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Amazes me still how many people are willing to protect Donald when hed throw literally every last one of them into lava, laugh and then go get a Big Mac

swordz9 posted...

Amazes me still how many people are willing to protect Donald when hed throw literally every last one of them into lava, laugh and then go get a Big Mac

They are not protecting Donald they are protecting their own power.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1635738910562156554

Minnesota solved hunger I guess. No one hungry.

Regardless of this insane statement the bill did in fact pass the state senate. Vote was 38-26. 4 GOP joined all 34 Dems to pass it.

"I haven't seen it so it doesn't exist"

"I ignored it so it doesn't exist"

"if I see it I'm calling the cops"

HanOfTheNekos posted...

"I ignored it so it doesn't exist"

he's just saying the quiet part out loud tbqh. republicans don't give a shit about poor people but a lot of them at least pretend they do.

Late to this but David Cameron made changes to the way the BBC is governed replacing the old governing body the BBC Trust with the BBC Board. The board contains political appointees most notably the Chairman, and although the Director-General (who is editor-in-chief) is appointed by the board not the government, the chairman leads the appointment process so the government is effectively in control by proxy.

The current Director-General, Tim Davie who is at the heart of this mess is a former Tory and came aboard in 2020 on a platform of cracking down on activism of course given that the BBC was already supposedly impartial if not slanted to the right already that clearly meant suppressing anything left or progressive. The current Chairman, Richard Sharp, was appointed by Boris Johnson in 2021 and is openly corrupt helping Boris Johnson get an 800k loan which he did not disclose during appointment proceedings. He is also Rishi Sunaks old boss when they were at Goldman Sachs. It should be noted here that the Chairman can fire the Director-General yet this has not happened despite everything.

So in short, the BBC has over the last seven years been captured by the Tory party. It can and should be saved however. I see some so-called progressives online calling for its demise and that just seems nonsensical to me as if it goes away the replacement will be private media. You will not get progressive or impartial coverage that is run by capital. Labour need to clean house and reform the whole thing when they are in government. Especially as just today it came out that the Tories successfully pressures the BBC into being harsher towards Labour. Also not calling lockdowns by the word lockdown.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/mar/14/bbc-editors-asked-journalists-to-avoid-using-lockdown-at-start-of-pandemic

Credit Suisse looking like it might go under - they are resorting to begging the Swiss National Bank to make a public show of support. This bank might be too big to fail without causing systemic contagion.

I dunno if you guys have been following this but theres a good chance that a Trump-appointed judge in Texas will soon issue a nationwide injunction banning Mifepristone, an abortion-inducing drug that was approved by the FDA like two decades ago

https://www.reuters.com/legal/texas-judge-consider-banning-abortion-pill-us-2023-03-15/

The Swiss National Bank says it will backstop Credit Suisse. Yeah, I think this one is too big for the powers that be to allow to fail.

LordoftheMorons posted...

I dunno if you guys have been following this but theres a good chance that a Trump-appointed judge in Texas will soon issue a nationwide injunction banning Mifepristone, an abortion-inducing drug that was approved by the FDA like two decades ago

I wasn't following it closely but I was aware this was going on in the background and was bracing for the worst.

For those curious basically the (completely bullshit) theory of the case is that the FDA rushed approval of the drug and that it's unsafe (they didn't and it isn't, and the time period for challenging it on that basis is like six years, not 22)

https://www.commondreams.org/news/nebraska-democrat-transgender

I like this woman.

I like her too. I think ultimately all she'll accomplish is getting the rules changed so debate can be ended via simple majority vote, and then the ghouls will get their child-killing bill. But all she can do is all she can do.

buyin time

For the record this is why I like filibusters

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1636373742875213827

RIP France, its about to burn to the ground

Pretty silly that retirement was created as a safeguard if you lived too long to work and now people treat it as the last 15 years of your life because life expentency has risen 20 years.

Demographics are going to make it unsustainable.

masterplum posted...

Pretty silly that retirement was created as a safeguard if you lived too long to work and now people treat it as the last 15 years of your life because life expentency has risen 20 years.

Demographics are going to make it unsustainable.

Pretty silly people want to enjoy their lives

masterplum posted...

Pretty silly that retirement was created as a safeguard if you lived too long to work and now people treat it as the last 15 years of your life because life expentency has risen 20 years.

Pretty silly that people only see work as the only value people provide to society.

SirChris posted...

Pretty silly people want to enjoy their lives

But why do we cater that to old people.

Its NIMBY behavior. Reduce workload from everyone through basic income

Pretty silly that anybody ever has to work at all. We should do something about that.

masterplum posted...

But why do we cater that to old people.

Its NIMBY behavior. Reduce workload from everyone through basic income

I mean

If someone wants to do that I am more than completely fine with that. Is that on the table?

masterplum posted...

Pretty silly that retirement was created as a safeguard if you lived too long to work and now people treat it as the last 15 years of your life because life expentency has risen 20 years.

Demographics are going to make it unsustainable.

One of the worst posts Ive ever read, philosophically speaking

Also we are going to be old someday too. These people mostly worked hard with the promise of a finish line. They deserve dignity too.

But sure I am down for all sorts of initiatives.

