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Calwings 02/23/23 6:10:58 PM #1:	It's Thursday, you know what that means! https://i.imgur.com/bIv6ksz.jpg Tonight's show is a bit of a family affair, with the main event pitting the defending BattleBots champion Tantrum against its sibling bot from the same team, Blip. We also have both Whyachi family bots in action tonight as Hydra takes on Free Shipping and Fusion takes on Huge. As a reminder, please put any discussion of match results under spoiler tags until 24 hours after the episode airs out of consideration for people who can't watch the episode live, especially if you decide to watch the episode early on Discovery+ before it airs on TV. Showtime is a little under two hours away. --- https://i.imgur.com/PmF1p9q.jpg <cite>Calwings posted [p:971762898] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>It's Thursday, you know what that means!https://i.imgur.com/bIv6ksz.jpgTonight's show is a bit of a family affair, with the main event pitting the defending BattleBots champion Tantrum against its sibling bot from the same team, Blip. We also have both Whyachi family bots in action tonight as Hydra takes on Free Shipping and Fusion takes on Huge. As a reminder, please put any discussion of match results under spoiler tags until 24 hours after the episode airs out of consideration for people who can't watch the episode live, especially if you decide to watch the episode early on Discovery+ before it airs on TV. Showtime is a little under two hours away.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calwings 02/23/23 8:02:54 PM #2:	IT'S ROBOT FIGHTIN' TIME! Free Shipping vs. Hydra leads off the show this week ~~and to the surprise of no one, Hydra took Free Shipping to flip city and absolutely dominated.~~ --- https://i.imgur.com/PmF1p9q.jpg <cite>Calwings posted [p:971765120] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>IT'S ROBOT FIGHTIN' TIME! Free Shipping vs. Hydra leads off the show this week and to the surprise of no one, Hydra took Free Shipping to flip city and absolutely dominated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toreysback 02/23/23 8:04:10 PM #3:	here we go gotta think this is hydra's match ~~well that was easy~~ --- Bert and Nan Flossie and Freddie <cite>toreysback posted [p:971765136] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>here we gogotta think this is hydra's matchwell that was easy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calwings 02/23/23 8:27:11 PM #4:	~~1-1 night for Team Whyachi tonight as Fusion gets scalped by Huge~~. Lock-Jaw vs. Glitch is up next. --- https://i.imgur.com/PmF1p9q.jpg <cite>Calwings posted [p:971765579] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>1-1 night for Team Whyachi tonight as Fusion gets scalped by Huge. Lock-Jaw vs. Glitch is up next.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toreysback 02/23/23 8:32:25 PM #5:	~~huge looked strong there~~ --- Bert and Nan Flossie and Freddie <cite>toreysback posted [p:971765670] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>huge looked strong there</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KFHEWUI 02/23/23 8:33:17 PM #6:	Terrotops and Slammo Two new bots getting their time to shine tonight. --- R.I.P. SaikyoMog! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-seAIeu3Og "Me and my swole chihuahua are about to blow you away, Becky," Anya Forger, SPYxFAMILY. <cite>KFHEWUI posted [p:971765694] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>Terrotops and SlammoTwo new bots getting their time to shine tonight.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calwings 02/23/23 8:59:32 PM #7:	~~Lock-Jaw wins the battle of the unreliable vertical spinners, and Beta wins the battle of the hammers. In John Reid we trust!~~ KFHEWUI posted... Terrotops and Slammo Two new bots getting their time to shine tonight. Slammo isn't new. The bot was here last season (0-3) and the season before (2-3), plus Craig Danby has competed with other bots before. Between BattleBots and Robot Wars, I've never seen a good Craig Danby bot, and it's not for a lack of trying either. One of his bots over in RW basically exploded. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g32RL-fwN7c --- https://i.imgur.com/PmF1p9q.jpg <cite>Calwings posted [p:971766191] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>Lock-Jaw wins the battle of the unreliable vertical spinners, and Beta wins the battle of the hammers. In John Reid we trust!KFHEWUI posted...</cite><quote>Terrotops and SlammoTwo new bots getting their time to shine tonight.</quote>Slammo isn't new. The bot was here last season (0-3) and the season before (2-3), plus Craig Danby has competed with other bots before. Between BattleBots and Robot Wars, I've never seen a good Craig Danby bot, and it's not for a lack of trying either. One of his bots over in RW basically exploded.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g32RL-fwN7c</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calwings 02/23/23 9:33:07 PM #8:	~~Quantum moves to 3-0 with a big win over Black Dragon, and Slammo jobs in true Craig Danby fashion as Terrortops wins its debut fight.