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Bio1590
07/29/23 11:58:14 AM
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https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-profits-drop-by-95-percent-3351038/

In the first quarter of the year, Samsung reported 95% decline in year-over-year earnings. Fast forward to today and it appears Samsung finds itself in the same hole for the second consecutive quarter.

Today, the Korean tech giant posted its Q2 2023 financial results, and it�s not pretty. According to the report, the company once again saw a 95% decline in year-over-year profits. It appears Samsung brought in a profit of 0.67 trillion ($523.5 million) Korean won (KRW), which is a drop in the bucket to the 14.12 trillion KRW ($11.06 billion) it made last year.

Samsung attributes this loss in profit to the decline in smartphone shipments due to �high interest rates and inflation.� As a report from Counterpoint Research suggests, the US smartphone market fell by 24% year-on-year in Q2 2023. Samsung, in particular, saw a 37% yearly decline in shipments, giving it 23% of the total US market.

Something else that doesn�t seem to bode well is the fact that Samsung believes the boost that came from the launch of the Galaxy S23 series has faded.

However, it�s not all doom and gloom. The manufacturer highlights the launch of the Galaxy Z Flip 5 and Galaxy Z Fold 5. It also believes that the smartphone market will make a return.

Samsung has high hopes for its two foldables. In a Google translated quote from TM Roh, the head of Samsung�s mobile division states that he believes the company will sell �one out of three Galaxy flagship smartphones in Korea this year as a foldable.� He also says, �global foldable sales will exceed 20% of all Galaxy flagships.�

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PraetorXyn
07/29/23 12:02:54 PM
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They only made $523 million, boohoo.

On a side not, get rid of that shitty Galaxy Store.

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EnterTheTekken
07/29/23 12:05:12 PM
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Bring back microSD slots.

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Bio1590
07/29/23 12:05:25 PM
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PraetorXyn posted...
They only made $523 million, boohoo.
That is a very small number considering how many different categories Samsung sells products in.

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Noname12
07/29/23 12:10:48 PM
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Because chads are using iPhones

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pretzelcoatl
07/29/23 12:13:58 PM
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They discontinued the Note, got rid of micro SD slots on the phones.

Their tablets are excellent, but I'm probably not getting another Samsung phone after my Note 10+ kicks the bucket.
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HeroFlyChao
07/29/23 12:16:12 PM
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So is the smartphone market down just because economic climate reasons, or is there something deeper here as to why? You dont just lose nearly 1/4 of a market size over a quarter for no reason, or seasonal changes.

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PraetorXyn
07/29/23 12:20:35 PM
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HeroFlyChao posted...
So is the smartphone market down just because economic climate reasons, or is there something deeper here as to why? You dont just lose nearly 1/4 of a market size over a quarter for no reason, or seasonal changes.
I would imagine people decided that when they paid $1200+ for a phone, they should hold onto it longer than 2 years.

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AnsestralRecall
07/29/23 12:25:27 PM
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pretzelcoatl posted...
They discontinued the Note

They only did for a year. The Galaxy Sxx Ultra is now the Note equivalent in every way.
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lilORANG
07/29/23 12:30:03 PM
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I switched to a pixel this year bc fuck paying $1000 for a base model phone.

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Bio1590
07/29/23 12:43:34 PM
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HeroFlyChao posted...
So is the smartphone market down just because economic climate reasons, or is there something deeper here as to why? You dont just lose nearly 1/4 of a market size over a quarter for no reason, or seasonal changes.
I have a feeling people are just losing confidence in Samsung as a brand, period.

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ssjevot
07/29/23 12:49:40 PM
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The Galaxy A51 was the only phone I ever had die on me (as in completely stop functioning), and apparently it was a common problem with that phone due to shoddy motherboards. I am using a quite dated Pixel 3 now, but it runs really well.

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Jagr_68
07/29/23 12:52:32 PM
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Stop making fucking phones.

