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FlyEaglesFly24 07/22/23 6:02:57 PM #51:	Lets be honest. The Force Awakens set up a bad trilogy. Too much happening without context, just trying way too hard to hit on all the tropes of the original trilogy. We wanted to know what happened after Return of the Jedi and what Disney told us was Fuck You, not a damn thing has changed. And instead of your favorite three characters being the heroes, heres three more that are trying way too hard to be exactly the same. So of course Episode 8 and 9 were going to be dog shit. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:975004408] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>Lets be honest. The Force Awakens set up a bad trilogy. Too much happening without context, just trying way too hard to hit on all the tropes of the original trilogy.We wanted to know what happened after Return of the Jedi and what Disney told us was Fuck You, not a damn thing has changed. And instead of your favorite three characters being the heroes, heres three more that are trying way too hard to be exactly the same.So of course Episode 8 and 9 were going to be dog shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dancing_cactuar 07/22/23 6:09:54 PM #52:	rexcrk posted... Complaints about the sequel trilogy are still incredibly cringey I see. Cant wait till this isnt the in thing anymore. Complaining about bad movies has been a thing for a while now, just look at the prequels. FlyEaglesFly24 posted... Lets be honest. The Force Awakens set up a bad trilogy. Too much happening without context, just trying way too hard to hit on all the tropes of the original trilogy. We wanted to know what happened after Return of the Jedi and what Disney told us was Fuck You, not a damn thing has changed. And instead of your favorite three characters being the heroes, heres three more that are trying way too hard to be exactly the same. So of course Episode 8 and 9 were going to be dog shit. It was a bad setup, but it still had the stupid empty mystery boxes that could potentially be worked with. But instead of attempting to try and finagle something out of it, Rian decided to just do some bizarre experiment with subverting expectations that just didn't work at all and left little for the final chapter. And then to make things even dumber J. J decided to make Rise a movie out of spite, something which always will result in a good product. --- Believing that Disney movies are for families is akin to buying into Nazi propaganda- LoyalToTheGame PS5s have liquid metal tech like the T-1000- AceCombatX <cite>dancing_cactuar posted [p:975004516] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>rexcrk posted... </cite><quote>Complaints about the sequel trilogy are still incredibly cringey I see. Cant wait till this isnt the in thing anymore.</quote>Complaining about bad movies has been a thing for a while now, just look at the prequels.FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>Lets be honest. The Force Awakens set up a bad trilogy. Too much happening without context, just trying way too hard to hit on all the tropes of the original trilogy.We wanted to know what happened after Return of the Jedi and what Disney told us was Fuck You, not a damn thing has changed. And instead of your favorite three characters being the heroes, heres three more that are trying way too hard to be exactly the same.So of course Episode 8 and 9 were going to be dog shit.</quote>It was a bad setup, but it still had the stupid empty mystery boxes that could potentially be worked with. But instead of attempting to try and finagle something out of it, Rian decided to just do some bizarre experiment with subverting expectations that just didn't work at all and left little for the final chapter. And then to make things even dumber J. J decided to make Rise a movie out of spite, something which always will result in a good product.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Son_Of_Spam 07/22/23 6:32:11 PM #53:	Rian gets a lot of the blame for the trilogy, but a lot of the problems with the trilogy started with the first one. The movie had almost no world-building. We know nothing about the state of the galaxy in the 30 years since the last movie. It also completely undid every accomplishment from the original trilogy. It tries to establish 3 main characters, gives them almost no screen time together, and sets them up to be split apart in the next movie. And I don't know what Rian was supposed to do with Luke. TFA established that Luke went into hiding after his Jedi Order was destroyed. What good reason could he have possibly gone into hiding while the Galaxy was in crisis? Also why does RJ get all of the blame for TLJ when JJ was the executive producer? --- 20 years on Gamefaqs, and I still don't have a signature. <cite>Son_Of_Spam posted [p:975004894] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>Rian gets a lot of the blame for the trilogy, but a lot of the problems with the trilogy started with the first one. The movie had almost no world-building. We know nothing about the state of the galaxy in the 30 years since the last movie. It also completely undid every accomplishment from the original trilogy. It tries to establish 3 main characters, gives them almost no screen time together, and sets them up to be split apart in the next movie. And I don't know what Rian was supposed to do with Luke. TFA established that Luke went into hiding after his Jedi Order was destroyed. What good reason could he have possibly gone into hiding while the Galaxy was in crisis?Also why does RJ get all of the blame for TLJ when JJ was the executive producer?