~~ All that's left is some ad breaks and then the main event. --- https://i.imgur.com/PmF1p9q.jpg <cite>Calwings posted [p:971766801] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>Quantum moves to 3-0 with a big win over Black Dragon, and Slammo jobs in true Craig Danby fashion as Terrortops wins its debut fight. All that's left is some ad breaks and then the main event.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toreysback 02/23/23 9:35:09 PM #9:	Calwings posted... All that's left is a tsunami of ad breaks <_< --- Bert and Nan Flossie and Freddie <cite>toreysback posted [p:971766838] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>Calwings posted... </cite><quote>All that's left is a tsunami of ad breaks</quote><_<</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 02/23/23 9:51:12 PM #10:	Okay, I wanna rant a bit. The stick rules are overwhelmingly favorable to Quantum. Oh whoops, we got stuck again, it's going to the judges. With the last thing in the fight you saw was me biting into the other bot. And I'm not saying that Quantum didn't deserve a win, but the rule just gives it an insane advantage. --- Gheb is my other account <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:971767084] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>Okay, I wanna rant a bit.The stick rules are overwhelmingly favorable to Quantum. Oh whoops, we got stuck again, it's going to the judges. With the last thing in the fight you saw was me biting into the other bot. And I'm not saying that Quantum didn't deserve a win, but the rule just gives it an insane advantage. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toreysback 02/23/23 9:55:59 PM #11:	~~blip had its way with tantrum~~ --- Bert and Nan Flossie and Freddie <cite>toreysback posted [p:971767173] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>blip had its way with tantrum</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calwings 02/23/23 10:07:10 PM #12:	~~Blip wins the battle of the siblings, but the fight may have been very different if Tantrum didn't catch fire and lose its weapon after the first flip.~~ Compsognathus posted... Okay, I wanna rant a bit. The stick rules are overwhelmingly favorable to Quantum. Oh whoops, we got stuck again, it's going to the judges. With the last thing in the fight you saw was me biting into the other bot. And I'm not saying that Quantum didn't deserve a win, but the rule just gives it an insane advantage. Quantum is already using a weapon type that the rules are unfavorable to in other ways though. Both the "release after 20 seconds" rule (which makes a crusher's entire gameplan much harder to execute) and the judge's scoring criteria (which weighs damage more heavily and makes it harder for control bots to win over spinners) are against it, so the way I see it, that balances out the "get the bots stuck so bad that they can't unstick and send the fight to the judges that way" situation. Plus, an ending like that has only happened twice so far in Quantum's 9 career fights, which isn't common enough to be relied on as a significant advantage. --- https://i.imgur.com/PmF1p9q.jpg <cite>Calwings posted [p:971767366] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>Blip wins the battle of the siblings, but the fight may have been very different if Tantrum didn't catch fire and lose its weapon after the first flip.Compsognathus posted...</cite><quote>Okay, I wanna rant a bit.The stick rules are overwhelmingly favorable to Quantum. Oh whoops, we got stuck again, it's going to the judges. With the last thing in the fight you saw was me biting into the other bot. And I'm not saying that Quantum didn't deserve a win, but the rule just gives it an insane advantage. </quote>Quantum is already using a weapon type that the rules are unfavorable to in other ways though. Both the "release after 20 seconds" rule (which makes a crusher's entire gameplan much harder to execute) and the judge's scoring criteria (which weighs damage more heavily and makes it harder for control bots to win over spinners) are against it, so the way I see it, that balances out the "get the bots stuck so bad that they can't unstick and send the fight to the judges that way" situation. Plus, an ending like that has only happened twice so far in Quantum's 9 career fights, which isn't common enough to be relied on as a significant advantage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DuneMan 02/23/23 10:24:21 PM #13:	Ah, I won't be able to watch until tomorrow... Somehow, I doubt this episode will have the same intensity of the main event from last week. That fight was nuts. --- "I'd rather betray the world than let the world betray me." -Cao Cao <cite>DuneMan posted [p:971767688] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>Ah, I won't be able to watch until tomorrow...Somehow, I doubt this episode will have the same intensity of the main event from last week. That fight was nuts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 02/25/23 5:03:43 PM #14:	Calwings posted... ~~Blip wins the battle of the siblings, but the fight may have been very different if Tantrum didn't catch fire and lose its weapon after the first flip.