Board 8 > Games whose reputations have improved over the years

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Underleveled 07/30/23 4:31:25 PM #1:	First thing that comes to mind is Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald. I remember these games being overlooked/not well-received by fans when they were released, and I blame timing. The first generation of Pokemon fans were now in middle/high school and it was "cool" to hate Pokemon. But nowadays those fans have given them a second look and found them to be a really great entry in the main series, and the second generation of fans whose first games were RSE are very vocal about them being one of, if not the best generation. Another that I would have said a few years ago is Super Mario Sunshine. A lot of people hated that game when it came out but then years later said they liked it and wished they could play it again... until 3D All-Stars came out and they replayed it and remembered they hated it. --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 7; Most recent - Professor Layton and the Curious Village <cite>Underleveled posted [p:975157797] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>First thing that comes to mind is Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald. I remember these games being overlooked/not well-received by fans when they were released, and I blame timing. The first generation of Pokemon fans were now in middle/high school and it was "cool" to hate Pokemon. But nowadays those fans have given them a second look and found them to be a really great entry in the main series, and the second generation of fans whose first games were RSE are very vocal about them being one of, if not the best generation.Another that I would have said a few years ago is Super Mario Sunshine. A lot of people hated that game when it came out but then years later said they liked it and wished they could play it again... until 3D All-Stars came out and they replayed it and remembered they hated it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 07/30/23 4:32:37 PM #2:	Wind Waker --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:975157820] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>Wind Waker</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningStrikes 07/30/23 4:33:57 PM #3:	The Legend of Zelda Majoras Mask The Legend of Zelda The Wind Waker The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess Unfortunately then Breath of the Wild was so good it stopped the same happening for Skyward Sword. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>LightningStrikes posted [p:975157839] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>The Legend of Zelda Majoras MaskThe Legend of Zelda The Wind WakerThe Legend of Zelda Twilight PrincessUnfortunately then Breath of the Wild was so good it stopped the same happening for Skyward Sword.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_PandaMaster_ 07/30/23 4:36:52 PM #4:	FF13 Trilogy. --- https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/0/1/AAdFc_AAApBB.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Em9Xlbu.jpg [#Life&Hometown] https://i.imgtc.com/790csbr.jpg <cite>_PandaMaster_ posted [p:975157881] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>FF13 Trilogy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 07/30/23 4:38:26 PM #5:	Dark Souls 2 --- I find it kinda bussin, I find it kinda cap That the dreams in which I'm dying are the ones that kinda slap <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:975157909] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>Dark Souls 2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nanis23 07/30/23 4:38:55 PM #6:	Metroid Fusion. So many people were against the idea of it having a narrative, telling you where to go, and Samus talks But who cares it was a fantastic game As for RSE - I believe a lot of complaints were because of how they ditched the connectivity with previous gens - making the game have only 202 out of 386 possible Pokemon to catch - meaning only 67 of the previous 251 were obtainable "Classics" like the RBY starters were not obtainable at all Of course, the release of FRLG fixed this, so it was no longer a problem after that --- wololo <cite>Nanis23 posted [p:975157914] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>Metroid Fusion.So many people were against the idea of it having a narrative, telling you where to go, and Samus talksBut who cares it was a fantastic gameAs for RSE - I believe a lot of complaints were because of how they ditched the connectivity with previous gens - making the game have only 202 out of 386 possible Pokemon to catch - meaning only 67 of the previous 251 were obtainable"Classics" like the RBY starters were not obtainable at allOf course, the release of FRLG fixed this, so it was no longer a problem after that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 07/30/23 4:39:20 PM #7:	No Man's Sky --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:975157921] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>No Man's Sky</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 07/30/23 4:42:59 PM #8:	Nanis23 posted... As for RSE - I believe a lot of complaints were because of how they ditched the