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PballDepot 07/22/23 6:34:55 PM #54:	It was for him, otherwise: GATTJT posted... TLJ had some good scenes, unlike RoS --- https://i.imgur.com/3nl5l.png <cite>PballDepot posted [p:975004942] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>It was for him, otherwise:GATTJT posted... </cite><quote>TLJ had some good scenes, unlike RoS</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phoro 07/22/23 6:37:11 PM #55:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] --- *It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.* - George Carlin <cite>Phoro posted [p:975004976] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boomgetchopped3 07/22/23 6:40:31 PM #56:	Theyre all terrible but TLJ had a couple genuinely good ideas. Namely ~~killing snoke, making her a nobody, and Luke projecting himself with the force.~~ <cite>boomgetchopped3 posted [p:975005024] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>Theyre all terrible but TLJ had a couple genuinely good ideas. Namely killing snoke, making her a nobody, and Luke projecting himself with the force.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 07/22/23 6:48:21 PM #57:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... And instead of your favorite three characters being the heroes Now look, even I know that it'd be difficult to do a Hera Syndulla, Geode, and Turgle movie. --- CyricZ He/him http://twitch.tv/cyricz42 <cite>CyricZ posted [p:975005148] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>And instead of your favorite three characters being the heroes</quote>Now look, even I know that it'd be difficult to do a Hera Syndulla, Geode, and Turgle movie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zithers 07/22/23 6:49:56 PM #58:	interesting take since the last jedi is the best star wars movie --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m02lct2g9l1qdlvg6o1_500.gif https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1283-quality-cinema-club <cite>Zithers posted [p:975005172] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>interesting take since the last jedi is the best star wars movie</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Destroyer53 07/22/23 7:10:51 PM #59:	Son_Of_Spam posted... Rian gets a lot of the blame for the trilogy, but a lot of the problems with the trilogy started with the first one. The movie had almost no world-building. We know nothing about the state of the galaxy in the 30 years since the last movie. It also completely undid every accomplishment from the original trilogy. It tries to establish 3 main characters, gives them almost no screen time together, and sets them up to be split apart in the next movie. And I don't know what Rian was supposed to do with Luke. TFA established that Luke went into hiding after his Jedi Order was destroyed. What good reason could he have possibly gone into hiding while the Galaxy was in crisis? Also why does RJ get all of the blame for TLJ when JJ was the executive producer? I agree that RJ shouldn't get all the blame. JJ played a part and Kennedy oversaw the whole thing as well. <cite>Destroyer53 posted [p:975005503] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>Son_Of_Spam posted... </cite><quote>Rian gets a lot of the blame for the trilogy, but a lot of the problems with the trilogy started with the first one. The movie had almost no world-building. We know nothing about the state of the galaxy in the 30 years since the last movie. It also completely undid every accomplishment from the original trilogy. It tries to establish 3 main characters, gives them almost no screen time together, and sets them up to be split apart in the next movie. And I don't know what Rian was supposed to do with Luke. TFA established that Luke went into hiding after his Jedi Order was destroyed. What good reason could he have possibly gone into hiding while the Galaxy was in crisis?Also why does RJ get all of the blame for TLJ when JJ was the executive producer?</quote>I agree that RJ shouldn't get all the blame. JJ played a part and Kennedy oversaw the whole thing as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CrestedTax 07/22/23 7:18:12 PM #60:	boomgetchopped3 posted... Theyre all terrible but TLJ had a couple genuinely good ideas. Namely ~~killing snoke, making her a nobody, and Luke projecting himself with the force.~~ That's probably among the worst ideas TLJ had. <cite>CrestedTax posted [p:975005606] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>boomgetchopped3 posted... </cite><quote>Theyre all terrible but TLJ had a couple genuinely good ideas. Namely killing snoke, making her a nobody, and Luke projecting himself with the force.</quote>That's probably among the worst ideas TLJ had.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheShadowViper 07/22/23 7:19:57 PM #61:	He ain't wrong. Son_Of_Spam posted... And I don't know what Rian was supposed to do with Luke. TFA established that Luke went into hiding after his Jedi Order was destroyed. What good reason could he have possibly gone into hiding while the Galaxy was in crisis? Also why does RJ get all of the blame for TLJ when JJ was the executive producer? You don't know what Rian was supposed to do with Luke? He could done any number of a thousand things including making him go search for something that would allow him to bring back the jedi order in a new form or any number of quests. Instead Rian went with "this guy went to die on an island while his friends and family were massacred". And Rian gets most of the blame because he had complete creative control. The reason Kathleen Kennedy is to blame is because she gave him that control, and the reason JJ does get blame (he is not blameless as you suggest) is because of his shoddy world building and setup that was done in Episode 7. But the reason the blame for