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sabin017
06/16/23 10:04:41 PM
#102:


I'm done with the DCEU. Aquaman and Shazam get 2 standalone films while Superman gets 1 and Batman none. What were they thinking?

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mystic_belmont
06/16/23 10:12:22 PM
#104:


sabin017 posted...
I'm done with the DCEU. Aquaman and Shazam get 2 standalone films while Superman gets 1 and Batman none. What were they thinking?

And DC somehow decided to do a Justice League movie having Affleck be in the BVS, no Aquaman/Wonder Woman/Flash movies. Extremely rushed and lazy. The bad guy even sucked. Why was he on Earth?

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Zikten
06/16/23 10:27:29 PM
#105:


B18Champ posted...
Saw it earlier today and it was confirmed to be complete dog s***. The story made no sense, the CGI was abysmal and having two Ezra Millers was incredibly annoying. You're better off just watching Flashpoint Paradox and forgetting this movies exists.
Sounds like they butchered the Flashpoint story from the comics
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Requiem
06/16/23 10:37:54 PM
#106:


VampireCoyote posted...
Who the heck wants to sit through an entire movie anymore

2 hours+ in a theater watching the same thing? Cant even pause to do a pee?

big no thank

Some poster explained in another topic that the movies are getting longer because of the demand by the foreign market (aka "if we paid $x to see a movie, we better get Y hours worth of entertainment" logic).

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Zikten
06/16/23 10:42:39 PM
#107:


Requiem posted...
Some poster explained in another topic that the movies are getting longer because of the demand by the foreign market (aka "if we paid $x to see a movie, we better get Y hours worth of entertainment" logic).
Then they should bring back mid movie breaks
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Requiem
06/16/23 10:48:43 PM
#108:


That probably would go well with the foreign market.

I wonder if the US market (or rather, theaters) can afford it.
If the movies become 3+ hr to show (including breaks)... that's like two shows worth of time, essentially cutting the theater's income by half.

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dancing_cactuar
06/16/23 11:07:00 PM
#109:


These next few months are going to be real bad for a lotta movies. Flash is already projected to have a worse opening than Black Adam despite all the shilling for The Flash from celebs like Tom Cruise claiming it'll open your third eye and the director saying you'll forget the lead is a literal criminal, Elemental is looking to open even lower than Lightyear, Transformers is looking to have a huge drop, Dial of Destiny's projected to have a weak opening, it's disaster after disaster.

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lilORANG
06/16/23 11:09:35 PM
#110:


dancing_cactuar posted...
These next few months are going to be real bad for a lotta movies. Flash is already projected to have a worse opening than Black Adam despite all the shilling for The Flash from celebs like Tom Cruise claiming it'll open your third eye and the director saying you'll forget the lead is a literal criminal, Elemental is looking to open even lower than Lightyear, Transformers is looking to have a huge drop, Dial of Destiny's projected to have a weak opening, it's disaster after disaster.
All those movies look bad tho. Make good stuff and people will see it. GOTG3 proves this.

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VFalcone
06/16/23 11:10:45 PM
#111:


Another 2hr 30min+ ass movie
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dancing_cactuar
06/16/23 11:16:07 PM
#112:


lilORANG posted...
All those movies look bad tho. Make good stuff and people will see it. GOTG3 proves this.
Never argued that they looked good, in fact they all look like utter garbage, just that they had a lot of money poured into them and nobody gives enough of a shit to show up. Meanwhile, Spiderverse is a 10/10 movie, saw it twice in theaters, and it's in the top 10 highest grossing of the year in less than 2 weeks making 4 times its budget. At this point, the only big blockbusters I see making a boatload of money in the next several months are Oppenheimer, whose presales are already outpacing Indy by a country mile, and Barbie. Helps that those two are half the budgets of three of the movies that I mentioned and a third of Dial of Destiny's.

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MedeaLysistrata
06/16/23 11:17:11 PM
#113:


I'm responsible for The Flash, that's why it sucks. I made the whole movie.

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Zikten
06/16/23 11:22:52 PM
#114:


MedeaLysistrata posted...
I'm responsible for The Flash, that's why it sucks. I made the whole movie.
It's okay I forgive you
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Blue_Popo
06/16/23 11:32:20 PM
#115:


mystic_belmont posted...
They could have recast Miller. Would it have cost them money? Sure, but they wouldn't have to spend money damage controlling.

I'm never going to pay to see this movie.

Cost way more, this is the main character who is in every scene, you have ro reshoot the movie
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CrimsonGear80
06/16/23 11:41:15 PM
#116:


VFalcone posted...
Another 2hr 30min+ ass movie

it's actually 2 hours 24 minutes

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mystic_belmont
06/16/23 11:42:28 PM
#117:


Blue_Popo posted...
Cost way more, this is the main character who is in every scene, you have ro reshoot the movie

They've been making the movie for how many years now?

