Current Events > ppl are way to harsh on game journalists

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i constantly see ppl shit on them for being "bad at video games'

but they dont seem to realize they have to play multiple games at the same time and rush through them quickly

they dont have the time to properly play and get good at a game

"Being bad at video games" is the least of the issue.

Most glaring issues being:

• Every AAA game is either a 8, 9, 10.
• Their only form of commentary about the game is just trying to relate it to another game
• In the world of always online live service games these games are reviewed before anyone is even on them. Games that get glowing reviews end up being massively buggy disasters when they hit live servers with everyone playing them concurrently.

There are so many other issues too but those are just the biggest ones off the top of my head.

Game journalists are ass.
AI can write better reviews than most major publications.

They're complete buffoons in general

Dakimakura posted...

Every AAA game is either a 8, 9, 10.

they are forced to

Would be better if they stated what difficulty they played at and time spent playing.

20 hours on a 40 hour game + easy mode but still writing a full review and giving it a 90+ is silly

There are quite a few games that fall apart in the later half of the game, which is just as important as the beginning and middle

PowerOats posted...

Would be better if they stated what difficulty they played at and time spent playing.

20 hours on a 40 hour game + easy mode but still writing a full review and giving it a 90+ is silly

again they dont have the time for what you want

No they deserve the hate. If you cant be bothered to actually play the game and just rush it for a review, your review is pointless.

LightHawKnight posted...

No they deserve the hate. If you cant be bothered to actually play the game and just rush it for a review, your review is pointless.

they have to get the review out before the game releases

they are given a very short amount of time to do the review

and have like 3 orther reviews to get done in the same time span

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC4F6ctEO4g

AceMos posted...

they have to get the review out before the game releases

they are given a very short amount of time to do the review

and have like 3 orther reviews to get done in the same time span

So? A pointless garbage review shouldnt exist anyways. Seriously, what is the god damn point of a shit rushed review?

There was a journalist I read a story from who had trouble beating Wolfenstein 2 on the normal difficulty so he had to drop it to easy and the game makes fun of you for that and he bitched about it. Video game journalists deserve to be made fun of.

LightHawKnight posted...

So? A pointless garbage review shouldnt exist anyways. Seriously, what is the god damn point of a shit rushed review?

so then what needs to happen is give reviewers more time

go after the ppl higher up the chain for forcing them to rush a product

and demanding they give AAA games a high score

Irony posted...

There was a journalist I read a story from who had trouble beating Wolfenstein 2 on the normal difficulty so he had to drop it to easy and the game makes fun of you for that and he bitched about it. Video game journalists deserve to be made fun of.

no no he did not deserve to be made fun of

AceMos posted...

they have to get the review out before the game releases

they are given a very short amount of time to do the review

and have like 3 orther reviews to get done in the same time span

Which is why they should state the above at least.

"Game journalist" discourse still hasn't recovered from GamerGate.

Doe posted...

"Game journalist" discourse still hasn't recovered from GamerGate.

gamergate was never about game journalism

AceMos posted...

so then what needs to happen is give reviewers more time

go after the ppl higher up the chain for forcing them to rush a product

and demanding they give AAA games a high score

When they are transparent about that, they may deserve sympathy. Until then, they are deliberately party to corruption and journalistic malpractice.

They should likewise be transparent about the time spent playing. Nobody expects them to 100% every game, but if you only played 5 hours, say so instead of trying to give a false impression you beat it or whatever.

PraetorXyn posted...

When they are transparent about that, they may deserve sympathy. Until then, they are deliberately party to corruption and journalistic malpractice.

They should likewise be transparent about the time spent playing. Nobody expects them to 100% every game, but if you only played 5 hours, say so instead of trying to give a false impression you beat it or whatever.

they would likely get fired if they did what you want

AceMos posted...

they would likely get fired if they did what you want

Yes, and its fair to criticize them for not seeking out a better job where they dont have to flush their integrity down the toilet to keep it. If theyre that passionate about reviewing games, they could get on with an independent outfit that makes YouTube / article reviews, then do a First Impressions, 5 things I wish I knew when starting, full review when theyre done, etc.

PraetorXyn posted...

Yes, and its fair to criticize them for not seeking out a better job where they dont have to flush their integrity down the toilet to keep it.

easy to say that when its not your job on the line

they need money for food and bills

AceMos posted...

easy to say that when its not your job on the line

they need money for food and bills

Lets just set aside the fact that everyone knows what an awful industry mainstream traditional gaming journalism is, so its their own fault for getting into that trap in the first place.

Its fine to keep your head down while looking for something better everyones been there. But when youre still there wallowing in it after years, thats on you.

Dakimakura posted...

Every AAA game is either a 8, 9, 10.

Ever watch CE review anything? Same phenomena. 7 is bad, 8 is mediocre, 9 is good, 10 is great. That's just their baseline.

bump

Like any journalist, they are doing the job demanded of them by the publication that pays them.

