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DKBananaSlamma
06/28/23 3:00:05 PM
#52:


ArtiRock posted...
It's still their assets. It's not censorship.
What if I took over the dev team of your favorite game and just added phat anime tiddies everywhere in an official patch. What would you call that? >_>

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Trelve
06/28/23 3:00:17 PM
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the_final_bahamut posted...
Because the devs grew as people and dont want their name attached to that no more.

I'm not happy to have my name attached to juvenile shit I did when I didn't know any better, especially not if I see that stuff as being part of a harmful culture
Skullgirls was a dead game anyway, if it bothered them that much then make a sequel and do whatever you like. Patching the game won't rewrite history. Removing content that people paid for (patching the digital art book is crazy) is never a good sign.
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HudGard
06/28/23 3:01:30 PM
#54:


Gamers are such an embarrassment

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AmericaTheBrave
06/28/23 3:01:44 PM
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Now the ripoff topic has more posts than the original. Screw you too CE.

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Sir_Specter
06/28/23 3:01:56 PM
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Oh are we supposed to pretend that Skullgirls isn't a softcore porn game after these changes? Because I really doubt they went back and edited out all the panty shots and big wobbling titties in the actual playable game portion of it. They'd need to do new animations for most of the cast.

Do they honestly think people will find their boobs and butt game "tasteful" now?
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Blue_Inigo
06/28/23 3:02:24 PM
#57:


pokedude900 posted...
Since no one's going to answer my question post number 25, here's another one. Why does this stuff need to be erased? Because it contains things that are objectionable IRL? It's a work of fiction, not reality. If we're not allowed to have fictional depictions of things that are wrong, then this entire game should just be erased. It's a fighting game. Fighting is bad. Guns are bad. Misuse of medical equipment is bad. Why do we glorify all this violence but draw the line at panties?
Skullgirls has been around for like a decade. How people feel about nazi imagery has changed A LOT since then. There's reasonable reasons for axing the armbands to not be so overt.

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pokedude900
06/28/23 3:03:07 PM
#58:


Sir_Specter posted...
Oh are we supposed to pretend that Skullgirls isn't a softcore porn game after these changes? Because I really doubt they went back and edited out all the panty shots and big wobbling titties in the actual playable game portion of it. They'd need to do new animations for most of the cast.

Nah, they just made Filia's panties black. Because apparently that's less sexual than white ones.

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ArtiRock
06/28/23 3:03:29 PM
#59:


DKBananaSlamma posted...
What if I took over the dev team of your favorite game and just added phat anime tiddies everywhere in an official patch. What would you call that? >_>
So things like disgaea 4? Still fine.

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DKBananaSlamma
06/28/23 3:04:17 PM
#60:


ArtiRock posted...
So things like disgaea 4? Still fine.
I definitely gotta see this lol. What happened with Disgaea 4?

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ArtiRock
06/28/23 3:05:07 PM
#61:


DKBananaSlamma posted...
I definitely gotta see this lol. What happened with Disgaea 4?
They changed sprites. And covered up some of the official artworks.

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the_final_bahamut
06/28/23 3:05:30 PM
#62:


pokedude900 posted...
Why does this stuff need to be erased?

Why does it need to be kept unchanging?

Because it contains things that are objectionable IRL? It's a work of fiction, not reality. If we're not allowed to have fictional depictions of things that are wrong, then this entire game should just be erased.

You still have porn. This porn is just something the devs didn't want to lend their names to no more.

Trelve posted...
Skullgirls was a dead game anyway,

If that's true, then no one should care they changed it.

if it bothered them that much then make a sequel and do whatever you like. Patching the game won't rewrite history.

No it won't, but it will change the future.


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pokedude900
06/28/23 3:05:56 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...

Skullgirls has been around for like a decade. How people feel about nazi imagery has changed A LOT since then. There's reasonable reasons for axing the armbands to not be so overt.

1. That doesn't answer my question. I was asking about the fanservice and violence.
2. IIRC, those characters are the bad guys. Are you suggesting it's wrong to depict nazis as villains?

