2: |
The graphic is correct, it's just that the average driver is too stupid to actually do it that way ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CommonStar 02/06/23 9:51:53 AM #3: |
This is actually the correct way to do it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 02/06/23 9:52:36 AM #4: |
What's supposed to happen on the road and what actually happens are sometimes two different things. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonTentacles 02/06/23 9:52:36 AM #5: |
I soon as I see construction, I merge to the open lane ASAP. It's dog eat dog and people won't let you in unless you take that shit. As soon as you see an opening, you gotta take it! >_> Zipper merge is correct, but there's too many assholes who don't abide by that and try to double (or more....) merge in a spot between cars. I just merge early if I can to try and avoid that lol --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bluezero 02/06/23 9:53:04 AM #7: |
DipDipDiver posted... The graphic is correct, it's just that the average driver is too stupid to actually do it that way100% this --- i7-12700F - 3080 - 32GB 3200 - 1440p Ultrawide ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSavageDragon 02/06/23 9:54:56 AM #8: |
NeonTentacles posted... I soon as I see construction, I merge to the open lane ASAP. It's dog eat dog and people won't let you in unless you take that shit. As soon as you see an opening, you gotta take it! >_> This. More often than not I end up waiting on the end of the right lane hoping someone has the decency to let me merge. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InTheEyesOfFire 02/06/23 9:55:12 AM #9: |
DipDipDiver posted... The graphic is correct, it's just that the average driver is too stupid to actually do it that way --- "Oh man would you just shut up already, how come all you sword guys have to talk about how cool your swords are?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AloneIBreak 02/06/23 9:55:37 AM #10: |
This would work but too many people take it personally if you wait too long to merge and try not to let you in. --- "The civilized man, where he cannot admire, will aim rather at understanding than at reprobating." - Bertrand Russell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlBundy33 02/06/23 9:55:45 AM #11: |
By the time you see the cones where the lane is closed, you should have already been in the other lane, zipper merging only works at a certain traffic density, if people started merging when they see Right lane closed, 2 miles ahead, there wouldnt be an issue --- Shoe Salesman. Four Touchdowns, one game. This post may contain my opinion. My opinions may be offensive, deal with it ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dakimakura 02/06/23 9:56:11 AM #12: |
Makes sense but sounds impossible to accomplish given zero communication channels among drivers. --- This is signature Not waste of data at all ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bluezero 02/06/23 9:57:08 AM #13: |
AlBundy33 posted... By the time you see the cones where the lane is closed, you should have already been in the other lane, zipper merging only works at a certain traffic density, if people started merging when they see Right lane closed, 2 miles ahead, there wouldnt be an issueYes there would, as the graphic explains. You'd have 2 miles of unused road, leading to a bigger backup. --- i7-12700F - 3080 - 32GB 3200 - 1440p Ultrawide ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 02/06/23 10:02:09 AM #14: |
One time, I was in a long traffic jam on the highway that was caused by a left lane being closed up ahead. I was in the lane next to the left lane and people kept speeding up the left lane. I guess the trucker in front of me took issue with watching all the people speeding by and started blocking the left lane with his vehicle. --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 02/06/23 10:03:51 AM #15: |
The only time I ever curse while driving, it's because I'm yelling "LIKE A FUCKING ZIPPER!!!" --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonTentacles 02/06/23 10:07:10 AM #17: |
bluezero posted... Yes there would, as the graphic explains. You'd have 2 miles of unused road, leading to a bigger backup.You either merge now or later, i don't think it really matters. There's basically-infinite road behind you at both points >_> --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 02/06/23 10:09:26 AM #18: |
NeonTentacles posted... You either merge now or later, i don't think it really matters. There's basically-infinite road behind you at both points >_>You merge later, which leads to less congestion and headache because now people aren't trying to force themselves into open lane of traffic at random points and creating confusion and frustration for everyone else. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 02/06/23 10:10:09 AM #19: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I cannot confirm, nor deny, those allegations. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eaglei3 02/06/23 10:11:04 AM #20: |
The only reason the zipper is the way it is supposed to work is cause when early merging happens, a fleet of cars will zoom down the open road space to merge by the construction zone. The people who merged early will now be pissed at those people and will try to not let them in cause they feel like the people utilizing the full road cheated. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 02/06/23 10:11:04 AM #21: |
NeonTentacles posted... You either merge now or later, i don't think it really matters. There's basically-infinite road behind you at both points >_>That's the way I see it. What really causes the backup is everyone having to slow down/stop to let people over. If you have an opening take it. --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonTentacles 02/06/23 10:13:34 AM #22: |
Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... That's the way I see it. What really causes the backup is everyone having to slow down/stop to let people over. If you have an opening take it.Yeah that's how I see it. You take the opening when you can and you're still moving with traffic. Once you get to the end, you may have to stop and wait. And then people get impatient and start cutting each other off and slow down everything --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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radical_rhino 02/06/23 10:15:27 AM #23: |
Thats why I never feel bad about blowing past everyone in the unoccupied lane and merging at the last second. --- .____ [____]===0 . . . . Ye olde beating stick. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 02/06/23 10:15:30 AM #24: |
Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... That's the way I see it. What really causes the backup is everyone having to slow down/stop to let people over. If you have an opening take it. NeonTentacles posted... Yeah that's how I see it. You take the opening when you can and you're still moving with traffic. Once you get to the end, you may have to stop and wait. And then people get impatient and start cutting each other off and slow down everything This issue is... literally this thinking. If everyone does it the right way, it works to perfection. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 02/06/23 10:15:46 AM #25: |
NeonTentacles posted... Yeah that's how I see it. You take the opening when you can and you're still moving with traffic. Once you get to the end, you may have to stop and wait. And then people get impatient and start cutting each other off and slow down everythingPeople who live and die by the zipper are idealists. People who merge early are realists. --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 02/06/23 10:16:46 AM #26: |
bigblu89 posted... If everyone does it the right way, it works to perfectionBut I've experienced life for 35 years and know that everyone will never do things the right way --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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__starsnostars 02/06/23 10:16:58 AM #27: |
I suspect the problem isn't zipper merging. It's Americans. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDyXIXyAZq0 Please consider adopting a cat from your SPCA or local animal shelter. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid_Seb 02/06/23 10:17:16 AM #28: |
It is ideal but people are idiots and will get butthurt about letting someone in front of them. I assume it's the same trolls that get off on not letting faster drivers go around them. The level of blatant asshole-ery on the road is insane, but being a douche isn't illegal so nothing can be done about it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bluezero 02/06/23 10:18:00 AM #29: |
__starsnostars posted... I suspect the problem isn't zipper merging. It's Americans.We have a winner --- i7-12700F - 3080 - 32GB 3200 - 1440p Ultrawide ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonTentacles 02/06/23 10:18:41 AM #30: |
Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... People who live and die by the zipper are idealists. People who merge early are realists.Lol yeah. Zipper works in theory but individual human nature is way too chaotic and asshole-ish to tame themselves for this. Anyone who's driven more than a day knows this would never fly in the real driving world --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mew 02/06/23 10:19:43 AM #31: |
People would rather crash their car than let you merge like that lol --- https://gfycat.com/tensescarygermanshepherd ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Delta_Force 02/06/23 10:20:30 AM #32: |
Dakimakura posted... Makes sense but sounds impossible to accomplish given zero communication channels among drivers. What do you mean zero communication channels? Can't you see me violently waiving my middle finger? That's a communication channel right there! /S --- More Bush on Obama's Clinton! What the hell does "should of" mean? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heavy_D_Forever 02/06/23 10:22:25 AM #33: |
Literally all traffic jams on a highway are caused by people following too closely behind the car in front of them. Assuming there are no lane closures or anything like that. If everyone would just back the fuck off a bit then you would never have to come to a complete stop on the highway. The majority of drivers are fucking morons. --- E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonTentacles 02/06/23 10:22:57 AM #34: |
bigblu89 posted... This issue is... literally this thinking.But no one will. It's like saying "if everyone did everything right, we wouldnt need laws" It's impossible --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SHRlKE 02/06/23 10:23:58 AM #35: |
Heavy_D_Forever posted... Literally all traffic jams on a highway are caused by people following too closely behind the car in front of them. Assuming there are no lane closures or anything like that. exactly I tend to slow right down when there is congestion So Im always moving even if its really slowly. Amazed how many people get posted off cause you leave more than a cars gap in front of you and start flashing and gesticulating wildly. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KainWind 02/06/23 10:24:05 AM #36: |
Imagine every car not being bumper to bumper --- Momentai ... Copied to Clipboard!