They're doing a job they enjoy and getting paid for it. They aren't covering up political malfeasance or burying scandals that cost lives, they are, at worst, doing shoddy reviews of videogames.

They aren't going to quit and go work at McDonalds because the task offends their moral sensibilities.

AceMos posted...

easy to say that when its not your job on the line

they need money for food and bills

So your excuse is that they should do poor, misleading reviews because it's their job and no one should criticize the state of video game journalism and the writers that partake in keeping such a field in such a state? I really don't get your point. If the stuff is bad and generally not worth reading, why bother?

PraetorXyn posted...

When they are transparent about that, they may deserve sympathy. Until then, they are deliberately party to corruption and journalistic malpractice.

This sounds like "all cops" kind of sentiment.

I mean, not breaking from a system because it will punish and ostracize you if you do is a kind of complicity...

But would you apply this same standard to other occupations? Like cops?

AceMos posted...

easy to say that when its not your job on the line

they need money for food and bills

Ace then they need to either A) get better at their job or B)get another job

If you have a job and you suck your boss will either tell you so or cut your hours before firing you

ai123 posted...

Like any journalist, they are doing the job demanded of them by the publication that pays them.

They're doing a job they enjoy and getting paid for it. They aren't covering up political malfeasance or burying scandals that cost lives, they are, at worst, doing shoddy reviews of videogames.

They aren't going to quit and go work at McDonalds because the task offends their moral sensibilities.

No ones suggesting quitting and working at McDonalds. I was suggesting finding something better like working for a more independent outlet with more integrity for the same pay and then quitting.

I just wish some were more well researched. I don't think it is so much your every day review is so bad, but looking up stuff on the internet is awful usually everything looks like it was written by an AI. "Now you know how to do this. Thanks for reading my article."

I have a habit of sidetracking the main point, I'm really sorry. I don't expect a journalist to blast a game unless it really is bad, but transparency and research would help.

they and the companies and websites behind them deserve it

don't like it, then get better at it,we demand better or we demand them to just go away we don't need them

DnDer posted...

This sounds like "all cops" kind of sentiment.

I mean, not breaking from a system because it will punish and ostracize you if you do is a kind of complicity...

But would you apply this same standard to other occupations? Like cops?

I wouldn't apply it to cops, because when cops are corrupt and incompetent, people die or lose their liberty.

When game journalists do it people may . . . be a bit disappointed in a videogame?

I mean, in an ideal world that wouldn't happen either. But at least there are alternatives, so you don't have to place your trust in a games journalist.

DnDer posted...

This sounds like "all cops" kind of sentiment.

I mean, not breaking from a system because it will punish and ostracize you if you do is a kind of complicity...

But would you apply this same standard to other occupations? Like cops?

Those arent equivalent, as most cops arent shit and most gaming journalists are.

The original context was TC saying their reviews are shit because their bosses rush them, put too much in their plate, and would punish them if they spoke out about those things, etc. The equivalence to cops in that situation would be a cop who shot an unarmed black person because their lieutenant made them do it, and that doesnt actually exist.

PraetorXyn posted...

No ones suggesting quitting and working at McDonalds. I was suggesting finding something better like working for a more independent outlet with more integrity for the same pay and then quitting.

I'm sure they would prefer to do that anyway. Who wouldn't? Are there many vacancies?

PraetorXyn posted...

most cops arent shit

Setting yourself up for a real bad day one day

No they aren't. A lot of journos act like they are good at games or are even gaming historians but a lot of them are casuals who are mediocre at what they do and play on lower difficulties, corpo shill sellouts who give highly inflated scores, don't even remember names of characters or locations and how to pronounce them when writing and reading their reviews. It's bullshit that these frauds actually get paid to do what they do and think they deserve clout and respect for it when casual fans who like these games will provide way better gameplay demonstrations and more accurate in depth critic of the overall product for free. Fuck game "pro" game journos.

Doe posted...

Setting yourself up for a real bad day one day

Facts are facts. How many cops are there in this country versus how many incidents we have? Even given that we disproportionately have more incidents than other countries, its still a very small proportion from a statistical standpoint.

This argument that it's okay to do a shitty job because of time constraints doesn't hold water. Imagine a real reporter turning in a news story that contains half of the facts because he's got other shit to do. They'd be fired and rightfully so. Part of bring a journalist is working to deadlines. 99% of Game journalists wouldn't be able to handle a real job in journalism.

Doe posted...

Setting yourself up for a real bad day one day

Yup. You don't need to respect cops deep down, but you need to yield to their authority considering they are equipped to seriously hurt or even kill you if they consider you a threat.

PraetorXyn posted...

The equivalence to cops in that situation would be a cop who shot an unarmed black person because their lieutenant made them do it, and that doesnt actually exist.

Or maybe generating tens of thousands of traffic violations that don't exist in order to pad their numbers and justify their existence and budget through higher "productivity?"

That might be a better analogy.

https://www.ctinsider.com/news/article/ct-state-police-false-ticket-scandal-18183222.php

Number090684 posted...