connectivity with previous gens - making the game have only 202 out of 386 possible Pokemon to catch - meaning only 67 of the previous 251 were obtainable "Classics" like the RBY starters were not obtainable at all Of course, the release of FRLG fixed this, so it was no longer a problem after that Another complaint I heard from a few people was lack of inclusion of prior regions, but we were just spoiled by GSC having Kanto. --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 7; Most recent - Professor Layton and the Curious Village <cite>Underleveled posted [p:975157971] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>Nanis23 posted... </cite><quote>As for RSE - I believe a lot of complaints were because of how they ditched the connectivity with previous gens - making the game have only 202 out of 386 possible Pokemon to catch - meaning only 67 of the previous 251 were obtainable"Classics" like the RBY starters were not obtainable at allOf course, the release of FRLG fixed this, so it was no longer a problem after that</quote>Another complaint I heard from a few people was lack of inclusion of prior regions, but we were just spoiled by GSC having Kanto.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 07/30/23 4:43:55 PM #9:	Sea of Thieves --- I find it kinda bussin, I find it kinda cap That the dreams in which I'm dying are the ones that kinda slap <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:975157988] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>Sea of Thieves</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranzonEx 07/30/23 4:45:28 PM #10:	FFX and FFXII --- 2 line break(s), 160 characters allowed <cite>GranzonEx posted [p:975158014] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>FFX and FFXII</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningStrikes 07/30/23 4:49:13 PM #11:	_PandaMaster_ posted... FF13 Trilogy. I cant speak for the other two but if anything Id say XIIIs reception has only gotten worse. Anyway, this is an expansion but World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade. It was somewhat controversial at launch for a variety of reasons from lore to the new races or zones to gameplay being often viewed as a lull between Classic and Wrath of the Lich King. Now BC is viewed as one of the heights of the game though not as fondly as WotLK is. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>LightningStrikes posted [p:975158082] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>_PandaMaster_ posted... </cite><quote>FF13 Trilogy.</quote>I cant speak for the other two but if anything Id say XIIIs reception has only gotten worse.Anyway, this is an expansion but World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade. It was somewhat controversial at launch for a variety of reasons from lore to the new races or zones to gameplay being often viewed as a lull between Classic and Wrath of the Lich King. Now BC is viewed as one of the heights of the game though not as fondly as WotLK is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evillordexdeath 07/30/23 4:49:38 PM #12:	Earthbound went from lackluster sales and lukewarm initial reviews to a cult classic to generally being recognized as a masterpiece. Okami and Shadow of the Colossus both went from relatively obscure to widely regarded as classics and almost obligatory on best games ever lists Yeah Majora's Mask is a good one Apparently Morrowind was regarded as the game that dumbed down Elder Scrolls for consoles when it first came out but now tends to be considered the best game in the series. I remember New Vegas being considered a disappointment compared to Fallout 3 and getting a worse Metacritic score but now everyone seems to think it's much better out of the two. --- I'm playing every game from GotD 2020! Games Completed: 20/129 (Currently on Hiatus) <cite>Evillordexdeath posted [p:975158092] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>Earthbound went from lackluster sales and lukewarm initial reviews to a cult classic to generally being recognized as a masterpiece.Okami and Shadow of the Colossus both went from relatively obscure to widely regarded as classics and almost obligatory on best games ever listsYeah Majora's Mask is a good oneApparently Morrowind was regarded as the game that dumbed down Elder Scrolls for consoles when it first came out but now tends to be considered the best game in the series.I remember New Vegas being considered a disappointment compared to Fallout 3 and getting a worse Metacritic score but now everyone seems to think it's much better out of the two.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TomNook7 07/30/23 4:52:12 PM #13:	_PandaMaster_ posted... FF13 Trilogy. LOL good one --- I'm the original TomNook7 from the old days. The other guy is just TomNook. Know your TomNooks. <cite>TomNook7 posted [p:975158143] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>_PandaMaster_ posted... </cite><quote>FF13 Trilogy.</quote>LOL good one</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningStrikes 07/30/23 4:59:15 PM #14:	Oh, one more - Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze. People were furious when that game was announced, and it launched to good but not exceptional reviews with a lot of criticism over the difficulty. This board always loved it though. However, when the Switch version came out, it actually reviewed a fair bit better despite being a quite barebones port. