Board 8 > Gamefaqs mafia mafia Topic 7: more Choas than Tony

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Alive:

Crescent

Lea

Red

The Ghost of some weirdo

Wallz

This day hasn't been up for 12 hours and we managed to fill an entire topic.

Lopen was just a very odd shot in general. He wasn't even on the Kirby lynch.

I saw a post where he said "therefore we should lynch Kirby"... Yet he wasn't voting Kirby.

Feels like I'm just getting reasons why Lopen shouldn't have been shot

Thought both were scum

Was on the person he considered less likely to be scum

Like that seems like someone scum would want to keep alive... And he was shot over Doctor and Cop. Corrik of all people was RBed.

Like what the hell were these night 1 scum actions

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Citation required

For the record I haven't taken Lopen off of ignore, so the only posts of his I know of are posts quotes by other people. Not that I really went back into day 1 much. I really only used topic 2 when I built up my initial reads. I have a habit of overlooking day 1s in general by the time day 3 rolls around.

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No need to ask. "All the cards are on the table".

Speaking of reads lists I remember a time where my POE was specifically only Corrik and Red and I basically just tossed IGCD'S name in as a backup because I didn't think anyone else was scum at all.

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I skimmed it. The thing is, if there's anyone I trust to bus everything that moves day 1, it's you.

I mean I know Lopen said he preferred Kirby but lynched Death because he has this long breakdown post that someone else quoted.

Ok movie time

Crescent, before you hammer make red answer for showing up but not doing anything about sbell. He was at work but he had time to post and just kicked the can down the road saying oh I would have to check yada yada

Claims he would never bus scummate sbell and
his page 1 vote on sbell is the feather in his cap, but when I asked him why it wasnt obvious to him that sbell was panicking with all the votes on him he was like look it all makes sense if you realize Lea is scum

Dont hammer without pressing red on this. Or at least dont hammer Lea without doing so

wallmasterz posted...

Crescent, before you hammer make red answer for showing up but not doing anything about sbell. He was at work but he had time to post and just kicked the can down the road saying oh I would have to check yada yada

I've asked this at least 3 times and never really gotten much of a response. He just says he was working. No one outside of Red and Corrik looked worse regarding SBell on day 2.

The obvious thing I find lacking about Red is saying he could be "persuaded" to lynch SBell, yet he never engaged in the conversation. He didn't ask a single follow up to anyone.

And now, pizza.

Let me get straight to the most important question, crescent - what did you think of the movie? Ive heard its kinda mediocre but not downright terrible

Second most important question - what toppings are on your pizza?

Anyway, Im gonna skim some stuff right now and see if anything jumps out at me.

Kirby, 1.349: Guess I might as well drop my reads while the day stagnates.

I voted SBell as a joke and fully intended to unvote him as soon as he got close to being hammered. I didn't really see the arguments against him. If anything, Peaf seemed extremely aggressive and defensive. Then again, everyone just seemed really pissed off at each other from what I read during my catch-up.

Lean town on Wallz. I've observed him over the past couple of games, and he seems like he's in his town persona. Everyone else I don't have much of a read on, least of all Death. Though if Death is town, Ulti most certainly has to be.

*Lopen correctly calls out that Kirbys vote on sbell was bullshit in the next post*

2.305, Red: This post makes me feel like there is probably exactly 1 scum between Peaf and Wallz barring triple scum gambit. But I don't buy triple scum gambit without a counterprotection claim over death. So I'm discounting that for now. Ulti and death feel tacked on for content. Too much effort on wallz and peaf in comparison. Would be shocked if both are town. Don't think much of him including sbell, though it pushes slightly in the town direction but nothing concrete in my brain.

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Was Lopen being killed n1 supposed to help set up a peaf mislynch? They argued all day and Lopen thought Peaf was scum. Red floated peaf on day 2 and didnt have the most compelling reasons.

Also, reflecting back on Kirbys post and saying he doesnt think much of Kirby including sbell, but it pushes slightly in the town direction but nothing concrete in my brain looks pretty damn atrocious to me.

That should say Lopen correctly called out that Kirby saying his vote was a joke was bullshit, and he also said both were safely scum.

wallmasterz posted...

Kirby, 1.349: Guess I might as well drop my reads while the day stagnates.

I voted SBell as a joke and fully intended to unvote him as soon as he got close to being hammered. I didn't really see the arguments against him. If anything, Peaf seemed extremely aggressive and defensive. Then again, everyone just seemed really pissed off at each other from what I read during my catch-up.

Lean town on Wallz. I've observed him over the past couple of games, and he seems like he's in his town persona. Everyone else I don't have much of a read on, least of all Death. Though if Death is town, Ulti most certainly has to be.

*Lopen correctly calls out that Kirbys vote on sbell was bullshit in the next post*

2.305, Red: This post makes me feel like there is probably exactly 1 scum between Peaf and Wallz barring triple scum gambit. But I don't buy triple scum gambit without a counterprotection claim over death. So I'm discounting that for now. Ulti and death feel tacked on for content. Too much effort on wallz and peaf in comparison. Would be shocked if both are town. Don't think much of him including sbell, though it pushes slightly in the town direction but nothing concrete in my brain.

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Was Lopen being killed n1 supposed to help set up a peaf mislynch? They argued all day and Lopen thought Peaf was scum. Red floated peaf on day 2 and didnt have the most compelling reasons.

Also, reflecting back on Kirbys post and saying he doesnt think much of Kirby including sbell, but it pushes slightly in the town direction but nothing concrete in my brain looks pretty damn atrocious to me.

