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MoistTowelettte
07/12/23 6:04:10 PM
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All billionaires are in some way evil



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CADE_FOSTER
07/12/23 6:39:25 PM
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You saying Elon ain't great
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wackyteen
07/12/23 6:40:46 PM
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Idk about actively evil for some of them but definitely could be considered evil by negligence to the societies they have profited off the back of

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Incredible
07/12/23 6:50:57 PM
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Neither good nor evil. They're just people at the end of the day, only that they're richer than most.

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Dragon239
07/12/23 6:55:23 PM
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Level-headed "actually, good/evil don't even exist" argument, probably. Semantics.

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Incredible
07/12/23 6:56:00 PM
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People do bad things to stay wealthy, yes. But that's just how it is. Poor people do bad shit, too. Some billionaires do some good things with their money.

People are just people. They do good and bad things.

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Incredible
07/12/23 7:03:24 PM
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How "good" or "evil" you are really has nothing to do with your wealth.

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MoistTowelettte
07/12/23 9:02:50 PM
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joe40001
07/12/23 9:06:23 PM
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There are no good billionaires: False
All billionaires are in some way evil: Probably True because all people are probably in some way evil, even if they would not be characterized as evil.

If good/evil are on a non discrete dimension then it's effectively infinitely improbable that a person could be 0% evil. IMO

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rexcrk
07/12/23 9:13:33 PM
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So were in another billionaire arc on here now?

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Incredible
07/12/23 9:19:59 PM
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It's not good, but "evil" is a stretch. It's just being greedy.

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drclaeys
07/12/23 9:33:13 PM
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Friends,

so for some reason you KNOW all the doings of the Billionaires on the planet.

Just what makes a person good or evil. Some people thought Hitler was good.

70 million people voted for Trump. do you think he is good??

So do be good, what percentage of good deeds do you have to do. 51% ????

Is it a light switch, you are EITHER good, or evil no in between????

This is a childlike thread. You need to take a philosophy class, or maybe two. and Ethics.

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KitKats
07/12/23 9:35:08 PM
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inb4 jk rowling

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Incredible
07/12/23 9:38:40 PM
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When I think of evil, I think of murderers, rapists, terrorists, etc. Feels weird to put people like Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, etc in that category just for being ridiculously rich.

Yeah, them being so rich is bad for the economy, but I wouldn't call them evil just because of that.

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gatorsPENSbucs
07/12/23 9:42:14 PM
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False.

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Pitlord_Special
07/12/23 10:19:50 PM
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No, don't you see? You just need to 'take some classes' (consume more bourgeois propaganda) and re-educate yourself to the virtues of the billionaire class.

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Heineken14
07/12/23 10:23:00 PM
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Incredible posted...
Neither good nor evil. They're just people at the end of the day, only that they're richer than most.


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Incredible
07/12/23 11:25:45 PM
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Tons of people want to be rich and if they had the opportunity to become billionaires, they would take it. If billionaires are evil for being so rich, then a lot of people are evil. Can you really say that you wouldn't accept a billion dollars if they were presented to you? And if you would, then what makes you so different from these evil billionaires?

I don't think this is so black and white. A lot of things are "evil", but they're so common that they're considered necessary evils. No one actually needs a billion dollars, but if they earned that amount of money lawfully, then it's theirs to keep. People have the right to use their money however they want, regardless of how rich they are. Billionaires fuck the economy up, but if they're not breaking any laws, who's to stop them? You can't objectively determine good or evil, anyway; all we can do is come up with laws for people to follow.

If you consider someone to be evil for being a billionaire, then OK. I just don't think it's that simple.

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Euripides
07/12/23 11:33:20 PM
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100% True. Billionaires shouldn't exist

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gatorsPENSbucs
07/13/23 12:39:10 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
https://imgur.com/VNFRZsh.jpg
Its funny. 99% of the talk is from people who hate billionaires, yet somehow the 1% are labeled as the bad guys because they dont blindly hate people.

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WingsOfGood
07/13/23 12:46:02 AM
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Incredible posted...
Neither good nor evil. They're just people at the end of the day, only that they're richer than most.