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Zikten
06/16/23 11:44:58 PM
#118:


They could have remade the movie years ago before they put so much work into it. They were stubborn and refused to stop and restart. Yea later there was too much investment in it. But I think when Ezra first got in trouble, they could have restarted without too much trouble.
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Prismsblade
06/16/23 11:46:07 PM
#119:


Ratchetrockon posted...
How powerful is flash in this movie?? I read that he 1 shots a kryptonian.

wtf!!!! This news makes me wanna see this now for the feats
Him and the other flash waste the weaker ones like fodder. Fiora, and the other guy were alot tougher but they could beat them 2v1. Zod though was to powerful.

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Requiem
06/16/23 11:47:48 PM
#120:


Does the movie answer the age old question of "who is faster, sups or flash"?

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Zikten
06/16/23 11:56:19 PM
#121:


Requiem posted...
Does the movie answer the age old question of "who is faster, sups or flash"?
I haven't seen the movie but I am pretty sure in the comics, they say its Flash
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VFalcone
06/17/23 12:36:20 AM
#122:


CrimsonGear80 posted...
it's actually 2 hours 24 minutes
Gotta include the 11mins of credits bro
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burns112233
06/17/23 12:50:00 AM
#123:


Saw it tonight and it was pretty entertaining. Not an A+ but I'd give it a B.

The movie makes me want to watch the TV show again.

Michael Keaton nailed it.
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Revelation34
06/17/23 12:53:52 AM
#124:


masterpug53 posted...


You're absolutely right. But the point was that the vast majority of non-comic fans didn't know the character prior to Homecoming; and if he was a 1st-stringer in that sense, Vulture would've been the obvious choice as a villain for the first two Raimi movies over Green Goblin and Doc Ock.

I mean, you're not one of those people who actually think Iron Man and Thor were A-list superheroes to the general public prior to the MCU, right?



Anybody who read comics in the 90s knew who Thor and Iron Man were.

Blue_Popo posted...


I'll never understand this

Did you want a company to cancel a 200 million movie that has 1000s of people working on it because one of the people imvolved went on to do criminal shit AFTER the movie was made


Nah only Ezra Miller counts to them. They don't care about the crew.

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CrimsonGear80
06/17/23 12:59:26 AM
#125:


VFalcone posted...
Gotta include the 11mins of credits bro

I did...

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DnDer
06/17/23 1:12:21 AM
#126:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Birdman was a documentary lol

In some ways, it totally was, and that's part of what made it so brilliant.

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VFalcone
06/17/23 1:16:27 AM
#127:


CrimsonGear80 posted...
I did...
But Google says the movie is 2h 35m O.o
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Blue_Popo
06/17/23 1:24:56 AM
#128:


Flash is dead at box office. It got a B cinemascore. Cienmascore is polling of day1 audiences and has been a good predictor of movies legging out. Comic book movies essentially get graded on B to A+. B brings it to the levels of quantumania, eternals, batman vs superman
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CrimsonGear80
06/17/23 1:25:27 AM
#129:


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0439572/

google needs to update

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EyeWontBeFooled
06/17/23 2:13:51 AM
#130:


Zikten posted...
I haven't seen the movie but I am pretty sure in the comics, they say its Flash
Any answer other than Flash is wrong.

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BlackHorse6969
06/17/23 2:14:33 AM
#131:


thats better than little mermaid

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TetsuoS2
06/17/23 2:24:25 AM
#132:


dancing_cactuar posted...
Never argued that they looked good, in fact they all look like utter garbage, just that they had a lot of money poured into them and nobody gives enough of a shit to show up. Meanwhile, Spiderverse is a 10/10 movie, saw it twice in theaters, and it's in the top 10 highest grossing of the year in less than 2 weeks making 4 times its budget. At this point, the only big blockbusters I see making a boatload of money in the next several months are Oppenheimer, whose presales are already outpacing Indy by a country mile, and Barbie. Helps that those two are half the budgets of three of the movies that I mentioned and a third of Dial of Destiny's.

Mission Impossible as well I think.

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MrMallard
06/17/23 2:27:28 AM
#133:


Good, fuck Ezra Miller and fuck the moron who said that The Flash would be so good that "people would forget Ezra Miller's crimes".

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stage4saiyan
06/17/23 2:51:23 AM
#134:


How is the movie? Like, the movie itself.

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Glob
06/17/23 3:11:16 AM
#135:


Revelation34 posted...
Anybody who read comics in the 90s knew who Thor and Iron Man were.


Which is not the majority of the cinema-going audience.

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Kradek
06/17/23 5:46:51 AM
#136:


Requiem posted...
Maybe this is just a bad year for superhero movies

GOTG3 and Spiderverse came out this year. Bad year for DC Superheroes? Maybe.

VampireCoyote posted...
Who the heck wants to sit through an entire movie anymore

2 hours+ in a theater watching the same thing? Cant even pause to do a pee?

big no thank

Are you lauding having a short attention span that can't handle stories that take time to tell?

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Oh_Boy_
06/17/23 6:00:25 AM
#137:


WB didnt want to replace him or shelve the film lmao. Not only worse crimes than Majors, flat out worse actor in worse movies. Expected outcome.