Peaf spent a lot of day 2 tunneling on Red. Did Red tunnel on Peaf, though?

I think this is the extent of what red said about peaf on day 2

2.092 - If town peaf continues to show he has 0 ability in the slightest to read red.

2.277 (Red on who hed lynch) - Peaf. But most of this is just clouded thoughts by his insistence on taking over for Lea in the "incessantly trying to lynch red every game" for increasingly nonsense reasons.

2.305 (Red having noncommittal reads) - This post makes me feel like there is probably exactly 1 scum between Peaf and Wallz barring triple scum gambit. But I don't buy triple scum gambit without a counterprotection claim over death. So I'm discounting that for now. Ulti and death feel tacked on for content. Too much effort on wallz and peaf in comparison. Would be shocked if both are town. Don't think much of him including sbell, though it pushes slightly in the town direction but nothing concrete in my brain.

2.395 - Honestly peaf it gets a bit exhausting when the same person tunnels you relentlessly game to game. I definitely just kind of skim through your posts and yawn at this point.

Strikes me as red just trying to discredit peafs arguments. He made it far into this game without really putting forth any x is scum and heres my thought out reason posts, possibly hasnt made any at all. But he already responded to an inquiry on his lack of scum hunting by saying he takes more of a town clearing approach (I havent played with red enough to know how true that is)

His scum hunting resume according to red is piling on the roleblocker and saying his claim looked like trash (although not trash enough to vote sbell apparently lulz)

I have an important question for Lea when she gets back

I should've requested this last night but my brain wasn't working well enough by the time I pushed the point.

You had a long, pretyped message that was obviously personalized to Red ready to go when the day came up trying to preempt everything and case me as scum.

Surely that should mean you also had a message typed up for Isquen? I would like to see it.

Reminder, Wall died saying he preferred you (I was questioning him on this when he was lynched.) It was only overnight that Wall changed.

wallmasterz posted...

Crescent, before you hammer make red answer for showing up but not doing anything about sbell. He was at work but he had time to post and just kicked the can down the road saying oh I would have to check yada yada

I'm pretty sure i answered this before falling asleep. I was at work and trying to be sneaky pulling out my phone. I wasn't "here" like you keep trying to say i was.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Thought both were scum

Was on the person he considered less likely to be scum

Like that seems like someone scum would want to keep alive... And he was shot over Doctor and Cop. Corrik of all people was RBed.

Like what the hell were these night 1 scum actions

The weird n1 actions were a big reason i thought corrik was scum btw. He was so fearful of town power he was suggesting dumb shit in smash so i figured it was his doing.

Leafeon13N posted...

I'm pretty sure i answered this before falling asleep. I was at work and trying to be sneaky pulling out my phone. I wasn't "here" like you keep trying to say i was.

Red I get that you said you were at work and apparently you felt it was a bit too, uh, dicey, to do the proper formatting to vote.

But you told Corrik you called sbells claim trash. Do you really think you can honestly say that? Your response was: 3.249 - I dont like it at a glance would need to see how sbell responded to death comments today and lopen yesterday.

Regardless of if youre at work or disneyland I dont see you calling sbells claim trash. You say you dont like it at a glance and would need to see how sbell responded to death d2 and Lopen d1. That doesnt sound like an aggressive response where you say burn it or hammer or anything you couldve said at work in fewer characters. You sounded like you were leaning towards it being scum, but not calling it trash by any means.

Wallz continued willful ignorance is frustrsting but not surprising at this point.

Also wallz I've mentioned this before, advice for the future. Post by post narrative spinning is a big waste of time. You could pre think any user is scum, go post by post, and spin the same dumb narrative. That is a fuck ton of time invested for something that hasn't been "scum hunting" for a long time.

wallmasterz posted...

Red I get that you said you were at work and apparently you felt it was a bit too, uh, dicey, to do the proper formatting to vote.

But you told Corrik you called sbells claim trash. Do you really think you can honestly say that? Your response was: 3.249 - I dont like it at a glance would need to see how sbell responded to death comments today and lopen yesterday.

Considering i was at work, barely able to read and partially follow the topic. Yeah, i stand by my statement.

If you wanted to call it trash you couldve just typed trash, ya know. You gave a soft, conditional response

Being at work isnt what made you say youd need to go back and look at sbells interactions

wallmasterz posted...

But you told Corrik you called sbells claim trash. Do you really think you can honestly say that? Your response was: 3.249 - I dont like it at a glance would need to see how sbell responded to death comments today and lopen yesterday.

Like, what do you think my scumplay is here? Because if you look at how sbell actually responded to death or lopen its damning as fuck. This wasn't some "go look at how sbell posted itll save him thing". It was a quick honest assessment of the claim at a glance.

wallmasterz posted...

Being at work isnt what made you say youd need to go back and look at sbells interactions

To get a full grasp of the claims value, were i able to do it at the time. Yes i would look at those interactions.

How dare i say, in response to i believe ulti asking me if i remember correctly, how i would evaluate a claim.

Totally scum red giving town a path that would make sbells claim look even worse how awful.

Remember the narrative spinning comment wallz?

I hope you do. I will be reminding you of this at postgame too.

You are so fucking hungry fir ne you've barely even glanced at what i feel is the best argument laid out today. That Lea has a role that is nowhere close to fitting with the rest of the setup. You are just more "rar look at this red narrative i spin".

You've been playing today like mafia is a full time job but not putting in any actual work. Narrative spinning is -not- productive.