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Enclave
07/28/23 3:30:09 AM
#102:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
Trunks and Goten never age apparently.

They actually did recently.

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Gobstoppers12
07/28/23 3:38:55 AM
#103:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
I dunno. The final villain of GT just had such great lore behind him. Such a waste imo.
Omega Shenron always made me angry, to be honest. Why would you ruin the magic of the series by making the dragon balls some kind of world-ending ticking time bomb?

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sou
07/28/23 4:22:59 AM
#104:


Gwynevere posted...
Also what the fuck at people saying to skip movies like Bojack Unbound and Fusion Reborn
I assume ppl say that mainly b/c majority of the movies don't match with the main timeline regardless of quality.
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cuttin_in_farm
07/28/23 5:06:09 AM
#105:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Omega Shenron always made me angry, to be honest. Why would you ruin the magic of the series by making the dragon balls some kind of world-ending ticking time bomb?

From a story perspective, the end boss being because of the overuse of the titular dragon balls is brilliant.

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Dark_Arbron
07/28/23 5:07:43 AM
#106:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
From a story perspective, the end boss being because of the overuse of the titular dragon balls is brilliant.

This.

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Gobstoppers12
07/28/23 5:53:06 AM
#107:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
From a story perspective, the end boss being because of the overuse of the titular dragon balls is brilliant.
Extremely strong disagree.

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sou
07/28/23 6:12:36 AM
#108:


I don't remember much about GT, but how overused were the dragon balls for humanity to deserve punishment?
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Foppe
07/28/23 6:59:27 AM
#109:


sou posted...
I don't remember much about GT, but how overused were the dragon balls for humanity to deserve punishment?
*looks at Bulmas wishes in Super*

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Sheiky-Baby
07/28/23 7:01:30 AM
#110:


Watch Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Kai. Skip GT and Super for now.

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07/28/23 9:27:25 AM
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AP3Brain
07/28/23 2:13:36 PM
#111:


Do not skip Super. I don't know what some of these guys are on but it's great. Not perfect of course but ultra instinct was an amazing add and the last tournament was fun.

My only real problem with Super was the main "bad guy" ...Jiren? He was just such a forgettable character despite being so powerful. Barely any backstory and he barely says anything.
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Ivany2008
07/28/23 3:27:21 PM
#112:


Foppe posted...
*looks at Bulmas wishes in Super*

and from that perspective.... I kind of feel like they are building towards a GT reboot at some point in the future. At some point they lose their god powers and the blackstar dragonballs are created.
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A_Good_Boy
07/28/23 4:59:04 PM
#113:


Dark_Arbron posted...
what real stakes are there in Super?
There are no stakes in Super and we already know that because Super takes place in the brief time period between the end of the Buu saga and the tenkaichi tournament that Goku met Uub for the first time at the end of Z. So there's no point in watching Super with the expectation of their being a sense of danger or scale to any of the conflicts because we already know the ending, cause it's the ending we've already seen in DBZ.

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Prestoff
07/28/23 5:00:08 PM
#114:


Turbam posted...
All of it


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Gobstoppers12
07/28/23 6:07:04 PM
#115:


A_Good_Boy posted...
There are no stakes in Super
You can't really say this, though. Trunks' whole timeline was wiped out.

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deoxxys
07/28/23 6:11:44 PM
#116:


There's definitely steak in super
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pedro45
07/28/23 6:21:43 PM
#117:


A_Good_Boy posted...
There are no stakes in Super and we already know that because Super takes place in the brief time period between the end of the Buu saga and the tenkaichi tournament that Goku met Uub for the first time at the end of Z. So there's no point in watching Super with the expectation of their being a sense of danger or scale to any of the conflicts because we already know the ending, cause it's the ending we've already seen in DBZ.

Exactly. Any stakes are created and destroyed in that story, like all the universes

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LeCh0nk
07/28/23 6:40:33 PM
#118:


There are no stakes in Z either. Because they have these magical wish granting balls. And if those don't work, they pull an even stronger set of dragon balls out their ass and fix everything.

