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nononom0use123
04/17/23 9:41:35 AM
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Because it kind of feels to me that everything is quickly unraveling. Especially our legal and judicial systems.

Maybe the US isnt meant to be 1 country. Its too big and diverse and different from one end to the other.

Was creating the US a mistake?

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
04/17/23 9:43:02 AM
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No, it's not close to unraveling or falling apart.

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
04/17/23 9:45:13 AM
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I don't think we're that "close" to happening.

nononom0use123 posted...
Maybe the US isnt meant to be 1 country. Its too big and diverse and different from one end to the other.
I could see that

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uwnim
04/17/23 9:50:38 AM
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The country as a whole seems to still be fairly fine. But we are pretty close to individual states becoming fascist hell holes.

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Irony
04/17/23 9:52:44 AM
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I wish

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_____Cait
04/17/23 10:00:07 AM
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Its better if you stay off the internet or news

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nononom0use123
04/17/23 10:06:04 AM
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_____Cait posted...
Its better if you stay off the internet or news

that doesnt stop whats happening from happening.

ignorance is bliss

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RuneterranSnap
04/17/23 10:08:24 AM
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We have facism on the verge of taking over and an ongoing genocide so we're not going in a great direction
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SHRlKE
04/17/23 10:12:00 AM
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It wont happen overnight. Its been a slow decline for a number of years and will continue that way for the foreseeable future.

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MisterPengy
04/17/23 10:15:31 AM
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I'm kind of optimistic that with the internet, Zoomers will see and understand who is causing all this garbage, and be angry enough to turn up and vote them out. As boomers start to die out, the "values" that have led us to this will be less common.

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KTG2
04/17/23 10:17:37 AM
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No, but we're definitely heading towards a fork in the road where this either ends up being the ugly, final gasp of the brewing extreme right fascist movement or the path to inevitable collapse

Right now this is just what hypercapitalist hellscapes look like

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emblem-man
04/17/23 10:18:03 AM
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No, I don't think that at all

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MrKapowski
04/17/23 10:18:31 AM
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Is the Restrict Act gonna pass?

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Solar_Crimson
04/17/23 10:35:41 AM
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KTG2 posted...
No, but we're definitely heading towards a fork in the road where this either ends up being the ugly, final gasp of the brewing extreme right fascist movement or the path to inevitable collapse

Right now this is just what hypercapitalist hellscapes look like


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ElGatoBravo
04/17/23 10:45:03 AM
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Yes but not for the reason you think. We have come to a point where the inequality among the have and the have-not has become so glaring, so obscene, so indefensible that the ruling class has resorted to divide us by pitching us against one another with meaningless arguments about "woke" agenda, "culture war" and whatnot. You ain't solving anything by simping for either Trump or Biden.
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VeggetaX
04/17/23 10:47:20 AM
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Yall needa to stop letting the Twitter and news media convince you that the apocalypse is happening.

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RuneterranSnap
04/17/23 10:49:16 AM
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VeggetaX posted...
Yall needa to stop letting the Twitter and news media convince you that the apocalypse is happening.
Ah yes how dare we listen to these things that are actually happening
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Prismsblade
04/17/23 11:00:26 AM
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No, and if it does it'll be due to economic issues caused by our foolish government.

So at the least I'm expecting a long recession in the coming years or a long hard depression at worst.

nononom0use123 posted...
Maybe the US isnt meant to be 1 country. Its too big and diverse and different from one end to the other.

Was creating the US a mistake?
Hard to say. But personally I don't believe a system like democracy is very well suited for a country this large and diverse.

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Questionmarktarius
04/17/23 11:01:16 AM
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nononom0use123 posted...
Maybe the US isnt meant to be 1 country.
That was the initial ideal of federalism, yes. A bunch of independent states that are united to tell King George to fuck off.
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SHRlKE
04/17/23 11:01:51 AM
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RuneterranSnap posted...
Ah yes how dare we listen to these things that are actually happening

Thanks new user!

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Eramir
04/17/23 11:01:59 AM
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I think so, talks about another recession and overall cultural degradation

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nononom0use123
04/17/23 11:14:03 AM
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agreed, but democrats are def way too quick to defend Biden. I voted for him and am super concerned that he wont be fit to be in office much longer


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Glob
04/17/23 11:17:24 AM
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As an outsider, I can tell you that nobody in my organisation wants to be paid in US dollars anymore because they feel that financial collapse is imminent and if were still paid in dollars thats going to mean a serious real terms pay cut.
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Questionmarktarius
04/17/23 11:20:30 AM
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Glob posted...
because they feel that financial collapse is imminent
It's not, not yet anyway. It just seems that way every damn time the parties bicker about the budget.
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AzNDarkSamurai
04/17/23 11:21:59 AM
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not even close

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Gwynevere
04/17/23 11:25:58 AM
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I don't think verge of collapse is an accurate description, but we've seen an alarming amount of increasing power grabs by fascists over the years. Attempted insurrection on Jan 6th with a number of republican senators involved, worse and worse gerrymandering to give conservatives a disproportionate amount of power compared to their actual presence in society, police departments not even attempting to cover up stories of overt corruption and racism, and attacks on people's healthcare including stripping what little we got from the ACA, women's productive rights, and trans people's access to healthcare.

Thats barely scratching the surface, but fascists are certainly chipping away at the stability of the US every day. If something isn't done to curb those attacks very soon, then yeah we'll see shit fall apart at the seams. Fascists are historically really bad at keeping a country functional for any significant period of time.

