Board 8 > Tekken Mafia Topic 8 - Heihachi Mishima is dead

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Having thrown Heihachi off the cliff, few fighters were left. As the night went on, the fighting did not stop. One odd looking person was found beaten the next morning, laying with a sword on top of him. Some wounds, he could not heal.

Corrik has been killed. He was

One cavalryman can match one thousand men.

One of the most recognizable fighters in Tekken despite changing design more than anyone else, you have been playable in every Tekken game and in Soul Calibur as well. Despite this, you have never really been that relevant for the story unlike most other characters with perfect or near perfect attendance. I played as you the most in the first Tekken when most characters were somewhat similar but you had a sword. You are a rather unique character having many odd abilities such as sticking your sword through yourself to damage your opponent and healing yourself by basically sitting on your sword and jumping. Its not the best healing but its something.

You are Yoshimitsu - TOWN Death Delayer

Once per Night, you may target one player of your choosing. If that player were to die this Night, they will survive and instead die the following Night. Neither you nor that player will be told if you are successful. The player that tried to kill your target will however be told that this is what happened. You may not choose yourself.

You win when all threats to TOWN have been eliminated.

Fighters still participating in the King of Iron Fist Tournament VIII:
1) Abacus
2) Death
3) Hb
4) IGCD
5) Isquen
6) Lea
7) MZero
8) Plum
9) Red

The Defeated:
LD1: Ulti - Jin Kazama - MISHIMA ZAIBATSU Roleblocker
KN1: Ben - Lars Alexandersson - TOWN Vanilla
KN1: SBell - Julia Chang - TOWN Vanilla
LD2: Wallz - Nina Williams MISHIMA ZAIBATSU Ninja Sisterfinder
KN2: Lopen Lei Wulong TOWN Cop
KN2: Peaf Anna Williams G CORPORATION Ninja Role Thief
LD3: Kirby Heihachi Mishima MISHIMA ZAIBATSU Bulletproof Godfather
KN3: Corrik Yoshimitsu TOWN Death Delayer

It is now Day. With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch. Day ends Sunday at 6pm EST approximately 48 hours from now.

I guess next time I should say it in caps lock when I notice someone is at -1

The funny thing is I was really close to saving corrik but figured the only real winning line scum had was to hail Mary kill isquen hoping I did something like that

Don't let me down town

I tend to distrust flavor meta, but it does at the very least seem likely that Gcorp has their own godfather
And there is still a thing like too much protection.

The godfather reveal also makes me worry about Mzero insisting on wanting to backup cop as well

(I should clarify that I dont distrust people using flavor meta. I just dont find it often reliable)

I think this game is nearly unloseable barring something truly inane like isquen being scum and confirming two town

If we kill just one scum then scum has to walk into a watch killing me.

Death I think is still the way to go. Too much protection is am absurd statement given corrik wasn't protection at all

Cool role. Not really protection

Is someone able to grab the most up to date claims list?

I think the next step is to wait to see what mzero and dummey did

Also what did dummey claim the last two nights again?

Edumey - Bouncer
Isquen - Watcher
Mzero - Backup
Plum - Doctor
Red - BP

I think thats it, and the rest is all nillas.

So let me ask something: did anyone else bother targeting Dumey last night?

Oh?

I think I'm on a similar line as you Lea, except I think the major flaw with your theory is that G Corp roles being funky would also just be SO MUCH STRONGER than Mishimas. Redirect is basically just stronger than BP GF. Role Thief is just stronger than Roleblock. Unless the last role is really weak, that just seems imbalanced. I dunno, but if you're gonna vote me on setup meta, I think we should probably consider that setup seems imbalanced.

The much simpler answer is that we saw one BP GF flip. And we have another BP claimed that's in our "too much protection" claims in Red.

##Vote: Red

I do think I clearly stated yesterday that I didn't buy Red's claim. But I also know that tunneling into that wasn't going to do me a lot of favors having just replaced into the game. I felt much more confidently about Kirby after doing my reread, and town had discussed testing my claim during the night, so I didn't have any problems prioritizing Kirby.

I'll give one additional interaction from Red that I find a little interesting.
I asked Kirby to respond to my vote in post 7.334. Kirby responded a bit defeated that there wasn't much they could defend against since I was mostly going after them for association arguments and wasn't really misrepresenting any of their posts.
Red replied directly after:
Leafeon13N posted...

How are you crying about being dealt a bad hand? No one is calling you scum for anything but your own actions.

I think it's bad for G Corp to lose the opposing scum team so early, as that leaves them most likely outnumbered by town. Was this a frustrated Red trying to stir up Kirby to actually defend themself? Red is certainly not the player to go to bat to defend Kirby and try to direct the lynch away, especially if his team really believed Kirby was the last Mishima, so I feel like this is the closest we get.

masterplum posted...

I think the next step is to wait to see what mzero and dummey did

Also what did dummey claim the last two nights again?

HB targeted Lopen N1, IGCD N2. I targeted Plum N3.

EDumey posted...

HB targeted Lopen N1, IGCD N2. I targeted Plum N3.

Good night, sweet prince.

##vote: Dumey

Targeted Corrik. Dumey was the only visitor.

oh what the fuck.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Isquen

I mean I doubt there's anyway I actually survive this, but obviously kill Isquen tomorrow. Jesus.

I feel we need a more exciting gif for that.

##Vote: Dumey

It's okay I can't accidentally hammer this go-around.

You are forgiven Isquen

Oh and yeah good call Lea

##Unvote

I don't even know what to say in this situation, gonna be honest. Last scum is probably someone insulated if Isquen were to try and 1 for 1. I feel like even if they had no options to night kill me, I definitely wasn't someone out of lynching territory, so ultimately I'm just confused.

