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fohstick
05/09/23 4:47:12 PM
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https://www.twitch.tv/mew2king

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VeggetaX
05/09/23 4:48:23 PM
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Two completely different games.

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Jerry_Hellyeah
05/09/23 4:55:00 PM
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Smash is so much harder than Street Fighter, so it's kinda funny to see this. Plenty of guys ball on both, so it's probably just more proof of Mew2king just being kinda special.

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deoxxys
05/09/23 4:56:15 PM
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Mewtwo king is not been the best smash player for a long time.

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Barber102
05/09/23 4:59:44 PM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Smash is so much harder than Street Fighter, so it's kinda funny to see this. Plenty of guys ball on both, so it's probably just more proof of Mew2king just being kinda special.

smash is ez mode fighter what kind of crack you smoking?

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Ushiromiya
05/09/23 5:00:01 PM
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VeggetaX posted...
Two completely different games.


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Jerry_Hellyeah
05/09/23 5:11:02 PM
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Barber102 posted...
smash is ez mode fighter what kind of crack you smoking?

Im not trying to be that guy, but theres really no other response: you're probably not very good at Smash.

I only play fighters, and I play them a lot, and I've done this for a long time. Smash is far beyond Street Fighter or Marvel in terms of technical requirements and the complexity of its mindgames.

Dont be like this.

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knightmarexx
05/09/23 5:11:10 PM
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Smash Bros is a party game, whereas Street Fighter is a fighting game.
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Number090684
05/09/23 5:13:19 PM
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SF is harder than SB in some ways. You don't have as much mobility so it's harder to get in, you can't mash for combos and need to time your inputs for strings and combo inputs are a bit more complicated. Would like to see how a SB players reacts to GG.
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DeepFriedSquid
05/09/23 5:13:33 PM
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knightmarexx posted...
Smash Bros is a party game, whereas Street Fighter is a fighting game.
Damn you beat me to it lmao
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Despised
05/09/23 5:14:10 PM
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M2K is washed tho

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Jagr_68
05/09/23 5:14:58 PM
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knightmarexx posted...
Smash Bros is a party game, whereas Street Fighter is a fighting game.



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Pogo_Marimo
05/09/23 5:16:01 PM
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Even low-level SFV is pretty reliant on having either prior SF/2D Fighter experience or a general understanding of how most characters work. As someone who made the transition within the last year, I can promise you there is almost no translatable skills between SSB and SF. It was like learning how to walk again.

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ToadallyAwesome
05/09/23 5:16:29 PM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Im not trying to be that guy, but theres really no other response: you're probably not very good at Smash.

I only play fighters, and I play them a lot, and I've done this for a long time. Smash is far beyond Street Fighter or Marvel in terms of technical requirements and the complexity of its mindgames.

Dont be like this.

Your the one going down this rabbit hole man. I dont think you will get the support you think you will.

Also Im not sure if you really want to bank on mind games as a selling featureinstead of actual mechanics.

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garan
05/09/23 5:20:45 PM
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knightmarexx posted...
Smash Bros is a party game, whereas Street Fighter is a fighting game.


This.
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Irony
05/09/23 5:21:18 PM
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World's greatest Gran Turismo player struggling in Unreal Tournament

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Southernfatman
05/09/23 5:23:15 PM
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I'm not even a big Smash brothers fan, but it's wild how people are so against it in this way. It's just a different kind of fighting game. Not all of them have to be the same.

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Jerry_Hellyeah
05/09/23 5:23:57 PM
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ToadallyAwesome posted...
Your the one going down this rabbit hole man. I dont think you will get the support you think you will.

Also Im not sure if you really want to bank on mind games as a selling featureinstead of actual mechanics.

So you dont play fighting games against people, but you still want to get mad about the difficulty as if that makes it better or worse. As if I'm insulting Street Fighter by saying Smash is more technically demanding.

Take a step back and think on this, bud.

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Pogo_Marimo
05/09/23 5:51:55 PM
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ToadallyAwesome posted...
Your the one going down this rabbit hole man. I dont think you will get the support you think you will.