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tankboy
07/29/23 1:02:32 PM
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Their profits can go down 95% literally forever and they will still be profitable.
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Aressar
07/29/23 1:05:48 PM
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In capitalistic terms it means they're basically bankrupt or so they'd believe, probably.

PraetorXyn posted...
I would imagine people decided that when they paid $1200+ for a phone, they should hold onto it longer than 2 years.

Hopefully this.

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UnholyMudcrab
07/29/23 1:14:12 PM
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Jagr_68 posted...
Stop making fucking phones.
Samsung makes literally everything. They basically are the South Korean economy

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TheSuperSilver
07/29/23 1:20:50 PM
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It's due in part to the loss of the Note with their July/August events.

What they should do is release the Galaxy S24 and S24+ ONLY at the start of the new year and the Note 24 (yes, the Note - stop calling it the Ultra. Note has much more brand power) along with the foldables and watches in the summer.

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DepreceV2
07/29/23 1:23:10 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
That is a very small number considering how many different categories Samsung sells products in.

This

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pretzelcoatl
07/29/23 1:36:52 PM
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TheSuperSilver posted...
It's due in part to the loss of the Note with their July/August events.

What they should do is release the Galaxy S24 and S24+ ONLY at the start of the new year and the Note 24 (yes, the Note - stop calling it the Ultra. Note has much more brand power) along with the foldables and watches in the summer.
I think the foldables are a big reason why they are hurting. They are super expensive, we're likely super expensive to develop, and the market for the is EXTREMELY small at the moment. They are probably never recouping R&D costs for that one.
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07/29/23 1:44:20 PM
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EnterTheTekken posted...
Bring back microSD slots.


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Ratchetrockon
07/29/23 1:45:09 PM
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So what should I upgrade to if I have note 9?
I didn't know the note was not a thing anymore. But I like the pen!! I always have sweaty hands (anxiety reason) so I use the pen often

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archedsoul
07/29/23 1:45:55 PM
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You're gonna see smartphone drops in general, but Samsung itself has become a shell of its former self. Too many quality control issues with pretty much all their shit coming out the past couple of years.

Their customer service and support is also absolutely piss poor and leaves too many fucked over obvious flaws like those being denied warranty for their foldable phones over flimsy reasons.

Apple has also been really aggressive with deals in countries like the US and younger people are buying more and more iPhones, but overall, all of Samsung is suffering and not just smartphones.

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Ratchetrockon
07/29/23 1:48:39 PM
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The Samsung TV i have is prob the last Samsung TV Ill ever get. Its still doing ok for my needs as a primary pc screen but it does have some problems with "normal" TV tasks. The apps are sluggish and has frequent disconnection issues compared to the LG that is downstairs. I remember Netflix taking like a min or two to load. Had to factory reset a few times to get it working OK again but this only a temporary solution. Also the past few months it is not automatically connecting to my pc anymore after turning it on. Instead it'll try to load up some app first. i have to actually use my remote to put it on pc input. This wasn't a problem till after a power outage maybe it is a coincidence idk.

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xlr_big-coop
07/29/23 1:49:05 PM
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Ratchetrockon posted...
So what should I upgrade to if I have note 9?
I didn't know the note was not a thing anymore. But I like the pen!! I always have sweaty hands (anxiety reason) so I use the pen often
I also have a note 9 and it runs as well as when I first got it. I wouldn't get rid of it if I were you. Although if you need a rec I'd say any Samsung midrange phone would do, something like the A series or even a pre-owned s22

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ironman2009
07/29/23 2:19:16 PM
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got an s22 ultra. it's so nice i don't think i'll need to upgrade for like 5 years.

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Bass
07/29/23 2:37:11 PM
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Ratchetrockon posted...
So what should I upgrade to if I have note 9?
I didn't know the note was not a thing anymore. But I like the pen!! I always have sweaty hands (anxiety reason) so I use the pen often
S23 Ultra is the new note as already stated in this topic. Yes, it has the pen.

