Current Events > What do you think of The Critical Drinker and Eric July?

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Alt-right grifters who make low-quality content and clearly don't know what they're talking about.

Would love to hear reasons as to why you do or don't like them.

Alt-right grifters who make low-quality content and clearly don't know what they're talking about.

Have you looked at the channel, it's one dimension caustic critic outrage bait.

What makes them grifters?

They're both pretty shit. Anything that lives off of "anti-SJW" talking points is pretty garbage in 2023.

July is also working on the whole Rippa-verse thing, which while it is technically actually happening, comes off really shady for literally anyone trying to pay attention to it.

Would love to hear reasons as to why you do or don't like them.

https://youtu.be/chwbM2quspk

His video "Defeminizing female characters" is an example of his true colors. In this, he condemns Scarlett Johansson for wanting a movie focused on a human story for Black Widow instead of focusing on her body. He calls it "biting the hand that feeds her." That is, Drinker considers her ungrateful and unappreciative by hoping for a role where she can be more than a sex object. He asserts that she only got any roles because "she was beautiful." Which is crazy to say, because her early big theatric credits were playing an 11 year old girl, and then a teenager in The Horse Whisperer, and then receiving critical acclaim for her acting in Lost in Translation. Two dings against Drinker here: he doesn't do his research, and he makes misogynistic assumptions about women's careers.

In the same video, he argues that a character-driven Black Widow story would make no sense because "isn't the whole point of the Black Widow character to be a classic Femme Fatale?" He can't imagine that interrogating a long running female archetype of male-focused action movies might be worthwhile or lead to an interesting story.

He also argues BW is already a good character because her sexualization is part of the narrative as what she uses to disarm men: "she uses her sexiness to disarm men and gain a tactical advantage over them." This reveals the shallowness of Drinker's analysis: he can't separate plot functionality from characterization. Of course BW's presence causes things to happen in the plot. Does that mean you can actually say much of anything about who BW is as a person in Iron Man 2? Not at all. This is like arguing that a damsel in distress is a well written character because she serves the plot function of motivating a man to save her. Rather, it's her service to the plot that completes her objectification. Black Widow isn't written as a human character in IM2, she's a tool used by a man, Nick Fury, to assess Tony Stark.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/6/4/AAcZIZAAEnQU.jpg
In response to this quote, he says: "Jesus! This girl rambles worse than me after a pint of absinthe!" There's nothing rambling about this quote so I'm forced to conclude that, when women ask not to be treated only like sex objects, CriticalDrinker chooses to just hear bleats and baas instead.

According to Drinker, this whole video was sparked by him reading this one interview excerpt of Scarlett Johansson reflecting on her minor role in a movie she herself describes as "really fun". He's mad at an actress telling her feelings about her own depiction. To him, it's as though because she was paid, she sold the right to have an opinion about her own works, and is now out of line to talk about wanting anything else in her career. Jeez.

Tl;Dr Critical Drinker is a misogynist. And a bad critic. Maybe he should sober up!

So you don't have any examples of him saying something that doesn't make sense or isn't an understandable sentiment?

https://youtu.be/chwbM2quspk

His video "Defeminizing female characters" is an example of his true colors. In this, he condemns Scarlett Johansson for wanting a movie focused on a human story for Black Widow instead of focusing on her body. He calls it "biting the hand that feeds her." That is, Drinker considers her ungrateful and unappreciative by hoping for a role where she can be more than a sex object. He asserts that she only got any roles because "she was beautiful." Which is crazy to say, because her early big theatric credits were playing an 11 year old girl, and then a teenager in The Horse Whisperer, and then receiving critical acclaim for her acting in Lost in Translation. Two dings against Drinker here: he doesn't do his research, and he makes misogynistic assumptions about women's careers.

In the same video, he argues that a character-driven Black Widow story would make no sense because "isn't the whole point of the Black Widow character to be a classic Femme Fatale?" He can't imagine that interrogating a long running female archetype of male-focused action movies might be worthwhile or lead to an interesting story.

He also argues BW is already a good character because her sexualization is part of the narrative as what she uses to disarm men: "she uses her sexiness to disarm men and gain a tactical advantage over them." This reveals the shallowness of Drinker's analysis: he can't separate plot functionality from characterization. Of course BW's presence causes things to happen in the plot. Does that mean you can actually say much of anything about who BW is as a person in Iron Man 2? Not at all. This is like arguing that a damsel in distress is a well written character because she serves the plot function of motivating a man to save her. Rather, it's her service to the plot that completes her objectification. Black Widow isn't written as a human character in IM2, she's a tool used by a man, Nick Fury, to assess Tony Stark.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/6/4/AAcZIZAAEnQU.jpg
In response to this quote, he says: "Jesus! This girl rambles worse than me after a pint of absinthe!" There's nothing rambling about this quote so I'm forced to conclude that, when women ask not to be treated only like sex objects, CriticalDrinker chooses to just hear bleats and baas instead.

According to Drinker, this whole video was sparked by him reading this one interview excerpt of Scarlett Johansson reflecting on her minor role in a movie she herself describes as "really fun". He's mad at an actress telling her feelings about her own depiction. To him, it's as though because she was paid, she sold the right to have an opinion about her own works, and is now out of line to talk about wanting anything else in her career. Jeez.

Tl;Dr Critical Drinker is a misogynist. And a bad critic. Maybe he should sober up!

Do you think theres a possibility that people have heard them say things they dont like, enough to form an opinion, but at the time they didnt realize they would need to produce quotes and citations in a future discussion, so they didnt make a note of an exact quote or time stamp to produce later?

I think they both rock.

I don't see anything wrong with his main message.

Critical Drinker sucks, for the many reasons previously mentioned.

Never heard of the other guy, but:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/6/8/AAVdKdAAEnQY.jpg
He sounds like a real piece of shit to me

Good to know that I should never listen to anything you say.

I don't see anything wrong with his main message.

I don't see anything wrong with his main message. He points out that Black Widow, like all superheroes, are fantastical characters whose physical attractiveness adds to their appeal. He thinks SJ's assessment of the character is somewhat unfair and convenient. He thinks women generally offer different strengths that should be played up, instead of just making women more masculine.

TCD is awful and every review he does about a movie with a main female character devolves into shit about everything being woke.

I mean, if the shoe fits. I don't see him complaining about Ellen Ripley or Sarah Conner.

I mean, if the shoe fits. I don't see him complaining about Ellen Ripley or Sarah Conner.

And the problem with his entire point is the implication that being feminine means being sexually appealing (to him)

His direct quote is, "What is appealing is grace, elegance, agility, and sensuality" as far as traditional action women go. And when speaking on physical attractiveness, he mentions that both women AND men are designed/chosen to appeal to the audience's carnal delights.

I just watched the video.

I don't see anything wrong with his main message. He points out that Black Widow, like all superheroes, are fantastical characters whose physical attractiveness adds to their appeal. He thinks SJ's assessment of the character is somewhat unfair and convenient. He thinks women generally offer different strengths that should be played up, instead of just making women more masculine.

I think that's all agreeable stuff. I do agree that his assessment of SJ's acting history was pretty inexcusably ignorant, though, and him claiming she rambled in her quote was forced.

Define "fits" in this context, please

That literally fucking means he wants female characters to be written as sex objects