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NeatoAnAccount
03/16/23 4:26:09 PM
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Feel free to spoil anything Danganronpa

Angie is one of the best characters in v3. She has an interesting story about an untreated mental illness that eventually kills her. She's got pure intentions but she's extremely harmful. The entire cast has to take sides after she forms the Student Council, and it's really interesting to see who joins her and who rejects her. I love that the robot finds religion and Miu is creeped out. Chapter 3 is a really interesting examination of people's responses to mortality. Sucks that Kiyo did a strategically-nonsense double murder for no real reason. Would've been interesting if second killer was a different person and we had a murderer in the cast for the rest of the game.

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Leonhart4
03/16/23 4:28:36 PM
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Nagito sucks

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masterplum
03/16/23 4:31:37 PM
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It kind of sucks.

Everything it tries to do other games have done better.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/16/23 4:35:10 PM
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Angie being great is also my hot take.

I'm not sure I have many other hot takes among actual fans. I guess I don't think DR1 is very good? It definitely the worst of the batch. Can never really get a feel of that hot or a 50/50 take. I also don't think the V3 ending being amazing is a hot take, the people who hate it are just very loud and vocal about it.

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swordz9
03/16/23 4:36:06 PM
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It basically all sucks. I mean I like some aspects of it, but the bulk of the cast in every game is terrible, almost all of the worst characters make it to the end and the last one was incredibly bad.
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Crescent-Moon
03/16/23 4:36:24 PM
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NeatoAnAccount posted...
Sucks that Kiyo did a strategically-nonsense double murder for no real reason. Would've been interesting if second killer was a different person and we had a murderer in the cast for the rest of the game.
Biggest wasted potential in the series

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MacArrowny
03/16/23 4:37:23 PM
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Shuichi and Kokichi are the worst characters in the series

Tsugumi is a top tier character

Case 5 in DR2 sucks

masterplum posted...
It kind of sucks.

Everything it tries to do other games have done better.
cold take zone lmao

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ZeldaTPLink
03/16/23 4:42:02 PM
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The first game is the best one, simply because the story isn't too crazy yet, and it treats its own characters with more respect than other games.
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NeatoAnAccount
03/16/23 4:42:20 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
. I also don't think the V3 ending being amazing is a hot take, the people who hate it are just very loud and vocal about it.

I hated it! I still kinda hate it even after realizing that it's kind of one step beyond 2s ending. I just don't like that that's the direction they went with it.

Also how does the whole "everything is written" thing work with the characters rebelling against the script? IRL writers wrote that. Did in-universe writers write their own downfall?

Also the fact that everyone's name and personality and backstory was decided by the showrunners. It's Despair Disease from 2-3 on steroids.

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ZeldaTPLink
03/16/23 4:43:54 PM
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V3 ending isn't a bad concept by any means but the execution is just awful.
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NeatoAnAccount
03/16/23 4:44:09 PM
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masterplum posted...
It kind of sucks.

Everything it tries to do other games have done better.

Do you have some recommendations? I like the games but they're super flawed and I could easily imagine better versions

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FoolFantastic
03/16/23 4:45:15 PM
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Is everything implied to be written? I thought the whole idea was they invented these characters and prodded them in certain directions, but they were ultimately still the ones acting on those signals.

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ZeldaTPLink
03/16/23 4:45:30 PM
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NeatoAnAccount posted...
Do you have some recommendations? I like the games but they're super flawed and I could easily imagine better versions

Phoenix Wright.
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masterplum
03/16/23 4:47:16 PM
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NeatoAnAccount posted...
Do you have some recommendations? I like the games but they're super flawed and I could easily imagine better versions

I thought the Zero escape games were better in terms of story driven games with interactive elements and the phoenix wright games were better in terms of pure mystery/detective solving.

And lots of VN's/Games have better stories

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NeatoAnAccount
03/16/23 4:47:58 PM
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Tsumugi has the line "everything has a writing credit," which is different from what you'd say for reality TV producers poking at the cast

It's also possible she's literally making stuff up and the characters are just responding to prompts like you say

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Crescent-Moon
03/16/23 4:49:09 PM
#16:


Oh speaking of endings and the "Despair Disease"

I figured out where the series was going right at that point. You have this absurd virus going around (and then Nekomaru effectively comes back as a robot, making it worse). That was my "None of this is real" moment. I immediately suspected DR2 was virtual reality. Long before the end of the third game, I was already sure DR was some kind of sick reality show and that the real world was actually "fine".

I think they made the absurd too absurd for the "epic plot twist" they were ultimately going for.

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ZeldaTPLink
03/16/23 4:49:16 PM
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Problems with V3 ending.

