Board 8 > Post Your Hot Takes Regarding Super Mario

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paulg235
03/25/23 6:12:26 AM
#1:


No, we're not done with these topics just yet.

Super Mario Kart is one of the worst Mario Kart games in the series, and possibly even a candidate for one of the most overrated nintendo games in history.

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Leonhart4
03/25/23 6:32:34 AM
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Yoshi's Island is mid

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LinkMarioSamus
03/25/23 6:56:30 AM
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Super Mario Sunshine is not that much worse than the best Mario games.

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Nanis23
03/25/23 7:29:39 AM
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NSMB2 is a great game and much better than NSMB

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TomNook
03/25/23 7:37:58 AM
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The "2" games are typically the worst. SMB2 is lame. SMW2(YI) is lame. SMG2 is lame.

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andylt
03/25/23 7:44:39 AM
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Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island is better than Super Mario World

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masterplum
03/25/23 8:15:02 AM
#7:


Do I not have any Mario hot takes?

Huh. I cant think of any. I think they are a legacy of very good to great games that all do different things pretty well.

Sunshine would have been great if it wasnt buggy as hell isnt a hot take

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Bitto
03/25/23 8:15:28 AM
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Super Mario 64 is not enjoyable

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LightningStrikes
03/25/23 8:23:09 AM
#9:


Not that hot but:

Super Mario 64 is the second worst 3D Mario ahead of only Sunshine

Yoshis Island is better than Super Mario World, but it isnt really a Super Mario game

Super Mario Bros. 3 is a great game but fairly mid-tier for the franchise

The New Super Mario Bros. games are generally in line with the originals in quality

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cyko
03/25/23 8:26:50 AM
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The Super Mario Bros movie will do so well that it boosts the series' popularity even further and convinces Nintendo to create an entire Nintendo Universe of movies that climaxes with a Super Smash Bros. Movie.

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ZaziGuado
03/25/23 8:38:24 AM
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They should utilize Shy Guys more.

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andylt
03/25/23 9:14:59 AM
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The Koopalings are boring and they shouldn't have brought them back as mainstays

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ctesjbuvf
03/25/23 9:35:56 AM
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I don't think I have any truly hot takes.

Super Mario Sunshine is an excellent game.

Super Mario 64 has aged terribly (it was perhaps the best game ever when it came out though ).

Mario Kart 64 is in the bottom half of the Karts.

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Crescent-Moon
03/25/23 9:49:51 AM
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Galaxy is bad.

SMB3 is good but put on way too high a pedestal.

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pyresword
03/25/23 10:21:27 AM
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Super Mario Sunshine is the best one.

Super Mario Galaxy is my least favorite game I've played that I can remember.

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Ashethan
03/25/23 10:56:18 AM
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Mario 64 didn't age poorly, it was just never great. Banjo Kazooie did it better just two years later.
Double Dash is the best Mario Kart
Mario Supersluggers is the best Mario Sports game (and it's a damn shame we haven't got another one)

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MZero
03/25/23 11:04:52 AM
#18:


Mario 64 is bad
Mario 3 is good but not great
Bowser Jr. is a great character

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Big_Bob
03/25/23 11:08:20 AM
#19:


Leonhart4 posted...
Yoshi's Island is mid
Okay Jeff Gerstmann

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ctesjbuvf
03/25/23 11:19:41 AM
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Double Dash is the most underrated Mario Kart.


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pjbasis
03/25/23 11:39:09 AM
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Mario 1 still the best

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Bitto
03/25/23 11:57:47 AM
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ctesjbuvf posted...
Double Dash is the most underrated Mario Kart.
Super Circuit.

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Aecioo
03/25/23 12:04:26 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
Galaxy is bad.

congrats, you win

what are your thoughts on galaxy 2

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azuarc
03/25/23 12:05:52 PM
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MK8 is just an incomprehensible mess of chaos, confusing maps, and fast visuals that should have been branded as an F-Zero game. (I have obviously not played a lot of MK8 to learn it.)

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Xeybozn
03/25/23 12:06:36 PM
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Having to hold a button to run is a major design flaw in 2D Mario games and is the sole reason none of them are top tier platfomers.

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Aecioo
03/25/23 12:10:04 PM
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also if you want my hot take

Mario Kart, as well as Mario Party, are bad series. Mario Kart in particular is a really bad series that has had multiple other games take it's crown but because it's not filled with Mario characters they are ignored.

Play Sonic All Star Racing Transformed.

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MacArrowny
03/25/23 12:11:32 PM
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SMB1 is the second best 2D Mario game.

The Mario & Luigi games are bad and make for terrible successors to SMRPG.

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ChaosTonyV4
03/25/23 12:13:45 PM
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None of the 3D games are as good as SMB3 or SMW

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Crescent-Moon
03/25/23 12:15:15 PM
#29:


Aecioo posted...
congrats, you win

what are your thoughts on galaxy 2
Never played it.

