Poll of the Day > So why do women want to work and have a career?

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I've been hearing lately about a population crisis coming in the future due to many reasons, one of them being the fact that women are choosing to not have kids, because they want to have a career or an education.

When I heard this, my initial thought was "What the fuck?". Because why would women want a career and job? Working fucking sucks, and being a housespouse sounds awesome to me. Taking care of kids, making good ans healthy meals. It sounds awesome as shit to me.

If I could ditch work and be a house husband, I would totally jump on that instantly. Fuck having a job.

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Tora_Sami posted...

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Will do!

It's almost like people, both men and women, need money in order to live, and having a job and having kids are not mutually exclusive, but not having enough money deters people from having kids even when they want them.

Nah, can't be that.

FYI, no one is stopping you, Mr Moneybags, from being a stay at home father if you want to... unless of course you take the previously mentioned factors into account.

Cant tell if serious, but if I was able to, Id absolutely be the house husband. I legit love taking care of my living space and not having to deal with work? Amazing.

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Gaawa_chan posted...

It's almost like people, both men and women, need money in order to live, and having a job and having kids are not mutually exclusive, but not having enough money deters people from having kids even when they want them.

Nah, can't be that.

FYI, no one is stopping you, Mr Moneybags, from being a stay at home father if you want to... unless of course you take the previously mentioned factors into account.

This is putting aside the fact that women have historically not had financial autonomy not because women did not want those rights, but because men wanted them to not have them, to control them. These rights are about wanting options, options you have always had your whole life but clearly take for granted.

I get this completely, and I do acknowledge that it is and in insanely good that women cam work nowadays instead of being controlled.

But again, sometimes I hear about women "wanting to have a career" , ans I'm just like...why?

Unless it's something you're passionate about, then I just can't fathom it. Why would a women want to work a shitty corporate job when the men, who will be biologically inclined to work hard, can do it, and possibly even better if it's a physical one.

Like I get the fact that women need to be financially dependent, to be free from men and all, but that's why alimony exist, to make up for the lost years of income while she was taking care of the kids.

KingDavid posted...

But again, sometimes I hear about women "wanting to have a career" , ans I'm just like...why?

Money.

Why would a women want to work a shitty corporate job when the men

If you understand why men work, then you understand why women work. Women are not fucking alien mysteries.

who will be biologically inclined to work hard, can do it, and possibly even better if it's a physical one.

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Like I get the fact that women need to be financially dependent, to be free from men and all, but that's why alimony exist, to make up for the lost years of income while she was taking care of the kids.

You are being deliberately obtuse. I'll make this simpler for you, little boy who simultaneously is whining about not wanting to work while arguing that men are "biologically better workers." Reverse the situation. You live in a system in which most people can barely scrape by with two incomes. Do you think men would be content to be completely reliant on the income of one other person, of any gender? This is a recipe for destitution for the vast majority of PEOPLE, period. On top of that, you're completely open to utter financial ruin; banking on the existence of alimony just makes you sound like a total idiot. Enjoy being homeless after your abusive partner in control of all wealth sabotages you and then throws you out. Enjoy trying to get work after having no work history for years and years.

Most PEOPLE work because most PEOPLE have to, and people who choose to work when they don't have to are still being motivated by the same thing that drives need: money. This isn't rocket science. Money covers necessities, money covers luxuries, money provides security, and to suggest that a person should just trust that another person can generate and keep enough wealth to support them AND can be relied upon to do that and just be lucky enough to not have it all blow up in their face? Is idiotic. Why do women want careers? Because they aren't stupid. Whatever dream scenario you've cooked up in your head is not an option for most PEOPLE.

My grandfather bought a 3 bedroom house in 1955. He was in the Marine Corps (Staff Sergeant at the time, I believe), his wife stayed at home and took care of their 3 kids, and they had 2 new cars and a boat.

Today a Staff Sergeant makes $34,000 per year basic pay. His house sold for $450,000 in 2007. Nobody making just $34k could afford that.

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maybe some consider it risky, for some reason, to bet your entire livelihood on another person, without whom you couldn't buy food or pay rent?

Clench281 posted...

maybe some consider it risky, for some reason, to bet your entire livelihood on another person, without whom you couldn't buy food or pay rent?

Again, I get this, and that is a valid reason for a woman to want to work, and I advocate for that.

What I'm trying to say is this: Why are women so offended and outright hostile to the idea of it? I makes perfect sense from a biological and societal standpoint for women to be a housewife for the duration of time that a women carries and takes care of the kid. I remember reading an article(https://tinyurl.com/257ydkme) about Michelle Obama saying that she hated her husband because when they had kids, it was super hard on them because they were both working really hard at the time at both of their jobs.

Since I am under the assumption that Barack Obama got payed well(because otherwise he wouldn't have been President if he wasn't so resourceful), I am wondering why Michelle didn't just stay home to take care of them instead of working. It could have made their marriage easier.

Mind you, it doesn't have to be that way. It could've been Michelle being the main provider and the President, and Barack could've been the house husband. But since the man is more physically stronger and the woman can breastfeed, it would make sense for the traditional family dynamic to be the way things are done.

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"Why do people want to have food, shelter, and financial independence? I don't get it."

KingDavid posted...

makes perfect sense from a biological and societal standpoint for women to be a housewife

What the fuck are you talking about?

for the duration of time that a women carries and takes care of the kid.

Why should the woman be expected to be the one taking care of hypothetical kids when you opened this topic whining about not being able to stay at home and not work yourself? And your arguments are predicated an multiple false assumptions. Here's another one. Women aren't necessarily interested in having kids or necessarily enjoy raising kids more than working, not even ones that are in relationships.

Since I am under the assumption that Barack Obama got payed well(because otherwise he wouldn't have been President if he wasn't so resourceful), I am wondering why Michelle didn't just stay home to take care of them instead of working. It could have made their marriage easier.

Holy shit, what part of "MONEY" do you not understand? No one is this fucking thick, you're being dishonest.