Board 8 > Should there be a Nintendo Cinematic Universe

(+) Yeah! (+)

Complete with overarching storylines, video game tie-ins, quips, and all done by Illumination?

I saw the Mario movie this past weekend and it was definitely fine.

Post credit scene:

"It won't be a melee, it'll be a brawl"

on one hand I'm worried I'll burn out on it as fast as I did Marvel
on the other I'd love a Zelda or Kirby movie

Accidentally voted incorrectly. Who puts yes on the bottom and no on top?

no.

Im on board for more adaptations of Nintendo series, but I wouldnt want it to be all in one homogenous style

i dont think childrens animated comedy is what anyone wants from the Metroid franchise

although I do enjoy the thought of an NCU following the MCU trajectory of having to adapt increasingly obscure characters as leads. Imagine living in a world with a six episode Urban Champion streaming series.

More Nintendo movies but no shared universe.

The whole premise of Smash Bros could still be done as a multiverse movie with people being pulled from different realities to fight.

It'll never be as good as you imagine

Leonhart4 posted...

It'll never be as good as you imagine

If Illumination is behind the wheel? Yeah. They'll all always be mid movies, or worse.

As of my vote, it's 50/50.
I voted yes.

This is my logic.

In a vacuum this could be fun.

In reality it would all be Illumination.

I do not believe Illumination is capable of making any of the movies that would be in the highest demand. Was this move fine? Yeah, fine, by Illumination standards quite good even, their best movie! It's also basically the same as all their other movies.

Would you want a Metroid or Zelda movie with the same tone as the Mario movie, voiced by celebrities and with licensed pop songs? Because that IS what you would get.

What about just regular no

I'm a firm maybe?

Going into with a planned extended universe in films is a good way to run into trouble.

I think if they want to, they should make a smaller-budget Zelda or Metroid movie and see how it works out.

With Illumination at the helm? Absolutely not lmao

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Would you want a Metroid or Zelda movie with the same tone as the Mario movie, voiced by celebrities and with licensed pop songs? Because that IS what you would get.

Exactly. The Mario movie was fine and pretty inoffensive. If they did a Zelda movie like this I'd get actually mad. Mario is flexible, I don't think Illumination is capable of committing hard to an aesthetic or vibe that other Nintendo series rely on.

I was thinking about this after I left the theater but the Sonic movies felt more "authentic" to the games for that reason. Yeah they're a mess and have a ton of corporate meddling but they're fun despite that and that's uh. Kind of the whole deal with Sonic games.

Also the best part of both movies are Jim Carrey and Jack Black who totally commit to the bit

the results are definitely because of the yes/no swap

Not if Illumination is making all of the movies.

Nintendo would be better off making more movies across different studios and then doing a separate Smash Bros movie.

Zigzagoon posted...

If Illumination is behind the wheel? Yeah. They'll all always be mid movies, or worse.

I don't think it really matters who's in charge. The movies will never match what your personal fanfiction conceives.

Leonhart4 posted...

I don't think it really matters who's in charge. The movies will never match what your personal fanfiction conceives.

I disagree. Get the same people who worked on Spiderverse and Puss in Boots 2 and you'll get some winners.

Oh, I'm not saying we wouldn't get some pretty good movies, but it'll never be the MCU, which is what this board has been fantasizing about since the Mario movie's opening weekend guaranteed more movies.

Yeah that's fair, I was more or less just talking about the quality of the films.

I would probably take an Illuminationverse over the current MCU clusterfuck.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

I would probably take an Illuminationverse over the current MCU clusterfuck.

It's all fun and games til the Minions show up in the Donkey Kong movie to help DK recover a stolen banana.

Don't joke because with the writer's strike anything can happen.

Should there be a [Insert Fandom here] Cinematic Universe

Definitely not.

Can't wait for the Rabbids vs. Minions crossover movie

Me wanting to see it happen overrides my opinion of Illumination. Sure I'm going to be super annoyed if an Ariana Grande song pops up in the middle of a Metroid movie, but at least there's a chance for a Metroid movie now.