No one passively becomes a billionaire.

Every billionaire gets there through some form of scamming.
Zuck stole from his buddies. Gates did similar.
McDonalds "Founder" paid two brothers for their idea. They were the McDonald brothers he was not a McDonald.

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WingsOfGood
07/13/23 12:49:25 AM
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Incredible posted...
Tons of people want to be rich and if they had the opportunity to become billionaires, they would take it. If billionaires are evil for being so rich, then a lot of people are evil. Can you really say that you wouldn't accept a billion dollars if they were presented to you? And if you would, then what makes you so different from these evil billionaires?

I don't think this is so black and white. A lot of things are "evil", but they're so common that they're considered necessary evils. No one actually needs a billion dollars, but if they earned that amount of money lawfully, then it's theirs to keep. People have the right to use their money however they want, regardless of how rich they are. Billionaires fuck the economy up, but if they're not breaking any laws, who's to stop them? You can't objectively determine good or evil, anyway; all we can do is come up with laws for people to follow.

If you consider someone to be evil for being a billionaire, then OK. I just don't think it's that simple.

And you show the ignorance of people who defend them.

You equate them to just being handed a billion and then all the sudden people hate them!

Actively being evil via: union busting, literally not paying employees, outsourcing, and on and on

Btw many things they do IS infact illegal but they as well as other business simply get away with it all the time

Oh to be so naive

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Torgo
07/13/23 12:50:43 AM
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Problem with this topic is that it's trying to personalize and oversimplify this.

It's not there can be no altruistic or "good" billionaires, it's that the existence of billionaires is detrimental. One un-elected person being able to control so much wealth and influence over society is harmful.

That's the problem... it's not whether or not George Soros, Elon Musk, Bill Gates, or David Koch are "good or "bad" it's that with so much consolidated wealth they live above the law and can dump so much money into personal projects or political influence.


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shnangyboos
07/13/23 12:52:32 AM
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What punishments should these evildoers face? They only got to their position through immoral acts, and they've hurt the poor, the workers, and the country as a whole. What justice does their transgressions deserve?

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WingsOfGood
07/13/23 12:53:16 AM
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Torgo posted...
it's not whether or not George Soros, Elon Musk, Bill Gates, or David Koch are "good or "bad" it's

It literally is

Stop thinking they woke up one day to billion dollars.

Theu actively did bad things and illegal things to get there
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WingsOfGood
07/13/23 12:55:38 AM
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shnangyboos posted...
What punishments should these evildoers face? They only got to their position through immoral acts, and they've hurt the poor, the workers, and the country as a whole. What justice does their transgressions deserve?

For one thing when a place is in violation of laws such as closing a newly unionized store, threatening unions etc which I must express to to tc and others IS ILLEGAL
LITERALLY ILLEGAL

It should actually hurt their ability to continue to make billions rather than being seen simply as a necessary slap on the wrist they can ignore in the pursuit of way more Ill gotten gains

Same with witholding pay

Did you guys know about Elon Musk failing to pay twitter employees severance. Literally illegal but he is rich and can tie it up in court

Don't be ignorant learn about what they do, understand
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andel
07/13/23 12:57:48 AM
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it isn't impossible, just unlikely.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Feeney

that guy was worth billions and gave away his entire fortune, more than 8 billion dollars. he donated his last 7 million years ago

if someone inherits billions they could be a good person, more likely than someone who accumulated billions by being ruthless

also warren buffet seems like a good person from what i know about him. he is also giving away all of his money to charity other than a few million to his kids

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WingsOfGood
07/13/23 12:59:45 AM
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andel posted...
it isn't impossible, just unlikely.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Feeney

that guy was worth billions and gave away his entire fortune, more than 8 billion dollars. he donated his last 7 million years ago

if someone inherits billions they could be a good person, more likely than someone who accumulated billions by being ruthless

also warren buffet seems like a good person from what i know about him. he is also giving away all of his money to charity other than a few million to his kids

He is not a good billionaire as he gave it away.

