Current Events > The Mandalorian Season 3 Episode 6 Topic *SPOILERS*

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CyricZ posted...

I mean, let's be real. "Dude who wins a fight for a weapon gets to rule" is a horrible way of establishing rule.

Listen, strange women diving in ponds, seeing mythosaurs and redistributing laser-swords is no basis for a system of government!

DarkBuster22904 posted...

No; it was made by the only mandalorian jedi, and has been an heirloom ever since

You're both right. It was made by Tarre Vizsla, the first Mandalorian Jedi, but it was kept by the Jedi after his death until members of House Vizsla stole it back during the fall of the Old Republic

masterpug53 posted...

Listen, strange women diving in ponds, seeing mythosaurs and redistributing laser-swords is no basis for a system of government!

The hell of it is that the "mandate of the masses" is tied to that "farcical acquatic ceremony".

Oh also the idea of "unifying Mandalore" with the Darksaber is an incredibly recent concept. It happened during the Clone Wars?

Now that I'm reading up on it, I'm even more confused. All we know about the theft is that it happened "during the fall of the Old Republic", but that's less of a moment and more of a long-term slide, so one could make the case it happened like maybe 100 years ago? Regardless, Pre Vizsla, during the Clone Wars, says his "ancestors" were the ones to have stolen it. His ancestors meaning like... his dad? Or granddad?

Grogu hasn't been doing shit this entire season. It feels like the writers wanted to keep him out of the season but they were forced to bring him back.

Also why are the nu-Mandalorians who are against the zealot og mandos so insistent on the rules for the dark saber shit?

Smashingpmkns posted...

Also why are the nu-Mandalorians who are against the zealot og mandos so insistent on the rules for the dark saber s***?

I'd say it's because they are still a warrior society.

Smashingpmkns posted...

Also why are the nu-Mandalorians who are against the zealot og mandos so insistent on the rules for the dark saber shit?

Orthodox vs Reform Mandalorians.

Smashingpmkns posted...

Also why are the nu-Mandalorians who are against the zealot og mandos so insistent on the rules for the dark saber shit?

I always see comments about how this show is exploring the nature of cults and traditions and the negative effects they can have on people but I genuinely don't think the show is clever enough for that. I don't think it's going to end with the Mandalorians abandoning their beliefs, they're just gonna brute force their way through their problems and conclude that their the way is the best the way.

It feels completely alien that a decade ago the clone wars show was very anti-mandalorian and their main conflict was about whether or not to embrace pacifism.

Lizzo playing the flute was fine. Lizzo holding Grogu is where I draw the line.

Smashingpmkns posted...

Grogu hasn't been doing shit this entire season. It feels like the writers wanted to keep him out of the season but they were forced to bring him back.

Because that's exactly what happened. Season 2 was supposed to "end" the grogu arc. Kathleen Kennedy reportedly pushed to bring him back, probably because he's the marketing face of the series, now. So they hastily shoehorn him back in in Book of Boba Fett.

Apparently it pissed off Jon Favreau so badly that he threatened to leave the project altogether, unless he was allowed to write season 3 exactly as he wanted. Hence, he's moving forward with the story he'd planned, which means there's nothing for grogu to do.

Hammer

DarkBuster22904 posted...

Because that's exactly what happened. Season 2 was supposed to "end" the grogu arc. Kathleen Kennedy reportedly pushed to bring him back, probably because he's the marketing face of the series, now. So they hastily shoehorn him back in in Book of Boba Fett.

Apparently it pissed off Jon Favreau so badly that he threatened to leave the project altogether, unless he was allowed to write season 3 exactly as he wanted. Hence, he's moving forward with the story he'd planned, which means there's nothing for grogu to do.

Hammer

I wonder how much truth there is to that. Either way, bringing Grogu back gave us that awesome scene with Ahmed Best so it was worth it.

I do think they shouldve kept Grogu out for at least the season. I love the little guy, and seeing him training with Luke in Book of Boba Fett was amazing, but it did honestly kind of kill the weight of the season 2 finale bringing him back so soon.

Though, I definitely get it. Im sure there are a lot of people out there who watch the show mainly for Grogu and wouldve done that thing that overzealous fans do and acted like it was the end of the world that Grogu wasnt there anymore rather than just, yknow, seeing how the story plays out.