BetrayedTangy posted...

Me wanting to see it happen overrides my opinion of Illumination. Sure I'm going to be super annoyed if an Ariana Grande song pops up in the middle of a Metroid movie, but at least there's a chance for a Metroid movie now.

+1

samus recollecting her lost powers during an Eye of the Tiger montage I'mma watch it

no - if nintendo realizes they can make more money on movies then say goodbye to quality video games

My opinion is that people vastly overestimate the number of Nintendo franchises there are that this would actually work with

Aside from Mario/Donkey Kong, you've got Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, Star Fox... Kid Icarus? Animal Crossing? Splatoon? I'm already being really generous here, since Kid Icarus and Star Fox are basically dead franchises (I'm not even bothering to mention F-Zero, fuck it) and Metroid would be a really tough fit - I could see Samus being a kind of straight man who's just taking her mission really seriously while everyone else is making jokes but that's about it.

There's Pokemon, but it's kind of its own thing and I have absolutely no idea what its legal status would be here.

Like I don't know, I'm just not seeing it. I want to see a Zelda movie for sure, but beyond that I'm not sure what you would do and I'm not sure how you would have them all team up and have it still be cool.

computer, render Fire Emblem as an 80's dark fantasy film

Subspace Emissary already did it

Can we just calm it on the cinematic universes? I feel they're played out...

Dreamworks and Illumination are both owned by Comcast. So there is a small possibility we could get some collaboration for things that don't work with Illumination's limitations.

Paratroopa1 posted...

My opinion is that people vastly overestimate the number of Nintendo franchises there are that this would actually work with

Aside from Mario/Donkey Kong, you've got Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, Star Fox... Kid Icarus? Animal Crossing? Splatoon? I'm already being really generous here, since Kid Icarus and Star Fox are basically dead franchises (I'm not even bothering to mention F-Zero, fuck it) and Metroid would be a really tough fit - I could see Samus being a kind of straight man who's just taking her mission really seriously while everyone else is making jokes but that's about it.

There's Pokemon, but it's kind of its own thing and I have absolutely no idea what its legal status would be here.

Like I don't know, I'm just not seeing it. I want to see a Zelda movie for sure, but beyond that I'm not sure what you would do and I'm not sure how you would have them all team up and have it still be cool.

Helping smaller franchises would be the benefit to a NCU though, right? A major advantage of the MCU is that it brings attention to otherwise D list franchises like GotG nobody would have cared about. If Nintendo can hypothetically bring people to invest in a Smash movie (and that's a major hypothetical), then people will turn out for a Kid Icarus movie.

That only works because MCU movies are frankly very homogeneous, and while Nintendo has a consistent brand identity that's not really the case for the individual game series.

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

That only works because MCU movies are frankly very homogeneous, and while Nintendo has a consistent brand identity that's not really the case for the individual game series.

I disagree, peak MCU was 2014-2018 and its specifically because all of the movies still felt like they had their own identity.

Cap and Iron Man led the crossover events

Guardians/Strange handled the cosmic/mystic sides of Marvel respectively

Black Panther and Thor heavily expanded on the worldbuilding.

Spidey gave us some street level action

Ant-Man was comedic relief

That's why Infinity War was so cool, we got to see all these different worlds meet up to fight a common threat

They had their own identity, but you watched because you're a fan of superhero movies. There's a formula that you buy into as a fan of that genre. As a Nintendo fan, I might watch a Mario movie, but I have zero interest in an Animal Crossing or Kid Icarus movie.

Kid Icarus would probably be pretty neat, though!

Animal Crossing sounds like the most pointless movie ever

Paratroopa1 posted...

My opinion is that people vastly overestimate the number of Nintendo franchises there are that this would actually work with

Aside from Mario/Donkey Kong, you've got Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, Star Fox... Kid Icarus? Animal Crossing? Splatoon? I'm already being really generous here, since Kid Icarus and Star Fox are basically dead franchises (I'm not even bothering to mention F-Zero, fuck it) and Metroid would be a really tough fit - I could see Samus being a kind of straight man who's just taking her mission really seriously while everyone else is making jokes but that's about it.