him doesn't go crazy is because he never planned on returning and while Episode 7 was a poor reboot with a lot of questions and no answers, it was competent enough for a non-idiot to make something good out of. Rian was not up to the task. And if you want to talk shit world building, there is none shittier than TLJ which conjures entire fleets out of thin air and declares the First Order lords of the galaxy without explaining how exactly they accomplished that after the conclusion of the previously movie. It has mind boggling bad answers for questions like "Where is the Republic fleet?" (when it even bothers to give critical answers at all), Etc. It is extremely poorly thought out movie in nearly every single category. <cite>TheShadowViper posted [p:975005648] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>He ain't wrong.Son_Of_Spam posted... </cite><quote>And I don't know what Rian was supposed to do with Luke. TFA established that Luke went into hiding after his Jedi Order was destroyed. What good reason could he have possibly gone into hiding while the Galaxy was in crisis?Also why does RJ get all of the blame for TLJ when JJ was the executive producer?</quote>You don't know what Rian was supposed to do with Luke? He could done any number of a thousand things including making him go search for something that would allow him to bring back the jedi order in a new form or any number of quests. Instead Rian went with "this guy went to die on an island while his friends and family were massacred".And Rian gets most of the blame because he had complete creative control. The reason Kathleen Kennedy is to blame is because she gave him that control, and the reason JJ does get blame (he is not blameless as you suggest) is because of his shoddy world building and setup that was done in Episode 7. But the reason the blame for him doesn't go crazy is because he never planned on returning and while Episode 7 was a poor reboot with a lot of questions and no answers, it was competent enough for a non-idiot to make something good out of. Rian was not up to the task.And if you want to talk shit world building, there is none shittier than TLJ which conjures entire fleets out of thin air and declares the First Order lords of the galaxy without explaining how exactly they accomplished that after the conclusion of the previously movie. It has mind boggling bad answers for questions like "Where is the Republic fleet?" (when it even bothers to give critical answers at all), Etc. It is extremely poorly thought out movie in nearly every single category.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
archedsoul 07/22/23 7:21:14 PM #62:	Yeah, Boyega definitely hates TLJ because of what they did to him. He was especially vicious in that GQ interview where he said it was shit and that he was happy JJ returned to fix Disney's fuck up. Daisy Ridley also started crying with joy when she heard JJ was back. So at least the main cast seemed to love him. Rian Johnson must have been a pain to work with. Unfortunately, it was too late by then for JJ to do anything but fuck it up more. I think Trevorrow's "Battle of Coruscant" end seemed way more compelling. I also never got the "TLJ was trying something different" shit. If TFA was a copy of ANH, TLJ was just a remix of TESB and ROTJ with a few things swapped around. Also as a long time sci-fi fan, the whole chase thing was such a tired old trope by then. Literally my favorite show ended with a similar premise years before, and they used that same premise several more times in the spinoffs. The whole casino thing was like a bad Doctor Who episode with two companions fumbling about with a super cringy and pointless Del Toro (who I love otherwise). --- "Fear cuts deeper than swords." <cite>archedsoul posted [p:975005671] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, Boyega definitely hates TLJ because of what they did to him. He was especially vicious in that GQ interview where he said it was shit and that he was happy JJ returned to fix Disney's fuck up. Daisy Ridley also started crying with joy when she heard JJ was back. So at least the main cast seemed to love him. Rian Johnson must have been a pain to work with.Unfortunately, it was too late by then for JJ to do anything but fuck it up more. I think Trevorrow's "Battle of Coruscant" end seemed way more compelling.I also never got the "TLJ was trying something different" shit. If TFA was a copy of ANH, TLJ was just a remix of TESB and ROTJ with a few things swapped around.Also as a long time sci-fi fan, the whole chase thing was such a tired old trope by then. Literally my favorite show ended with a similar premise years before, and they used that same premise several more times in the spinoffs.The whole casino thing was like a bad Doctor Who episode with two companions fumbling about with a super cringy and pointless Del Toro (who I love otherwise).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JKwaffle 07/22/23 7:21:28 PM #63:	C_Pain posted... I like The Last Jedi and I'm tired of pretending it's bad. Also, in what world is RoS not the worst? I thought that was generally agreed upon. --- - The user formerly known as WafflehouseJK <cite>JKwaffle posted [p:975005678] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>C_Pain posted... </cite><quote>I like The Last Jedi and I'm tired of pretending it's bad. Also, in what world is RoS not the worst? I thought that was generally agreed upon.