Actual character development is revealed to be fake since those aren't even real people.
Completely disconnected to previous plots (since they are fake). Stuff you got emotionally invested on no longer matters.
It ends with an apology to suicide.
Ambiguous ending (those are hard to execute well and this isn't one of the good cases).
The robot is reduced to a plot device instead of a character.
Retroactively ruins the first case.
Did I mention apology to suicide? Cuz it does that, very unshamefully.
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swordz9
03/16/23 4:59:36 PM
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Oh right when I played them at least I seemed to be one of the few who had this opinion. Junko is fucking terrible and every moment shes on screen is agonizing. Also every last chapter feels like it takes 10x longer than it is because of how bad it is.
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NeatoAnAccount
03/16/23 5:02:38 PM
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Also yeah "it's all fake even in-universe" is a really lame twist, even if they started to telegraph it during the first game with the TV's

They don't do anything with it except include Tsumugi in the cast and that's not enough tbqh. They should've broken out of the simulation earlier and maybe confronted the writers and producers

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UshiromiyaEva
03/16/23 5:03:06 PM
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ZeldaTPLink posted...
Actual character development is revealed to be fake since those aren't even real people.

This is an enormous misunderstanding of the ending.

The idea that the actual plot was written and followed by the characters is nonsense because the inciting incident that fucked up that first case was the result of things not going as planned.

These people are manufactured characters but they HAVE attonomy.

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Anagram
03/16/23 5:15:38 PM
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v3-3 is great if youre willing to accept it as poorly-written on purpose.

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StealThisSheen
03/16/23 5:17:51 PM
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Kaito is the best character in the entire series.

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bwburke94
03/16/23 5:18:03 PM
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Shuichi should have died instead of Kaede.

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swordz9
03/16/23 5:19:14 PM
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That aint a hot take. Shuichi sucks ass
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Strife2
03/16/23 5:19:43 PM
#25:


Leonhart4 posted...
Nagito sucks

Nagito sucks x2

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Bitto
03/16/23 5:21:30 PM
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DR1: Kiyotaka is basically wasted as a character

DR2: Chiaki isnt interesting until Case 5.

DR3 Anime: Its not that bad. Its at least enjoyable for the new characters.

DRV3: Case 6 is just boring all around.

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swordz9
03/16/23 5:36:13 PM
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For specific character wise most of these are likely hot takes with regards to other DR opinions Ive seen around at least.

DR1 - Kyoko, Byakuya, Monokuma, Junko & Toko suck

DR2 - Nagito sucks, Byakuya is better than Byakuya and Mahiru is one of the best characters in the game (mostly since so many suck, but still)

V3 - Kirumi is the best character in the game. Maki & Kaito arent very good.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/16/23 5:37:46 PM
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swordz9 posted...
character rankings

Uh oh stop me NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo------

1. Kokichi Oma
2. Ibuki Mioda
3. Miu Iruma
4. Fuyuhiko Kuzuriyu
5. Gundham Tanaka
6. Chiaki Nanami
7. Nagito Komaeda
8. Junko Enoshima
9. Gonta Gokuhara
10. Kaede Akamatsu
11. Hajime Hinata
12. Sonia Nevermind
13. Kaito Momota
14. Komaru Naeigi
15. Sakura Ogami
16. Maki Harukawa
17. Tenko Chabashira

18. Himiko Yumeno
19. Mahiru Koizumi
20. Kazuichi Souda
21. Aoi Ashahina
22. Mikan Tsumiki
23. Celestia Ludenberg
24. Peko Pekoyama
25. K1-B0
26. Kyoko Kirigiri
27. Shuichi Saihara
28. Kirumi Tojo
29. Angie Yonaga
30. Toko Fukawa
31. Nekomaru Nidai
32. Ryoma Hoshi
33. Rantaro Amami
34. Byakuya Twogami
35. Sayaka Maizono
36. Makoto Naeigi
37. Korekiyo Shinguji
38. Tsumugi Shirogane
39. Chihiro Fujisaki

40. Akane Owari
41. Hiyoko Saionji
42. Mondo Owada
43. Kiyotaka Ishimaru
44. Leon Kuwata
45. Yasuhiro Hagakure
46. Hifumi Yamada
47. Teruteru Hanaamura
48. Byakuya Togami

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Crescent-Moon
03/16/23 5:38:09 PM
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Everything in the world thinks Toko is a godawful character, at least I've never seen an opinion to the contrary.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/16/23 5:39:12 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
Everything in the world thinks Toko is a godawful character, at least I've never seen an opinion to the contrary.

She and Komaru are the only good think about UDG and honestly it does a lot for Toko.

DR1 Toko is terrible though.

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MacArrowny
03/16/23 5:42:40 PM
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NeatoAnAccount posted...
Also yeah "it's all fake even in-universe" is a really lame twist, even if they started to telegraph it during the first game with the TV's

They don't do anything with it except include Tsumugi in the cast and that's not enough tbqh. They should've broken out of the simulation earlier and maybe confronted the writers and producers
But... it's not all fake in-universe. V3 takes place in a separate world from the previous DR stuff, where DR is a recurring game.