EDumey posted...

oh what the fuck.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Isquen

I mean I doubt there's anyway I actually survive this, but obviously kill Isquen tomorrow. Jesus.

Uhhh, there are literally two ninja roles and hes the only claiming tracker/watcher.

red13n posted...

Uhhh, there are literally two ninja roles and hes the only claiming tracker/watcher.

As if there have never been red herrings in scum roles before to throw them off? It's not like either of them were JUST Ninja. They were both Ninja X.

Let's play this safe isquen. You watch me and I save you and we literally can not lose

But please don't hammer till mzero claims

Lets not end the day anyway before Mzero shows up

Thanks MZero from the future. What a pal, trying to prove my innocence.

EDumey posted...

I think it's bad for G Corp to lose the opposing scum team so early, as that leaves them most likely outnumbered by town. Was this a frustrated Red trying to stir up Kirby to actually defend themself? Red is certainly not the player to go to bat to defend Kirby and try to direct the lynch away, especially if his team really believed Kirby was the last Mishima, so I feel like this is the closest we get.

This is some hilarious logic jump.

I appreciate the attempt.

Is it actually? I think you're just gloating because you think I'm caught out scum.

Well, let's humor a discussion, I guess while he sits at -2. Repeat: red-handed Dumey is at -2. I will not think any less of someone who hammers at this point and we can wrap this up swiftly.

I am still suspicious of Lea - naturally, the fact she's alive this long is impressive. I am also never discounting plum, merely a 95% townclear. The fact I am alive could just be a coincidence, since after all, I *know* I manage to make myself look terrible at endgame, and I have no way of confirming it myself. All we need now is to hope MokujinZero found something himself. Herself? Itself? Does a wooden golem have a gender?

That said, if we presume one G Corp left after that, Red would be the most likely culprit as a BP claim, especially now that Heihachi is known to have been bulletproof too.

Of course, town can also accept a resignation for a town victory. I promise I am not the type to gloat, merely gush from excitement that I gambled and won and will probably die if plum is lying. I hope you can forgive that I *didn't* watch you last night, plum (and you still might die tonight, if Corrik targeted you with the delay and you got hit regardless, but with the assumption that Mishima Zaibatsu is done for, you were safe.)

If for some ungodly reason Dumey flips town, MZero is next on the chopping block as a Mokujin claim, being a mimic character. It's happened before, with Ditto in SW/P.

Isquen posted...

Well, let's humor a discussion, I guess while he sits at -2. Repeat: red-handed Dumey is at -2. I will not think any less of someone who hammers at this point and we can wrap this up swiftly.

We don't hammer until Mzero shows up.

Isquen posted...

That said, if we presume one G Corp left after that, Red would be the most likely culprit as a BP claim, especially now that Heihachi is known to have been bulletproof too.

Yes, I definitely made a claim to say dumey's role is out of place because I am scum with him.

You want to read back all the posts in this game I made and tell me I'm somehow scum feel free. I fucking challenge the shit out of you. Have at it.

I was pretty limited with my availability but I'm reading back a lot of my shit because I was feeling on my game. Have fucking at it. CTRL-F "13n" and tell me with a straight face you can believe for even a second I'm scum.

If you can, go for it so I can fucking rip your face apart when the game is over.

red13n posted...

You want to read back all the posts in this game I made and tell me I'm somehow scum feel free. I fucking challenge the shit out of you. Have at it.

I was pretty limited with my availability but I'm reading back a lot of my shit because I was feeling on my game. Have fucking at it. CTRL-F "13n" and tell me with a straight face you can believe for even a second I'm scum.

If you can, go for it so I can fucking rip your face apart when the game is over.

Jesus, calm down.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Jesus, calm down.

I was calm. Don't know whatever gave you the idea that I wasn't.

I did indeed scan EDumey and got a result of plum is innocent

EDumey posted...

Thanks MZero from the future. What a pal, trying to prove my innocence.

This doesn't make you innocent. If your role redirects kills, why would you choose the claimed Doctor?

##vote: dumey

okay cool.

Will Death die?

MZero posted...

I did indeed scan EDumey and got a result of plum is innocent

Okay see this makes no sense now unless Dumey flips town, in which case I snagged a mimic for sure.

Unless Dumey has both a targeted bounce-from-self AND a night kill because wtf

I want to know what dumey is going to flip more than I care about much of anything else atm. So hammer away and stuff.

I mean, at this point we really don't have a reason to doubt Isquen. Especially since, as Red said, there were two ninjas.

Also, I'm okay with voting tonight and ending... Extremely early, if others are. I would appreciate end of day NOT being on a holiday.

Tag365 posted...

Will Death die?

Please do not post if you aren't in the game or aren't the host/host-approved. Thank you.

A Co-Host finally gets to do votals votals
[4] Dumey - Lea, Isquen, IGCD, (Death), Red
[1] Isquen - Dumey
[0] Red - (Dumey)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day is supposed to end 6 pm Eastern on Sunday but Dumey is at -1 so...

Isquen posted...

Unless Dumey has both a targeted bounce-from-self AND a night kill because wtf

Scum can usually use their night action and perform the factional night kill on the same night. This would mean the last scum is likely in the vanillas and didn't want to be seen moving.

I'd argue no scum wants to be seen moving to the nightkill regardless of what they claimed.

Anyway probably would be rude to end the day in the middle of the night. So I will let this keep going for a while.
Ending it before Easter sounds good tho.