Board 8 > First Independence Day in my new neighborhood

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Like half the block is doing fireworks. My poor dog is freaking out. Never seen so many people in front of their houses, most of which have at least $1000 worth of fireworks.

I bought my dog some hemp seed treats for today, but it's so loud and obnoxious that they aren't helping at all.

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Yeah fireworks suck. Just buy your dog a nice new toy and give them a lot of attention.

A nice tight squeeze will help a lot too.

None of my animals ever bat an eye at fireworks.

The good news is it's just noise and your dog will be perfectly okay

v_charon posted...

None of my animals ever bat an eye at fireworks.

_Blur_ posted...

The good news is it's just noise and your dog will be perfectly okay

just want to highlight these helpful responses as my neighbors are still shooting fireworks four days later, sending my dog into a frenzy as I try to calm her down before she wakes up my son

Has your dog never heard thunder before

foolm0r0n posted...

Has your dog never heard thunder before

shockingly not a fan of thunder either

(pun intended)

The only thing more annoying than fireworks are people who sarcastically brush aside people's issues with fireworks.

Honestly, fireworks are a lot better than dogs if both of them can't coexist.

foolm0r0n posted...

Has your dog never heard thunder before

absolutely infuriating post

I'm sure it's infuriating to know that even if no one ever shot a firework near you again, you and your dog will still be tortured by common weather occurrences, and there's no one you can complain about then

this is hard to believe but weather can't be inconsiderate and yet people can

That's just God being inconsiderate

you mean thor

foolm0r0n posted...

I'm sure it's infuriating to know that even if no one ever shot a firework near you again, you and your dog will still be tortured by common weather occurrences, and there's no one you can complain about then

fireworks usually sounding pretty different than thunder is the main issue with your initial "has your dog never heard thunder before" comment

Imagine equating thunder to fireworks without considering any of the extremely obvious differences.

azuarc posted...

Imagine equating thunder to fireworks without considering any of the extremely obvious differences.

and now imagine thinking you're doing some clever trolling in the process and you have your average foolmo post

LeonhartFour posted...

this is hard to believe but weather can't be inconsiderate and yet people can

The act of using fireworks isn't inconsiderate by default. It isn't up to people's neighbors to not perform a legal act on their own property for the benefit of someone else's animals. Though it might seem stupid to some, fireworks can bring a lot of joy to adults and children alike.

Fireworks well after a holiday are irritating, sure. Definitely agree with that sentiment.

"sometimes people trip and fall on their face, so getting punched is fine!"

v_charon posted...

The act of using fireworks isn't inconsiderate by default.

I don't expect people using fireworks in a residential area to be taking other people's pets into consideration so it's inconsiderate by definition

I mean I get it, fireworks are fun and I don't expect everyone to completely abstain from using them at least on the holiday itself

There are alternatives under the fireworks umbrella that provide a visual spectacle and generate low or no noise.

azuarc posted...

Imagine equating thunder to fireworks without considering any of the extremely obvious differences.

He agreed on the equivalence.

But it does seem like the key issue here is other people being inconsiderate, not that the dog and family are being traumatized. I really can't empathize with that at all, but it does explain why dog people only care about this particular loud noise.

LeonhartFour posted...

just want to highlight these helpful responses as my neighbors are still shooting fireworks four days later, sending my dog into a frenzy as I try to calm her down before she wakes up my son

Yeah that was dickish but I really sincerely just don't get it. My dog hides under the bed from both thunder and fireworks (well really loud ones only) but... she's perfectly safe? There's no threat here. She just doesn't know any better.

Just seems like people want shit to complain about and pretend they're empathizing with their pets while doing it. Now if it's going for a week plus I totally get it. 3 or 4 days of loudness is enough.

The real solution here is every town needs it's own massive fireworks display and no one buy their own.

_Blur_ posted...

Just seems like people want shit to complain about and pretend they're empathizing with their pets while doing it.

I wouldn't give a shit if it didn't bother my pets so no clue where you are coming off with this.

There's a lot of dove hunting around my folks' place so growing up our dogs would completely lose their shit at the gunshots, every night, for months at a time.

sometimes animals are just anxious morons. get your shit together, dogs.

KCF0107 posted...

There are alternatives under the fireworks umbrella that provide a visual spectacle and generate low or no noise.

I mean, that's the case with a lot of different things. I'm personally annoyed by all sorts of things other people do in public or on their property, and I could suggest alternatives they may like that wouldn't annoy me as much, but I don't feel that's the right thing to do. Provided they are following local laws and aren't breaking any ordinances, I can be annoyed without believing their rights should be revoked.

_Blur_ posted...

The real solution here is every town needs it's own massive fireworks display and no one buy their own.

Yeah, hard pass. Unless everyone could see it from their own homes, which seems impossible, it isn't quite the same. I definitely would not want to attend some massive gathering of people just to watch fireworks go off unless I was there for some other purpose before that. There's a certain sort of enjoyment provided by having your own show at home. I haven't done my own fireworks since I was in my teens, but those are some great memories with just me and a small group of friends and family.

foolm0r0n posted...

He agreed on the equivalence.

He who? Leon made a counterpoint without agreeing to anything. colliding actively disagreed.

The only thing fireworks and thunder have in common is that they're loud noises that can occur "unexpectedly." But they're so vastly different in the quality of the noise, the source, the frequency, and so many other things that there is no equivalence here.

I had some neighbors who were just setting off fireworks for 45 minutes straight tonight. It might still be the holiday weekend, but they were still going at 11 pm and my roommate had been in bed for a while. So no dog complaints here, though I have certainly owned cats in the past who did not respond well to fireworks, either.