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JuanCarlos1
07/29/23 2:43:35 PM
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Everybody has a phone and a 4k tv already. And with the economic doom and gloom people will hold on them as much as they can. Its still pretty damn incredible to go down 95% in profits.

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PraetorXyn
07/29/23 3:19:59 PM
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Ratchetrockon posted...
The Samsung TV i have is prob the last Samsung TV Ill ever get. Its still doing ok for my needs as a primary pc screen but it does have some problems with "normal" TV tasks. The apps are sluggish and has frequent disconnection issues compared to the LG C1 that is downstairs. I remember Netflix and Amazon video taking like a min or two to load and none of the videos wanted to load. Had to factory reset a few times to get it working OK again but this only a temporary solution. Also the past few months it is not automatically connecting to my pc anymore after turning it on. Instead it'll try to load up some app first. i have to actually use my remote to put it on pc input. This wasn't a problem till after a power outage maybe it is just a coincidence idk.
Smart TV software in general is garbage. Its literally always better to just have a dumb TV connected to an external device thats smart, whether its a PC, Nvidia Shield Pro, Apple TV+, Roku, FireTV, etc.

For the streaming services you arent likely to notice, but if you host your own media with Plex or something, then youll notice that the Plex app built into smart TVs has way less codec support than the ones on external devices, so it forces a transcode a lot.

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CRON
07/29/23 3:21:29 PM
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Samsung should really streamline their mobile product line. They make a shitload of different phones and tablets even though people only really buy their expensive flagships and cheap budget devices. I rarely see anybody even acknowledging the existence of their mid-range phones.

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AldousIsDead
07/29/23 3:23:26 PM
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I'm still rolling an s10+ that has been through the wars. No need to upgrade yet.

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PraetorXyn
07/29/23 3:29:33 PM
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It will get worse for them once the EU forces them to have easily used replaceable batteries again, as thats the main reason people upgrade phones: when the non-replaceable (without a shit ton of hassle, anyway) battery gets too weak.

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AnsestralRecall
07/29/23 4:31:22 PM
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CRON posted...
Samsung should really streamline their mobile product line. They make a shitload of different phones and tablets even though people only really buy their expensive flagships and cheap budget devices. I rarely see anybody even acknowledging the existence of their mid-range phones.

that is absolutely not true, their midrangers are WAAAAAY bigger sellers than their flagships

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07/29/23 4:58:39 PM
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I still have the same Samsung 1080p TV that I bought 10 years ago and it's still going strong

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AnsestralRecall
07/29/23 6:06:25 PM
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when i bought my s9 years ago i got a free samsung tv...it was serviceable, but had one really specific issue

it only had optical audio out, not inherently an issue, but it had a specific type of optical signal that wasn't the standard

so it literally would only work with my ps3, nothing else from our audio setup worked. was fucking miserable.

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Irony
07/29/23 6:07:57 PM
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I love my Note 20 Ultra, but all phones after it have no SD card slot so I'm not looking to downgrade anytime soon.

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KaZooo
07/29/23 6:11:08 PM
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As someone who has a S21 U and would lean to getting another Samsung, I'll admit the casual crowd mostly aspires to have an iPhone, not a Samsung.

I haven't met a single person that said "I hope I can get a Samsung one day!"


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PraetorXyn
07/29/23 6:24:50 PM
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KaZooo posted...
As someone who has a S21 U and would lean to getting another Samsung, I'll admit the casual crowd mostly aspires to have an iPhone, not a Samsung.

I haven't met a single person that said "I hope I can get a Samsung one day!"
I have the same phone, and it really pushes me off that the Galaxy Store even exists. Id be willing to try an iPhone if not for two things:
  1. As far as Im aware, its not really possible to sideloading things on there without jailbreaking, and if you can, Im not aware of an alternative to YouTube ReVanced etc to eliminate YouTube ads on mobile. Thats an absolute requirement for me.
  2. Apple wont support FLAC in the music apps and just give access to that folder properly. To get an equivalent experience on iOS, Id have to plug my phone into my computer with USB, make a copy of my music collection converted to ALAC, and transfer the ALAC copy with iTunes. Whereas on Android I can just use KDE Connect to wirelessly explore my phone, drag and drop my FLAC music in the music folder, and then in my music app tell it to rescan.