The Ahmed Best scene is super weird and disconnected from everything unless you get the meta reference.

Blightzkrieg posted...

The Ahmed Best scene is super weird and disconnected from everything unless you get the meta reference.

Never seen him in that project he debuted in as that character. Was still really cool and not at all disconnected or weird.

i could see this show getting at least one more season but that's it. no need to extend it any further than that...

it could end with Bo Katan and Mando reuniting the Mandalorians just like the prophecies told or whatever.

rexcrk posted...

Never seen him in that project he debuted in as that character. Was still really cool and not at all disconnected or weird.

Yeah, it was pretty consistent. A Jedi had to have saved Grogu. There's absolutely no one we already know that could be involved because we've seen how fast the purge started. So some random Jedi played by Best was great.

ZevLoveDOOM posted...

i could see this show getting at least one more season but that's it. no need to extend it any further than that...

it could end with Bo Katan and Mando reuniting the Mandalorians just like the prophecies told or whatever.

Season 4 is apparently the half way point from what Favreau has said.

rexcrk posted...

Never seen him in that project he debuted in as that character. Was still really cool and not at all disconnected or weird.

Same here. I didn't even know why people were freaking out about that scene. It was just a scene showing Grogu's experience during Order 66 to me

TheSavageDragon posted...

Same here. I didn't even know why people were freaking out about that scene. It was just a scene showing Grogu's experience during Order 66 to me

I was just excited as fuck to see it was Ahmed Best lol. Like that was such a cool thing for them to do.

InfinityMonster posted...

Season 4 is apparently the half way point from what Favreau has said.

so he wants to make 8 seasons out of this? the fuck is there to explore there? lol

It kills me that there wasnt a record scratch at that droid bar every time Din and Bo tried to enter. Eventually they would attach droid pieces to their armor and bluff their way inside.
https://youtu.be/F0Qhf7EIBiY

ZevLoveDOOM posted...

so he wants to make 8 seasons out of this? the fuck is there to explore there? lol

The whole episodic ronin / spaghetti western model that Mandalorian is at its core technically has no limit plot-wise; every season could just be a series of tangentially-related one-offs with a loose overarching seasonal plot. Even more so since the lead character almost never shows his face (and thus never really has to be burdened by the actor getting too old for the role) and his sidekick is a literal puppet.

Which is why I think they wrote out the conflict over the Darksaber ownership, at least for the time being - this allows Din to not necessarily be chained down to the retaking / ruling Mandalore plotline and frees him up to return to the episodic adventure format whenever it's convenient.

Finally caught up to the current episode. I thought episode 6 was great. I was definitely not expecting to see Jack Black and Lizzo. That put a big smile on my face.

I'm a bit disappointed though, that they're going back to having Bo Katan be the one to unite the Mandalorians. For a while I thought they were preparing Din for that role. He's been accomplishing a lot and was in possession of the darksaber for quite a while. Plus, through Grogu, he's the first connection to Jedi that the Mandalorians have had in a long time.

Ah well. I'm still invested and want to see how this story goes. But I'm bailing if they really try to make this story last for 8 seasons.

masterpug53 posted...

Which is why I think they wrote out the conflict over the Darksaber ownership, at least for the time being - this allows Din to not necessarily be chained down to the retaking / ruling Mandalore plotline and frees him up to return to the episodic adventure format whenever it's convenient.

Which is exactly what they did in Rebels when Sabine gave away the darksaber for no reason to somebody she barely knew lol

Bo Katan has been failing as Mandalore for 30 years

ZevLoveDOOM posted...

so he wants to make 8 seasons out of this? the fuck is there to explore there? lol

Guessing; Unify the Mandalorians, retake Mandalore, rebuild Mandalore, tie the series in to the movies by having the First Order re-glass Mandalore.

Blightzkrieg posted...

Which is exactly what they did in Rebels when Sabine gave away the darksaber for no reason to somebody she barely knew lol

Bo Katan has been failing as Mandalore for 30 years

It's possible it's a setup.

The armorer is a hardcore old way cultists. Her sudden backing of Bo Katan is baffling. Unless it's part of a strategy.