_Blur_ posted...

The real solution here is every town needs it's own massive fireworks display and no one buy their own.

We had one! On the 4th. But people around here start setting stuff off a week or two ahead anyway, and continue on with it for several weeks to follow.

For the record, there are still fireworks going off every so often here tonight and it's after 1am now. When we did have our own fireworks displays when I was a teen, we only did them on July 4th itself and December 31st near midnight. I guess you don't technically need a holiday to use fireworks, but they were clearly purchased for the holiday so I'll never really understand people who still have them 4-5 days later.

Yes, I know my dog will be fine, but that doesn't mean it doesn't bother me seeing her get so worked up and anxious repeatedly during this time of year. It's like getting a stomach virus or something. Yes, I know after a day, I'll be perfectly fine, but it doesn't make the next 24 hours less miserable.

And our area has multiple local fireworks shows, so that clearly doesn't deter people from shooting off their own.

My neighborhood has random people shooting off fireworks (and/or gunshots) maybe twice a month. Often right outside my window since I'm in a good spot for it, so people come from all over the city to shoot them here. It's never more than 3-4 mortars though.

v_charon posted...

Yeah, hard pass

This doesn't make sense either though. Yeah personal fireworks are fun in the pyro sense, but the big shows have way nicer effects. If you want to be pyro there's a lot of cheaper and safer and more fun too. Steel wool on a stick is the best imo.

no I think the main character syndrome is setting off fireworks at your own home because you're too cool and independent to do the community thing

shits still going off nextdoor as I'm typing this lol

Yeah, like I said, I don't expect people to just abstain totally on the day itself, and we do give our dog some medicine because there's no avoiding it. Fireworks are fun.

It's the random fireworks on July 8th when I've just put my son to bed after he fought sleep for an hour that annoy me. Like yeah, I get it, it's a minor thing in the long run, but it's a minor thing to think a little bit about who's going to be affected by your loud displays, too.

UltimaterializerX posted...

When I was a child, thanks to The Little Mermaid, I thought fireworks caused thunderstorms.

Also, people cant expect others not to have fun on July 4th just because their dog is scared of noise. Thats what the veterinarian and Alprazolam are for.

Past that date, sure, you guys have a point, but no fireworks ever because it might inconvenience me personally is main character syndrome.

If people are doing fireworks it better be 4th of July or a local team better have won a championship(Celebrating the ability to finish in 2nd place or worse is lame).

But people have started doing this shit for a week and it sucks.

foolm0r0n posted...

This doesn't make sense either though. Yeah personal fireworks are fun in the pyro sense, but the big shows have way nicer effects. If you want to be pyro there's a lot of cheaper and safer and more fun too. Steel wool on a stick is the best imo.

I enjoyed them for the effects, and having some amount of control over how they appeared in terms of order, colors, etc. But sure, you've got all the answers.

Seginustemple posted...

no I think the main character syndrome is setting off fireworks at your own home because you're too cool and independent to do the community thing

shits still going off nextdoor as I'm typing this lol

Or maybe you... just don't want to? I don't seek out large crowds and groups of people. I just don't like it. It doesn't have anything to do with being "too cool" for it, I'm socially insecure and dislike mass gatherings of people I don't know. Sorry.

Bro I'm talking about people that are still setting off car alarms four days after the holiday this shit ain't social anxiety

Oh sure, yeah. Definitely doesn't make sense.

I don't even consider this weekend as the "holiday weekend". The 4th being on Tuesday made last weekend the long holiday weekend, if anything maybe you do it then but even that seems stupid.

I mean, I live in Let's Go Brandon country so it of course gets a little yee-haw on the 4th but this is definitely the first time it's gone on this long

Seginustemple posted...

I mean, I live in Let's Go Brandon country so it of course gets a little yee-haw on the 4th but this is definitely the first time it's gone on this long

They go fucking nuts here in the LA area too.

And they've gotten noticably worse on the 4th. Not ny noise level, but by oh god by 9pm the air is barely breathable. The last 3 years the 4th has turned the air into a fog of smoke that takes a few days to clear.

I think Tuesday probably has a lot to do with the excessive fireworks. People took the whole weekend prior to start going crazy, decided to keep it going on Monday, did their usual nutso on the 4th and then still had the usual leftovers that have been firing off the rest of the week.

Seginustemple posted...

I mean, I live in Let's Go Brandon country so it of course gets a little yee-haw on the 4th but this is definitely the first time it's gone on this long

My new home is in a similar neighborhood, lol. My dog is only 10 months old and never heard thunder before because northern Utah doesn't get a ton of it. And yes, they are still firing off fireworks tonight, and every night since the 4th.

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If you zoom in you can see all the shrapnel from the day after the 4th. It was ridiculous. All the debris still out there 4 days later.

Seginustemple posted...

Bro I'm talking about people that are still setting off car alarms four days after the holiday this shit ain't social anxiety

Which is a good point, have your dogs never heard a car alarm either?

v_charon posted...

I enjoyed them for the effects, and having some amount of control over how they appeared in terms of order, colors, etc. But sure, you've got all the answers.

My point is the shit is expensive and you can get a 100x better show for the same price or even free by pooling your money and doing a community show.

I've enjoyed the dinky little private shows at my friends' places here and there (they were footing the bill), but it's definitely not worth the money compared to other pyrotechnic options.

My town didnt have anything going on. Didnt even launch fireworks on the 4th and they canceled them yesterday because of rain

foolm0r0n posted...

Which is a good point, have your dogs never heard a car alarm either?

Just gonna make this easy for you

My dog barks at every loud noise