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08/14/23 2:02:00 PM
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Everyonedies
08/14/23 2:09:46 PM
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A 13-year-old girl in Mississippi gave birth this month after she was raped last fall, and just weeks before she will start 7th grade. When the pregnancy was first discovered at an emergency room earlier this year, her mother told Time magazine that a nurse reportedly asked the child, What have you been doing?
Ashley (a pseudonym to protect her privacy), is Black, and her story illustrates the horrific effects of abortion bans in already disadvantaged areas. She was raped last fall while filming a TikTok video in the yard of her familys house in Clarksdale, while her relatives were inside. Her mother, who goes by the pseudonym Regina said, according to Time, that Ashley said a man came down the street and into the front yard, grabbed Ashley, and covered her mouth...He pulled her around to the side of the house and raped her and that the assailant was an adult, and that she didnt know him. Nobody else witnessed the assault.
At the next appointment, Regina broached the subject of abortion. But it was early 2023: The world of abortion access is the South was already at a humanitarian-level crisis. The closest abortion provider was in Chicago. I dont have the funds for all this, Regina told Time, referencing the need to take off work, pay for gas, food and lodgingas well as the abortion.
Ashley and Reginas position is horrifically not unique: There are nearly 2 million people of reproductive age who live in a county without abortion or maternity care access, according to a new analysis from ABC News and Bostons Childrens Hospital. If you zoom out a bit, to include counties that only have low access to maternal healthcare, these healthcare deserts now include 3.7 million women.
Obviously, Ashely didnt get the abortion; thats why youre reading this story. She joined the growing number of people who are simply unable to make true choices of bodily autonomy. Having a childeven as a teenshould be a choice. Instead, Ashley was raped and forced to become a mother at age 13.
Ashleys story is the inverse of a 10-year-old Ohio girl who was raped by Gerson Fuentes in summer 2022. That girl was able to travel across state lines to Indiana to receive a medication abortion before she reached seven weeks. (Of course, she was forced to travel because Roe v. Wade was overturned, and her home state of Ohio implemented a six-week abortion ban shortly thereafter.) After the girls pregnancy from the rape was discovered, child protective services got involved. A child abuse doctor reached out to Dr. Caitlin Bernard, the abortion provider in Indiana. They made travel plans, and the girl received her abortion. Ashley was not so lucky.
She also experienced the all-too-common adultification bias, which treats Black children as more grown up than they are and, in this case, presumes immense responsibility when the nurse asked, What have you been doing?
Even though Regina filed a police report, and the family gave the name of a possible suspect, little has been done for Ashleys case. Police only collected a DNA sample from the newborn child after Time made multiple inquiries. Time reported that the Clarksdale Police Chief Vincent Ramirez essentially shrugged when asked about the delay. Its a pretty high priority, as a juvenile, he told the magazine. Sometimes they slip a little bit because weve got a lot going on, but then they come back to it.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mississippi-nurse-questioned-13-olds-164000267.html

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Gritty
08/14/23 2:13:23 PM
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Shit hole state
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Zikten
08/14/23 2:14:11 PM
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So disgusting to force this on a child. I think there might even still be health risks for a 13 year old to give birth. What if she died during the forced birth? Republicans would still say it was the right thing to do
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Revisited
08/14/23 2:16:23 PM
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There are absolutely health risks. This isn't 1400 BC there's no need for a 13 year old to go through that
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Tenlaar
08/14/23 2:20:55 PM
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A nurse asking if shes been having sex seems like a weird thing to focus on given the rape, lack of abortion options, and response from the police in this terrible story.
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GranAures
08/14/23 2:22:51 PM
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Everyonedies posted...
What have you been doing?
Ashley (a pseudonym to protect her privacy), is Black
Such a wonderful, caring, nurse.

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Lordgold666
08/14/23 2:23:26 PM
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Horrible hope the assailant is found and thrown off a building. Poor girl is going to have a lifetime of mental issues :(

Also, fuck the nurse for insinuating the pregnancy was her fault

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DD_Divine
08/14/23 2:27:43 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
A nurse asking if shes been having sex seems like a weird thing to focus on given the rape, lack of abortion options, and response from the police in this terrible story.

republicans like this nurse probably think girls cant get pregnant if its not heir first time

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pauIie
08/14/23 2:28:41 PM
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Gritty posted...
Shit hole country


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ANort175
08/14/23 2:30:24 PM
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The sad thing is republican politicians probably look at this sort of thing and think "Good, exactly as planned" since making life miserable for minorities and women is basically their whole MO, and this combines the two.

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Tenlaar
08/14/23 2:30:50 PM
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DD_Divine posted...
republicans like this nurse probably think girls cant get pregnant if its not heir first time
I dont know why you feel the need to just wholesale invent things to add to the story yourself, but okay.
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GranAures
08/14/23 2:36:04 PM
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The nurse's reaction was basic bitch "Well why were you having sex" to blame the rape victim in front of her.