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theAteam
04/17/23 11:30:41 AM
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I don't think collapse is imminent. We do seem to be on a long term decline. Quality of life is getting worse as basic necessities continue to cut larger chunks into peoples' budgets while salaries aren't keeping up with inflation. There seems to be no political interest in improving our infrastructure or even really maintaining what he already have. We're currently hyper focused on social issues and ignoring worsening financial ones. The dollar continues getting weaker.

MisterPengy posted...
I'm kind of optimistic that with the internet, Zoomers will see and understand who is causing all this garbage, and be angry enough to turn up and vote them out. As boomers start to die out, the "values" that have led us to this will be less common.

As we're already seeing in places like Texas, the government in charge is subverting democracy to retain power. I hope I'm wrong but it seems like just the act of voting won't be enough to get it done eventually.

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gatorsPENSbucs
04/17/23 11:34:21 AM
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AzNDarkSamurai posted...
not even close


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AnsestralRecall
04/17/23 11:37:04 AM
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VeggetaX posted...
Yall needa to stop letting the Twitter and news media convince you that the apocalypse is happening.

You need to stop pretending that everything is fine.
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googs19
04/17/23 11:38:12 AM
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As long as it lasts long enough for me to finish Tears of the Kingdom I'm fine with society collapsing.
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TerraSeeker
04/17/23 11:39:50 AM
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Probably

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Glob
04/17/23 11:40:09 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
It's not, not yet anyway. It just seems that way every damn time the parties bicker about the budget.

Not a lot of benefit in taking the chance really though. If we get paid in local money we can easily convert and the local money seems a much more stable bet at the moment.
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Questionmarktarius
04/17/23 11:42:03 AM
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Glob posted...
If we get paid in local money we can easily convert and the local money seems a much more stable bet at the moment.
May as well.
The US spending $1.25-$1.35 for every dollar it gets in, isn't going to be sustainable forever.
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VeggetaX
04/17/23 11:42:37 AM
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AnsestralRecall posted...
You need to stop pretending that everything is fine.
Thanks new user!

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Jagr_68
04/17/23 11:43:34 AM
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Depends on which side of the fence you're living in.

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KTG2
04/17/23 11:43:38 AM
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Prismsblade posted...
No, and if it does it'll be due to economic issues caused by our foolish government.

So at the least I'm expecting a long recession in the coming years or a long hard depression at worst.

Hard to say. But personally I don't believe a system like democracy is very well suited for a country this large and diverse.

Wouldn't be the 20s without a Depression!...:(

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Gobstoppers12
04/17/23 11:44:22 AM
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3 karma alt

Whose alt

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K181
04/17/23 11:47:26 AM
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A brand new account advocating for the US to split up?

Surely this is a well-intentioned attempt at a conversation.

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PoopPotato
04/17/23 11:48:51 AM
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Collapse? No. Major culture shift? Yes.

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nononom0use123
04/17/23 3:08:21 PM
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K181 posted...
A brand new account advocating for the US to split up?

Surely this is a well-intentioned attempt at a conversation.

well its gotten a lot of responses sooooo

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UnholyMudcrab
04/17/23 3:08:46 PM
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Who alt is this

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TaylorHeinicke
04/17/23 3:09:22 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Who alt is this


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pikakaeru
04/17/23 3:12:13 PM
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nononom0use123 posted...
well its gotten a lot of responses sooooo
did you get the answers you were hoping for?
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nononom0use123
04/17/23 3:22:55 PM
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pikakaeru posted...
did you get the answers you were hoping for?

i wasnt hoping for any answers, I was asking a question to discuss our feelings about the collapse of society

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Vampire_Chicken
04/17/23 3:53:26 PM
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MisterPengy posted...
I'm kind of optimistic that with the internet, Zoomers will see and understand who is causing all this garbage, and be angry enough to turn up and vote them out. As boomers start to die out, the "values" that have led us to this will be less common.
The boomer generation began dying out at least a decade ago, yet the decline seems to be accelerating instead of slowing. You're turning a blind eye to the threat posed by voters from younger generations who've been quietly filling the gaps, and it's because you're pinning all your faith on a naive, simplistic equation: one particular generation = wholly bad, all other generations = good.

If you think modern America will be a shining beacon of hope in 20 years' time simply as a result of the boomer generation having shrunk to practically nothing, I fear you may be in for a bitter disappointment.

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Trumble
04/17/23 4:02:22 PM
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It's been on the verge for a long time, but it's done a pretty good job of avoiding crossing said verge somehow.

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nononom0use123
04/17/23 4:03:39 PM
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Vampire_Chicken posted...
The boomer generation began dying out at least a decade ago, yet the decline seems to be accelerating instead of slowing. You're turning a blind eye to the threat posed by voters from younger generations who've been quietly filling the gaps, and it's because you're pinning all your faith on a naive, simplistic equation: one particular generation = wholly bad, all other generations = good.

If you think modern America will be a shining beacon of hope in 20 years' time simply as a result of the boomer generation having shrunk to practically nothing, I fear you may be in for a bitter disappointment.

idk it does seem like boomers are burning the entire place down because they refuse to let go of power


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VeggetaX
04/17/23 4:05:21 PM
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Do you guys know what a doomer is?

Doomer and, by extension, doomerism are terms which arose primarily on the Internet to describe people who are extremely pessimistic or fatalistic about global problems such as overpopulation, peak oil, climate change, and pollution. Some doomers assert there is a possibility these problems will bring about human extinction

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SSMajinVegeta2
04/17/23 4:07:05 PM
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Fascism is taking over. I cant even walk down the street without someone shouting at me and threatening to take my rights.

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