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Questionmarktarius
06/28/23 3:06:05 PM
#64:


Beveren_Rabbit posted...
it's honestly a necessity if the developers want to keep a job in the gaming industry. Fanservice is becoming less popular with each new generation of gaming.


Questionmarktarius posted...
Meanwhile, at Compile Heart...

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Beveren_Rabbit
06/28/23 3:06:20 PM
#65:


Metal Slug remakes should look less Nazi related.

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Beveren_Rabbit
06/28/23 3:07:42 PM
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as a western developer you got to be careful putting fanservice in your games. Japanese culture is different so they can get away with fanservice, but not much anymore. Japanese games with fanservice have been getting bad reviews since PS3 era.

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DKBananaSlamma
06/28/23 3:09:01 PM
#67:


Beveren_Rabbit posted...
Japanese culture is different so they can get away with fanservice
Hellz yeah

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/1/2/AAfOu0AAEnEk.jpg

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Questionmarktarius
06/28/23 3:10:31 PM
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Beveren_Rabbit posted...
Japanese games with fanservice have been getting bad reviews since PS3 era.
It's a great irony that Sony is the prudes now, while Nintendo gets the tiddy-waifu games.
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ai123
06/28/23 3:12:19 PM
#69:


If you like what they do it's 'creative freedom', or 'giving the fans what they want'.

If you don't like what they do it's 'pandering' of one sort or another.

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cjsdowg
06/28/23 3:12:27 PM
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Someone else posted about this, so I guess I would repeat what I said there.

  1. The changes with Bigband bothers me if they are going to water down racism .
  2. Do touch my shit after I have paid for it. Like I am not yelling censership or anything like that. But down change thing people paid for 10 years later.

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blackrider76
06/28/23 3:12:50 PM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
Thats not what rewriting history means.

This villain was envisioned as a Nazi stand-in vs ha ha ha, what Nazis? we never had anything resembling Nazis in this game sounds like a revisionist take to me.

pauIie posted...
lol the original version will exist on the internet forever. go download it.

Nintendo gets shit all the time for artificially limiting Mario 3D All Stars stock or handing out copyright claims like candy. Just pirate it doesnt excuse them anymore than it would Skullgirls devs.

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IceCreamOnStero
06/28/23 3:18:15 PM
#72:


If games are to be respected in the mainstream as an artform, we seriously need to get over this meme of screeching about how devs are the anti-christ for stopping you from tilting the camera to see panty shots.

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Beveren_Rabbit
06/28/23 3:18:30 PM
#73:


Solar_Crimson posted...
Is it considered "censorship" if it's the creator themselves altering their own work of their own will?


it's not the creator doing it though. it's the new development team.

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PowerOats
06/28/23 3:21:25 PM
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I remember when Xeno 3 fans got mad when some concept art of characters had bigger boobs, and they thought it was censorship
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Sheiky-Baby
06/28/23 3:21:43 PM
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Is it 2013? I'm surprised it's still relevant enough to be censored.

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Ivynn
06/28/23 3:22:09 PM
#76:


I heard the running theory is that they're trying to get the game into tournaments and stuff so censoring it preemptively to please sponsors. But Skullgirls is hella old now so how likely is that lol. Just make a sequel instead.

Beveren_Rabbit posted...
as a western developer you got to be careful putting fanservice in your games. Japanese culture is different so they can get away with fanservice, but not much anymore. Japanese games with fanservice have been getting bad reviews since PS3 era.

I dislike that western devs are so anti-fanservice these days. Fear of sex isn't really a sign of "growing up", it's just new prudery.

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Trelve
06/28/23 3:25:27 PM
#77:


the_final_bahamut posted...
If that's true, then no one should care they changed it.
I can turn that back on you and say that no one should care of they left it alone.

Blue_Inigo posted...
Skullgirls has been around for like a decade. How people feel about nazi imagery has changed A LOT since then. There's reasonable reasons for axing the armbands to not be so overt.
This is stupid. What's next? Removing the Nazis from Wolfenstein? It's okay to say that Nazis are evil you know.
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firedoom666
06/28/23 3:25:29 PM
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God the internet is so full of losers who will complain about anything.