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K181 02/06/23 10:35:24 AM #37: |
DipDipDiver posted... The graphic is correct, it's just that the average driver is too stupid to actually do it that way This. Zipper merge is actually the correct way to maximize traffic flow if everybody followed it, and Ive seen construction signs advocating that drivers do just that. But clearly not everybody follows it, and youll see instances of people trying to zoom by and cut in at the absolute last second. Also, for reference, I have TC tagged with road rage, so past me was very concerned with his prior posts on driving, --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 02/06/23 11:15:03 AM #38: |
DipDipDiver posted... The graphic is correct, it's just that the average driver is too stupid to actually do it that way --- 11/8/2022 - The day the Blue Wall intercepted the Red Wave. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 02/06/23 11:15:59 AM #39: |
Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... But I've experienced life for 35 years and know that everyone will never do things the right waySo you counter to that is not to do it the right way also? Some people burn their food every time they cook, doesnt mean Im going to ruin my meal just because everyone will never do thing the right way Be the change you want to see in the world --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 02/06/23 11:18:06 AM #40: |
NeonTentacles posted... But no one will. It's like saying "if everyone did everything right, we wouldnt need laws" It's impossibleI mean, there was a time where theyre werent stop signs, but (some) people were still smart enough to slow down when approaching an intersection. It was the dummies that caused us to implement traffic laws. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Scintillant 02/06/23 11:21:16 AM #41: |
No one leaves space between cars where I live to zipper merge. It's bumper to bumper every hour of the day. --- whats cat up to ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 02/06/23 11:22:48 AM #42: |
bigblu89 posted... So you counter to that is not to do it the right way also?I signal and get over when I have an opening that won't disrupt the person I'm merging in front of knowing that in all likelihood if I waited until the correct time to zipper I may not be let in. After I merge, I still allow people to zipper in because I know how it ideally should work --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 02/06/23 11:24:33 AM #43: |
bigblu89 posted... Some people burn their food every time they cook, doesnt mean Im going to ruin my meal just because everyone will never do thing the right wayThis is a shit analogy because when cooking I don't have to worry about what other people are doing. I hope you aren't just thinking about what you're doing and paying no attention to others while driving --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pkmnlord 02/06/23 11:25:56 AM #44: |
People be like "there's a bigger clog if everyone merges early!" Well then the motherfucker at the front of the line better move their fucking ass until they're past the construction zone and the line can disperse again! --- http://i.imgur.com/MP7ZznH.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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realnifty1 02/06/23 11:27:55 AM #45: |
There is a better graphic out there I have seen before that accounts for free flowing traffic ( merge when it is clear ) and high density ( zipper at the merge point ). But if you are stopping just to merge in, then you are doing it wrong and causing everything to be slower. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 02/06/23 11:30:10 AM #46: |
Zipper is what's actually supposed to happen though. If you merge every other car, it keeps both lanes moving, as opposed to one lane screeching to a stop, because of 1 car stopping and waiting for an opening, or a car getting cut off and slamming on their brakes. But people don't follow it because they want to save as much time as possible and aggressively not let any cars in front of them. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AsucaHayashi 02/06/23 11:31:05 AM #47: |
for every efficient way to do any given thing, there's about 100 ways for one person to completely fuck it up for everyone else. --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Frosted_Midna 02/06/23 11:34:03 AM #48: |
Too many dumb drivers don't know this. --- It's more than good, it's alive! Warning: May contain stone hat pieces http://i.imgur.com/N6v5qZx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 02/06/23 11:34:35 AM #49: |
There are literally "ALTERNATE MERGE" signs on my work commute and motherfuckers still race to the end and deliberately block others from getting in front of them, even if traffic is slow. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Suolevram 02/06/23 11:38:40 AM #50: |
AlBundy33 posted... By the time you see the cones where the lane is closed, you should have already been in the other lane, zipper merging only works at a certain traffic density, if people started merging when they see Right lane closed, 2 miles ahead, there wouldnt be an issueLocally, hell, all over the US they occasionally remember to put out the warning signs. So often there is no sign, just an abrupt change to the flow of traffic and then you see the sign 10 feet in front of the cones. I'm usually very aware well ahead of time, but it never fails you get 2-5 people who try to haul ass and forcefully merge. --- fay ce que vouldras ... Copied to Clipboard!
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