Current Events > Guy did not want kids, women still had them anyway

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I remember watching a video where Dave Chappelle stated he was pro choice, he also stated the man should be pro choice as well. If a man give a reasonable time to communicate with a woman that he doesn't want kids, he should be free of responsibility. Which I kinda agree. However, this video is rough but he did give a warning and offered to pay for an abortion. This guy has 7 kids with 7 different women. He states he will not pay or participate in their lives.

Things I do not agree with:

1. Calling them a 'jump off' (pretty much sluts)
2. His non chalant attitude.
3. His horrible understanding of sex education ( he recently learned about vasectomy).

https://youtu.be/_Iop3u6lDys

so glad women ignore me

Dude sounds like a piece of shit

A_Good_Boy posted...

Dude sounds like a piece of shit

Yeah

I'm all for equality and pro-choice for all.
Abortion for women, and financial abortions for men.
Her body, her choice. His wallet, his choice.
It's win-win.

lennethsoki posted...

I'm all for equality and pro-choice for all.
Abortion for women, and financial abortions for men.
Her body, her choice. His wallet, his choice.
It's win-win.

That's not how it works, the man still has to pay support unless he signs off all parental rights.

omniryu posted...

I remember watching a video where Dave Chappelle stated he was pro choice, he also stated the man should be pro choice as well. If a man give a reasonable time to communicate with a woman that he doesn't want kids, he should be free of responsibility. Which I kinda agree. However, this video is rough but he did give a warning and offered to pay for an abortion. This guy has 7 kids with 7 different women. He states he will not pay or participate in their lives.

Things I do not agree with:
1. Calling them a 'jump off' (pretty much sluts)
2. His non chalant attitude.
3. His horrible understanding of sex education ( he recently learned about vasectomy).
https://youtu.be/_Iop3u6lDys

I hope all 7 women take his ass to child support court and the court makes him pay support or he signs off on all rights to each of the kids. He doesn't want to pay support then he shouldn't have any parental rights.

He should have wore a condom.

He sounds like a douche

I can get not wanting to be a parent, but your desire to be childless ends when you have sex w/o birth control.

That shouldn't apply in extreme situations though, like rape or baby entrapment.

Child support is the right of children.

It sucks, but it's part of the fundamental unfairness of biology: women have control over what happens to sperm once it's given to them; men only have control over where they deposit their sperm, after which point they really don't get a say anymore. But you do, at all times, have total control over your gametes.

Men are already permitted to sign away all parental rights, but that means all parental rights and not getting to pop in periodically when you start to feel curious or when you want to complain about how she's raising "your" kid.

I have to agree with him. Most automatically assume both genders should have equal responsibility. And our laws reflect that. But it's the woman who are the gate keepers to sex/relationships and hold all rights regarding reproduction.

So filtering out the deadbeats like this only interested sex should be a top priority.

But here we are with 7 kids about to grow up fatherless and with little to no support because I doubt he has much to give/take with it divided amongst that many. Assuming he has anything to give.

I think the guy should at least cover the abortion lol

lennethsoki posted...

I'm all for equality and pro-choice for all.
Abortion for women, and financial abortions for men.
Her body, her choice. His wallet, his choice.
It's win-win.

Nope. If you don't want to pay don't get her pregnant. The only time not paying shoukd be an option is if she broke the law in having sex with you.

If you don't want kids then keep your semen to your damn self

A_Good_Boy posted...

Dude sounds like a piece of shit

And 6 women still had kids with him. So that shows you that all that stuff. Yet people who aren't assholes get passed over all the time.

lennethsoki posted...

I'm all for equality and pro-choice for all.
Abortion for women, and financial abortions for men.
Her body, her choice. His wallet, his choice.
It's win-win.

I mean, it's not a win for the child who is now most likely losing the financial support that can be helpful during those early stages of life.

emblem-man posted...

I mean, it's not a win for the child who is now most likely losing the financial support that can be helpful during those early stages of life.

But conservatives don't care about children

I agree that family law is incredibly outdated and even draconian in areas.
Absolving the "father" of all responsibility is simply not the way to go.

Master_Kazuya posted...

I think the guy should at least cover the abortion lol

He does, but 7 who wanted to continue refused.

meestermj posted...

I agree that family law is incredibly outdated and even draconian in areas.
Absolving the "father" of all responsibility is simply not the way to go.