~~ ~~Quantum is already using a weapon type that the rules are~~ unfavorable to in other ways though. Both the "release after 20 seconds" rule (which makes a crusher's entire gameplan much harder to execute) and the judge's scoring criteria (which weighs damage more heavily and makes it harder for control bots to win over spinners) are against it, so the way I see it, that balances out the "get the bots stuck so bad that they can't unstick and send the fight to the judges that way" situation. Plus, an ending like that has only happened twice so far in Quantum's 9 career fights, which isn't common enough to be relied on as a significant advantage. ~~Pretty much my thoughts. Plus, I'm not particularly a fan of Battlebots' method of unsticking. Quantum is a cool, actual good non spinner.~~ --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 35, 500th posts: 34; PiO ATTN: 6 RotM wins 1, LETTEN MY ARROW FLYEN TRUE <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:971803127] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>Calwings posted... </cite><quote>Blip wins the battle of the siblings, but the fight may have been very different if Tantrum didn't catch fire and lose its weapon after the first flip.Quantum is already using a weapon type that the rules are unfavorable to in other ways though. Both the "release after 20 seconds" rule (which makes a crusher's entire gameplan much harder to execute) and the judge's scoring criteria (which weighs damage more heavily and makes it harder for control bots to win over spinners) are against it, so the way I see it, that balances out the "get the bots stuck so bad that they can't unstick and send the fight to the judges that way" situation. Plus, an ending like that has only happened twice so far in Quantum's 9 career fights, which isn't common enough to be relied on as a significant advantage.</quote>Pretty much my thoughts. Plus, I'm not particularly a fan of Battlebots' method of unsticking. Quantum is a cool, actual good non spinner. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calwings 02/25/23 5:23:12 PM #15:	We're beyond the 24 hour spoiler period, so you don't have to use the spoiler tags anymore. PiOverlord posted... Quantum is a cool, actual good non spinner. Agreed, it's nice having bots that aren't spinners but still feel like they could make a deep run in the tournament. Quantum, Beta, Blip, Hydra, and (probably the most shocking of all) Claw Viper are all believable contenders. --- https://i.imgur.com/PmF1p9q.jpg <cite>Calwings posted [p:971803452] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>We're beyond the 24 hour spoiler period, so you don't have to use the spoiler tags anymore.PiOverlord posted...</cite><quote>Quantum is a cool, actual good non spinner.</quote>Agreed, it's nice having bots that aren't spinners but still feel like they could make a deep run in the tournament. Quantum, Beta, Blip, Hydra, and (probably the most shocking of all) Claw Viper are all believable contenders.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Calwings 02/25/23 5:53:57 PM #17:	totalnerdken posted... I've been seeing a lot of this stuff on Tik Tok and it's so much fun to watch. Was it like this in the 90s as well? Same principle, but technology has come a long way in the two decades since the original BattleBots and Robot Wars were airing. The bots these days are a lot stronger, tougher, and more advanced compared to back then. --- https://i.imgur.com/PmF1p9q.jpg <cite>Calwings posted [p:971804023] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>totalnerdken posted...</cite><quote>I've been seeing a lot of this stuff on Tik Tok and it's so much fun to watch. Was it like this in the 90s as well?</quote>Same principle, but technology has come a long way in the two decades since the original BattleBots and Robot Wars were airing. The bots these days are a lot stronger, tougher, and more advanced compared to back then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DuneMan 02/25/23 7:55:54 PM #18:	Yeah, the 90's iteration is like watching tanks in WWI compared to a fleet of Abrams rolling across the desert with the latest season of the show. The armor and weapons are just so different. You can see this quite tragically with Bronco's last season; or the weirdness that was the attempt to bring Ghost Raptor into the newer seasons(~~not the least bit surprising that the bot was literally ripped to pieces in its matches~~). --- "I'd rather betray the world than let the world betray me." -Cao Cao <cite>DuneMan posted [p:971806070] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, the 90's iteration is like watching tanks in WWI compared to a fleet of Abrams rolling across the desert with the latest season of the show. The armor and weapons are just so different. You can see this quite tragically with Bronco's last season; or the weirdness that was the attempt to bring Ghost Raptor into the newer seasons(not the least bit surprising that the bot was literally ripped to pieces in its matches).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calwings 02/25/23 8:54:28 PM #19:	DuneMan posted... the 90's iteration is like watching tanks in WWI compared to a fleet of Abrams rolling across the desert with the latest season of the show. The armor and weapons are just so different. That's a good way to put it. The bots back then were just primitive compared to the ones we see these days. Weapons weren't nearly as powerful, but some of them looked just as destructive simply because armor was also weaker then too. Some bots from the old days did manage to do a good job at modernizing themselves though. Warhead, Complete Control, Nightmare, and Son Of Whyachi all had decent success in the rebooted BattleBots, as did Behemoth, Terrorhurtz, and Storm2 in the rebooted Robot Wars. In fact, Behemoth had its best performance ever in the last season of the RW reboot before the show sadly got cancelled again. --- https://i.imgur.com/PmF1p9q.jpg <cite>Calwings posted [p:971807151] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>DuneMan posted...