Because Galaxy was bad.

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pyresword
03/25/23 12:29:36 PM
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Is liking Super Paper Mario a lot a hot take? I know it would have been at one point in time, but it also feels like people have come around on it a bit.

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Leonhart4
03/25/23 12:29:39 PM
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Galaxy 2 is the best Mario game

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masterplum
03/25/23 12:48:49 PM
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pyresword posted...
Is liking Super Paper Mario a lot a hot take? I know it would have been at one point in time, but it also feels like people have come around on it a bit.

I don't think it was ever considered bad, people were just massively annoyed it wasn't Paper Mario

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DomaDragoon
03/25/23 12:55:45 PM
#33:


  • Mario Golf is the only sports spinoff series worth playing.
  • The Super Mario Bros. Super Show is good, and is still the best interpretation of Princess Peach Toadstool we've ever gotten in any medium.
  • Mario Kart 8 and Mario Kart Double Dash are the only two games in the series that still hold up.
  • We don't need any more Paper Mario, Mario + Rabbids, Mario Party, or Mario Olympic Games games.
  • The only reason any person could consider Super Mario World to be better than SMB3 is the ease of replaying levels. SMB3 is superior in every other way, including visual style.

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NFUN
03/25/23 1:01:57 PM
#34:


Double Dash sucks

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Kenri
03/25/23 1:33:24 PM
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Mario Odyssey is a Sonic game.

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FakeAccount3000
03/25/23 2:07:13 PM
#36:


The second best 2d Mario game is Super Mario Land 2: Six Golden Coins and the best is Super Mario 3

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RyoCaliente
03/25/23 2:13:03 PM
#37:


Wario games > Mario games

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Crescent-Moon
03/25/23 2:14:51 PM
#38:


Oh also

Luigi's Mansion 3 is about the definition of "perfectly average game". I felt like I was going through the motions the entire time I was playing it.

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ctesjbuvf
03/25/23 5:07:33 PM
#39:


Aecioo posted...
Mario Kart, as well as Mario Party, are bad series. Mario Kart in particular is a really bad series that has had multiple other games take it's crown but because it's not filled with Mario characters they are ignored.

Play Sonic All Star Racing Transformed.

You just won yourself.

MacArrowny posted...
The Mario & Luigi games are bad and make for terrible successors to SMRPG.

Are the Paper Mario games not the actual successors though

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Underleveled
03/25/23 5:10:05 PM
#40:


SMK is bad
SMG2 is overrated

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swordz9
03/25/23 5:22:48 PM
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Galaxy 2 is nowhere near as good as Galaxy
Mario 64 aged badly and is best left in nostalgia
Probably not a hot take, but Luigi > Mario and Ill always play as Luigi over Mario if the option exists even when hes just a palette swap in old stuff.
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MacArrowny
03/25/23 5:32:42 PM
#43:


ctesjbuvf posted...
Are the Paper Mario games not the actual successors though
I think the Paper Mario games are made by a different team. A lot of the people who worked on SMRPG went on to make the Mario and Luigi games.

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Crescent-Moon
03/25/23 5:55:08 PM
#44:


Related: Fawful is a terrible character and I don't understand why anyone above the age of 7 likes him.

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ctesjbuvf
03/25/23 6:03:28 PM
#45:


MacArrowny posted...
I think the Paper Mario games are made by a different team. A lot of the people who worked on SMRPG went on to make the Mario and Luigi games.

Perhaps. Paper Mario was at least originally called Super Mario RPG2

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ZaziGuado
03/25/23 6:29:16 PM
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Board 8 has scientifically determined that Count Bleck is a Top 10 all time character.

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Leonhart4
03/25/23 7:55:38 PM
#47:


Mario Kart DS isn't very good

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jcgamer107
03/25/23 8:01:50 PM
#48:


They made the perfect 3D Mario game on the first try

I agree that Super Mario Kart is not very good

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Leonhart4
03/25/23 8:09:42 PM
#49:


jcgamer107 posted...
They made the perfect 3D Mario game on the first try

Super Mario RPG is pretty good, yeah

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Kamekguy
03/25/23 8:11:09 PM
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Every Mario Kart game before 8 has been pretty mid at best, and "F-Zero if it were trash" at worst. Wii's kinda fun to break, though.

As an extension, Mario Kart Tour, through being a weird Tony Hawk-like combo game instead of a Mario Kart game, is pretty good.

Mario Party 2 was the best Mario game on the Nintendo 64.

Wario Land 3 is the least fun entry with "Wario Land" in the name.

Rabbid Peach is the best Mario character introduced or reintroduced in the past 15 years.

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Leonhart4
03/25/23 8:56:04 PM
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I feel like Mario Party 2 is prevailing opinion for best N64 game in the series

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