Current Events > I am hearing spiderman in the comic isnt doing too well

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What is going on with spiderman?

Peter Parker got cucked

He had to beg Norman Osborn for help because the Vulture was too much for him.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/6/3/AAUuC2AAEMIX.jpg

alphagamble posted...

Peter Parker got cucked

Come on, you're trolling. Spiderman isn't climbing top of the ceiling watching Mary Jane gets her back blown out.

there's an actual canon spiderman story that people follow?

deathproof12 posted...

He had to beg Norman Osborn for help because the Vulture was too much for him.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/6/3/AAUuC2AAEMIX.jpg

????? What?
No way! Vulture? Is he losing his powers?

Nukazie posted...

there's an actual canon spiderman story that people follow?

I mean yeah

Spider-Man is literally never doing well.

His life is basically that movie trope where someone is getting their ass kicked, there's a record scratch and freeze frame, "yeah that's me," except it happens every thirty seconds and the beating lasts the whole movie.

Wouldn't be the first time Peter died and likely won't be the last.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/8/1/AAPuJ5AAEcOV.jpg

lmao

Reddit keeps suggesting the Spider-Man subreddit to me, so I actually kind of have the gist of the story without actually having read it.

This whole storyline apparently started with everyone hating Spider-Man, even down to people like Captain America. Norman Osborne is his only real ally. MJ is with this dude named Paul and apparently has two kids. It was meant to be this big mystery about what he did to make everyone hate him. From the very first issue of the storyline, the question was, "What did Peter do?!"

The backstory so far, from what I've gathered, is that Peter and MJ were trapped in an alternate dimension. They met this dude named Paul and found a portal which Paul pushed Peter through. When he came out on the other side, he buried his Spider-Man suit for uh. Some reason. I guess to hide his identity? This isn't me not knowing btw, people were complaining about that making no sense. Anyway, apparently there was some kind of explosion at that location and his suit being there implicated him.

So while Peter's rushing to try and get back to MJ, he beats up Captain America who's trying to help him clear his name because there's "no time to explain!" He also robs the Fantastic Four When he goes back into the dimension to save MJ, it's revealed that time moves differently. She got over their relationship and now she and Paul have had two kids together. Somehow. While on the run from the big evil dude in this dimension.

That's not the sole issue, people were complaining about it long before all of that was revealed. This entire storyline seems to just be Peter getting shit on relentlessly and people are just tired of it. Marvel seems to very much want Peter to be this miserable piece of shit forever trapped poor and alone because that's rElAtAbLe.

DrizztLink posted...

Spider-Man is literally never doing well.

His life is basically that movie trope where someone is getting their ass kicked, there's a record scratch and freeze frame, "yeah that's me," except it happens every thirty seconds and the beating lasts the whole movie.

I don't get that. Dude is at least a 3.0 GPA student and he is a scientist after school how is life not doing decent?

Number090684 posted...

Wouldn't be the first time Peter died and likely won't be the last.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/8/1/AAPuJ5AAEcOV.jpg

lmao

Oh damn, that's rough.

pegusus123456 posted...

Reddit keeps suggesting the Spider-Man subreddit to me, so I actually kind of have the gist of the story without actually having read it.

This whole storyline apparently started with everyone hating Spider-Man, even down to people like Captain America. Norman Osborne is his only real ally. MJ is with this dude named Paul and apparently has two kids. It was meant to be this big mystery about what he did to make everyone hate him. From the very first issue of the storyline, the question was, "What did Peter do?!"

The backstory so far, from what I've gathered, is that Peter and MJ were trapped in an alternate dimension. They met this dude named Paul and found a portal which Paul pushed Peter through. When he came out on the other side, he buried his Spider-Man suit for uh. Some reason. I guess to hide his identity? This isn't me not knowing btw, people were complaining about that making no sense. Anyway, apparently there was some kind of explosion at that location and his suit being there implicated him.

So while Peter's rushing to try and get back to MJ, he beats up Captain America who's trying to help him clear his name because there's "no time to explain!" He also robs the Fantastic Four When he goes back into the dimension to save MJ, it's revealed that time moves differently. She got over their relationship and now she and Paul have had two kids together. Somehow. While on the run from the big evil dude in this dimension.

That's not the sole issue, people were complaining about it long before all of that was revealed. This entire storyline seems to just be Peter getting shit on relentlessly and people are just tired of it. Marvel seems to very much want Peter to be this miserable piece of shit forever trapped poor and alone because that's rElAtAbLe.