</cite><quote>the 90's iteration is like watching tanks in WWI compared to a fleet of Abrams rolling across the desert with the latest season of the show. The armor and weapons are just so different.</quote>That's a good way to put it. The bots back then were just primitive compared to the ones we see these days. Weapons weren't nearly as powerful, but some of them looked just as destructive simply because armor was also weaker then too.Some bots from the old days did manage to do a good job at modernizing themselves though. Warhead, Complete Control, Nightmare, and Son Of Whyachi all had decent success in the rebooted BattleBots, as did Behemoth, Terrorhurtz, and Storm2 in the rebooted Robot Wars. In fact, Behemoth had its best performance ever in the last season of the RW reboot before the show sadly got cancelled again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Calwings 02/25/23 10:35:09 PM #21:	totalnerdken posted... I didn't even know there were 2 different shows. What's the difference between Robot Wars and Battle Bots? Do the best of the robots on each show ever compete with each other? BattleBots = US Robot Wars = UK Technically, Robot Wars existed first and started in the US, but when Robot Wars decided to move its operations to the UK, BattleBots was created to replace it in the US. There was never direct competition on television between the two shows, but some teams did compete in both shows with different bots or (in the early days before exclusivity contracts became a thing) with the same bots. Some examples: * Team Razer competed with Razer on both BattleBots and Robot Wars early on, but when exclusivity contracts became a thing, they built Warhead for BattleBots and then kept using Razer in Robot Wars, which went on to win the UK Championship. * Team Hurtz competed in both versions of Robot Wars with Terrorhurtz, the original BattleBots with Killerhurtz, and still compete in the modern BattleBots with Beta. * Team Carbide won the UK Championship in the modern Robot Wars with Carbide, and they also still compete in the modern BattleBots with Cobalt. Also, Robot Wars had a different format and a different arena compared to BattleBots. Their arena had more hazards (a pit, a floor flipper, lower walls to potentially flip opponents out of the arena, and House Robots that patrolled the corners) so the meta was quite different. The field was much less spinner-heavy compared to BattleBots, which some might see as a positive (more balance, more technical battles won by good driving) but some might see as a negative (less battles with a lot of destruction). I personally preferred Robot Wars of the two, but considering that Robot Wars is cancelled again and BattleBots is still airing, clearly I'm in the minority in that opinion. --- https://i.imgur.com/PmF1p9q.jpg <cite>Calwings posted [p:971808885] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>totalnerdken posted...</cite><quote>I didn't even know there were 2 different shows. What's the difference between Robot Wars and Battle Bots? Do the best of the robots on each show ever compete with each other?</quote>BattleBots = USRobot Wars = UKTechnically, Robot Wars existed first and started in the US, but when Robot Wars decided to move its operations to the UK, BattleBots was created to replace it in the US. There was never direct competition on television between the two shows, but some teams did compete in both shows with different bots or (in the early days before exclusivity contracts became a thing) with the same bots. Some examples:* Team Razer competed with Razer on both BattleBots and Robot Wars early on, but when exclusivity contracts became a thing, they built Warhead for BattleBots and then kept using Razer in Robot Wars, which went on to win the UK Championship.* Team Hurtz competed in both versions of Robot Wars with Terrorhurtz, the original BattleBots with Killerhurtz, and still compete in the modern BattleBots with Beta. * Team Carbide won the UK Championship in the modern Robot Wars with Carbide, and they also still compete in the modern BattleBots with Cobalt.Also, Robot Wars had a different format and a different arena compared to BattleBots. Their arena had more hazards (a pit, a floor flipper, lower walls to potentially flip opponents out of the arena, and House Robots that patrolled the corners) so the meta was quite different. The field was much less spinner-heavy compared to BattleBots, which some might see as a positive (more balance, more technical battles won by good driving) but some might see as a negative (less battles with a lot of destruction). I personally preferred Robot Wars of the two, but considering that Robot Wars is cancelled again and BattleBots is still airing, clearly I'm in the minority in that opinion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MabusIncarnate 02/26/23 2:21:21 AM #23:	...well i'll be damned. I've been passing over these topics thinking this was some online gaming tournament or some naruto shit and didn't know there was a show with actual robot battles. Gonna see if I can find this streaming somewhere. --- "I'm tired of this city, all this toil and strife. Trying to cross the boulevard, playing Frogger with my life." <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:971811914] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>...well i'll be damned. I've been passing over these topics thinking this was some online gaming tournament or some naruto shit and didn't know there was a show with actual robot battles. Gonna see if I can find this streaming somewhere. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DuneMan 02/26/23 9:35:50 AM #24:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Well, with the exclusivity contracts builders have built 'dollar store' knockoffs of their bots to compete elsewhere. As an example, IIRC, Tombstone's builder has a 'variant' called Last Rites that is also basically a giant horizontal spinner in front of a metal box that has two wheels. --- "I'd rather betray the world than let the world betray me." -Cao Cao <cite>DuneMan posted [p:971815339] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Well, with the exclusivity contracts builders have built 'dollar store' knockoffs of their bots to compete elsewhere. As an example, IIRC, Tombstone's builder has a 'variant' called Last Rites that is also basically a giant horizontal spinner in front of a metal box that has two wheels.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KFHEWUI 02/26/23 11:14:26 AM #25:	Calwings posted... Also, Robot Wars had a different format and a different arena compared to BattleBots. And it also had Sir Killalot! I love that robot! https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/4/6/AAKYEFAAEOGq.jpg --- R.I.P. SaikyoMog! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-seAIeu3Og "Me and my swole chihuahua are about to blow you away, Becky," Anya Forger, SPYxFAMILY. <cite>KFHEWUI posted [p:971816686] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>Calwings posted... </cite><quote>Also, Robot Wars had a different format and a different arena compared to BattleBots.</quote>And it also had Sir Killalot! I love that robot!https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/4/6/AAKYEFAAEOGq.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Calwings 02/26/23 4:30:07 PM #28:	totalnerdken posted... Ahhh, I see. I was going to ask if any of those teams built basically the exact same robot twice under different names to essentially have the same robots on different shows. But since the meta is different, I highly doubt that. Sometimes teams do enter similar designs but with some tweaks to suit the different shows. For example, Cobalt's earlier design was very similar to its sister bot Carbide, but Cobalt sacrificed a bit of armor for more offensive power to keep up with BattleBots' higher powered weapons. https://i.imgur.com/ORQl8wF.jpg https://i.imgur.com/LG0wrZD.png Of course, that version of Cobalt didn't do very well, so they switched to the current design with a wedge and vertical spinner instead. DuneMan posted... Well, with the exclusivity contracts builders have built 'dollar store' knockoffs of their bots to compete elsewhere. As an example, IIRC, Tombstone's builder has a 'variant' called Last Rites that is also basically a giant horizontal spinner in front of a metal box that has two wheels. Last Rites was actually Ray's original heavyweight that he competed with in untelevised live events before BattleBots came back to TV. He decided to make Tombstone (named after Ray's super-heavyweight bot of the same name) just for BattleBots so that Last Rites wouldn't be caught up in the exclusivity contracts and he could still fight with it elsewhere. Not exactly the same situation, but still a case of a team making multiple bots with different names but pretty much the same design to skirt around the exclusivity contracts. DuranOfForcena posted... the best that came out of Robot Wars was when Apollo was dominating so much that it started flipping the house robots. that was insane. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp6mFJ64qqY Keep in mind that the House Robots are multiple times as heavy as the competitors too. The weight limit is 220lbs (100kg for the Brits) in Robot Wars and 250lbs in BattleBots, but even the lightest of the House Robots was about 500lbs. But Apollo flipped all of the House Robots in the rebooted Robot Wars except Sir Killalot (who pushes nearly a thousand pounds) and managed to get Killalot off the ground but not over. Man, thinking about this again makes me really wish Team Apollo's plans to bring a similar flipper to BattleBots hadn't been derailed by the pandemic. --- https://i.imgur.com/PmF1p9q.jpg <cite>Calwings posted [p:971822092] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>totalnerdken posted...