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>LightningStrikes posted [p:975158245] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>Oh, one more - Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze. People were furious when that game was announced, and it launched to good but not exceptional reviews with a lot of criticism over the difficulty. This board always loved it though. However, when the Switch version came out, it actually reviewed a fair bit better despite being a quite barebones port.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 07/30/23 5:01:56 PM #15:	LightningStrikes posted... Oh, one more - Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze. People were furious when that game was announced, and it launched to good but not exceptional reviews with a lot of criticism over the difficulty. This board always loved it though. However, when the Switch version came out, it actually reviewed a fair bit better despite being a quite barebones port. Why were people upset about a DKC sequel? I missed that discussion entirely. --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:975158297] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>LightningStrikes posted... </cite><quote>Oh, one more - Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze. People were furious when that game was announced, and it launched to good but not exceptional reviews with a lot of criticism over the difficulty. This board always loved it though. However, when the Switch version came out, it actually reviewed a fair bit better despite being a quite barebones port.</quote>Why were people upset about a DKC sequel? I missed that discussion entirely.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
plasmabeam 07/30/23 5:05:28 PM #16:	Zero Time Dilemma --- ~Jacksonville Jaguars~ <cite>plasmabeam posted [p:975158344] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>Zero Time Dilemma</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 07/30/23 5:06:31 PM #17:	KamikazePotato posted... Why were people upset about a DKC sequel? I missed that discussion entirely. Still had DK as the only playable character, for one --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:975158357] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite><quote>Why were people upset about a DKC sequel? I missed that discussion entirely.</quote>Still had DK as the only playable character, for one </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Isquen 07/30/23 5:13:00 PM #18:	FF14 (for real, because 1.0 was a dumpster fire) --- [Rock and Stone] <o/ <cite>Isquen posted [p:975158445] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>FF14 (for real, because 1.0 was a dumpster fire)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WazzupGenius00 07/30/23 5:13:15 PM #19:	KamikazePotato posted... Why were people upset about a DKC sequel? I missed that discussion entirely. Because everyone was looking forward to the next great Retro Studios game (it had been four years since their last one) and it turned out to be another Donkey Kong game --- http://i.imgur.com/k0v0z3q.gif <cite>WazzupGenius00 posted [p:975158448] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite><quote>Why were people upset about a DKC sequel? I missed that discussion entirely.</quote>Because everyone was looking forward to the next great Retro Studios game (it had been four years since their last one) and it turned out to be another Donkey Kong game</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Denzokuken 07/30/23 5:27:22 PM #20:	New Vegas is a good suggestion. I'd also add in Metal Gear Solid 2. I know it was well-received critically when it came out, but there was something of a popular backlash for a few reasons. Nowadays it seems both critics and everyday gamers agree it was way ahead of its time. <cite>Denzokuken posted [p:975158645] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>New Vegas is a good suggestion.I'd also add in Metal Gear Solid 2. I know it was well-received critically when it came out, but there was something of a popular backlash for a few reasons. Nowadays it seems both critics and everyday gamers agree it was way ahead of its time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
azuarc 07/30/23 6:02:27 PM #21:	LightningStrikes posted... Anyway, this is an expansion but World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade. It was somewhat controversial at launch for a variety of reasons from lore to the new races or zones to gameplay being often viewed as a lull between Classic and Wrath of the Lich King. Now BC is viewed as one of the heights of the game though not as fondly as WotLK is. I quit the game over Lich King. I got tired of waiting for an actual raid to come along. Burning Crusade was vastly superior to rerunning a dungeon I got to see during vanilla, I didn't like Uldum, and then we got a fake raid with the Grand Tournament. Maybe ICC was really good, but I didn't stick around to find out. --- Only the exceptions can be exceptional. <cite>azuarc posted [p:975159166] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>LightningStrikes posted... </cite><quote>Anyway, this is an expansion but World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade. It was somewhat controversial at launch for a variety of reasons from lore to the new races or zones to gameplay being often viewed as a lull between Classic and Wrath of the Lich King. Now BC is viewed as one of the heights of the game though not as fondly as WotLK is.