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 07/22/23 7:31:31 PM #64:	archedsoul posted... Unfortunately, it was too late by then for JJ to do anything but fuck it up more. I think Trevorrow's "Battle of Coruscant" end seemed way more compelling. Please don't whitewash JJ's hand in creating a shithole of a film so bad it's questionable to call it a movie at all. --- Sigful User Logic <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:975005846] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>archedsoul posted... </cite><quote>Unfortunately, it was too late by then for JJ to do anything but fuck it up more. I think Trevorrow's "Battle of Coruscant" end seemed way more compelling.</quote>Please don't whitewash JJ's hand in creating a shithole of a film so bad it's questionable to call it a movie at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boomgetchopped3 07/22/23 7:37:32 PM #65:	CrestedTax posted... That's probably among the worst ideas TLJ had. what do you consider the best ideas TLJ had? <cite>boomgetchopped3 posted [p:975005960] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>CrestedTax posted... </cite><quote>That's probably among the worst ideas TLJ had.</quote>what do you consider the best ideas TLJ had?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 07/22/23 7:43:13 PM #66:	Boy, I never get tired of "Because of Episode 8, JJ Abrams had no choice but to make a bad Episode 9". --- CyricZ He/him http://twitch.tv/cyricz42 <cite>CyricZ posted [p:975006044] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>Boy, I never get tired of "Because of Episode 8, JJ Abrams had no choice but to make a bad Episode 9".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
archedsoul 07/22/23 7:43:19 PM #67:	BurmesePenguin posted... Please don't whitewash JJ's hand in creating a shithole of a film so bad it's questionable to call it a movie at all. I didn't whitewash anything as I said he fucked it up. He's made otherwise great things and they only called him back after Trevorrow was kicked and then was given an extremely tight schedule to do TRoS. That was on Kennedy and Lucasfilm. --- "Fear cuts deeper than swords." <cite>archedsoul posted [p:975006046] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>BurmesePenguin posted... </cite><quote>Please don't whitewash JJ's hand in creating a shithole of a film so bad it's questionable to call it a movie at all.</quote>I didn't whitewash anything as I said he fucked it up. He's made otherwise great things and they only called him back after Trevorrow was kicked and then was given an extremely tight schedule to do TRoS. That was on Kennedy and Lucasfilm.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 07/22/23 7:52:37 PM #68:	archedsoul posted... didn't whitewash anything as I said he fucked it up. You said it was out of his control to make it as shitty as it was. --- Sigful User Logic <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:975006180] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>archedsoul posted... </cite><quote>didn't whitewash anything as I said he fucked it up.</quote>You said it was out of his control to make it as shitty as it was. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Son_Of_Spam 07/22/23 7:54:42 PM #69:	TheShadowViper posted... You don't know what Rian was supposed to do with Luke? He could done any number of a thousand things including making him go search for something that would allow him to bring back the jedi order in a new form or any number of quests. Instead Rian went with "this guy went to die on an island while his friends and family were massacred". So Luke would have gone off on a secret mission to save the galaxy but not only decides not to tell Leia about the mission, but also hide his whereabouts from her? That's basically what Holdo did when she hid her plans from Poe but worse. --- 20 years on Gamefaqs, and I still don't have a signature. <cite>Son_Of_Spam posted [p:975006209] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>TheShadowViper posted... </cite><quote>You don't know what Rian was supposed to do with Luke? He could done any number of a thousand things including making him go search for something that would allow him to bring back the jedi order in a new form or any number of quests. Instead Rian went with "this guy went to die on an island while his friends and family were massacred".</quote>So Luke would have gone off on a secret mission to save the galaxy but not only decides not to tell Leia about the mission, but also hide his whereabouts from her? That's basically what Holdo did when she hid her plans from Poe but worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
archedsoul 07/22/23 7:57:11 PM #70:	BurmesePenguin posted... You said it was out of his control to make it as shitty as it was. I didn't say that. I said it was too late by then. It's well known he and his team were on a very tight schedule. Duel of the Fates was basically an entirely different movie. archedsoul posted... they only called him back after Trevorrow was kicked and then was given an extremely tight schedule to do TRoS. That was on Kennedy and Lucasfilm --- "Fear cuts deeper than swords." <cite>archedsoul posted [p:975006241] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>BurmesePenguin posted... </cite><quote>You said it was out of his control to make it as shitty as it was.</quote>I didn't say that. I said it was too late by then. It's well known he and his team were on a very tight schedule. Duel of the Fates was basically an entirely different movie.archedsoul posted... </cite><quote>they only called him back after Trevorrow was kicked and then was given an extremely tight schedule to do TRoS. That was on Kennedy and Lucasfilm</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 07/22/23 8:00:37 PM #71:	If it was too late to do anything but fuck it up more, than he has no guilt in fucking up. --- Sigful User Logic <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:975006301] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>If it was too late to do anything but fuck it up more, than he has no guilt in fucking up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
