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AloneIBreak 07/26/23 7:30:54 PM #1: |
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COVxy 07/26/23 7:33:45 PM #2: |
Is that the one where Skinner wasn't Skinner? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Noname12 07/26/23 7:34:56 PM #3: |
Isnt this the episode where Homer keeps asking why is x in the car lmao --- Darkprince45 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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refmon 07/26/23 7:35:41 PM #4: |
It really was the beginning of the end for the Simpsons --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crimsoness 07/26/23 7:35:42 PM #5: |
Armin Tamzarian --- She/her Dynamite with a laser beam ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BurmesePenguin 07/26/23 7:36:51 PM #6: |
It's an extremely offensive episode that if it had not been unofficially sent to banworld by the writing team would have been cancerous to the health of the series. The quality of the jokes are irrelevant. --- Sigful User Logic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smiffwilm 07/26/23 7:36:51 PM #7: |
In a bubble it's not bad. It's hated because audiences finally clued in that the classic Simpsons era was indeed changing. 'Skinner' saying "Up yours, children!" is pretty funny. --- My Mario Maker 2 ID is 6RG-5XK-JCG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thekosmicfool 07/26/23 7:39:37 PM #8: |
I think it was a great episode and never understood the controversy. --- Cover your knees up if you're gonna be walkin' around everywhere. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AloneIBreak 07/26/23 7:40:38 PM #9: |
COVxy posted... Is that the one where Skinner wasn't Skinner? Noname12 posted... Isnt this the episode where Homer keeps asking why is x in the car lmaoYes. BurmesePenguin posted... It's an extremely offensive episode that if it had not been unofficially sent to banworld by the writing team would have been cancerous to the health of the series. The quality of the jokes are irrelevant.Offensive how? --- "Never confuse education with intelligence, you can have a PhD and still be an idiot." -Richard Feynman ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kingdrake2 07/26/23 7:40:54 PM #10: |
it brought back memories of being allergic to shrimp and peanuts :(. i cant consume them or i'll need my pen. without the pen i'm screwed. --- beware of the chun-li ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PMarth2002 07/26/23 7:40:58 PM #11: |
It wasn't one of my favorites, but I liked it. --- When money talks for the very last time, and nobody walks a step behind When there's only one race, and that's mankind, then we shall be free ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shadowplay 07/26/23 8:05:15 PM #12: |
Leagues ahead of the crap that would follow. --- I make a topic in Final Fantasy 12 to ask if Tifa! They said no Tifa. Hardness gone!-gandob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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haloiscoolisbak 07/26/23 8:37:03 PM #13: |
A funny episode amongst a season of quality The complete change of Skinner's character and past is weird but it's still classic Simpsons to me Saddlesore Galactica I think is a better example of a turning point for the show. The land of the jockeys segment was something so out there you'd only have seen it in a Halloween episode prior. Also, it's just not that funny --- Started from the bottom now we here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heartomaton 07/26/23 8:39:10 PM #14: |
No part of The Simpsons is as bad as loud nerds say it is. --- https://www.youtube.com/user/Heartomaton Heartomaton for President 2028. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-Unowninator- 07/26/23 8:40:49 PM #15: |
kingdrake2 posted... it brought back memories of being allergic to shrimp and peanuts :(. Wrong episode --- Not changing this signature until I think of a better one. Stated 8/26/2021 Join the unknown: http://goo.gl/S75cmn ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_____Cait 07/26/23 8:45:20 PM #16: |
Why does it matter? It doesnt change anything in the series, and for those who know, they see some extra depth to Seymour. People hate EVERYTHING that changes the status quo in the series. Maude dying, Barney drinking, Lisa becoming vegan, Apu (this guy for some reason seems to have the most continuity). But nobody hates any real character assassination moments, like where Bart gets AdHD or whatever, the entire town banning children, Flanders having a ONS with a celebrity, etc. Granted, these are from the zombie seasons, but still. --- ORAS secret base: http://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 07/26/23 8:57:41 PM #17: |
Nope. People take it way too seriously. They literally return to how things were at the end of the episode. Like thats part of the joke. --- You should never let Earl drive. . . ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShineboxPhil 07/26/23 8:58:34 PM #18: |
Crimsoness posted... Armin Tamzarian So is he Armenian? --- Vegas Golden Knights, Denver Nuggets, Houston Astros, Kansas City Chiefs, Manchester City #1 Fan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 07/26/23 8:59:51 PM #19: |
I don't watch Simpsons but I hear about this one all the time so I looked into it and it seems like a harmless joke. So Principal Skinner remains Principal Skinner and it's basically never referenced again in subsequent episodes. Who cares --- Let's all please just get along. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnsteadyOwl 07/26/23 9:05:12 PM #21: |
I think people just wanted something to seize on as a dividing line between good and bad Simpsons. The decline in quality after the golden era was a gradual thing, and even after that there have been ups and downs. But that's not as good a story as "The episode that killed The Simpsons!" --- "It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Proto_Spark 07/26/23 9:09:14 PM #22: |