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superman_2000
07/28/23 6:58:10 PM
#119:


OG has a rough start, but gets better when the series finds its footing as an action series with comedic moments (as opposed to a comedy with some action)

Z has great nostalgic value, but honestly if you didn't grow up on it then you might find it pretty lackluster. Saiyan through Namek saga is the peak. Android/Cell saga is downhill in terms of storytelling, and characters become notably dumber for the sake of plot. Boo saga has a strong start but becomes a hot mess as things progress, with characters still being conveniently foolish just to advance the plot. Overall, I'd give the series a C without the benefit of nostalgia.

GT is pretty bad. It initially tries to emulate the adventuring aspect of OG, but doesn't quite stick the landing to say the least. The rest is basically dime-store DBZ, but for all its faults it ends on a very emotionally effective note.

Super is pure flash, and very obviously made to milk the legacy of the series and capitalize on nostalgia. By far the most "turn your brain off and enjoy the flashy colors" iteration of the series.

Those are my opinions, anyway.

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SpiritSephiroth
07/28/23 7:05:11 PM
#120:


A_Good_Boy posted...
There are no stakes in Super and we already know that because Super takes place in the brief time period between the end of the Buu saga and the tenkaichi tournament that Goku met Uub for the first time at the end of Z. So there's no point in watching Super with the expectation of their being a sense of danger or scale to any of the conflicts because we already know the ending, cause it's the ending we've already seen in DBZ.

Imagine still thinking that part of DBZ is canon at this point lol.

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PraetorXyn
07/28/23 8:38:01 PM
#121:


A_Good_Boy posted...
There are no stakes in Super and we already know that because Super takes place in the brief time period between the end of the Buu saga and the tenkaichi tournament that Goku met Uub for the first time at the end of Z. So there's no point in watching Super with the expectation of their being a sense of danger or scale to any of the conflicts because we already know the ending, cause it's the ending we've already seen in DBZ.
I mean, Dragon Ball hasnt really had stakes since Z. The series is literally built around being able to wish everyone killed back to life with magic balls. The only stakes are that if whatever big bad wins, theyll destroy the planet and the balls with them, but everyone will be dead all at once so theres no real reason to care. At least in Dragon Ball and up through the Saiyan Saga, there was the rule that Shenron couldnt revive a person more than once, but after Dende becomes the guardian thats done away with.

Every time an arc is over they can just magic everything back to normal like it never happened. Its always been a series with some of the lowest stakes there are.

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DarthDemented
07/28/23 8:39:04 PM
#122:


Only filler you don't skip is the driving episode. Best filler episode out of all of it.

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Finis-XII
07/29/23 2:08:29 AM
#123:


I'd like to say DB, DBZ, and GT (don't give a shit if it's canon or not, SS4 is cool and the show has enough good moments to make it worthwhile) are all worth watching.

Also anyone saying skip the movies can fuck right off. Fusion Reborn is good. And I also personally loved the Android 13 movie.

This scene right here is probably my favorite.
https://youtu.be/eeZlj97sEC8

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CompatibleGreet
07/29/23 5:19:30 AM
#124:


Finis-XII posted...
I'd like to say DB, DBZ, and GT (don't give a shit if it's canon or not, SS4 is cool and the show has enough good moments to make it worthwhile) are all worth watching.

Also anyone saying skip the movies can fuck right off. Fusion Reborn is good. And I also personally loved the Android 13 movie.

This scene right here is probably my favorite.
https://youtu.be/eeZlj97sEC8
I agree with this. Cooler movie, tree of might and few others were great.

If we're counting specials the history of trunks was also great too.

Bio broly is the one movie thats a skip lmao
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Arcanine2009
07/29/23 5:43:48 AM
#125:


GT ix a mixed bag, but I wouldn't skip it. It's entertaining. It's non canon, but they had some pretty cool sagas, and transformations (golden oozaru, ss4). It's like an alternative timeline to super, except a bit further in the future. They do most of the db cast bad, except Goku and Vegeta.
AP3Brain posted...
Do not skip Super. I don't know what some of these guys are on but it's great. Not perfect of course but ultra instinct was an amazing add and the last tournament was fun.

My only real problem with Super was the main "bad guy" ...Jiren? He was just such a forgettable character despite being so powerful. Barely any backstory and he barely says anything.
He was never a bad guy. Just an adversary in the Tournament of power.