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TheSuperSilver
07/29/23 7:34:41 PM
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I haven't met a single person that said "I hope I can get a Samsung one day!"
Interestingly enough my wife (who uses Apple everything) has often remarked that it's the Galaxy Z Fold series that may get her to switch (apparently her hairstylist has one). I mentioned the Z Flip which also folds and is small/cute and she says nope the Fold - the big one.

She would keep everything else Apple, but that Z Fold has her intrigued.

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bioshockjack
07/29/23 9:45:43 PM
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PraetorXyn posted...
I have the same phone, and it really pushes me off that the Galaxy Store even exists. Id be willing to try an iPhone if not for two things:
1. As far as Im aware, its not really possible to sideloading things on there without jailbreaking, and if you can, Im not aware of an alternative to YouTube ReVanced etc to eliminate YouTube ads on mobile. Thats an absolute requirement for me.
2. Apple wont support FLAC in the music apps and just give access to that folder properly. To get an equivalent experience on iOS, Id have to plug my phone into my computer with USB, make a copy of my music collection converted to ALAC, and transfer the ALAC copy with iTunes. Whereas on Android I can just use KDE Connect to wirelessly explore my phone, drag and drop my FLAC music in the music folder, and then in my music app tell it to rescan.

For the first point, Altstore is an amazing alternative for Sideloading apps on without jailbreaking. Ive been using it for a year or two and its been great

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_____Cait
07/29/23 9:50:23 PM
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I think more and more people are realizing that even cheapo phones like Aquos do all the same crap, for a quarter of the price. Oh no you cant take microfiber photos of whatever. If you really love photography, get a real camera.

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07/29/23 9:55:11 PM
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PraetorXyn posted...
I have the same phone, and it really pushes me off that the Galaxy Store even exists. Id be willing to try an iPhone if not for two things:
1. As far as Im aware, its not really possible to sideloading things on there without jailbreaking, and if you can, Im not aware of an alternative to YouTube ReVanced etc to eliminate YouTube ads on mobile. Thats an absolute requirement for me.
You can sideload on iOS without jailbreaking (though the process could be a lot more convenient) but sideloading will officially be supported soon due to some EU regulations.

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AnsestralRecall
07/29/23 11:17:55 PM
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_____Cait posted...
I think more and more people are realizing that even cheapo phones like Aquos do all the same crap, for a quarter of the price. Oh no you cant take microfiber photos of whatever. If you really love photography, get a real camera.

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vycebrand2
08/01/23 8:58:44 PM
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PraetorXyn posted...
I would imagine people decided that when they paid $1200+ for a phone, they should hold onto it longer than 2 years.
I have one of their older cheaper phones from 2017. It's just now showing its age. No way on gods green earth would I pay 1200 dollars for a phone $200 is my limit. Maybe rethink the over priced phone

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08/01/23 9:32:00 PM
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iPhone/Pixel gang rise up

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jefffan
08/01/23 9:55:06 PM
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Have an LG V60. Starting to get old.

Not going back to Samsung though. Pixel for me next year.

Samsung's problem is that it's become Iphone lite. And if you're Iphone lite, you might as well just buy an Iphone.

Their appliances (Fridges, Washers) have also been crap for a while with terrible support if you have an issue. But they sell a shit ton because they are usually cheaper than other brands (GE, Bosch, etc.)

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CreekCo
08/01/23 10:46:20 PM
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iPhone lite in all the bad ways is accurate.

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08/01/23 10:56:32 PM
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ironman2009 posted...
got an s22 ultra. it's so nice i don't think i'll need to upgrade for like 5 years.


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