</quote>I quit the game over Lich King. I got tired of waiting for an actual raid to come along. Burning Crusade was vastly superior to rerunning a dungeon I got to see during vanilla, I didn't like Uldum, and then we got a fake raid with the Grand Tournament. Maybe ICC was really good, but I didn't stick around to find out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningStrikes 07/30/23 6:35:56 PM #22:	ICC was indeed very good! Though of course it all depends what you were after. And yeah the initial Tropical Freeze backlash was people angry that Retro was making another Donkey Kong Country game, especially over something viewed as more graphically ambitious (of course Tropical Freeze was a very visually impressive game but that was less obvious on stream). --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>LightningStrikes posted [p:975159752] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>ICC was indeed very good! Though of course it all depends what you were after.And yeah the initial Tropical Freeze backlash was people angry that Retro was making another Donkey Kong Country game, especially over something viewed as more graphically ambitious (of course Tropical Freeze was a very visually impressive game but that was less obvious on stream).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xenosaga 07/30/23 6:38:27 PM #23:	Anthem, so happy that a game with such good core gameplay was able to turn around a bad launch XIV style... --- thcam ruz elliw red <cite>xenosaga posted [p:975159788] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>Anthem, so happy that a game with such good core gameplay was able to turn around a bad launch XIV style... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_Rocks 07/30/23 6:52:22 PM #24:	Mgs2 --- Not to be confused with XIII_Minerals. <cite>XIII_Rocks posted [p:975160007] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>Mgs2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackMageJawa 07/30/23 6:59:48 PM #25:	NieR Reviews ranged from "Blandly average" to "One of the worst games ever", and it barely sold at all. Word eventually spread about its superb writing and music, causing people to actually play it and realise it's a goddamn masterpiece. --- The shattered stage is set and there's a role you must fulfil <cite>BlackMageJawa posted [p:975160133] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>NieRReviews ranged from "Blandly average" to "One of the worst games ever", and it barely sold at all. Word eventually spread about its superb writing and music, causing people to actually play it and realise it's a goddamn masterpiece.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mythiot 07/30/23 7:01:03 PM #26:	The Last of Us Part II is a weird case where it isn't exactly beloved, but you won't be bombarded with people accusing you of being a woke Sony shill if you say you like it on social media anymore, which is impressive because that got Last Jedi levels of vitriol when it came out. <cite>Mythiot posted [p:975160157] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>The Last of Us Part II is a weird case where it isn't exactly beloved, but you won't be bombarded with people accusing you of being a woke Sony shill if you say you like it on social media anymore, which is impressive because that got Last Jedi levels of vitriol when it came out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 07/30/23 7:12:38 PM #27:	azuarc posted... I quit the game over Lich King. I got tired of waiting for an actual raid to come along. Burning Crusade was vastly superior to rerunning a dungeon I got to see during vanilla, I didn't like Uldum, and then we got a fake raid with the Grand Tournament. Maybe ICC was really good, but I didn't stick around to find out. Congratulations on being part of the 1% that raided Naxx in Vanilla I guess? And Ulduar is legit a top 5 raid all time so thats a spicy take. --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:975160381] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>azuarc posted... </cite><quote>I quit the game over Lich King. I got tired of waiting for an actual raid to come along. Burning Crusade was vastly superior to rerunning a dungeon I got to see during vanilla, I didn't like Uldum, and then we got a fake raid with the Grand Tournament. Maybe ICC was really good, but I didn't stick around to find out.</quote>Congratulations on being part of the 1% that raided Naxx in Vanilla I guess? And Ulduar is legit a top 5 raid all time so thats a spicy take. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KokoroAkechi 07/30/23 7:16:46 PM #28:	Chess <cite>KokoroAkechi posted [p:975160456] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>Chess </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 07/30/23 7:20:37 PM #29:	Also, I think there's a distinct difference between games where the reception has legitimately improved across the board, and where the people who dislike it just don't care enough to complain anymore. Despite MGS2 being mentioned several times in this topic, I don't think it's an example of legitimate improvement. The people who like it back in the day still do, for the same reasons, and the people who disliked it still aren't fans. It's just the former group still extol its praises while the latter has moved on. To put it simply: MGS2 hasn't gotten any stronger in a contest setting. Most of the game mentioned in this topic so far seem like that to me, actually, except for Majora's Mask and Nier 1. --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:975160522] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>Also, I think there's a distinct difference between games where the reception has legitimately improved across the board, and where the people who dislike it just don't care enough to complain anymore. Despite MGS2 being mentioned several times in this topic, I don't think it's an example of legitimate improvement. The people who like it back in the day still do, for the same reasons, and the people who disliked it still aren't fans. It's just the former group still extol its praises while the latter has moved on. To put it simply: MGS2 hasn't gotten any stronger in a contest setting.Most of the game mentioned in this topic so far seem like that to me, actually, except for Majora's Mask and Nier 1.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shattered 07/30/23 7:40:23 PM #32:	Isquen posted... FF14 (for real, because 1.0 was a dumpster fire) Yeah this is the real correct answer. I played 1.0 through to the shutdown and actually didn't mind it but I understand why people did. At 1.0 end it was unfathomable that it would become the most popular MMO over a prolonged period of time. It was far more realistic that it would just shut down completely. There's no way anyone could have predicted after the 1.0 mess it would end up how it did now. Nier is a good call too. Got shitty reviews at the time and I ended up buying it for like I dunno 5-10 very shortly after release because it bombed that hard. Again completely unfathomable it would become a cult classic and get sequels at all nevermind uber popular ones <cite>Shattered posted [p:975160909] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>Isquen posted... </cite><quote>FF14 (for real, because 1.0 was a dumpster fire)</quote>Yeah this is the real correct answer. I played 1.0 through to the shutdown and actually didn't mind it but I understand why people did. At 1.0 end it was unfathomable that it would become the most popular MMO over a prolonged period of time. It was far more realistic that it would just shut down completely.There's no way anyone could have predicted after the 1.0 mess it would end up how it did now. Nier is a good call too. Got shitty reviews at the time and I ended up buying it for like I dunno 5-10 very shortly after release because it bombed that hard. Again completely unfathomable it would become a cult classic and get sequels at all nevermind uber popular ones</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 07/30/23 8:49:11 PM #33:	Oh, Sprung on the DS got crap reviews when it first came out, and now the reception is certainly not stellar but kind of, "decent for what it is." The VN crazy hadn't taken off in the US yet. --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 7; Most recent - Professor Layton and the Curious Village <cite>Underleveled posted [p:975162185] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>Oh, Sprung on the DS got crap reviews when it first came out, and now the reception is certainly not stellar but kind of, "decent for what it is." The VN crazy hadn't taken off in the US yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou_Shake 07/30/23 8:56:37 PM #34:	Nier is a pretty incredible answer that's already been mentioned. Still feels surreal to me how widely beloved and widespread the series(!) is post-Automata when the original killed Cavia and was largely seen as a complete shit game because of stuff like the infamous review that got walled by the first fishing quest. --- Let the voice of love take you higher, With this gathering power, go beyond even time! <cite>Xiahou_Shake posted [p:975162311] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>Nier is a pretty incredible answer that's already been mentioned. Still feels surreal to me how widely beloved and widespread the series(!) is post-Automata when the original killed Cavia and was largely seen as a complete shit game because of stuff like the infamous review that got walled by the first fishing quest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 07/30/23 9:03:59 PM #35:	Xiahou_Shake posted... infamous review that got walled by the first fishing quest. Still one of the worst gaming articles ever written. --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:975162439] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>Xiahou_Shake posted... </cite><quote>infamous review that got walled by the first fishing quest.</quote>Still one of the worst gaming articles ever written.