There's Pokemon, but it's kind of its own thing and I have absolutely no idea what its legal status would be here.

Like I don't know, I'm just not seeing it. I want to see a Zelda movie for sure, but beyond that I'm not sure what you would do and I'm not sure how you would have them all team up and have it still be cool.

4 franchises is more than enough to have a cinematic universe.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Animal Crossing sounds like the most pointless movie ever

there's already an anime one!

wait what the fuck how was that 2006

squexa posted...

Helping smaller franchises would be the benefit to a NCU though, right? A major advantage of the MCU is that it brings attention to otherwise D list franchises like GotG nobody would have cared about. If Nintendo can hypothetically bring people to invest in a Smash movie (and that's a major hypothetical), then people will turn out for a Kid Icarus movie.

Maybe but I think that's a huge gamble. GotG worked not just because of its pedigree but because it a type of movie - a sort of Star Wars-esque space fantasy comedy - that people really wanted to see and were willing to buy into. Kid Icarus just isn't gonna have the kind of mainstream appeal necessary. I don't think you can sell it, even if all us video game nerds think it's a good idea.

Aside from Mario and Pokemon I think Zelda is the ONLY other franchise that has both the name power and the conceptual juice to really work. Everything else is too hard to sell to people who aren't weird video game nerds like us.

I can see the world where the good Kid Icarus movie exists but I think it'd flop.

Paratroopa1 posted...

Maybe but I think that's a huge gamble. GotG worked not just because of its pedigree but because it a type of movie - a sort of Star Wars-esque space fantasy comedy - that people really wanted to see and were willing to buy into. Kid Icarus just isn't gonna have the kind of mainstream appeal necessary. I don't think you can sell it, even if all us video game nerds think it's a good idea.

Aside from Mario and Pokemon I think Zelda is the ONLY other franchise that has both the name power and the conceptual juice to really work. Everything else is too hard to sell to people who aren't weird video game nerds like us.

I can see the world where the good Kid Icarus movie exists but I think it'd flop.

Kid Icarus would be a massive gamble if we randomly got one today, but I'd say a standalone Dr. Strange, Ant-man, GotG, etc movie would be a massive gamble in 2006 without the MCU as well.

If a NCU happened, we'd get a bunch of Mario movies, DK movie, Zelda, probably Kirby and ideally Pokemon (if there's no licensing issues) which culminates in some kind of Smash Bros movie, which could maybe feature and introduce Pit and some other Smash characters. If the Smash movie's a huge hit, then I don't think a Kid Icarus movie following that (with the expectation that it'll somehow tie into Smash 2) would be that much of a gamble. Illumination also has fairly reasonable budgets so you don't really need to make MCU levels at the box office to be a success.

Of course, there's also opportunity cost and whatnot. The Mario universe is big enough that perhaps it's just easier and safer to adapt that instead of tapping other Nintendo properties.

GotG would've been just as successful if all of the other MCU movies didn't exist.

Honestly I think Kid Icarus could work fine, maybe even better than things like Kirby and Metroid. You don't need to play Kid Icarus to enjoy a movie about wacky takes on Greek mythology.

That being said it would have to actually be a good movie, you definitely can't lean on name recognition to make 40 billion dollars with Kid Icarus the same way you can with Mario or Pokemon.

MacArrowny posted...

GotG would've been just as successful if all of the other MCU movies didn't exist.

press x to doubt

Guardians of the Galaxy is a bad comparison for potential C/D tier Nintendo movies anyway. There's about a 0% chance Illumination could make a movie that good. Audiences won't turn out for a mediocre adaptation of something that's not already big.

Yeah, what makes the MCU work at its best is great casting and great writing. Even fans of the Mario movie would tell you it doesn't particularly excel at either.

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squexa posted...

but I'd say a standalone Dr. Strange, Ant-man, GotG, etc movie would be a massive gamble in 2006 without the MCU as well.

Blade had a trilogy