archedsoul 07/22/23 8:01:58 PM #72:	BurmesePenguin posted... If it was too late to do anything but fuck it up more, than he has no guilt in fucking up. Who knew time constraints and basically repurposing a totally different movie would have had an effect on output. --- "Fear cuts deeper than swords." <cite>archedsoul posted [p:975006334] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>BurmesePenguin posted... </cite><quote>If it was too late to do anything but fuck it up more, than he has no guilt in fucking up.</quote>Who knew time constraints and basically repurposing a totally different movie would have had an effect on output.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 07/22/23 8:09:58 PM #73:	Duel of the Fates sounded better than TROS though. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:975006495] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>Duel of the Fates sounded better than TROS though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
radical_rhino 07/22/23 8:27:17 PM #74:	The Last Jedi makes Luke a much more interesting character than the original trilogy. Plus Hamil is a much better actor in TLJ than when he was younger. --- .____ [____]===0 . . . . Ye olde beating stick. <cite>radical_rhino posted [p:975006798] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>The Last Jedi makes Luke a much more interesting character than the original trilogy. Plus Hamil is a much better actor in TLJ than when he was younger.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unknown5uspect 07/22/23 8:29:14 PM #75:	radical_rhino posted... The Last Jedi makes Luke a much more interesting character than the original trilogy. Plus Hamil is a much better actor in TLJ than when he was younger. But no he's completely ruined because Luke would never! --- #EatTheRich <cite>Unknown5uspect posted [p:975006829] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>radical_rhino posted... </cite><quote>The Last Jedi makes Luke a much more interesting character than the original trilogy. Plus Hamil is a much better actor in TLJ than when he was younger.</quote>But no he's completely ruined because Luke would never!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 07/22/23 8:30:56 PM #76:	People who hate TLJ tend to hate ROS. People who like TLJ tend to hate ROS. It has more people who hate it. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Save Star trek prodigy <cite>creativerealms posted [p:975006855] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>People who hate TLJ tend to hate ROS. People who like TLJ tend to hate ROS. It has more people who hate it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bleuets 07/22/23 8:37:51 PM #77:	TLJ was the worst movie of the entire franchise. <cite>Bleuets posted [p:975006968] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>TLJ was the worst movie of the entire franchise. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/22/23 8:38:24 PM #78:	Unknown5uspect posted... But no he's completely ruined because Luke would never! Hamill himself says it's a fucking garbage interpretation there's no need to defend it --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:975006978] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>Unknown5uspect posted... </cite><quote>But no he's completely ruined because Luke would never!</quote>Hamill himself says it's a fucking garbage interpretation there's no need to defend it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperskate65 07/22/23 8:44:28 PM #79:	John Boyega says lots of things. Most of them equally as ridiculous as the last. --- his comparison suggests we're closet african americans. PSN BlahblahUnicornx <cite>hyperskate65 posted [p:975007100] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>John Boyega says lots of things. Most of them equally as ridiculous as the last. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMelodramatic 07/22/23 8:52:56 PM #80:	TLJ was the second or third BEST movie in the franchise, and did tons of great things that actually made the sequels interesting. JJ not only has a track record of beginning plot points he cant finish, but also totally shit the bed at making a satisfying conclusion to the saga. Of course ultimately KK and Disney execs are to blame for putting money and deadlines over a thought-out story, but there is no denying RoS was the worst film in the series and totally ruined everything that was builds up to that point. --- Forever Momo; Always EPic <cite>MrMelodramatic posted [p:975007259] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>TLJ was the second or third BEST movie in the franchise, and did tons of great things that actually made the sequels interesting. JJ not only has a track record of beginning plot points he cant finish, but also totally shit the bed at making a satisfying conclusion to the saga. Of course ultimately KK and Disney execs are to blame for putting money and deadlines over a thought-out story, but there is no denying RoS was the worst film in the series and totally ruined everything that was builds up to that point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 07/22/23 8:54:55 PM #81:	radical_rhino posted... The Last Jedi makes Luke a much more interesting character than the original trilogy. Plus Hamil is a much better actor in TLJ than when he was younger. What is interesting about a sad sack of shit who let billions die and played the order that rules he did not follow. hyperskate65 posted... John Boyega says lots of things. Most of them equally as ridiculous as the last. And yet so many people agree with him on this. What other ridiculous thing have he said to you? --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:975007301] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>radical_rhino posted... </cite><quote>The Last Jedi makes Luke a much more interesting character than the original trilogy. Plus Hamil is a much better actor in TLJ than when he was younger.