Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 402: This Election Sucks and is Now About Trains

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LordoftheMorons
03/31/23 6:20:45 AM
#454:


masterplum posted...
Yeah I dont buy this at all.

I expect it to hurt a bit but mostly from a logistical standpoint. You dont want to be spending energy figuring out where you can go that wont get you arrested etc.

in terms of votes I doubt this changes anything
I could buy it being neutral because opinions about Trump are very well formed at this point

I can't buy it being a huge positive that "won Trump the presidency"

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masterplum
03/31/23 6:29:35 AM
#455:


LordoftheMorons posted...
I could buy it being neutral because opinions about Trump are very well formed at this point

I can't buy it being a huge positive that "won Trump the presidency"

Agreed. The people who this would galvanize already have trump is the messiah bumper stickers on their car.

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SirChris
03/31/23 6:40:31 AM
#456:


I think you both vastly underestimate how uninformed a lot of the voting base of America is.

Being indicted is going to matter in a general election.

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masterplum
03/31/23 7:13:20 AM
#457:


SirChris posted...
I think you both vastly underestimate how uninformed a lot of the voting base of America is.

Being indicted is going to matter in a general election.

Recent polling showed 59% of people thought trump did something illegal

Not sure how this could make people think its less likely he did something illegal

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SirChris
03/31/23 7:29:26 AM
#458:


masterplum posted...
Recent polling showed 59% of people thought trump did something illegal

Not sure how this could make people think its less likely he did something illegal

I meant it is going to matter more. Maybe I misunderstood the point.

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Inviso
03/31/23 7:32:14 AM
#459:


Best case scenario: Trump being indicted really rallies his base in the primaries, because they assume "This is just political persecution because the Dems hate him!" and then in the general election, enough rational people turn out to ensure we don't have a criminal for a president.

Worst case scenario: Keep the first clause, but then Dem voters either get complacent because Trump is a criminal, or they find some reason to not be enthusiastic about the party, and Trump wins on the cultlike fanaticism of the GOP.

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SirChris
03/31/23 7:51:45 AM
#460:


Best case is he doesn't get the chance to run at all tbh

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Maniac64
03/31/23 8:22:47 AM
#461:


Thorn posted...
https://twitter.com/PaulaReidCNN/status/1641581182562213889

Allegedly 34 counts related to falsifying business records

Sounds like they may have a bit more than just the hush money? But idk maybe there were a lot of documents involved with that.
Trump's lawyer is suggesting separate charges for every payment.

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Ashethan
03/31/23 10:30:08 AM
#462:


masterplum posted...
Which is why this is absolutely politically motivated. Is it morally correct to do it anyways? Yes, but it is absolutely politically motivated. My guess if this was Elon musk doing the same thing it never would have gotten this far.

John Edwards was indicted.

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Thorn
03/31/23 10:58:53 AM
#463:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Man, so many people out here with this very stupid "Trump getting indicted is going to win him the presidency" take

Call me crazy, but I think that being indicted typically is more likely to hurt than help one's election chances!
From the right I think this is their way of coping. From the left I think it's just the next form of doom and gloom after "he'll never be indicted."

FWIW, I can very much believe it helps him in the GOP primary. But not in the general.

pretty sure independents like candidates who weren't indicted

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kevwaffles
03/31/23 11:15:31 AM
#464:


SirChris posted...
Best case is he doesn't get the chance to run at all tbh
I mean that's what DeSantis wants

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masterplum
03/31/23 11:33:29 AM
#465:


Thorn posted...
From the right I think this is their way of coping. From the left I think it's just the next form of doom and gloom after "he'll never be indicted."

FWIW, I can very much believe it helps him in the GOP primary. But not in the general.

pretty sure independents like candidates who weren't indicted

I believe independents are currently 52-48 that Trump has done something illegal, however thay 48 includes people who said Trump merely has acted unethical

We'll see if that number changes

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SirChris
03/31/23 11:45:56 AM
#466:


kevwaffles posted...
I mean that's what DeSantis wants
DeSantis just got owned by a mouse, he is terrifying if elected but he seems like a loser tbh

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Thorn
03/31/23 12:10:57 PM
#467:


those who understand strategy are in awe

https://twitter.com/AntiToxicPeople/status/1641801339935285249

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swordz9
03/31/23 12:17:41 PM
#468:


The mentality of someone never held accountable for anything in their life sure is something.
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AriaOfBolo
03/31/23 12:37:08 PM
#469:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Call me crazy, but I think that being indicted typically is more likely to hurt than help one's election chances!

found the issue

also I think the BEST case scenario is trump and desantis eat each other alive in either the primaries or general and we get a mediocre dem coasting on LFF

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kevwaffles
03/31/23 12:48:38 PM
#470:


SirChris posted...
DeSantis just got owned by a mouse, he is terrifying if elected but he seems like a loser tbh
Dude do you know how powerful that mouse is?