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Dark_Arbron
07/29/23 6:20:30 AM
#126:


LeCh0nk posted...
There are no stakes in Z either. Because they have these magical wish granting balls. And if those don't work, they pull an even stronger set of dragon balls out their ass and fix everything.

Majin Buu was a legitimate threat to the universe. Even the gods at the time were powerless to stop him, unlike in Super where the gods could have stepped in at any time. The dragonballs being used as a reset button is a legit point of criticism for the franchise as a whole, but it's disingenuous to compare Z and Super in that regard. Even GT at least gave its set of omnipotent dragonballs a caveat - one that was both adhered to and given proper closure in the narrative.

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Dark_Arbron
07/29/23 6:24:00 AM
#127:


Arcanine2009 posted...
He was never a bad guy. Just an adversary in the Tournament of power.

That's the problem with that arc. It didn't have a villain. Just an artificial conflict that ultimately meant nothing anyway. It was just a series of cool moments, which fits perfectly with the narrative structure of Super.

Notice how many people are saying "yeah, but Ultra Instinct was cool!" It was. I agree. In the same sense that "Adam Sandler's recent movies are horrible, but a couple of his early movies were great so let's keep giving him a pass!"

There's a limit to the benefit of the doubt.

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07/29/23 7:03:56 AM
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majin_nemesis
07/29/23 7:25:18 AM
#128:


Dark_Arbron posted...
That's the problem with that arc. It didn't have a villain. Just an artificial conflict that ultimately meant nothing anyway. It was just a series of cool moments, which fits perfectly with the narrative structure of Super.

Notice how many people are saying "yeah, but Ultra Instinct was cool!" It was. I agree. In the same sense that "Adam Sandler's recent movies are horrible, but a couple of his early movies were great so let's keep giving him a pass!"

There's a limit to the benefit of the doubt.
it did had a villain and that's zeno and the grand priest who forced a bunch of people to fight for their universe and then murdered the universe who lost

also when did a arc in Z actually meant anything? frieza, cell and buu were just cool fight that happened and everything was back to normal afterwards

also the fights in the tournament of power were awesome we got to see a bunch of new characters and new universes and expand the series,we can have tons of stories and movies based on other universe's characters and history and we haven't see them all yet
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SpiritSephiroth
07/29/23 9:53:33 AM
#130:


Finis-XII posted...
I'd like to say DB, DBZ, and GT (don't give a shit if it's canon or not, SS4 is cool and the show has enough good moments to make it worthwhile) are all worth watching.

Also anyone saying skip the movies can fuck right off. Fusion Reborn is good. And I also personally loved the Android 13 movie.

This scene right here is probably my favorite.
https://youtu.be/eeZlj97sEC8

Holy shit I dont remember this amount of roasting taking place in that movie >_>

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Srk700
07/29/23 11:56:12 AM
#131:


SpiritSephiroth posted...
Holy shit I dont remember this amount of roasting taking place in that movie >_>

I almsot always forget that the "5 dollar haircut" line came from the actual movie itself and not the Team Four Star version.
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superman_2000
07/29/23 12:08:47 PM
#132:


majin_nemesis posted...
it did had a villain and that's zeno and the grand priest who forced a bunch of people to fight for their universe and then murdered the universe who lost

They weren't villains in the traditional sense though; they were treated more so as forces of nature that simply called the shots. They weren't cool, intimidating, memorable bad guys that the heroes actually had to defeat.

also when did a arc in Z actually meant anything? frieza, cell and buu were just cool fight that happened and everything was back to normal afterwards

The events on Namek resulted in Vegeta becoming a mainstay, and Goku & friends having new allies in the form of the Namekians.

The events of the Cell saga resulted in Goku's death, 18 becoming a mainstay, and Kami essentially ceasing to exist as his own character.

Boo was meant to be the end of the series, so it makes sense for things to end on the happiest note there.

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AP3Brain
07/29/23 4:01:22 PM
#133:


Arcanine2009 posted...
He was never a bad guy. Just an adversary in the Tournament of power.
Yeah but he was like the final main adversary yet barely spoke a word. Didn't even really get a sense of how powerful he really was.
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xlr_big-coop
07/29/23 4:14:44 PM
#134:


Just watch Z and ignore the rest.

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deoxxys
07/29/23 7:06:46 PM
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