</quote>What is interesting about a sad sack of shit who let billions die and played the order that rules he did not follow. hyperskate65 posted... </cite><quote>John Boyega says lots of things. Most of them equally as ridiculous as the last.</quote>And yet so many people agree with him on this. What other ridiculous thing have he said to you? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 07/22/23 8:58:45 PM #82:	TRoS barely qualifies as even a movie. It's more like a string of things just happening with just a bare minimum amount of thread to tie them all together. --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:975007381] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>TRoS barely qualifies as even a movie.It's more like a string of things just happening with just a bare minimum amount of thread to tie them all together.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 07/22/23 9:08:05 PM #83:	CyricZ posted... Boy, I never get tired of "Because of Episode 8, JJ Abrams had no choice but to make a bad Episode 9". Which was always the silliest complaint I've seen about Episode 8. Even though it had some really bad moments, I thought it actually ended in an interesting place. Kylo is even more unhinged and has full control over the entire First Order, uninhibited by Snoke's manipulations. Rey has all of the knowledge and experience she needs to start a new Jedi Order, but without the arrogance that led to their downfall. She also no longer has to carry the baggage of where she comes from. The Resistance has been whittled down to a small army, but with more people awakening to their Force-sensitivity across the galaxy, there's a chance for them to increase their ranks with more Force users. Then JJ said fuck all that and just decided to bring Palpatine back to do a worse version of RotJ --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:975007524] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite><quote>Boy, I never get tired of "Because of Episode 8, JJ Abrams had no choice but to make a bad Episode 9".</quote>Which was always the silliest complaint I've seen about Episode 8.Even though it had some really bad moments, I thought it actually ended in an interesting place.Kylo is even more unhinged and has full control over the entire First Order, uninhibited by Snoke's manipulations. Rey has all of the knowledge and experience she needs to start a new Jedi Order, but without the arrogance that led to their downfall. She also no longer has to carry the baggage of where she comes from. The Resistance has been whittled down to a small army, but with more people awakening to their Force-sensitivity across the galaxy, there's a chance for them to increase their ranks with more Force users.Then JJ said fuck all that and just decided to bring Palpatine back to do a worse version of RotJ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HornyLevel 07/22/23 9:15:43 PM #84:	Both TLJ and TROS were trash. --- Nani?!? <cite>HornyLevel posted [p:975007673] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>Both TLJ and TROS were trash. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 07/22/23 9:17:37 PM #85:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... Then JJ said fuck all that and just decided to bring Palpatine back to do a worse version of RotJ Kylo was not a suitable villain for the third movie, because Johnson ruined Finns potential and forced a ~~romance between Rey and the genocidal mania~~c. So there was no credible threat for the final movie, since they had to keep these Rylos happy. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:975007697] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite><quote>Then JJ said fuck all that and just decided to bring Palpatine back to do a worse version of RotJ</quote>Kylo was not a suitable villain for the third movie, because Johnson ruined Finns potential and forced a romance between Rey and the genocidal maniac. So there was no credible threat for the final movie, since they had to keep these Rylos happy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Incredible 07/22/23 9:19:47 PM #86:	That part where ~~Leia randomly starts flying~~ was so fucking corny. Since when ~~can the Force let you do that~~? And people actually defended that bullshit. --- Hard work pays off <cite>Incredible posted [p:975007735] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>That part where Leia randomly starts flying was so fucking corny.Since when can the Force let you do that? And people actually defended that bullshit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 07/22/23 9:22:19 PM #87:	cjsdowg posted... Kylo was not a suitable villain for the third movie, because Johnson ruined Finns potential and forced a ~~romance between Rey and the genocidal mania~~c. So there was no credible threat for the final movie, since they had to keep these Rylos happy. This is pure nonsense. Kylo is pretty cleanly and definitively a villain by the end of TLJ. Just because they have other characters sympathize for him doesn't change this fact. And where is the romance? One of the last scenes of the movie is ~~Rey trying and failing to redeem Kylo.~~ --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:975007780] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>Kylo was not a suitable villain for the third movie, because Johnson ruined Finns potential and forced a romance between Rey and the genocidal maniac. So there was no credible threat for the final movie, since they had to keep these Rylos happy.