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Dancedreamer
03/31/23 12:58:23 PM
#471:


I feel like DeSantis would never win the general election because Trump hates him too much to let him win.

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Kenri
03/31/23 1:23:36 PM
#472:


Thorn posted...
those who understand strategy are in awe

https://twitter.com/AntiToxicPeople/status/1641801339935285249
APPEALING!

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Peace___Frog
03/31/23 2:00:31 PM
#473:


swordz9 posted...
The mentality of someone never held accountable for anything in their life sure is something.
Truly

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Thorn
03/31/23 4:31:52 PM
#474:


Back to our other long ongoing trainwreck:

https://twitter.com/wongmjane/status/1641884551189512192

lmfao

Twitter's algorithm literally specifically has an "author_is_elon" flag

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LordoftheMorons
03/31/23 4:34:45 PM
#475:


If I was a billionaire I would simply privately spend time with my loved ones instead of wasting large portions of my fortune trying desperately to get people to like me

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KamikazePotato
03/31/23 4:38:46 PM
#476:


Elon has loved ones?

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Xeybozn
03/31/23 4:45:53 PM
#477:


Of course he doesn't. Anyone who has loved ones would choose to spend time more with them well before making enough to hit billionaire status.

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LordoftheMorons
03/31/23 5:31:26 PM
#478:


Thorn posted...
From the right I think this is their way of coping. From the left I think it's just the next form of doom and gloom after "he'll never be indicted."

FWIW, I can very much believe it helps him in the GOP primary. But not in the general.

pretty sure independents like candidates who weren't indicted
I guess for the primary maybe because DeSantis et al are pathetically denouncing the indictment instead of actually capitalizing on it and saying hey, we all love Trumps policies [for some reason] but we need a candidate without all of these complications. Pretty sad of their electorate if so, though!

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LinkMarioSamus
04/01/23 3:34:14 PM
#479:


Trump seemed to me like he has lost so much of his momentum he had even in 2020.

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Dancedreamer
04/01/23 3:44:11 PM
#480:


LordoftheMorons posted...
I guess for the primary maybe because DeSantis et al are pathetically denouncing the indictment instead of actually capitalizing on it and saying hey, we all love Trumps policies [for some reason] but we need a candidate without all of these complications. Pretty sad of their electorate if so, though!

The Republican party built themselves a big mess when they went all in on Trump. He came with a lot of gullible rubes who have this idea the deep state is out to get them, and this just confirms it. Anyone who even suggests that Trump maybe shouldn't run because of this will get labeled a part of the Deep State and basically lose Trump's entire base.

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_Blur_
04/01/23 11:18:17 PM
#481:


On the topic of cancel culture very obviously being a thing, albeit an overblown one, I just saw this story of a news anchor getting fired for saying "fo shizzle my nizzle" when talking about Snoop Dogg's wine. She had been there 20 years. Ridiculous.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/whoopi-goldberg-charlamagne-tha-god-152333640.html


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Kenri
04/01/23 11:24:02 PM
#482:


I dunno, I'm not really on board with the argument "using slurs isn't okay but using derivatives of slurs is fine". This sounds like something that doesn't merit a firing but clearly does merit a warning, and apparently she's been warned before. Not surprised they just cut her loose. *shrug*

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Thorn
04/02/23 12:02:01 AM
#483:


LordoftheMorons posted...
I guess for the primary maybe because DeSantis et al are pathetically denouncing the indictment instead of actually capitalizing on it and saying hey, we all love Trumps policies [for some reason] but we need a candidate without all of these complications. Pretty sad of their electorate if so, though!
https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/status/1642241923527192576

Trump gained nearly 20 points post indictment in a GOP primary poll.

