Board 8 > Tekken Mafia Topic 2 - Get ready for the next battle!

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Peace___Frog
03/30/23 8:25:27 PM
#151:


I forgive you. For the record, my town read on you is predicated on paper mario, and town read on red is predicated on luldayvigs.

I disagree with you on hb but i don't feel super strongly about it so we'll call it even in our disagreements.

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Corrik7
03/30/23 8:38:31 PM
#152:


Peace___Frog posted...
I forgive you. For the record, my town read on you is predicated on paper mario, and town read on red is predicated on luldayvigs.

I disagree with you on hb but i don't feel super strongly about it so we'll call it even in our disagreements.
Do you think making such reads on singular previous games is kinda dangerous?

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masterplum
03/30/23 8:53:37 PM
#153:


You know,

Thinking about this.

I wonder if IGCD is scum.

My initial thought was IGCD was bad town on me again, but the more I think about it the more I am questioning that assumption. It felt like usually town IGCD goes something like this

"Whoa plum did this bad thing" (It wasn't bad at all) "Oh man I am going to make a big deal about it"

This IGCD got to the point way more directly, and then kind of puttered off. Kind of weird. I wonder if he hopped on knowing that he wouldn't get any flack from it even if the train did succeed and I got lynched.

I probably should go back and review that more

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Peace___Frog
03/30/23 8:54:04 PM
#154:


It could be if you blind yourself to the actions in the current game, yes.

But i have selective memory and these things feel in line, 24ish hours into the game.

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IfGodCouldDie
03/30/23 8:57:10 PM
#155:


masterplum posted...
You know,

Thinking about this.

I wonder if IGCD is scum.

My initial thought was IGCD was bad town on me again, but the more I think about it the more I am questioning that assumption. It felt like usually town IGCD goes something like this

"Whoa plum did this bad thing" (It wasn't bad at all) "Oh man I am going to make a big deal about it"

This IGCD got to the point way more directly, and then kind of puttered off. Kind of weird. I wonder if he hopped on knowing that he wouldn't get any flack from it even if the train did succeed and I got lynched.

I probably should go back and review that more
The fuck? My vote on you is literally just sheeping someone.

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masterplum
03/30/23 8:58:20 PM
#156:


Give me your reads IGCD

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PunishedBen
03/30/23 8:58:30 PM
#157:


Alright

*looks at player list*

Yikes thats a lot of players.

Red and Lea are my top two town reads.

I think IGCD is town because of his engagement with the first couple pages where he made a few posts that to any bystander should be seen as scummy, but when IGCD is looking like scum that means he is town. Han knows what I'm talking about. Shame he's not here to verify but I believe he would!

Wallz I think had some towny responses when under questioning.

Sbell is town because of the hyped up "Ulti catch" which I think was too researched and dirty to come from scum. Scum Sbell is a much nicer boy!


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masterplum
03/30/23 8:59:39 PM
#158:


PunishedBen posted...
I think IGCD is town because of his engagement with the first couple pages where he made a few posts that to any bystander should be seen as scummy, but when IGCD is looking like scum that means he is town. Han knows what I'm talking about. Shame he's not here to verify but I believe he would!

Which posts are these?

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IfGodCouldDie
03/30/23 8:59:59 PM
#159:


masterplum posted...
Give me your reads IGCD
Town
Me
Sbell
Kirby
Ulti
Lea

Scum
Plum

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PunishedBen
03/30/23 9:00:56 PM
#160:


Peaf, explain to me your "Kirby is town" read, please

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masterplum
03/30/23 9:05:55 PM
#161:


##Kill:IGCD

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IfGodCouldDie
03/30/23 9:07:16 PM
#162:


I hope that's real.

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Peace___Frog
03/30/23 9:07:31 PM
#163:


PunishedBen posted...
Peaf, explain to me your "Kirby is town" read, please
During the Ulti/ sbell bout, he felt very much like he was trying to keep the peace and was a sane, guiding force. It was the same tone that he used on me at the paper Mario end game that pulled me out from my ass to win the game.

Could he be pulling a fast one on me right now like you did in that same game when i thought you were town on day 1? Absolutely. But that's my read :)

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PunishedBen
03/30/23 9:07:39 PM
#164:


masterplum posted...
Which posts are these?
IfGodCouldDie posted...
So which play should I make? Fake a shot on someone, tell the game I havent read my role PM or just follow the best player?
IfGodCouldDie posted...
My following really only matters at deadline anyway.

In response to Sbell:
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Nah, ill keep you alive.
IfGodCouldDie posted...
So I have to keep Sbell from being lynched, listen to ? as long as it doesn't lead to Sbell being lynched and must accept my lynching no matter what unless ? tells me not to and doesn't result in Sbell being lynched?

Do I have that correct?
And then he votes for Sbell a few posts later. Showing that he is truly wild and going with the flow in a way I associate more with town IGCD

Peace___Frog posted...
This feels like the igcd that jokingly dayvigged death at corrik's urging. Nothing special about Ulti.

IfGodCouldDie posted...
Thank you. Its nice when people read the writing on the wall.