I think if they had actually stuck with it, it would be remembered better. Its a great character change for Skinner and gave a completely different perspective on how he interacts with Bart and his "mother". You don't really need to change anything for his character going forward (besides his name, maybe something not as stupid as Armin Tamzarian) or Agnes, or anyone interacting with him, and he can still stay principal. But to make such a huge shift in the world of The Simpsons, only to reneg on it by the end of the episode told fans it wasn't really worth trying to get invested in the show anymore. The show normally didn't touch the status quo like that, but when they did it stuck. Milhouse's parents stayed divorced for like 10 years, Apu got married and had children, they mention Homer went to space every now and then. But this one was saying "lol nvm this was stupid anyways". I think there's only been one episode in the like 25 years since that episode that even mentions Skinners childhood (apparently fetus-Skinner kicks while Agnes is olympic pole vaulting which causes her to lose the medal, and has always bitterly blamed him for it). And honestly, its funnier that Agnes holds so much resentment to Skinner for something that literally wasn't even him. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MC_BatCommander 07/26/23 9:21:27 PM #23: |
It definitely gets a lot of unnecessary hate imo It's not like the show had a deeply detailed continuity, and the writers always said in commentaries that they didn't care at all about maintaining continuity. Especially so if it made for a funny joke. I'd watch it over that awful season 10 episode with Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger any day --- The Legend is True! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AloneIBreak 07/26/23 10:41:15 PM #24: |
MC_BatCommander posted... It definitely gets a lot of unnecessary hate imoI dont really remember that one either. Honestly looking back, I wonder if late 90s-ish is when I stopped watching The Simpsons regularly. I hope there are some gems I havent seen yet. --- "Never confuse education with intelligence, you can have a PhD and still be an idiot." -Richard Feynman ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hayame_Zero 07/26/23 10:43:01 PM #25: |
Fun fact: the agreed upon worst episode by fans and critics until that one came out was Homerpalooza. --- ...I think I'm done here... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tenaku 07/26/23 11:05:02 PM #26: |
Were there any future episodes afterwards that referenced Skinner's backstory in the army? I can't remember any. Did they connect with his Armin Tamzarian backstory in any way? Also, out of all the things in this episode that upsets anybody, it wasn't the change in Skinner's past that upset me the most. It was Skinner's relationship with his mother. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heartomaton 07/26/23 11:09:39 PM #27: |
https://youtu.be/6rxdhKRODLw --- https://www.youtube.com/user/Heartomaton Heartomaton for President 2028. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 07/26/23 11:19:47 PM #28: |
A spoof of a "gaming changing episode" which doesn't actually change anything is still a "game changing episode" which doesn't actually change anything. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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leafsRULE 07/26/23 11:33:23 PM #29: |
it was a great episode. i had no idea it got hate --- leafs rule, your favourite team drules ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Serious_Cat 07/27/23 12:19:26 AM #30: |
It was funny. Saddlesore Galactica was the first irredeemably bad episode. --- I are Serious Cat This is serious thread ... Copied to Clipboard!
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K181 07/27/23 12:22:13 AM #31: |
https://youtu.be/I-TS-92KVDA tl;dnw - while the episode wasnt remotely as bad as most of what followed, and while it even had good moments of its own, the episode in question stands as a definitive wtf moment where it was clear that the writers had stopped caring about the ancillary characters and the connections that they had made with fans and was a pretty clearly definitive cutting off point for borderline perfect seasons of its golden era to its long, long decline and stagnation. All the more notable, as something I didnt even realize until just now, but my favorite episode, The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson, was the literal previous episode to The Principal and the Pauper. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShineboxPhil 07/27/23 12:32:33 AM #32: |
It's still way better than that infamous lady gaga episode --- Vegas Golden Knights, Denver Nuggets, Houston Astros, Kansas City Chiefs, Manchester City #1 Fan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thekosmicfool 07/27/23 12:40:32 AM #33: |
MC_BatCommander posted... I'd watch it over that awful season 10 episode with Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger any day aw man I like that one too. --- Cover your knees up if you're gonna be walkin' around everywhere. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Red_XIV 07/27/23 12:44:44 AM #34: |
ShineboxPhil posted... It's still way better than that infamous lady gaga episodeWhich itself is still better than the Musk episode. (In the sense that a pile of shit is "better" than an even bigger pile of shit.) --- "We will end our resilience for bad things." "We have pioneered the fatality rate." More brilliant insights from Donald Chump ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Target 07/27/23 1:02:56 AM #35: |
As a 7 year old when the episode aired, i though it was funny. I even enjoyed all the upcoming episodes in the next 2 seasons. The first episode I didn't like was Kill the Alligator and Run --- https://imgur.com/JXxiPHm https://imgur.com/JXxiPHm ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GGuirao13 07/27/23 2:48:31 AM #36: |
You are all hereby sentenced to torture! --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hayame_Zero 07/27/23 8:45:25 AM #37: |