Let's me say that. I feel like sex education is very important. There should be NO adult who learns what a vasectomy in their 30s. Like he said he does wear condom time from time but he should have a back up plan and got his self snipped. Then offer a plan B.
But when it all else fails. He did the right thing and told them ahead of time, "I do not want any kids." He should be absolved from fatherhood. It is tough, but he did let her know. He isn't given a choice.

omniryu posted...

He does, but 7 who wanted to continue refused.

Let's me say that. I feel like sex education is very important. There should be NO adult who learns what a vasectomy in their 30s. Like he said he does wear condom time from time but he should have a back up plan and got his self snipped. Then offer a plan B.
But when it all else fails. He did the right thing and told them ahead of time, "I do not want any kids." He should be absolved from fatherhood. It is tough, but he did let her know. He isn't given a choice.

If the guy wasn't raped then he did have a choice.

A_Good_Boy posted...

If the guy wasn't raped then he did have a choice.

At each level everyone had a choice. We all had moments were we made a mistake. Where we just get so into the moments we skip a step. But when he was at the step, that they informed him that he had them pregnant. It was the women's choice from there.

omniryu posted...

At each level everyone had a choice. We all had moments were we made a mistake. Where we just get so into the moments we skip a step. But when he was at the step, that they informed him that he had them pregnant. It was the women's choice from there.

If you're making the same "mistake" over 7 times then you are willfully making a choice.

omniryu posted...

He does, but 7 who wanted to continue refused.

Let's me say that. I feel like sex education is very important. There should be NO adult who learns what a vasectomy in their 30s. Like he said he does wear condom time from time but he should have a back up plan and got his self snipped. Then offer a plan B.
But when it all else fails. He did the right thing and told them ahead of time, "I do not want any kids." He should be absolved from fatherhood. It is tough, but he did let her know. He isn't given a choice.

His choice was to have sex without birth control, any and all consequences after that choice are his to bear. Lack of education sucks but that's not a sufficient excuse to shirk responsibilities.

omniryu posted...

At each level everyone had a choice. We all had moments were we made a mistake. Where we just get so into the moments we skip a step. But when he was at the step, that they informed him that he had them pregnant. It was the women's choice from there.

Woman's choice to do what?

I'd say the government should have the resources to provide for any child at any time, so either parent can abandon ship at any time. The foster system is absolute dogshit that needs to be overhauled.

Abolish the family

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• Mexican President Victoriano Huerta announced that he had no intention of resigning.[3][4]

cjsdowg posted...

And 6 women still had kids with him. So that shows you that all that stuff. Yet people who aren't assholes get passed over all the time.

got to throw in some incel shit in this thread for good measure.

FelineCyborg posted...

got to throw in some incel shit in this thread for good measure.

Where is the lie ? We are talking about bad choices. 6 people bad a baby with a known deadbeat. That is literally what happened.

omniryu posted...

I remember watching a video where Dave Chappelle stated he was pro choice, he also stated the man should be pro choice as well. If a man give a reasonable time to communicate with a woman that he doesn't want kids, he should be free of responsibility. Which I kinda agree. However, this video is rough but he did give a warning and offered to pay for an abortion. This guy has 7 kids with 7 different women. He states he will not pay or participate in their lives.

Things I do not agree with:
1. Calling them a 'jump off' (pretty much sluts)
2. His non chalant attitude.
3. His horrible understanding of sex education ( he recently learned about vasectomy).
https://youtu.be/_Iop3u6lDys

Yuck yuck yuck! Trash all around. Feel sorry for the kids.

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But we're talking about this one guy, and they did do that.

A_Good_Boy posted...

If you're making the same "mistake" over 7 times then you are willfully making a choice.

This 100%. It's no longer just a mistake at that point. Like, if he was wearing a condom and that 0.1% chance of pregnancy happened and she refused an abortion, then yeah, don't force him to be financially responsible.

But he made the choice to have unprotected sex with 7 different women. That's on him too

Fuck this dude

A lot of men don't want to admit accountability for some dumbass reason, the women he slept with also don't seem too bright for not being more cautious, all of this is unplanned and immature and those 7 kids are gonna have a tough time growing up most likely bc of all this pettyness

A_Good_Boy posted...

If you're making the same "mistake" over 7 times then you are willfully making a choice.

My OP says I disagree with his poor education in sex Ed. How do you not know about vasectomy.

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Yeah, I am trying to find the term where someone focus on the negative and never look at the bigger picture. Like how incels say they are forever alone but they focus on the ig models.

Sucks that nature didn't give cis men a female reproductive system, I guess

omniryu posted...