I repeat, worse than Majors and also nowhere near as liked/good of an a tor to begin with, even the fanboys didnt like Miller much as the Flash.
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B18Champ
06/17/23 6:01:44 AM
#138:


stage4saiyan posted...
How is the movie? Like, the movie itself.

Not very good. I give it like a 5/10. If you love Keaton, then maybe bump up to 6/10 but even he was kind of wasted.

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Revelation34
06/17/23 6:01:50 AM
#139:


Oh_Boy_ posted...
WB didnt want to replace him or shelve the film lmao. Not only worse crimes than Majors, flat out worse actor in worse movies. Expected outcome.


It was revealed Majors never even did what he was accused of so Miller is far worse.

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Kradek
06/17/23 6:10:39 AM
#140:


Oh_Boy_ posted...
even the fanboys didnt like Miller much as the Flash.

So I've been wondering, how come they don't use the show Flash for the movies? I've got some friends who watch the show and they really enjoy it along with the actor. Was it because of concurrent taping making it impossible for them to do both? Maybe they specifically want to keep them separate or perhaps it's alternate universes? Or is it that unlike Marvel they don't care about character consistency and kind of just don't give a fuck about their fans? One of the things I really respect about the MCU is that they'll be all, "lol we don't give a fuck who you are, if we want you for 5 minutes during an end credits scene then that's what's gonna happen", whereas in comparison Dwayne Johnson will kill the entire Black Adam future because he felt insulted over a small cameo role in Shazam 2 (which Gal Godat, a much more important staple to the MCU, didn't have qualms with or she got over it).

Open question to anybody able to answer.

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SomeLikeItHoth
06/17/23 6:32:30 AM
#142:


Kradek posted...
So I've been wondering, how come they don't use the show Flash for the movies?
Zack Snyder doesn't like the Flash show.

And because Batman V Superman came out in 2016 so Ezra Miller was probably hired around the same time the Flash TV show came out.

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bulletproofvita
06/17/23 6:39:38 AM
#143:


First off, fuck Ezra Miller...secondly this movie is phenomenal. Absolutely loved it. Best DECU movie by far

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Kradek
06/17/23 6:44:42 AM
#144:


SomeLikeItHoth posted...
Zack Snyder doesn't like the Flash show.

And because Batman V Superman came out in 2016 so Ezra Miller was probably hired around the same time the Flash TV show came out.

Ah ok, well I guess that'll do it.

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Ivynn
06/17/23 6:53:35 AM
#145:


SomeLikeItHoth posted...
Zack Snyder doesn't like the Flash show.

Probably wasn't dark and edgy enough for him.

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Sheiky-Baby
06/17/23 7:00:34 AM
#146:


If you cut everything out, and just leave the Batman scenes in, the film would still generate about the same revenue so far.

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Tora_Sami
06/17/23 7:10:01 AM
#147:


Mearcstapa posted...
I will not be going to the theater to see Ezra Miller's The Flesh

Just waiting to save the typo, if it is one lmao

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MaxEffingBemis
06/17/23 9:52:31 AM
#148:


Kradek posted...
So I've been wondering, how come they don't use the show Flash for the movies? I've got some friends who watch the show and they really enjoy it along with the actor. Was it because of concurrent taping making it impossible for them to do both? Maybe they specifically want to keep them separate or perhaps it's alternate universes? Or is it that unlike Marvel they don't care about character consistency and kind of just don't give a fuck about their fans? One of the things I really respect about the MCU is that they'll be all, "lol we don't give a fuck who you are, if we want you for 5 minutes during an end credits scene then that's what's gonna happen", whereas in comparison Dwayne Johnson will kill the entire Black Adam future because he felt insulted over a small cameo role in Shazam 2 (which Gal Godat, a much more important staple to the MCU, didn't have qualms with or she got over it).

Open question to anybody able to answer.
Same thing with the Mario movie. Its a Hollywood movie so they wanted to cast Hollywood actors for it.

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Tyranthraxus
06/17/23 10:20:12 AM
#149:


MaxEffingBemis posted...
Same thing with the Mario movie. Its a Hollywood movie so they wanted to cast Hollywood actors for it.
It wasn't Hollywood at all. It was made in France by a French studio.

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MaxEffingBemis
06/17/23 10:42:49 AM
#150:


Tyranthraxus posted...
It wasn't Hollywood at all. It was made in France by a French studio.
Its still a Hollywood blockbuster

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Kitt
06/17/23 10:47:56 AM
#151:


MaxEffingBemis posted...
Its still a Hollywood blockbuster
It's a blockbuster worldwide.

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Smashingpmkns
06/17/23 11:55:58 AM
#152:


I would have said the TV Flash actor just isn't a movie actor and that's pretty much what it boiled down to but they got that Teddy Sears guy to appear in it so I'm not sure wtf they were thinking lol maybe it's a rates thing, or maybe it's because the Flash actor isn't really all that great of an actor to begin with.

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