</cite><quote>Ahhh, I see. I was going to ask if any of those teams built basically the exact same robot twice under different names to essentially have the same robots on different shows. But since the meta is different, I highly doubt that. </quote>Sometimes teams do enter similar designs but with some tweaks to suit the different shows. For example, Cobalt's earlier design was very similar to its sister bot Carbide, but Cobalt sacrificed a bit of armor for more offensive power to keep up with BattleBots' higher powered weapons.https://i.imgur.com/ORQl8wF.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/LG0wrZD.pngOf course, that version of Cobalt didn't do very well, so they switched to the current design with a wedge and vertical spinner instead.DuneMan posted...</cite><quote>Well, with the exclusivity contracts builders have built 'dollar store' knockoffs of their bots to compete elsewhere. As an example, IIRC, Tombstone's builder has a 'variant' called Last Rites that is also basically a giant horizontal spinner in front of a metal box that has two wheels.</quote>Last Rites was actually Ray's original heavyweight that he competed with in untelevised live events before BattleBots came back to TV. He decided to make Tombstone (named after Ray's super-heavyweight bot of the same name) just for BattleBots so that Last Rites wouldn't be caught up in the exclusivity contracts and he could still fight with it elsewhere. Not exactly the same situation, but still a case of a team making multiple bots with different names but pretty much the same design to skirt around the exclusivity contracts.DuranOfForcena posted...</cite><quote>the best that came out of Robot Wars was when Apollo was dominating so much that it started flipping the house robots. that was insane.</quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp6mFJ64qqYKeep in mind that the House Robots are multiple times as heavy as the competitors too. The weight limit is 220lbs (100kg for the Brits) in Robot Wars and 250lbs in BattleBots, but even the lightest of the House Robots was about 500lbs. But Apollo flipped all of the House Robots in the rebooted Robot Wars except Sir Killalot (who pushes nearly a thousand pounds) and managed to get Killalot off the ground but not over.Man, thinking about this again makes me really wish Team Apollo's plans to bring a similar flipper to BattleBots hadn't been derailed by the pandemic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DuneMan 02/26/23 6:33:51 PM #30:	In terms of flipping strength I suppose Hydra is closer to Apollo's level. But the bot is flawed in a few ways: tiny structure of flipping 'spoon' exposes it to damage, low skirt that catches on the floor at various moments, and some operation gremlins. I imagine some of you might put 'ego of the driver' on there as well. As a separate issue, his performance with the bot is lacking in quality to be a proper 'villain' on the show. :P --- "I'd rather betray the world than let the world betray me." -Cao Cao <cite>DuneMan posted [p:971824329] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>In terms of flipping strength I suppose Hydra is closer to Apollo's level. But the bot is flawed in a few ways: tiny structure of flipping 'spoon' exposes it to damage, low skirt that catches on the floor at various moments, and some operation gremlins.I imagine some of you might put 'ego of the driver' on there as well. As a separate issue, his performance with the bot is lacking in quality to be a proper 'villain' on the show. :P</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PiOverlord 02/26/23 8:32:17 PM #32:	I still think Jake has been overblown. He's not that bad of a guy and he typically gives the fans a good time. The idea that he should have received a season ban is also extremely harsh when arguing with a ref is far from the most unsportsmanlike conduct a competitor has shown. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 35, 500th posts: 34; PiO ATTN: 6 RotM wins 1, LETTEN MY ARROW FLYEN TRUE <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:971826584] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>I still think Jake has been overblown. He's not that bad of a guy and he typically gives the fans a good time. The idea that he should have received a season ban is also extremely harsh when arguing with a ref is far from the most unsportsmanlike conduct a competitor has shown. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Calwings 02/26/23 8:50:34 PM #34:	I'm over Jake Ewert at this point. Yeah, the bike rack incident with Huge (and his behavior during that fight) a few years ago sucked, but they closed that loophole in the rules. Plus, he hasn't done anything really heelish recently, and he and Hydra have been humbled enough with losses in recent seasons that I no longer see him as someone worth really disliking. He's still confident and a bit smug, but not to a heelish level anymore. --- https://i.imgur.com/PmF1p9q.jpg <cite>Calwings posted [p:971826948] in BattleBots... [t:80358446]...</cite> <quote>I'm over Jake Ewert at this point. Yeah, the bike rack incident with Huge (and his behavior during that fight) a few years ago sucked, but they closed that loophole in the rules. Plus, he hasn't done anything really heelish recently, and he and Hydra have been humbled enough with losses in recent seasons that I no longer see him as someone worth really disliking. He's still confident and a bit smug, but not to a heelish level anymore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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