Oh that's why. I don't understand why can't they do just a clean reboot. Go through a through Z. And not some shit happens to him. Have Peter go through being a kid go to school fight some villains marry Mj or someone else and he lives happily ever after and the end. Then just say you start a new Spiderman in a different universe.. like every super hero TV show or movies.

omniryu posted...

I don't get that. Dude is at least a 3.0 GPA student and he is a scientist after school how is life not doing decent?

Oh damn, that's rough.

It's hilarious and ironic. Spider Man always shooting the shit, quipping and mouthing off only for his jaw to get blown off and his shit literally put on display for witnesses to see. This death was karma.

That is why Doc Ock should have stayed in control of the body.

Oh, also, that probably isn't even the worst of it. The writer said that his editor told him not to go to any conventions for a while because issue #26 (out this month) is going to make a lot of people mad at him. So they're probably going to do something even dumber.

Number090684 posted...

It's hilarious and ironic. Spider Man always shooting the shit, quipping and mouthing off only for his jaw to get blown off and his shit literally put on display for witnesses to see. This death was karma.

Well, I never thought of it like that.

cjsdowg posted...

That is why Doc Ock should have stayed in control of the body.

Lol no, then what will Peter do?

pegusus123456 posted...

Oh, also, that probably isn't even the worst of it. The writer said that his editor told him not to go to any conventions for a while because issue #26 (out this month) is going to make a lot of people mad at him. So they're probably going to do something even dumber.

Damn, it is that serious? No way?!

omniryu posted...

Oh that's why. I don't understand why can't they do just a clean reboot. Go through a through Z. And not some shit happens to him. Have Peter go through being a kid go to school fight some villains marry Mj or someone else and he lives happily ever after and the end. Then just say you start a new Spiderman in a different universe.. like every super hero TV show or movies.

Comics are obsessed with having a main canon that continues forever.

It's basically a soap opera really. It'll never truly have a beginning and end.

Punished_Blinx posted...

It's basically a soap opera really. It'll never truly have a beginning and end.

That's probably why the most popular stories aren't main comic canon.

omniryu posted...

Well, I never thought of it like that.

Lol no, then what will Peter do?

Well I mean Peter didn't deserve to die horrifically considering he has good intentions but this death is pretty rich all things considered. Sandman making him sand pregnant before he pops and him muttering Gwen's name is incredibly grim though. I kind of hate Spider Man's overrated ass so any slight towards him and his fans is awesome IMO.

Number090684 posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/8/1/AAPuJ5AAEcOV.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/8/6/AAcAeRAAEcOa.jpg

pegusus123456 posted...

Oh, also, that probably isn't even the worst of it. The writer said that his editor told him not to go to any conventions for a while because issue #26 (out this month) is going to make a lot of people mad at him. So they're probably going to do something even dumber.

Are we looking at the next 1 more day?

Im assuming that Sandman scan isnt canon.

I love superhero fiction. But I prefer it in basically every medium other than comics and shit like that Sandman page is kind of why. I don't understand how people can read that and still feel like getting the next issue.

And, yeah, the amount of misery porn that Spidey's life involves has almost ruined the character on a conceptual level for me.

cjsdowg posted...

That is why Doc Ock should have stayed in control of the body.

I was wondering if that was still a thing.

Killmonger posted...

Im assuming that Sandman scan isnt canon.

It is, but only to the Marvel Zombies universe.

Killmonger posted...

Im assuming that Sandman scan isnt canon.

IIRC, it's from Marvel Zombies. It's an alternate universe Spider-Man who Sandman assumed was a zombie.

That Sandman murder is one of my all time favorite pages in marvel. But it leads to one of my all time least favorites when spidey comes back as a zombie and uses his fucking veins as webbing to swing from shit.

Punished_Blinx posted...

Comics are obsessed with having a main canon that continues forever.

It's basically a soap opera really. It'll never truly have a beginning and end.

Well, apparently it doesn't work out. It would be one thing if they can pass the mantle, permanently, but they want to have the individual as well. That's no good.

Idk, clean reboots works for me sometimes.

splodeymissile posted...

I love superhero fiction. But I prefer it in basically every medium other than comics and shit like that Sandman page is kind of why. I don't understand how people can read that and still feel like getting the next issue.