My OP says I disagree with his poor education in sex Ed. How do you not know about vasectomy.

Even prehistoric sheep herders understood the correlation of "penis goes in and baby comes out". We're in the year 20XX and this did doesn't know what condoms are? Fuck out of here with that shit. He just wanted to hit it raw and didn't want to pull out either, just to cry that that there are consequences to his actions.

omniryu posted...

If a man give a reasonable time to communicate with a woman that he doesn't want kids, he should be free of responsibility.

garbage opinion for women haters.

A_Good_Boy posted...

Even prehistoric sheep herders understood the correlation of "penis goes in and baby comes out". We're in the year 20XX and this did doesn't know what condoms are? Fuck out of here with that shit. He just wanted to hit it raw and didn't want to pull out either, just to cry that that there are consequences to his actions.

He uses condom but like a lot of people he slips up sometimes..... 7 times to be exact .

BurmesePenguin posted...

garbage opinion for women haters.

Well, I want kids, with the picket fence ( and the even taller wooden fence in the back) with a wife. I want monogamy and equal respect.

I just think if a guy doesn't want to participate in his kids life he should give proper notice and pay for the abortion. If not, it is her decision.
When he told her that he will not be in this kid's life and he is willing to put the money on the table for the abortion, what did she do? She went along with it.

omniryu posted...

He uses condom but like a lot of people he slips up sometimes..... 7 times to be exact .

At some point, he needs to be held accountable to. If you don't want kids, you would think you'd try harder to not "slip up"

Well, I want kids, with the picket fence ( and the even taller wooden fence in the back) with a wife. I want monogamy and equal respect.

I just think if a guy doesn't want to participate in his kids life he should give proper notice and pay for the abortion. If not, it is her decision.
When he told her that he will not be in this kid's life and he is willing to put the money on the table for the abortion, what did she do? She went along with it.

Again, I would give this guy the benefit of the doubt if this was a one time thing, but he has gotten 7 women pregnant. He can't just go "not my problem" and be absolved of all responsibility. After "whoops" happened with the first woman and she didn't want an abortion, he should have gone "maybe I should be more careful next time" but instead he continued the same thing 6 more times.

He chooses to hit it raw, he knows how women will throw a man on child support any chance they get, and even if he did say I dont want children the women do NOT have to care.

All these women decided to have his children knowing he did not want them, all knew he would fight to not be in their lives in any way, and all of these women knew he was like this.

Everyone involved screwed up.

NoxObscuras posted...

At some point, he needs to be held accountable to. If you don't want kids, you would think you'd try harder to not "slip up

Fair, it is also his attitude towards these women. The child his mother are nothing but sex object to him as he stated. He doesn't care. How in the hell he doesn't know what a vasectomy is at his age.

RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

He chooses to hit it raw, he knows how women will throw a man on child support any chance they get, and even if he did say I dont want children the women do NOT have to care.

All these women decided to have his children knowing he did not want them, all knew he would fight to not be in their lives in any way, and all of these women knew he was like this.

Everyone involved screwed up.

Sex Ed needs to be mandatory. And it needs to be taught in at least 8th and 12th grade classes.
The 12th grade class would have to add the aspect we don't talk about, the finance and psychological aspect. They need to show young men and women what a dead beat looks like. If they can spot the symptoms they can avoid having kids with someone they regret.

Also, the finance, show the kids how much money it cost to take care of a kid. Tell boys that they can go to jail for not paying child support. Tell girls that many guys will leave them as single mother.

It has been a lot of a debate going here.

Can we all agree that every person in this situation made a shit load of a bad choices. And because of those choices the lives of the kids are going to be a harder than they should .

cjsdowg posted...

It has been a lot of a debate going here.

Can we all agree that every person in this situation made a shit load of a bad choices. And because of those choices the lives of the kids are going to be a harder than they should .

Fair

Mr_Karate_II posted...

That's not how it works, the man still has to pay support unless he signs off all parental rights.

I didn't know this was a thing. Are guys reluctantly paying child support because they don't know this is an option, or does pride or something drive them to want some involvement sooner or later?

I have to asume the former, because he did offer to pay for the abortion.

emblem-man posted...

I mean, it's not a win for the child who is now most likely losing the financial support that can be helpful during those early stages of life.

Regardless of if it's 2 loving partners, or one lone parent, no one should be having children if there's reason to believe they won't be financially sufficient in raising them.

He cant say he doesnt want kids and then pump out 7 of them