No they aren't. A lot of journos act like they are good at games or are even gaming historians but a lot of them are casuals who are mediocre at what they do and play on lower difficulties, corpo shill sellouts who give highly inflated scores, don't even remember names of characters or locations and how to pronounce them when writing and reading their reviews. It's bullshit that these frauds actually get paid to do what they do and think they deserve clout and respect for it when casual fans who like these games will provide way better gameplay demonstrations and more accurate in depth critic of the overall product for free. Fuck game "pro" game journos.

Pretty much this. Any rando reviewer on YouTube will provide a better review. This is doubly true if you go to a specialist. For example, for JRPGs there are several people off the top of my head who tend to get advanced copies and provide good reviews, like davidvinc.

The situation is made worse because the pro journos arent just incompetent, but also put up smoke and mirrors and outright lie and fabricate things on top of incompetence.

DnDer posted...

Or maybe generating tens of thousands of traffic violations that don't exist in order to pad their numbers and justify their existence and budget through higher "productivity?"

That might be a better analogy.

https://www.ctinsider.com/news/article/ct-state-police-false-ticket-scandal-18183222.php

Touch.

I maintain that anyone entering either profession knew what they were getting themselves into and has no one but themselves to blame if they decide their lot in life sucks.

PraetorXyn posted...

Pretty much this. Any rando reviewer on YouTube will provide a better review. This is doubly true if you go to a specialist. For example, for JRPGs there are several people off the top of my head who tend to get advanced copies and provide good reviews, like davidvinc.

The situation is made worse because the pro journals arent just incompetent, but also put up smoke and mirrors and outright lie and fabricate things on top of incompetence.

yes and those youtubers have more TIME to play the games

they are not forced to rush out a review while playing multiple games at the same time

AceMos posted...

yes and those youtubers have more TIME to play the games

they are not forced to rush out a review while playing multiple games at the same time

you act as if these poor journos are incapable of getting another job and are held at gunpoint in their chairs. First, thats not the case, and second, they voluntarily entered the awful gaming journalism industry in the first place, so why should anyone have any sympathy for them?

gamersTM continue to be gamersTM

Not my fault they refuse to git gud.

There are two problems.

1) Journalists can always be bad.

The problem is if I read a journalist writing about something I'm expert on, I may say "yeah, okay, that's plausible".

But if it's a topic I'm familiar with, the number of times I was reacting with "wtf is this bullshit?" is way too high.

If it's about gaming, there are just way too many people knowing what the journalists are talking about.

But that's a general journalist problem.

The actual issue with gaming journalists is this:

2) the amount of bullshit clickbait articles is just way too high. For real. If you want information, "gaming journalists" are the 100% worst source you could use at any time ever.

I wanted to know if they added the rainbow color into Monster Hunter Rise with some patch I missed over time. So, I googled "Rainbow color Monster Hunter rise"

Even this day, this is the number 1 result from such a google search:

Rainbow Pigment MH Rise
Apr 09, 2021, 17:25 by Ketchua
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Rainbow Pigment is a special item in Monster Hunter Rise. Like other pigments, it is used to change the color of your armor pieces. Unlike other pigments, it doesnt have a set color instead, it flashes and rotates colors as time passes. Its a pretty cool effect, and many people want to get their hands on it. If youre wondering how to get it, our MH Rise rainbow pigment guide will help you.

Rainbow Pigment in Monster Hunter Rise

Sadly, nobody knows how to unlock the rainbow pigment in Monster Hunter Rise at this point. Its even possible that its not even in the game yet the devs have commited to regularly updating the game with new content in the coming months. This means that the rainbow pigment might be added at a later date.
In previous games, getting access to the rainbow pigment meant completing all optional quests, capturing and researching all of the monsters, and more. It was a Herculean effort, that much is certain.
For now, were absolutely certain you wont get the MH Rise rainbow pigment by doing the following:
Completing every village quest
Completing every hub quest
Completing every arena quest
Completing all villager requests
Finding and taking a picture of every endemic life creature
Taking a picture of every small monster
Taking a picture of every large monster
Capturing every large monster
Gathering all relics
Building all sub-camps
Putting down all great wirebugs at jewel lillies
We, and many others, have tried doing all of that and had no success in unlocking the rainbow pigment in Monster Hunter Rise. Well keep a close eye on things, and well update the guide when we find out more. If youve managed to unlock it yourself, wed appreciate it if you shared what you did in the comments.

It's insane.

Last time I read an article about TOTK and all these crazy constructions people showed around.

Comment from the "gaming journalist" in a nutshell:
"But they must all be cheating, because there is no way to get so many batteries, energy and mats together to build such stuff".

That's just bullshit. It's completly wrong. I'm 100% convinced that this was written by someone who didn't even know about the autobuild function in TOTK.

That's not a skill issue, that's just being terrible at your job.

AceMos posted...

yes and those youtubers have more TIME to play the games

they are not forced to rush out a review while playing multiple games at the same time

It's okay to half-ass a job if you're pushed for time, got it.