He is a good regular person or small millionaire.

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andel
07/13/23 1:02:54 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
He is not a good billionaire as he gave it away.

He is a good regular person or small millionaire.

the point is that it isn't impossible for a billionaire to be a good person as that guy was a billionaire until he donated all his money to charity. also someone can inherit billions without being an evil sociopath although most heirs are probably not great people if they aren't trying to donate most of their money.

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Incredible
07/13/23 1:02:56 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Btw many things they do IS infact illegal but they as well as other business simply get away with it all the time

If they're breaking laws to keep their money, then yeah, fuck them. But just because they're billionaires doesn't mean they're breaking laws.

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andel
07/13/23 1:03:24 AM
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lol you are having a full-blown meltdown now after getting smacked around in that other topic i see

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WingsOfGood
07/13/23 1:05:17 AM
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Incredible posted...
If they're breaking laws to keep their money, then yeah, fuck them. But just because they're billionaires doesn't mean they're breaking laws.

So what do you make of Elon Musk not paying severance and tieing it up in court?

All these dudes do things like this. Name one you believe does not. Will be interesting to read about them.
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andel
07/13/23 1:07:07 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
So what do you make of Elon Musk not paying severance and tieing it up in court?

All these dudes do things like this. Name one you believe does not. Will be interesting to read about them.

if they do stuff like that they are shitbags

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WingsOfGood
07/13/23 1:10:46 AM
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andel posted...
if they do stuff like that they are shitbags

They do.

That is HOW they are billionaires.
Howard Shcultz union busts. It has been news for like the past 2 years about workers constant fighting with Starbucks.

None of this is secret info.

You can find real world examples of this stuff from: Zuck, Walmart people, McDonalds.

Name a good billionaire cause it is SUPER easy to name a bad one. Even Warren Buffet has controversies.

Only good one you gonna find is that guy you named whose credit is that he STOPPED being a billionaire.
Lmao

To be a good billionaire you got stop being one
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andel
07/13/23 1:12:02 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
So what do you make of Elon Musk not paying severance and tieing it up in court?

All these dudes do things like this. Name one you believe does not. Will be interesting to read about them.

has warren buffet done anything really shady? he may have, but looks like his biggest controversy was giving money to pro choice organizations when right wingers threw a shit fit. i can't find anything crazy he was involved in but he is giving away basically his entire fortune to charity when he dies and donates billions every year.

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andel
07/13/23 1:14:42 AM
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nah you seem to be the only one melting down in multiple topics without being able to address my posts. the person you quoted actually seems to be posting in good faith

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WingsOfGood
07/13/23 1:15:33 AM
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andel posted...
has warren buffet done anything really shady? he may have, but looks like his biggest controversy was giving money to pro choice organizations when right wingers threw a shit fit. i can't find anything crazy he was involved in but he is giving away basically his entire fortune to charity when he dies and donates billions every year.


One such controversy for Berkshire Hathaway (NYSE: BRK.A, BRK.B) and its CEO was Buffett's investment in Goldman Sachs (NYSE: GS) during the 2008 financial crisis and his ongoing public support for the company and its management.

The two worked hard to stop a proposed acquisition of Wesco by Financial Corp. in 1973 and then spent the next two years acquiring a majority stake in Wesco.
Ultimately, the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) investigated this deal (and Buffett's investment practices in general). It obtained a consent decree from Blue Chip Stamps that extracted a $115,000 payout for Wesco shareholders to compensate them for damages inflicted by the maneuver.


Oh wow $115,000 fine!
However will he pay that!

This is how the get away with illegal stuff.

https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0510/buffett-scandals-then-and-now.aspx
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WingsOfGood
07/13/23 1:19:34 AM
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Also here is a whole article on this subject

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/13/opinion/warren-buffett-billionaire-taxes.html
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Tenaku
07/13/23 1:24:07 AM
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Hmm. So what does a billionaire have to do to be good?
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Kloe_Rinz
07/13/23 1:29:29 AM
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Neither good nor evil. They're just people at the end of the day, only that they're richer than most.
Lmao fuck off
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