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Wandering__Hero
06/28/23 3:28:31 PM
#79:


Sir_Specter posted...
Oh are we supposed to pretend that Skullgirls isn't a softcore porn game after these changes? Because I really doubt they went back and edited out all the panty shots and big wobbling titties in the actual playable game portion of it. They'd need to do new animations for most of the cast.

Do they honestly think people will find their boobs and butt game "tasteful" now?

These changes were made to pander to and appeal to people who never liked the game and weren't playing it. There's a fair chance they won't notice until some games journalist has another slow news day

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pauIie
06/28/23 3:29:24 PM
#80:


Sir_Specter posted...
Oh are we supposed to pretend that Skullgirls isn't a softcore porn game after these changes? Because I really doubt they went back and edited out all the panty shots and big wobbling titties in the actual playable game portion of it. They'd need to do new animations for most of the cast.

Do they honestly think people will find their boobs and butt game "tasteful" now?
perfect is the enemy of the good

skullgirls: *makes some art better*

frothing nerds: WELL DID YOU CHANGE THE REST OF THE GAME?

lol

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Blue_Inigo
06/28/23 3:29:38 PM
#81:


Trelve posted...
I can turn that back on you and say that no one should care of they left it alone.

This is stupid. What's next? Removing the Nazis from Wolfenstein? It's okay to say that Nazis are evil you know.
I mean Wolfenstein doesn't let you play as the Nazis and have a badass nazi main character. Pretty different games and pretty different uses

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ArtiRock
06/28/23 3:30:25 PM
#82:


Wandering__Hero posted...
These changes were made to pander to and appeal to people who never liked the game and weren't playing it. There's a fair chance they won't notice until some games journalist has another slow news day
If the prior things are what made people play it, I'd say they have more problems than the people that don't care and never liked the game and wouldn't play it.

It wouldn't be the first media in history to change reprints of books have had changed and altered dialogue and you don't people getting their panties twisted more than video game players.

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DKBananaSlamma
06/28/23 3:32:32 PM
#83:


firedoom666 posted...
God the internet is so full of losers who will complain about anything.
Right? Imagine being so appalled by boobs and ass that they put resources to go back to a 10 year artbook and just rip them out. It's crazy.

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pokedude900
06/28/23 3:33:41 PM
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And my questions continue to go unanswered while the people who defend censorship have no argument beyond ad hominem.

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VRX3000
06/28/23 3:34:21 PM
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Soall 12 people who play Skullgirls can get upset

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IMNOTRAGED
06/28/23 3:36:21 PM
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IceCreamOnStero posted...
If games are to be respected in the mainstream as an artform, we seriously need to get over this meme of screeching about how devs are the anti-christ for stopping you from tilting the camera to see panty shots.

Are we gonna pretend like movies, music, art, etc haven't had "pointless" sexual stuff in them from their invention. Not everything needs to be sanitized to fit mainstream sensibilities, vulgarity is the spice of life.

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Sir_Specter
06/28/23 3:37:39 PM
#88:


pauIie posted...
perfect is the enemy of the good

skullgirls: *makes some art better*

frothing nerds: WELL DID YOU CHANGE THE REST OF THE GAME?

lol
I don't even like Skullgirls. I've always thought it was cringe.

I've never even seen the concept art in question, but I have seen the actual gameplay plenty of times and I know it's overflowing with T&A, so it just seems pointless to try and make the concept art that not everyone's even gonna look at "more tasteful" when the grappler character is still gonna turn completely upside down to show off her crotch every time she does a command grab.

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Ivynn
06/28/23 3:38:33 PM
#89:


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It is kinda dumb to let censorship happen just to "lol @ losers who care." Like, that's what allows it to get normalized enough that it can happen to something you do care about. >_>

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VRX3000
06/28/23 3:39:01 PM
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And how many pointless sex stuff in those art forms arent laughed at?

theres a reason why your random pornhub movie doesnt win an Oscar. They generally suck at being movies, no pun intended.