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_Rocks 07/30/23 9:28:17 PM #37:	KamikazePotato posted... Also, I think there's a distinct difference between games where the reception has legitimately improved across the board, and where the people who dislike it just don't care enough to complain anymore. Despite MGS2 being mentioned several times in this topic, I don't think it's an example of legitimate improvement. The people who like it back in the day still do, for the same reasons, and the people who disliked it still aren't fans. It's just the former group still extol its praises while the latter has moved on. To put it simply: MGS2 hasn't gotten any stronger in a contest setting. Most of the game mentioned in this topic so far seem like that to me, actually, except for Majora's Mask and Nier 1. It's all anecdotal but I've seen several people change their minds on Raiden in particular. --- Not to be confused with XIII_Minerals. <cite>XIII_Rocks posted [p:975162855] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite><quote>Also, I think there's a distinct difference between games where the reception has legitimately improved across the board, and where the people who dislike it just don't care enough to complain anymore. Despite MGS2 being mentioned several times in this topic, I don't think it's an example of legitimate improvement. The people who like it back in the day still do, for the same reasons, and the people who disliked it still aren't fans. It's just the former group still extol its praises while the latter has moved on. To put it simply: MGS2 hasn't gotten any stronger in a contest setting.Most of the game mentioned in this topic so far seem like that to me, actually, except for Majora's Mask and Nier 1.</quote>It's all anecdotal but I've seen several people change their minds on Raiden in particular.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacArrowny 07/30/23 9:31:22 PM #38:	KamikazePotato posted... To put it simply: MGS2 hasn't gotten any stronger in a contest setting. It used to be weaker than MGS4 and now it's stronger :p --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. <cite>MacArrowny posted [p:975162906] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite><quote>To put it simply: MGS2 hasn't gotten any stronger in a contest setting.</quote>It used to be weaker than MGS4 and now it's stronger :p</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
azuarc 07/30/23 9:34:25 PM #39:	redrocket posted... Congratulations on being part of the 1% that raided Naxx in Vanilla I guess? And Ulduar is legit a top 5 raid all time so thats a spicy take. We didn't finish Naxx, but we definitely cleared a big chunk of it. Anyway, regardless of whether you were familiar with it or not, Naxx got real old real quick considering it was the only raid content besides two one-off dragons. I basically stopped playing until Ulduar came out, and all I remember is there was an obnoxious vehicle combat to open it with and some bosses we cleared early on that I didn't care for the mechanics of. It didn't help that I was playing catch-up and everyone already knew what they were doing. I prefer contributing to being carried. But I wouldn't have said any of the fights I witnessed were particularly fun. They got to the final boss and I decided I just didn't care. Gave me Ahn'Qiraj flashbacks. --- Only the exceptions can be exceptional. <cite>azuarc posted [p:975162952] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>redrocket posted... </cite><quote>Congratulations on being part of the 1% that raided Naxx in Vanilla I guess? And Ulduar is legit a top 5 raid all time so thats a spicy take.</quote>We didn't finish Naxx, but we definitely cleared a big chunk of it. Anyway, regardless of whether you were familiar with it or not, Naxx got real old real quick considering it was the only raid content besides two one-off dragons.I basically stopped playing until Ulduar came out, and all I remember is there was an obnoxious vehicle combat to open it with and some bosses we cleared early on that I didn't care for the mechanics of. It didn't help that I was playing catch-up and everyone already knew what they were doing. I prefer contributing to being carried. But I wouldn't have said any of the fights I witnessed were particularly fun. They got to the final boss and I decided I just didn't care. Gave me Ahn'Qiraj flashbacks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 07/30/23 9:34:54 PM #40:	Raiden has two new games under his belt, including a popular starring role. I think people who disliked MGS2 Raiden still generally dislike MGS2 Raiden; they just think MGR Raiden is an upgrade. --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:975162962] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>Raiden has two new games under his belt, including a popular starring role. I think people who disliked MGS2 Raiden still generally dislike MGS2 Raiden; they just think MGR Raiden is an upgrade.