SirChris posted...

I mean

If someone wants to do that I am more than completely fine with that. Is that on the table?

It should be more on the table than standing firm defending bankrupting countries in order to protect old people

SirChris posted...

Also we are going to be old someday too. These people mostly worked hard with the promise of a finish line. They deserve dignity too.

But sure I am down for all sorts of initiatives.

There won't be enough young people to support us then. Watch Japan in 20 years

masterplum posted...

There won't be enough young people to support us then.

Couldn't we just allow more young immigrants to make up the difference?

Xeybozn posted...

Couldn't we just allow more young immigrants to make up the difference?

Only until other countries also have declining birth rates through increased education.

If you want to create 3rd world baby factories into perpetuity to propogate it, it would work.

But I find that more morally reprehensible than just agreeing pyramid schemes to prop up old people not needing to work aren't a good idea.

masterplum posted...

There won't be enough young people to support us then. Watch Japan in 20 years

The only reason the US has "held the line" as well as it has is because of net positive immigration.

masterplum posted...

There won't be enough young people to support us then. Watch Japan in 20 years

We do not have this problem

Our military budget says as much tbh

Also our life expectancy is 7 years lower than japan

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/16/us/florida-textbooks-african-american-history.html

The New York Times reports...

In an attempt to cater to Florida, at least one publisher made significant changes to its materials, walking back or omitting references to race, even in its telling of the Rosa Parks story.

NYT shows how the textbook originally stated: "The law said African Americans had to give up their seats on the bus if a white person wanted to sit down"

then changed to a more indirect draft version

"She was told to move to a different seat because of the color of her skin"

to finally

"She was told to move to a different seat"

with no explanation of why she was told to move

If I'm reading the NYT article correctly, the textbook publisher backpedalled back to the "color of her skin" version and pulled the completely whitewashed version from review by the state when they reached out for comment on this story but this is exactly the kind of effect DeSantis and the GOP are trying to get from publishers, threatening them into "self-censoring" to comply with these laws.

Is it just me, or do Republicans seem to be awfully fond of accusing Democrats of things that seem more like their own wheelhouse? Not that the Democratic Party isn't terrible for a lot of the same reasons, really they're just a lot less cultish about it.

Yes, lms. It's all projection from the gop. Always has been.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1636507656008417280?s=46&t=v9nzYLLBIiNYrqldFs9NWQ

Lets gooooooo, unironically Americans are such pussies compared to the French.

What a dumb thing to riot over. Benefits for 62 year olds

masterplum posted...

What a dumb thing to riot over. Benefits for 62 year olds

One day you will be 62.

Yeah, imagine not wanting to work until youre dead. Crazy people wanting to enjoy some life when theyre old before theyre gone. Dont worry though the American dream of working til you die is almost here

Dancedreamer posted...

One day you will be 62.

And I'll still be working

People should get guaranteed time off when they are young so they can take time off all through life

masterplum posted...

And I'll still be working

But why though? And why should anyone have to?

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

But why though? And why should anyone have to?

Because I don't want to be bored?

I like my job, I just want more frequent vacations.

We should pay basic income, automate menial unproductive work, and give people in knowledge work 4 weeks of vacation a year.

Letting 62-63 year olds completely coast off the backs of everyone else is stupid. 62 isn't decrepit. We aren't talking about 90 year Olds here. They are just as capable at working most jobs as everyone else

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

But why though? And why should anyone have to?

Why should anyone have to work at 62, or why should anyone have to work at any age? Any argument that healthy 62 year olds shouldn't have to work can be applied to younger people, after all.

Xeybozn posted...

Why should anyone have to work at 62, or why should anyone have to work at any age? Any argument that healthy 62 year olds shouldn't have to work can be applied to younger people, after all.

Firstly, no, any argument doesn't. Secondly, exactly

Xeybozn posted...

Why should anyone have to work at 62, or why should anyone have to work at any age? Any argument that healthy 62 year olds shouldn't have to work can be applied to younger people, after all.

Your first sentence is correct, your second is not.

masterplum posted...

Because I don't want to be bored?

I like my job, I just want more frequent vacations.

We should pay basic income, automate menial unproductive work, and give people in knowledge work 4 weeks of vacation a year.

Letting 62-63 year olds completely coast off the backs of everyone else is stupid. 62 isn't decrepit. We aren't talking about 90 year Olds here. They are just as capable at working most jobs as everyone else

Also theyre not coasting off the backs of everyone else, they put 40(!!) years of their life into contributing to the economy and society.

Why did you specify working in knowledge should get vacation? You dont think everyone deserves vacation?

Work is not a virtue for everyone plum

Let the people who like to work support those who hate it

hate to interrupt this but the ICC issued an arrest warrant for Putin in connection to Russia forcibly relocating Ukrainian children to Russia.

Obviously this will never amount to anything because like obviously Russia isn't going to turn him in but better than nothing I suppose.

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1636747504418193408

Jakyl25 posted...

Work is not a virtue for everyone plum

Let the people who like to work support those who hate it

Yeah I hesitate to even make the they earned it argument because of this + the subjectivity of what qualifies as hard work, ESPECIALLY when contrasted with pay.