Also Im not sure if you really want to bank on mind games as a selling featureinstead of actual mechanics.
Lol what.

Mind games is the entire reason fighting games are fun. The mechanics are the work you need to put in to get to the fun part that is the mind games.

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Barber102
05/10/23 8:10:52 AM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Im not trying to be that guy, but theres really no other response: you're probably not very good at Smash.

I only play fighters, and I play them a lot, and I've done this for a long time. Smash is far beyond Street Fighter or Marvel in terms of technical requirements and the complexity of its mindgames.

Dont be like this.

Im sorry to break it too you but the fgc barely considers smash to be a fighting game. Maybe you should take your own advice and not be like that. Even mortal kombat takes more skill than smash and MK is on the lowest end of complexity.


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K181
05/10/23 8:26:24 AM
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knightmarexx posted...
Smash Bros is a party game, whereas Street Fighter is a fighting game.

Yup. Same as how Mario Kart is also a party game.

All the more funny though that Smash and Mario Kart are the best-selling fighting and racing game franchises.

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voldothegr8
05/10/23 8:32:09 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I like how after this was posted the convo switched to "wElL SmAsH iSnT a fIgHtEr aNyWay"

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Bigbot84
05/10/23 8:45:16 AM
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knightmarexx posted...
Smash Bros is a party game, whereas Street Fighter is a fighting game.

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Ratchetrockon
05/10/23 8:46:35 AM
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Damn

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ANort175
05/10/23 8:47:26 AM
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World's greatest Corey in the House player struggling in Dark Souls

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Jerry_Hellyeah
05/10/23 10:53:55 AM
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Barber102 posted...
Im sorry to break it too you but the fgc barely considers smash to be a fighting game. Maybe you should take your own advice and not be like that. Even mortal kombat takes more skill than smash and MK is on the lowest end of complexity.

Oh get your fgc out of your mouth. I've been going to majors for a decade and a half. I play fighting games with people that play fighting games. You're not the guy to talk to anyone about this stuff.

If you think Smash takes less technical skill and is less complex than Mortal Kombat, you're definitely mad and bad, and I'll gladly lay you out in either any time you want.

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Barber102
05/10/23 10:56:48 AM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Oh get your fgc out of your mouth. I've been going to majors for a decade and a half. I play fighting games with people that play fighting games. You're not the guy to talk to anyone about this stuff.

If you think Smash takes less technical skill and is less complex than Mortal Kombat, you're definitely mad and bad, and I'll gladly lay you out in either any time you want.

youre the one seething over truth my guy. Sorry smash isnt a fighting game and is a party game. That reality doesnt hurt my feelings, but seems to definitively hurt yours.

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MacandCheese5
05/10/23 11:01:50 AM
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I have never really understood the whole "Smash is a party game/not a fighting game" thing.
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GrandConjuraton
05/10/23 11:04:40 AM
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Smash isn't a fighting game, so...

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ZMythos
05/10/23 11:05:23 AM
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MacandCheese5 posted...
I have never really understood the whole "Smash is a party game/not a fighting game" thing.
Funny characters and cartoony animation mean it's not a fighter.

Also something something frame data something something netcode something something joystick and buttons.

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pojr
05/10/23 11:05:29 AM
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I thought this topic was about mkleo

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HannibalBarca3
05/10/23 11:08:38 AM
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M2K isn't even the best smash player for melee. And in Ultimate is a toss up between sparg0 and acola.

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Gwynevere
05/10/23 11:11:49 AM
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MacandCheese5 posted...
I have never really understood the whole "Smash is a party game/not a fighting game" thing.
It's a decades old meme at this point

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Sharashaska
05/10/23 11:27:40 AM
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knightmarexx posted...
Smash Bros is a party game, whereas Street Fighter is a fighting game.

GrandConjuraton posted...
Smash isn't a fighting game, so...