And, yeah, the amount of misery porn that Spidey's life involves has almost ruined the character on a conceptual level for me.

Marvel Zombies is horror based so it's full of dark violent storylines and scenes. It's one of those "you know what you came for" type of deals. The shock value is cranked up and that's part of the appeal too.

Wow. And I thought the worst comic Spiderman story I heard was doc ock killing Peter in his mind and taking over his body and possibly having sex with MJ while masquerading as Spiderman.

Noumas posted...

Wow. And I thought the worst comic Spiderman story I heard was doc ock killing Peter in his mind and taking over his body and possibly having sex with MJ while masquerading as Spiderman.

That's apparently a very good storyline, but I personally detest the thought of Peter ending up like that.

Okay, au stuff that's clearly meant to be a bit grimdark is tolerable. But the problem I've got is that it doesn't seem too different from where the nastier main canon stories go. And at least Zombies had an ending. Main Spidey is permanently stuck in a hellish eternity and that stops being fun to read pretty quickly.

Doc Ock made Peter rich

Why does it seem that the people in charge of Spider Man always have contempt for their audience?

splodeymissile posted...

Okay, au stuff that's clearly meant to be a bit grimdark is tolerable. But the problem I've got is that it doesn't seem too different from where the nastier main canon stories go. And at least Zombies had an ending. Main Spidey is permanently stuck in a hellish eternity and that stops being fun to read pretty quickly.

And this is why I say have an ending and stop doing event reboots. You will have permanent progression, character development, and a well deserved ending.

Like do a 10 year run. End and just say we are doing a reboot with a different interpretation.

Southernfatman posted...

Why does it seem that the people in charge of Spider Man always have contempt for their audience?

Because these long story format just doesn't work.

Southernfatman posted...

Why does it seem that the people in charge of Spider Man always have contempt for their audience?

I love it. It's nice way to try and balance out all that ass pull plot armor bullshit he usually gets.

omniryu posted...

Because these long story format just doesn't work.

Yup. They try to keep it short unless fan feedback is very good along with sales. If a new series is crashing and burning they've got to be able to abandon it with ease and pump out the next hook ASAP.

deathproof12 posted...

He had to beg Norman Osborn for help because the Vulture was too much for him.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/6/3/AAUuC2AAEMIX.jpg

Norman: Yeah. So?

omniryu posted...

Come on, you're trolling. Spiderman isn't climbing top of the ceiling watching Mary Jane gets her back blown out.

The Irredeemable Ant-Man would.

I think it would be cool if they started a new canon where Peter Parker is 15 in 1962 again and actually followed an entire life story of him year by year that eventually passes into Miles and his kids that just continues until his retirement and eventual death of old age.

They'd never do it but I think it would be cool. But we're always gonna get 15-30 year old Peter Parker in the modern year forever.

Noumas posted...

Wow. And I thought the worst comic Spiderman story I heard was doc ock killing Peter in his mind and taking over his body and possibly having sex with MJ while masquerading as Spiderman.

That was actually a good decent story and you should read it.

Punished_Blinx posted...

Comics are obsessed with having a main canon that continues forever.

It's basically a soap opera really. It'll never truly have a beginning and end.

which would be fine but comic book time is getting far too ridiculous to take seriously now.

90s spiderman comics were the best.

Bass_X0 posted...

Norman: Yeah. So?

Norman is apparently his best ally in this storyline.

And from what I've seen, despite the rest of the story being garbage, people actually do like this direction for Norman.

pegusus123456 posted...

Norman is apparently his best ally in this storyline.

And from what I've seen, despite the rest of the story being garbage, people actually do like this direction for Norman.

I read a few of the Red Goblin issues but I find myself not caring for them.

Bass_X0 posted...

which would be fine but comic book time is getting far too ridiculous to take seriously now.

I can generally accept comicbook time so long as the publisher doesn't try and bring attention to it, like what DC did during the New 52 where they went out of their way to say everything in the DC canon had taken place in 5 years, and then immediately had to backpedal by saying "okay actually Batman has been at it for 10" because going through 4 Robins in as many years was just too fucking stupid >_>

The comics are a shit storm.

Number090684 posted...

Yup. They try to keep it short unless fan feedback is very good along with sales. If a new series is crashing and burning they've got to be able to abandon it with ease and pump out the next hook ASAP.

I mean that's what happen with Manga. If it is bad, cut it out.