</quote>This is pure nonsense.Kylo is pretty cleanly and definitively a villain by the end of TLJ. Just because they have other characters sympathize for him doesn't change this fact.And where is the romance? One of the last scenes of the movie is Rey trying and failing to redeem Kylo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 07/22/23 9:22:54 PM #88:	Incredible posted... That part where ~~Leia randomly starts flying~~ was so fucking corny. Since when ~~can the Force let you do that~~? And people actually defended that bullshit. EU literally had Luke create black holes with the Force and nobody cared then --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:975007792] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>Incredible posted... </cite><quote>That part where Leia randomly starts flying was so fucking corny.Since when can the Force let you do that? And people actually defended that bullshit.</quote>EU literally had Luke create black holes with the Force and nobody cared then</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HornyLevel 07/22/23 9:24:16 PM #89:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... EU literally had Luke create black holes with the Force and nobody cared then When did this happen? Sounds like BS. --- Nani?!? <cite>HornyLevel posted [p:975007814] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite><quote>EU literally had Luke create black holes with the Force and nobody cared then</quote>When did this happen? Sounds like BS.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Destroyer53 07/22/23 9:27:27 PM #90:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... EU literally had Luke create black holes with the Force and nobody cared then The Emperor created black holes in the EU. Luke didn't <cite>Destroyer53 posted [p:975007871] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite><quote>EU literally had Luke create black holes with the Force and nobody cared then</quote>The Emperor created black holes in the EU. Luke didn't </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GATTJT 07/22/23 9:29:16 PM #91:	Incredible posted... That part where ~~Leia randomly starts flying~~ was so fucking corny. Since when ~~can the Force let you do that~~? And people actually defended that bullshit. Super speed, choking someone through a video connection, and projecting an image of yourself across the galaxy are a-okay, but flying? That's where we draw the line, Johnson! --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/gamerfanfan/wishlist <cite>GATTJT posted [p:975007900] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>Incredible posted... </cite><quote>That part where Leia randomly starts flying was so fucking corny.Since when can the Force let you do that? And people actually defended that bullshit.</quote>Super speed, choking someone through a video connection, and projecting an image of yourself across the galaxy are a-okay, but flying? That's where we draw the line, Johnson!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 07/22/23 9:32:05 PM #92:	Destroyer53 posted... The Emperor created black holes in the EU. Luke didn't My bad got them mixed up lol. Still, that's far from the only crazy feat that's been done through the Force in Star Wars lore --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:975007947] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>Destroyer53 posted... </cite><quote>The Emperor created black holes in the EU. Luke didn't</quote>My bad got them mixed up lol.Still, that's far from the only crazy feat that's been done through the Force in Star Wars lore</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dancing_cactuar 07/22/23 9:32:40 PM #93:	cjsdowg posted... Kylo was not a suitable villain for the third movie, because Johnson ruined Finns potential and forced a ~~romance between Rey and the genocidal maniac~~. For me Kylo wasn't a suitable villain for the third movie because at that point the dude was such a pathetic joke of a villain. Good fucking luck running the First Order when one of the establishing moments in the first movie was the character throwing a literal temper tantrum and the first time we see him in this movie was the character getting reamed out by his boss for being so incompetent. --- Believing that Disney movies are for families is akin to buying into Nazi propaganda- LoyalToTheGame PS5s have liquid metal tech like the T-1000- AceCombatX <cite>dancing_cactuar posted [p:975007957] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>Kylo was not a suitable villain for the third movie, because Johnson ruined Finns potential and forced a romance between Rey and the genocidal maniac.</quote>For me Kylo wasn't a suitable villain for the third movie because at that point the dude was such a pathetic joke of a villain. Good fucking luck running the First Order when one of the establishing moments in the first movie was the character throwing a literal temper tantrum and the first time we see him in this movie was the character getting reamed out by his boss for being so incompetent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 07/22/23 9:45:08 PM #94:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... And where is the romance? https://screenrant.com/last-jedi-rey-kylo-ren-romance-relationship/ Johnson said it was here. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:975008133] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite><quote>And where is the romance?</quote>https://screenrant.com/last-jedi-rey-kylo-ren-romance-relationship/Johnson said it was here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 07/22/23 9:46:38 PM #95:	A_Good_Boy posted... pulls up a chair You got an extra one? --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:975008149] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>A_Good_Boy posted... </cite><quote>pulls up a chair</quote>You got an extra one?