Prop her up. Have her bring as many mandalorians, of any creed, to their enclave as posCreed, Then at her peak, have someone (perhaps even herself) publicly challenge for the Darksaber. They win, in front of the entirety of a new mandalore, and assert the old Creed as the proper Way.

DarkBuster22904 posted...

It's possible it's a setup.

All of their interactions up till then felt kind of sinister to me. They had one or two interactions before that point and it always felt like there was some kind of tension between the two, and I was wondering which one was plotting against the other. They both seem to acting out of character right now, but Bo Katan is eating out of the Armorer's hand. So, I suspect some level of treachery is going on. Probably going to turn Dinn against them all again at some point if they just use Bo Katan as a puppet to unite everyone and reclaim the planet.

TheSavageDragon posted...

This episode is probably the best of the entire series for me. You could take this episode and place it into Knights Of The Old Republic with ease. It really felt like a quest on a planet from KotOR.
Lloyd's casting kinda ruined the whole droid mystery thing for me. It was quite obvious that it was him behind it all.

I felt the same way. This was definitely a videogame quest planet hahahahaha

NoxObscuras posted...

Finally caught up to the current episode. I thought episode 6 was great. I was definitely not expecting to see Jack Black and Lizzo. That put a big smile on my face.

I'm a bit disappointed though, that they're going back to having Bo Katan be the one to unite the Mandalorians. For a while I thought they were preparing Din for that role. He's been accomplishing a lot and was in possession of the darksaber for quite a while. Plus, through Grogu, he's the first connection to Jedi that the Mandalorians have had in a long time.

Ah well. I'm still invested and want to see how this story goes. But I'm bailing if they really try to make this story last for 8 seasons.

Well technically he is the one uniting them. He just isn't gonna be the leader.

The episode was fine. Fun seeing the droids again. Lizzo and jack black could have done without.

This season is really fucking random. Mandalorians living in a cave with bi-weekly monster attacks and children deaths. Christmas tree jobber pirate. Longest episode devoted to a scientist.

Kind of mixed on how dinn gave the saber to bo katan

The past 2 seasons of mandalorian crushed it towards the end, hopefully same case here but this is trending towards being the worst season of the 3 (but trending to be better than obi wan and book of bobba fett)

I think the issue with this season is that there is obviously some type of friction going on with Kennedy and Favreau.

While these are still rumors, Favreau feels like he wants to fix the ST with his stuff. Kennedy seems to just want the gravy train going and insisted Grogu returned for 3 instead of taking it off training with Luke. Again, these are rumors and nothing confirmed.

I feel like the Mandalorian doesn't really work without Grogu. So I kinda agree with her, even if he's been mostly useless this season.

InfinityMonster posted...

I think the issue with this season is that there is obviously some type of friction going on with Kennedy and Favreau.

While these are still rumors, Favreau feels like he wants to fix the ST with his stuff. Kennedy seems to just want the gravy train going and insisted Grogu returned for 3 instead of taking it off training with Luke. Again, these are rumors and nothing confirmed.

I feel like the Mandalorian doesn't really work without Grogu. So I kinda agree with her, even if he's been mostly useless this season.

yeah while i am glad to see more of grogu, I dont think him and dinn should have reunited or at least that early. Grogu hasnt even had much to do or have plot related to him, he was just in to win paintball against some punk kid

I feel like star wars is trying to chase marvel levels of connectivity but not doing it right. Marvel never had someone take over someone else's show or movie like mando took over book of bobba and I feel like this season is still reeling from that choice. I guess kathleen was wrong as this mando's lowest viewed season yet, so that choice hurt the plot and didnt even improve theviewership

InfinityMonster posted...

I think the issue with this season is that there is obviously some type of friction going on with Kennedy and Favreau.

While these are still rumors, Favreau feels like he wants to fix the ST with his stuff. Kennedy seems to just want the gravy train going and insisted Grogu returned for 3 instead of taking it off training with Luke. Again, these are rumors and nothing confirmed.

I feel like the Mandalorian doesn't really work without Grogu. So I kinda agree with her, even if he's been mostly useless this season.

I wouldn't put too much stock in those rumors. They've been around the same circles saying KK is going to be fired or they're erasing the ST.

90% of fans would agree Grogu is the heart and soul of the show.