Heartomaton posted... No part of The Simpsons is as bad as loud nerds say it is.I watched the entire series when Disney+ launched, and most of it was just mediocre at worst. There was very little that was outright awful. And the Lady Gaga episode wasn't even that bad. And as mentioned before, Elon was the worst guest star. It's probably the most uninterested performance I've ever heard. --- ...I think I'm done here... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lucariopikmin 07/27/23 8:53:11 AM #38: |
Tenaku posted... Were there any future episodes afterwards that referenced Skinner's backstory in the army? I can't remember any. Did they connect with his Armin Tamzarian backstory in any way?His real name has been dropped like twice maybe but that's it iirc. --- 3DS FC: 2380-2873-6073 Sun IGN: Evelyn Sword IGN: Fiora ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Proto_Spark 07/27/23 11:12:53 AM #39: |
Red_XIV posted... Which itself is still better than the Musk episode. (In the sense that a pile of shit is "better" than an even bigger pile of shit.) At least the Lady Gaga episode attempted to have like, an episode around being a shameless celebrity puff-piece. Everything in the Musk episode has to fall apart because there's nothing there beyond trying to jerk Elon off. Also, Lady Gaga at least appears to be a more likeable celebrity, while Musk has spent basically every minute since that Simpsons episode actively tanking that reputation he used to have when nobody paid much attention to him. lucariopikmin posted... His real name has been dropped like twice maybe but that's it iirc. There's even a late tier episode that literally states Skinner is Agnes' child, given it tries to say a major part of their whole dynamic is Skinner's fetus kicking at a bad time during Agnes' pregnancy. But they basically never really go much into Skinner's backstory anymore, probably to avoid this exact issue. Which missed the really funny twist of "Skinner and his mom's dynamic is over something that literally wasn't even Skinner" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Will_VIIII 07/27/23 11:15:17 AM #40: |
Behind the Laughter was the episode where I stopped watching regularly --- Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ROBANN_88 07/27/23 11:23:55 AM #41: |
wait, there's an Elon Musk episode? --- Kremlin delenda est ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WilliamPorygon 07/27/23 11:35:42 AM #42: |
ROBANN_88 posted... wait, there's an Elon Musk episode?Yes, and if there was any justice in the world it would be the banned episode instead of the Michael Jackson episode --- Dolphins are people too! https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1404-cetacea-cove ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterpug53 07/27/23 11:52:49 AM #43: |
In a bubble it's a funny, decent episode. If you have any investment in the characters (Skinner's one of my favorite characters), it's kind of a slap in the face. For instance, one of Skinner's recurring character traits was his time as a POW, but PatP likely erases that (since he returned home from 'Nam to deliver news to Agnes that her son had died; if he'd spent any time as a POW, Agnes would've been notified long before Skinner was able to return home). --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read https://imgur.com/1WshTZu - by DB_Insider https://imgur.com/eW67nT8 - by Wii_Shaker ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hyperpowder 07/27/23 12:15:58 PM #44: |
MC_BatCommander posted...
I love that episode --- Whoever beats my score I will give them a $10 PSN or Live card: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpiorAx40GY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hayame_Zero 07/27/23 12:17:26 PM #45: |
ROBANN_88 posted... wait, there's an Elon Musk episode?Yeah, it's a weird parody of the David Bowie movie The Man Who Fell to Earth. --- ...I think I'm done here... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InTheEyesOfFire 07/27/23 12:35:24 PM #46: |
hyperpowder posted... I love that episode Homer! Were out of vodka! --- "Oh man would you just shut up already, how come all you sword guys have to talk about how cool your swords are?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 07/28/23 6:57:29 AM #47: |
Heartomaton posted... No part of The Simpsons is as bad as loud nerds say it is.This is what Ive been saying for years. I hate how much it became a thing to say The Simpsons is bad now when its really not. It sure as hell isnt as good as those first eight years or so, but its still completely watchable. And the funny thing is, the last good season keeps moving up. Used to be that season 8 was the the last good season but Ive been seeing up to like 15 or 16 --- You should never let Earl drive. . . ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EyeWontBeFooled 07/28/23 7:03:44 AM #48: |
Heartomaton posted... No part of The Simpsons is as bad as loud nerds say it is.Simpsons Theory just posted a video about how Modern Simpsons (or at least the past 4-5 years) aren't nearly as bad as the series has been made to be. --- Resident Shiny Hunter of CE 307 Shinys and counting! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DnDer 07/28/23 7:06:15 AM #49: |
UnsteadyOwl posted... I think people just wanted something to seize on as a dividing line between good and bad Simpsons. Read an essay once that said there's a dividing line between sweet and dumb Homer and mean and stupid Homer. They had actual terms for it that I can't remember, or I'd link it. But there came a point where Homer stopped being someone who learns and someone who's just spiteful or the butt of the spite. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YellowSUV 07/28/23 9:15:15 AM #50: |
The Elon Musk episode aired in early 2015 (and was probably made in early 2014). At that time Musk had a much better reputation and was well liked by most people. --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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