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 07/22/23 10:32:21 PM #96:	I love how we have a mystical energy field that we'll never fully understand and allows for incredible mystical feats to occur. Someone does something different with it. And people are like "you can't do that with the mystical energy field!" Like have you guys never heard of this thing called fiction? --- CyricZ He/him http://twitch.tv/cyricz42 <cite>CyricZ posted [p:975008902] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>I love how we have a mystical energy field that we'll never fully understand and allows for incredible mystical feats to occur.Someone does something different with it.And people are like "you can't do that with the mystical energy field!"Like have you guys never heard of this thing called fiction?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 07/22/23 10:45:46 PM #97:	CyricZ posted... I love how we have a mystical energy field that we'll never fully understand and allows for incredible mystical feats to occur. Someone does something different with it. And people are like "you can't do that with the mystical energy field!" Like have you guys never heard of this thing called fiction? The arguments that Rey shouldn't be so good because she wasn't trained was so weird. It's a magic force that's limited by belief and will. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:975009100] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite><quote>I love how we have a mystical energy field that we'll never fully understand and allows for incredible mystical feats to occur.Someone does something different with it.And people are like "you can't do that with the mystical energy field!"Like have you guys never heard of this thing called fiction?</quote>The arguments that Rey shouldn't be so good because she wasn't trained was so weird. It's a magic force that's limited by belief and will. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 07/22/23 10:59:19 PM #98:	Punished_Blinx posted... The arguments that Rey shouldn't be so good because she wasn't trained was so weird. It's a magic force that's limited by belief and will. And the writer. --- CyricZ He/him http://twitch.tv/cyricz42 <cite>CyricZ posted [p:975009292] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>Punished_Blinx posted... </cite><quote>The arguments that Rey shouldn't be so good because she wasn't trained was so weird. It's a magic force that's limited by belief and will.</quote>And the writer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 07/22/23 11:05:26 PM #99:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] TLJ is at the very least better than the unmitigated trainwreck that was TRoS, but I do agree that it ain't worth arguing over. And I don't blame Boyega for hating TLJ and thinking it's the worst. Movie did him dirty something fierce. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read https://imgur.com/1WshTZu - by DB_Insider https://imgur.com/eW67nT8 - by Wii_Shaker <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:975009363] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> TLJ is at the very least better than the unmitigated trainwreck that was TRoS, but I do agree that it ain't worth arguing over.And I don't blame Boyega for hating TLJ and thinking it's the worst. Movie did him dirty something fierce.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 07/22/23 11:18:32 PM #100:	CyricZ posted... Like have you guys never heard of this thing called fiction? The handling of Leia's return to the ship in TLJ was quite odd. Firstly, despite surviving the explosion, her body was thrust out of the ship and into space, which logically should have meant that she would continue drifting away. Moreover, we see her freeze over, indicating the cold of the vacuum of space. Then, we witness her ship still moving forward at a high speed, just not lightspeed, while Leia somehow manages to use her power to halt her own motion and catch up with the ship. While having such extraordinary power is acceptable, the issue arises from this power never being addressed again in the movie. If she possesses such abilities, it seems odd that she doesn't utilize them in other critical situations, like facing down adversaries. The speed that she has to be going to do with would be beyond the speed of sound . She is moving like Quicksilver. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:975009527] in John Boyeg... [t:80516207]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite><quote>Like have you guys never heard of this thing called fiction?</quote>The handling of Leia's return to the ship in TLJ was quite odd. Firstly, despite surviving the explosion, her body was thrust out of the ship and into space, which logically should have meant that she would continue drifting away. Moreover, we see her freeze over, indicating the cold of the vacuum of space.Then, we witness her ship still moving forward at a high speed, just not lightspeed, while Leia somehow manages to use her power to halt her own motion and catch up with the ship. While having such extraordinary power is acceptable, the issue arises from this power never being addressed again in the movie. If she possesses such abilities, it seems odd that she doesn't utilize them in other critical situations, like facing down adversaries. The speed that she has to be going to do with would be beyond the speed of sound . She is moving like Quicksilver. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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