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Kenri
04/02/23 1:23:09 AM
#484:


lmao get fucked DeSantis

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_Blur_
04/02/23 1:24:35 AM
#485:


Kenri posted...
I dunno, I'm not really on board with the argument "using slurs isn't okay but using derivatives of slurs is fine". This sounds like something that doesn't merit a firing but clearly does merit a warning, and apparently she's been warned before. Not surprised they just cut her loose. *shrug*
I listen to hip-hop religiously and my dumbass didn't even realize nizzle was slang for that until like...a few years ago when I randomly thought of it. Wasn't even certain either, just kind of figured it probably was!

But yeah, I'm all for the public shamings of racists and stuff, so these I usually enjoy. But unless she'd been warned for some serious stuff before, that firing is indefensible to me.

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SirChris
04/02/23 1:27:07 AM
#486:


Thorn posted...
https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/status/1642241923527192576

Trump gained nearly 20 points post indictment in a GOP primary poll.
It makes sense, DeSantis was like "blah blah bad indictment"

what a feckless clown lol

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Chaeix
04/03/23 1:03:27 AM
#487:


i find it hilarious that rainbows trigger right-wing bigots nowadays

theyre such fragile people

I truly wonder what it would be like to feel offended by the presence of multiple colours side by side

oh wow I accidentally made a racism allegory too, nice


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PerfectChaosZ
04/03/23 1:09:33 AM
#488:


_Blur_ posted...
I listen to hip-hop religiously and my dumbass didn't even realize nizzle was slang for that until like...a few years ago when I randomly thought of it. Wasn't even certain either, just kind of figured it probably was!

But yeah, I'm all for the public shamings of racists and stuff, so these I usually enjoy. But unless she'd been warned for some serious stuff before, that firing is indefensible to me.

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_Blur_
04/03/23 1:58:56 AM
#489:


PerfectChaosZ posted...
Then youre in luck because she had been warned for some similar stuff before.
I looked it up and it was even dumber than I could have possibly imagined

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Mr_Lasastryke
04/03/23 5:38:25 PM
#490:


_Blur_ posted...
On the topic of cancel culture very obviously being a thing, albeit an overblown one, I just saw this story of a news anchor getting fired for saying "fo shizzle my nizzle" when talking about Snoop Dogg's wine. She had been there 20 years. Ridiculous.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/whoopi-goldberg-charlamagne-tha-god-152333640.html

getting fired qualifies as being canceled now? in that case, i've been canceled too.

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LordoftheMorons
04/03/23 11:32:29 PM
#491:


https://twitter.com/cakitchener/status/1642955660546416651?s=21

Awful

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red_sox_777
04/04/23 1:16:57 AM
#492:


I think this increases Trump's chances of being reelected in 2024. Drastically, since I had his chances at close to 0 before this, so any increase multiplies his chances by a lot. If Trump is acquitted after going through a trial of the century that will make the OJ Simpson trial look small, a lot of people are going to think he must have been innocent of all crimes, not just this one. It's really scary because who knows what he would attempt in his second term without the constraint of needing to remain popular for another election and with his belief in his invincibility confirmed.

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Thorn
04/04/23 9:09:58 AM
#493:


https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1642869119748911104

lmao hannity trying to give trump questions with an intended answer on stealing documents and trump just going "nope. i did that shit."

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Mr_Lasastryke
04/04/23 9:35:32 AM
#494:


reminds me of alex jones ranting about how ridiculous it is that the left tries to portray kanye as a nazi, only for kanye to reply: "actually, i AM a nazi!"

no idea why conservatives keep shooting themselves in the foot like this. well, alex jones is fucking dumb but i thought hannity was slightly less dumb >_>

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swordz9
04/04/23 9:37:19 AM
#495:


Probably because they can shoot themselves in the foot constantly and have almost nothing ever done about it
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Dancedreamer
04/04/23 11:12:51 AM
#496:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/cakitchener/status/1642955660546416651?s=21

Awful

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LightningStrikes
04/04/23 11:33:37 AM
#497:


Finland has now officially joined NATO. That special military operation to prevent NATO expansion is going well I see.

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masterplum
04/04/23 11:59:46 AM
#498:


Thorn posted...
https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1642869119748911104

lmao hannity trying to give trump questions with an intended answer on stealing documents and trump just going "nope. i did that shit."

Lmao

This is why I love Trump in a "Wow, I can't believe this guy actually exists" sort of way

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PrinceKaro
04/04/23 12:07:13 PM
#499:


Trump has the right to remain silent

he is just completely fucking incapable of it

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masterplum
04/04/23 12:08:40 PM
#500:


Play Omori

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