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Simon_Gruber
08/14/23 3:49:00 PM
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Clarksdale Police Chief Vincent Ramirez essentially shrugged when asked about the delay. Its a pretty high priority, as a juvenile, he told the magazine. Sometimes they slip a little bit because weve got a lot going on, but then they come back to it.

Good to know they'll "come back to it" eventually. I mean, it's only CHILD RAPE!
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Ruvan22
08/14/23 4:17:19 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
A nurse asking if shes been having sex seems like a weird thing to focus on given the rape, lack of abortion options, and response from the police in this terrible story.

Given that question is often used to discredit rape, especially among adultified girls (as the article describes), it seems pretty salient.

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Tenlaar
08/14/23 4:19:07 PM
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It says the nurse asked her that after learning of the pregnancy, not learning that she was raped.
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GranAures
08/14/23 4:23:45 PM
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Yes, I'm sure she was just asking questions of the girl in the emergency room. Nevermind she was still just immediately assuming the girl was being super promiscuous. Just like I'm sure the girl legitimately slipped through the cracks of the police's investigations.

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Nightmare_Luna
08/14/23 4:25:17 PM
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this is what christians encourage

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Ruvan22
08/14/23 4:26:15 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
It says the nurse asked her that after learning of the pregnancy, not learning that she was raped.

Sorry I typed too quickly - I'd say that question is still inappropriate to start with for a few reasons (in front of mother, the adultification), but especially because it discourages the reporting of rape.
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Tenlaar
08/14/23 4:31:10 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Sorry I typed too quickly - I'd say that question is still inappropriate to start with for a few reasons (in front of mother, the adultification), but especially because it discourages the reporting of rape.
Its inappropriate for sure, but again, focusing on a nurse asking an insensitive question as the title and lede of a story that involves a girl being raped in her own yard and the police shrugging and going eh, well get around to it I guess seems weird to me. Thats all.
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GranAures
08/14/23 4:34:31 PM
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As the title, okay, but it being included helps show a pattern of dismissal and lack of concern from people who should be helping victims. Instead, the same people tried to pass responsibility and showed a general lack of concern.

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NoxObscuras
08/14/23 4:39:52 PM
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So... Can the baby's DNA be used to find out who the dad is? Or is it useless without him coming forward? Because it's fucked that she was forced to give birth to this baby and the man involved hasn't had the book thrown at him.

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GranAures
08/14/23 4:43:34 PM
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It'll only help with comparing against potential suspects unless the perpetrator has prior convictions. If they even decide to actually follow up on any suspects now that they're in the news.

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invertedlegdrop
08/14/23 4:49:36 PM
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One thing non locals dont know is Clarksdale where this happened (in the Delta) is one of the poorest areas in the entire country...

This is sadly not that uncommon (underage births that is)...

The dude probably skipped town and the Delta resources are so minimal that no real hustle will given to solve the crime...

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Ruvan22
08/14/23 4:56:11 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
Its inappropriate for sure, but again, focusing on a nurse asking an insensitive question as the title and lede of a story that involves a girl being raped in her own yard and the police shrugging and going eh, well get around to it I guess seems weird to me. Thats all.

Do you feel it was "weird" for them to bring up the subject of abortion access being recently limited?
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Tenlaar
08/14/23 5:12:24 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Do you feel it was "weird" for them to bring up the subject of abortion access being recently limited?
Please just stop. Youre annoying.
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Thermador446
08/14/23 5:14:44 PM
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Gritty posted...
Shit hole state

The worst
Biden should really just declare the entire state of Mississippi a disaster zone

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invertedlegdrop
08/14/23 5:16:24 PM
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Thermador446 posted...
The worst
Biden should really just declare the entire state of Mississippi a disaster zone

really needs to for Hawaii right now, those folk need some help...

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CoyoteTheGreat
08/14/23 5:17:43 PM
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Tenlaar being Tenlaar yet again in this topic. Just tag him and be on your way.

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DnDer
08/14/23 8:44:43 PM
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Thermador446 posted...
The worst
Biden should really just declare the entire state of Mississippi a disaster zone

Considering they still don't really have drinkable water in Jackson, and the person responsible for making sure they do... isn't doing his job? Yeah. We should probably be at the point of federal intervention.

https://www.wlbt.com/2023/08/12/community-groups-file-emergency-petition-with-epa-over-jackson-water/


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Tenlaar
08/14/23 8:55:05 PM
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CoyoteTheGreat posted...
Tenlaar being Tenlaar yet again in this topic. Just tag him and be on your way.
Tag me for thinking an inappropriate question from a nurse is a strange thing to make the title and lede about in an article that contains multiple drastically bigger issues? What does that tag look like, exactly?
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GranAures
08/15/23 4:54:30 AM
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We know. The article shouldn't show the entire pattern of the people who should be caring for the victim failing them. How dare they point out that poor nurse just assuming a young black girl was being promiscuous.