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DKBananaSlamma
06/28/23 3:39:43 PM
#91:


VRX3000 posted...
And how many pointless sex stuff in those art forms arent laughed at?

theres a reason why your random pornhub movie doesnt win an Oscar. They generally suck at being movies, no pun intended.
Hey now, Pirates was a legit movie that also had porn in it.

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Ivynn
06/28/23 3:41:00 PM
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Your face is a funny post!

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DKBananaSlamma
06/28/23 3:41:30 PM
#94:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Look man I'll tell ya straight up, none of use care, we're just laughing at how people are scared of seeing cartoon panties

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pauIie
06/28/23 3:41:33 PM
#95:


IceCreamOnStero posted...
If games are to be respected in the mainstream as an artform, we seriously need to get over this meme of screeching about how devs are the anti-christ for stopping you from tilting the camera to see panty shots.
i agree capital g gamers need to grow up, but i wouldn't revoke video game's membership from the art club because of panty shots

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/2/6/AAAlLfAAEnEy.jpg

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s0nicfan
06/28/23 3:42:08 PM
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IIRC the release notes said something about the changes being in anticipation of an international version of the game being released. So most of these changes probably have nothing to do with the developers relative level of prudishness and everything to do with restrictions that exist in other markets. For example, you can't sell games in Germany with Nazi imagery, so it would make sense to strip those elements out if you're planning an EU release of the game.

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Axiom
06/28/23 3:42:33 PM
#97:


Ivynn posted...
It is kinda dumb to let censorship happen just to "lol @ losers who care." Like, that's what allows it to get normalized enough that it can happen to something you do care about. >_>
I will never care about a video game character putting on a skirt or having more cloth on their v-line
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DKBananaSlamma
06/28/23 3:44:44 PM
#98:


s0nicfan posted...
IIRC the release notes said something about the changes being in anticipation of an international version of the game being released. So most of these changes probably have nothing to do with the developers relative level of prudishness and everything to do with restrictions that exist in other markets. For example, you can't sell games in Germany with Nazi imagery, so it would make sense to strip those elements out if you're planning an EU release of the game.
Then just change it only for that version and let people be smart and use NordVPN to look at the better version with the titties. Sign up today and use offercode FREETHENIPPLE to get 2 months free and 67% off a 2-year plan!

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IceCreamOnStero
06/28/23 3:46:12 PM
#99:


IMNOTRAGED posted...
Are we gonna pretend like movies, music, art, etc haven't had "pointless" sexual stuff in them from their invention. Not everything needs to be sanitized to fit mainstream sensibilities, vulgarity is the spice of life.
Its not about "pointless sexual stuff" its about respecting designers' crestive freedom. If a director didn't like some parts of a movie they made and released a re-cut, people would have no problems with it. Worst that's happen are some heated online arguments about which version is better. If a game dev does that it'd throw up a storm of dudes crying about censorship and/or crying about how the devs are pandering to "the wokes".

It shows the difference in how the mediums are perceived. Movies are seen as an artform, where you enjoy the creator's vision. Games are seen as a product, they're framed around "accessibility" and trying to get the most amount of sales from the common denominator, and its all about making sure the game appeals to me me me.

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Mad-Dogg
06/28/23 3:46:13 PM
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For me this is one of those things where like some peeps is making fun of the other peeps upset about this, but then what if this kind of thing started happening to ultra violent games that is most popular in north america. Somewhere down the line a culture shift happens and violence is no longer looked upon fondly, and random mortal kombat games are then patched to be toned down years all after the fact. Red dead redemption 2 has all of it's gore taken out since its no longer ok to glorify violence in like, 2030 or whatever.

Like, I paid for my red dead redemption 2 day one for full price on the PS4 and I admit I enjoy my juicy head shots and de-limbing dynamite explosions and shotgun blasts. If they were to just take all that out without my choice then its like......bruh, what the hell man?

Just another one of those things that even if it doesn't effect me personally "I get it" basically.

How about this though, if this change is mainly for not wanting to give certain vibes in a evo-like tournament setting then how about a toggle to enabled this stuff? Cut the toned down option on when its tournament time, and have a off switch for......me time, lol. Everyone should be happy with a choice right?

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Hornezz
06/28/23 3:46:42 PM
#101:


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