I know I'm posting most of his posts from page 1 but they all do it for me in that "too embarrassing to be scum" way


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masterplum
03/30/23 9:08:05 PM
#165:


Its unfortunately not

Why did you hope it was real?

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Peace___Frog
03/30/23 9:08:30 PM
#166:


PunishedBen posted...
Alright

*looks at player list*

Yikes thats a lot of players.
Isn't 17 exactly the same number that we had for star trek? What is this reaction, Ben

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IfGodCouldDie
03/30/23 9:10:19 PM
#167:


masterplum posted...
Its unfortunately not

Why did you hope it was real?
Because I enjoy the day 1 visit for the lols and to waste it on me would be especially lolworthy

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IfGodCouldDie
03/30/23 9:10:37 PM
#168:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Because I enjoy the day 1 vigs for the lols and to waste it on me would be especially lolworthy


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Obellisk
03/30/23 9:13:55 PM
#169:


Peace___Frog posted...
Isn't 17 exactly the same number that we had for star trek? What is this reaction, Ben

he came in when most of them were already dead

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PunishedBen
03/30/23 9:14:29 PM
#170:


Peace___Frog posted...
During the Ulti/ sbell bout, he felt very much like he was trying to keep the peace and was a sane, guiding force. It was the same tone that he used on me at the paper Mario end game that pulled me out from my ass to win the game.

Could he be pulling a fast one on me right now like you did in that same game when i thought you were town on day 1? Absolutely. But that's my read :)
That's NAI.

Here I looked into the future at topic 14 or whatever when this game is over and found scum Kirby's post-game post

Kirby: That reaction of mine actually was legit! I saw Sbell's post and it ticked me off and I had to step in. I'm all for letting chaos brew, but those kinds of accusations are where I draw the line.

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PunishedBen
03/30/23 9:15:54 PM
#171:


Peace___Frog posted...
Isn't 17 exactly the same number that we had for star trek? What is this reaction, Ben

Obellisk posted...
he came in when most of them were already dead
This. It is taking every fiber of my being not to say "See you day 4", because 90% of my scum hunting is process of elimination.


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Kirby321
03/30/23 9:16:49 PM
#172:


Peace___Frog posted...
Isn't 17 exactly the same number that we had for star trek? What is this reaction, Ben

In Ben's defense, he replaced in when most of the players were already dead.

On a complete side note... why are we voting for Plum again? Someone explain to me what the argument there is, because I haven't paid much attention to Plum so far.

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Kirby321
03/30/23 9:17:08 PM
#173:


Ninja'd again goddammit

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Isquen
03/30/23 9:18:26 PM
#174:


Peace___Frog posted...
I'd really like to see some of isquen tonight and hear his reactions to and interpretation of events so far. I feel like he's definitely been hiding a bit.

##vote: Peaf

Peaf didn't read the flowchart and check the time. Ulti bluster is Ulti bluster, though I can see King as being an instant fakeclaim. No less so can I discount Lealea, who took her time taking umbrage to Ulti's... um... lurid advances.
Also it was LIME FROSTING

Sbell I could buy having a reverse soulread on Ulti. I COULD just be jealous of being slammed at work while he gets to jape about, but whatever.

Plum always looks terrible to start, no difference from the norm there.

So why am I voting for you, specifically, Peaf? You're trying to sway votes onto other people and disguising it as "let's talk about this, isn't that CRAZY?" You ain't Han, my guy.

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Peace___Frog
03/30/23 9:18:41 PM
#175:


Obellisk posted...
he came in when most of them were already dead
Oh right, i forgot he replaced in. Yeah.

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Peace___Frog
03/30/23 9:19:42 PM
#176:


Isquen posted...
Peaf didn't read the flowchart and check the time
Bro if you read the topic you'll see that I'm the only one who did read it, and you had a logical path in there where you argued you'd die twice. Forgive me for not trusting the rest of your patented document.

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Kirby321
03/30/23 9:20:50 PM
#177:


I have to admit, Isquen, I liked chang's flowchart more. It was easier to read.

Though the quip about the cookies was humorous

... We aren't seriously using that flowchart as an argument here, are we?

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Isquen
03/30/23 9:22:02 PM
#178:


Sure, I'll read the topics instead of skimming, but you're confusing "busy as hell" for "hiding." And hey, if I turn up nothing damning on you, I can unvote you.

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PunishedBen
03/30/23 9:23:22 PM
#179:


I read the flowchart and its the best thing Isquen has going for him at the moment.

The thing about Isquen is that this is all inside his town range, so what choice do we have but to let him live and treat him as innocent until proven guilty?

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Isquen
03/30/23 9:23:32 PM
#180:


Kirby321 posted...
... We aren't seriously using that flowchart as an argument here, are we?

I was gonna edit it to point at the timer and put "Peaf is here" but I'm likely not gonna be at my own computer til tomorrow. Alas.

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Isquen
03/30/23 9:23:46 PM
#181:


And by timer I mean my hours god I hate tax time

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PunishedBen
03/30/23 9:24:40 PM
#182:


And by guilty I mean like he has to do something crazier than claim cop and then vote for one of his claimed innocent scans

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Peace___Frog
03/30/23 9:27:12 PM
#183:


I didn't think you were scummy for not being here. I don't think i ever said you were hiding, nor implied that it was bad of you to not be here. I was looking forward to your reactions to things, which i am still looking forward to when your time allows for it.