The scale of the two anime and the manga and UDG and the books etc. wouldn't make sense otherwise.

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swordz9
03/16/23 5:49:04 PM
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Id seen some people who at least liked part of Tokos character, but I disliked her as a whole. Honestly I didnt care for so many characters I never even shouldve bothered after DR1 haha
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Nanis23
03/16/23 6:00:38 PM
#33:


Oh wow this is a easy one

Ultra Despair Girls is a good game

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Inviso
03/16/23 6:04:35 PM
#34:


Leonhart4 posted...
Nagito sucks


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Johnbobb
03/16/23 6:58:43 PM
#35:


NeatoAnAccount posted...
Angie is one of the best characters in v3

UshiromiyaEva posted...
Angie being great is also my hot take.

I felt the same way back when I had a playthrough topic here and everyone disagreed with me

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Johnbobb
03/16/23 7:02:14 PM
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don't know if this is a hot take but

I like the series a lot but shit like Monomi the incesty diaper bear mean I'll never recommend it to anyone

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Zigzagoon
03/16/23 7:05:18 PM
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Kaito is incredibly overrated.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/16/23 7:07:28 PM
#38:


Johnbobb posted...
don't know if this is a hot take but

I like the series a lot but shit like Monomi the incesty diaper bear mean I'll never recommend it to anyone

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/2/8/AAeolZAAESTI.jpg

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Sceptilesolar
03/16/23 7:08:36 PM
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The series only had any value while it was a surprisingly popular LP on SA, once it got localized and people actually started playing it I no longer wanted anything to do with it.

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swordz9
03/16/23 7:10:52 PM
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Monodam is the only tolerable mascot in the 1-V3 games. I dont think thats a hot take. Just saying Monodam is the only bear that wasnt awful
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KCF0107
03/16/23 7:12:49 PM
#41:


The only thing good to really come out of Danganronpa was Haguile's interactive simulator project where in the first version I was a serial killer who gave the green light to do something crazy if my back was against the wall.

I was a pirate killed in a stupidly hilarious fashion in the second version, and I forget what happened in the third version where we went to an island instead of a school.

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Thorn
03/16/23 7:13:51 PM
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Huh, I don't really feel like any of my Danganronpa takes are all that hot. I guess I like Mahiru more than most people idk.

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BetrayedTangy
03/16/23 7:26:35 PM
#43:


Kirigiri is one of the worst characters in the franchise. Her only purpose is to act mysterious and then solve the case for you.

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AriaOfBolo
03/16/23 7:34:21 PM
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this whole time I thought I was the only one who didn't like the v3 twist/ending, I get dunked on for that a lot

bwburke94 posted...
Shuichi should have died instead of Kaede.

y'all I was SO excited to have a piano girl protag as a piano.....egg. And then we got bait and switched to Naegi-but-worse

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Raka_Putra
03/16/23 8:47:50 PM
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Mahiru is great and lovable.

The Monokids are alright. They're not even in the game that much.


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colliding
03/16/23 9:18:49 PM
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it's hard to have hot takes on danganronpa since it's default setting is chaotic

I guess my hot take is that it's good series that I have no interest of ever replaying again

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Paratroopa1
03/16/23 9:19:52 PM
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Nagito is the best character in the series, bar none
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swordz9
03/16/23 9:41:42 PM
#48:


Raka_Putra posted...
Mahiru is great and lovable.

The Monokids are alright. They're not even in the game that much.
Theyre in it long enough to be obnoxious. I mean theres a whole sub plot with them involving incest and pregnancy even
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Strife2
03/16/23 9:41:44 PM
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Nagito and Kokichi would be fine if they would shut the fuck up for five seconds. We get it, you're SO awesome and evil and the world sucks. There's a point where a great character idea gets driven into the ground by overexposure. Now shut up so better characters get more screen time. Let me watch Ibuki point at things, dammit. POINTING!

Anyway, speaking of Mahiru, I think of her like Haru from Persona 5. I came up with a phrase to describe it: "In a land of crazies, the normal people stand out more." Haru obviously gets shortchanged due to coming in way late. Mahiru also gets very little "character" to work with. But there was something likeable about her just being a "normal" girl when confronted with the usual pack of weirdos these casts present.

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BetrayedTangy
03/16/23 9:46:33 PM
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swordz9 posted...
Theyre in it long enough to be obnoxious.

Strife2 posted...
Nagito and Kokichi would be fine if they would shut the fuck up for five seconds.

Honestly DR has a problem with dialogue in general. It is sort of the appeal, but why do we need every character reiterating the same information over and over again. Do I need to mention how many times Hope and Despair are muttered?

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