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 07/30/23 9:43:44 PM #41:	MGS2 is the best MGS, and if you ever hated the game because of Raiden you are stupid. --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:975163098] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>MGS2 is the best MGS, and if you ever hated the game because of Raiden you are stupid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raka_Putra 07/30/23 9:55:54 PM #42:	Fate/Grand Order, since the later story chapters have gotten much better than the earlier ones, and that the pool of Servants (including lower rarity ones) are largely usable compared to something like, say, FEH. Also, base game The Sims 4. The barrage of expansions and stuff kits etc. is still very greedy, but at least some of the new features trickled down to the base game too. --- "A blank page or canvas, his favorite. So many possibilities." - RIP Stephen Sondheim, 1930-2021 <cite>Raka_Putra posted [p:975163301] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>Fate/Grand Order, since the later story chapters have gotten much better than the earlier ones, and that the pool of Servants (including lower rarity ones) are largely usable compared to something like, say, FEH.Also, base game The Sims 4. The barrage of expansions and stuff kits etc. is still very greedy, but at least some of the new features trickled down to the base game too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnbobb 07/30/23 10:00:52 PM #43:	New Vegas is a great answer Went from being "not as good to as Fallout 3, kind of a buggy mess" to "the best of the franchise and possibly the genre" --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs <cite>Johnbobb posted [p:975163364] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>New Vegas is a great answerWent from being "not as good to as Fallout 3, kind of a buggy mess" to "the best of the franchise and possibly the genre"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WhiteLens 07/30/23 10:03:38 PM #44:	Sonic 2006 sort of. It went from a hated game to a game that.people still dont think is good but is loved as a meme. --- FFXIV - Faerie Server: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/5086952/ F/GO: 271551102; FFBE: 886783216 <cite>WhiteLens posted [p:975163408] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>Sonic 2006 sort of.It went from a hated game to a game that.people still dont think is good but is loved as a meme.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LiquidOshawott 07/30/23 10:05:33 PM #45:	Bioshock 2 I think has surpassed Infinite in fan views and has a good DLC Cyberpunk for similar reasons as No Mans Sky oh Kotor 2 as well --- I live on, THROUGH THIS SEASHELL! VeryInsane's mobile account <cite>LiquidOshawott posted [p:975163434] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>Bioshock 2 I think has surpassed Infinite in fan views and has a good DLCCyberpunk for similar reasons as No Mans Skyoh Kotor 2 as well </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WhiteLens 07/30/23 10:44:58 PM #46:	Actually, this applies to 2 Street Fighter games. Street Fighter III went from a fairly ignored game to a common fan favorite of the series. Street Fighter V was hated on from launch due to lack of content, but went to being at least a respected game with the complete package. Though I dont think many people would still call it their favorite. --- FFXIV - Faerie Server: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/5086952/ F/GO: 271551102; FFBE: 886783216 <cite>WhiteLens posted [p:975164034] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>Actually, this applies to 2 Street Fighter games.Street Fighter III went from a fairly ignored game to a common fan favorite of the series.Street Fighter V was hated on from launch due to lack of content, but went to being at least a respected game with the complete package. Though I dont think many people would still call it their favorite.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joelypoely 07/30/23 11:01:01 PM #47:	Final Fantasy XII --- https://philoetryblog.wordpress.com/ <cite>Joelypoely posted [p:975164273] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>Final Fantasy XII</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Natalie 07/30/23 11:06:36 PM #48:	KamikazePotato posted... Still one of the worst gaming articles ever written. Which review was this? I didn't know about the game when it first came out, I missed the initial reception. <cite>Natalie posted [p:975164355] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite><quote>Still one of the worst gaming articles ever written.</quote>Which review was this? I didn't know about the game when it first came out, I missed the initial reception.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 07/30/23 11:44:51 PM #49:	I think most people who disliked SFV bailed long before it fixed whatever issues it fixed, so that's probably why its reputation shifted --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:975164794] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>I think most people who disliked SFV bailed long before it fixed whatever issues it fixed, so that's probably why its reputation shifted</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MikeTavish 07/30/23 11:48:46 PM #50:	Definitely FFXIV --- Formerly ff6man. <cite>MikeTavish posted [p:975164831] in Games whos... [t:80523666]...</cite> <quote>Definitely FFXIV</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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