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Isquen
03/30/23 9:27:37 PM
#184:


PunishedBen posted...
And by guilty I mean like he has to do something crazier than claim cop and then vote for one of his claimed innocent scans

???

I don't think I've ever been cop, nor pretended to be.

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PunishedBen
03/30/23 9:27:48 PM
#185:


And by crazier I mean as crazy as that mind meld

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PunishedBen
03/30/23 9:30:23 PM
#186:


Isquen posted...
???

I don't think I've ever been cop, nor pretended to be.
I have a terrible memory so if you werent lynched once for doing anything resembling that then never mind. But i stick to my earlier point that I've learned my lesson lynching you. Maybe you were doctor

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Peace___Frog
03/30/23 9:33:32 PM
#187:


You're confusing him with that one newbie, Ben.

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PunishedBen
03/30/23 9:40:33 PM
#188:


Oh yeah, that one. How could I forget

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Lopen
03/30/23 9:45:48 PM
#189:


Hb just vanished huh. We were having a discussion.

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Peace___Frog
03/30/23 9:46:57 PM
#190:


PunishedBen posted...
Oh yeah, that one. How could I forget
I think he had a Z in his name? But it definitely wasn't isq.

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Kirby321
03/30/23 10:08:57 PM
#191:


Are y'all talking about Tidus from Chris's Kingmaker Mafia?

It's a complete tangent but I couldn't help but be humored

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PunishedBen
03/30/23 10:12:00 PM
#192:


I'm partly thinking of the person I went after day 1 when I was fire proof in F 2021 and I'm pretty sure that was Isquen

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Peace___Frog
03/30/23 10:22:55 PM
#193:


Well i don't know anything about f2021. Before my time.

It was tidus, Kirby. Thanks.

Not that this tangent really has any bearing on anything here at all... I guess it's an excellent example of how fickle memory can be, and is a lesson i should take more to heart.

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PunishedBen
03/30/23 11:32:09 PM
#194:


All right I think we're ready for the bombshell. Everyone ready?

##Vote: Kirby

Kirby is scum. Woo-hoo! Never been in this situation in a b8 game where Kirby is finally scum and I'm not on his team. Feels GOOD to be on the other side for once! Poor Kirby though.

I've been not sure how soon is too soon to say because it would be nice to get more interactions first without him knowing I'm breathing down his neck, but gonna have to push this direction if we want to lynch scum today.

Kirby, if you want to know what I don't like, so that you can refute it, it's YOUR FACE. I don't like your face.

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Peace___Frog
03/30/23 11:36:00 PM
#195:


Shocked Pikachu face dot jay peg

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PunishedBen
03/30/23 11:40:12 PM
#196:


Kirby321 posted...

Care to explain this one, Lopen? I'm not sure I follow along. Ben hasn't done anything to ping my scumdar so far.

Kirby321 posted...


Lopen, I can concede that Ben's initial vote on Sbell is what sparked the fire that's putting Sbell under heavy scrutiny. That's not something in Ben's favor, but he feels town-ish to me. It's not a strong town read, but I haven't noticed any of his typical scum tells, or at least my intuition hasn't been telling me "Ben is totally scum" from reading his posts.
But also I dont feel I deserved such an early town read from you given that I have been very withholdy and lazy so far this game. Like I get the idea of "No scum tells", but was I really posting enough to be giving any tells either? I certainly dont feel I did enough to warrant a defense, so unless you can read me better than I can read myself I think there is something fishy going on and you have positioned yourself to get on my good side coming into this game.

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PunishedBen
03/30/23 11:41:54 PM
#197:


Kirby321 posted...
Hey, Ben, who are your town reads so far?
And you didnt seem to be bothered that i ignored this

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Peace___Frog
03/30/23 11:56:25 PM
#198:


I interpret that as Kirby saying not that you necessarily gained town equity, but that you hadn't gained any scum equity in his book. And for that reason he was giving you some town equity.

But I'm willing to reevaluate my read, sure. I'll have plenty of time to reread topic 1 tomorrow afternoon when I'm getting my hair done.

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Lopen
03/30/23 11:59:10 PM
#199:


Big thing that gave me pause over Kirby was that he called me "Mega Town" early and unlike a lot of games lately the rest of town haven't been agreeing with him.

I think scum Kirby has a PhD in Lopen psychology so I have been a bit wary.

I'll look into it tomorrow

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PunishedBen
03/31/23 12:04:44 AM
#200:


Lopen posted...
Big thing that gave me pause over Kirby was that he called me "Mega Town" early and unlike a lot of games lately the rest of town haven't been agreeing with him.

I think scum Kirby has a PhD in Lopen psychology so I have been a bit wary.

I'll look into it tomorrow
I think you're easy to call town if you are town because town reading you based on your conspiracies is widely known. I dont even know if you've done gone far enough this game for me to town read you based on this, but Kirby seems to think you have. So I can absolutely say that you are town if Kirby is scum.

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