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Prestoff
05/10/23 11:33:58 AM
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There's a reason a lot of the FGC doesn't consider Smash to be a fighting game and instead it's own thing, because the majority of Smash players only exclusively play Smash. Hell, very little of them even branch out to other platform fighters like Rivals of Aether or Brawlhalla. At least with other "traditional" fighters, there's a lot of intersects with other FGC players. The biggest obstacle for many Smash players are the button inputs to do specials. I still consider Smash a fighting game, but many of the things that you learn in Smash can't really be carried over to other fighting games, hence why Smash players struggle so hard.

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Jerry_Hellyeah
05/10/23 11:39:55 AM
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Barber102 posted...
youre the one seething over truth my guy. Sorry smash isnt a fighting game and is a party game. That reality doesnt hurt my feelings, but seems to definitively hurt yours.

Hey, at least you didnt try to act like you had a chance. I can appreciate that. Somebodys gotta be the bad one.

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Barber102
05/10/23 12:02:09 PM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Hey, at least you didnt try to act like you had a chance. I can appreciate that. Somebodys gotta be the bad one.

Eh? Probably more to do with the fact that Im not willing to subscribe to any online service to play you, nor am I willing to buy anything to play you on pc. Just to have you potentially dodge anyway.

Also its not good to live in a false reality my guy, being the bad one isnt worth it. Smash isnt a fighting game. Deal with it.


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Jerry_Hellyeah
05/10/23 1:08:41 PM
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Barber102 posted...
Eh? Probably more to do with the fact that Im not willing to subscribe to any online service to play you, nor am I willing to buy anything to play you on pc. Just to have you potentially dodge anyway.

Also its not good to live in a false reality my guy, being the bad one isnt worth it. Smash isnt a fighting game. Deal with it.

Lol damn, laying out excuses cross-platform.

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Sharashaska
05/10/23 4:17:02 PM
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Barber102 posted...
Smash isnt a fighting game
ILY

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Kloe_Rinz
05/10/23 4:20:12 PM
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knightmarexx posted...
Smash Bros is a party game, whereas Street Fighter is a fighting game.
Street Fighter isnt a fighting game, its a Party Game. Nobody can disprove me on this.
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FL81
05/10/23 4:41:09 PM
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man, whenever an FGC poster starts ragging on Smash here, it's always a Street Fighter player
most boring fighting game series too, at least play something fun like Guilty Gear

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NeonTentacles
05/10/23 4:41:44 PM
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lolProfessionalSmashPlayers. That's what happened.

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Zero_Destroyer
05/10/23 4:42:15 PM
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m2k hasn't even been a top melee player in several years

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MuscleRobo
05/10/23 4:42:52 PM
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NeonTentacles posted...
lolProfessionalSmashPlayers. That's what happened.
One of them wished on a monkey paw they'd all stop being called "Smelly" then they all became sex offenders.
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Zero_Destroyer
05/10/23 4:45:23 PM
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As far as this topic goes... there's not a lot of real crossover between the FGC/Smash scenes. Leffen is world class at both but the FGC players who've tried to play Smash tended to be 1-2ers at locals.

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NeonTentacles
05/10/23 4:45:56 PM
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MuscleRobo posted...
One of them wished on a monkey paw they'd all stop being called "Smelly" then they all became sex offenders.
I believe it.

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ArsGoetia
05/10/23 4:47:31 PM
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the macho posturing of
"oh yeah? ill kick yer ass in this video game, unless yer too chicken"
ITT is wonderfully 3rd grade
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Zero_Destroyer
05/10/23 4:50:04 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
I'm not even a big Smash brothers fan, but it's wild how people are so against it in this way. It's just a different kind of fighting game. Not all of them have to be the same.

I'm trying to imagine if this kind of debate existed within shooters

Smash is pretty widely agreed to be a platformer fighter with occasional ties to the FGC through a handful of majors. Smash is much larger than most FGC titles and has its own events and there's not a ton of motivation for exact crossover outside of a handful of Midwestern FGC events and Canada Cup

Certainly not a trad fighter and Leffen proves you can be good at both, but the incentive to do so is low.

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