I know my first thought when I see a pregnant younger teen is toooootalllyyy the same./s

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spikethedevil
08/15/23 5:27:53 AM
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The nurse should be fired and struck off and the racist ass Police Chief should also be fired.

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Tenlaar
08/15/23 6:34:34 AM
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GranAures posted...
We know. The article shouldn't show the entire pattern of the people who should be caring for the victim failing them. How dare they point out that poor nurse just assuming a young black girl was being promiscuous.

I know my first thought when I see a pregnant younger teen is toooootalllyyy the same./s
I dont know what youre getting out of trying to make it out like I said the author shouldnt have said that instead of thats it odd to me to use that as the title and lede when its literally just one sentence about that and then moves on to the rape, lack of abortion options, and horrible police response. You guys are stretching so hard to make this a big deal and its weird.
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Guns_of_Verdun
08/15/23 6:36:11 AM
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Mississippi

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Solar_Crimson
08/15/23 6:37:59 AM
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Typical Red state.

NoxObscuras posted...
So... Can the baby's DNA be used to find out who the dad is? Or is it useless without him coming forward? Because it's fucked that she was forced to give birth to this baby and the man involved hasn't had the book thrown at him.
Getting the baby's DNA only works if the culprit's own DNA is already on record (government or military worker, previous criminal past, etc.).

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Charismic_Zach_Gowen
08/15/23 6:43:11 AM
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invertedlegdrop posted...
really needs to for Hawaii right now, those folk need some help...

I know the right is desperate to make an unexpected massive fire be Biden's Katrina, but this is an especially sad attempt given it's been nearly a week since
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/08/10/president-joseph-r-biden-jr-approves-hawaii-disaster-declaration-3/

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GranAures
08/15/23 8:57:26 AM
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Tenlaar posted...
thats it odd to me to use that as the title and lede

GranAures posted...
As the title, okay, but it being included helps show a pattern of dismissal and lack of concern from people who should be helping victims. Instead, the same people tried to pass responsibility and showed a general lack of concern.
But yes. Sure is odd to include another of the people who should have been helping not helping. Seems like your big priority this time is to cover for the nurse who was more than happy to pin the victim as promiscuous.

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Tenlaar
08/15/23 11:28:24 AM
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GranAures posted...
But yes. Sure is odd to include another of the people who should have been helping not helping. Seems like your big priority this time is to cover for the nurse who was more than happy to pin the victim as promiscuous.

How am I covering for the nurse that I said was inappropriate and insensitive? You are weaving some nefarious ulterior motive to me thinking the article writers choice of title and lede is odd. I dont even know what youre trying to argue about at this point since you agreed that its an odd choice and I said I dont have any problem with it being in the article. You agree with what I said but youre still trying to be confrontational and paint me in some evil light about it. Its fucking weird, man.
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AP3Brain
08/15/23 11:29:48 AM
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Fuck pro-birth conservatives. This shit is disgusting. All I have to say.
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name_unknown
08/15/23 11:36:23 AM
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Shit hole states pro child rape and forced birth.
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itachi15243
08/15/23 11:41:23 AM
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No guys, remember, Tenlaar is NOT a Trumper, or even a Republican for that matter. He is more left than the leftist man here. All he's doing is asking the important questions.

/s just in case lmao

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GranAures
08/15/23 11:45:52 AM
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Tenlaar posted...
I said I dont have any problem with it being in the article
Everything you've said about it has been it's odd that it's the title and lede. You've made no other statement about it before now. Even went back and checked.
Tenlaar posted...
when its literally just one sentence about that
Unless this is supposed to be read as "I don't have a problem with it."

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Tenlaar
08/15/23 12:16:02 PM
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itachi15243 posted...
No guys, remember, Tenlaar is NOT a Trumper, or even a Republican for that matter. He is more left than the leftist man here. All he's doing is asking the important questions.

/s just in case lmao
What have I said that you think associates to being a Trump supporter? Thats really out of left field.

GranAures posted...
Everything you've said about it has been it's odd that it's the title and lede. You've made no other statement about it before now. Even went back and checked.

Unless this is supposed to be read as "I don't have a problem with it."
I said I dont know what youre getting out of trying to make it seem like I think it shouldnt be part of the article. If you werent able to understand that means its not true then I dont know what to tell you.

Cool how you just ignored the part about you agreeing with what I said yet still trying to paint me as somehow being pro-poor treatment of rape victims, though.
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Questionmarktarius
08/15/23 12:18:34 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
Cool how you just ignored the part about you agreeing with what I said yet still trying to paint me as somehow being pro-poor treatment of rape victims, though.
Did the nurse even know that?
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GranAures
08/15/23 12:22:07 PM
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Almost like I was only addressing that. But hey, yeah, I do agree that the title being that is odd but I managed to make posts about the topic at hand beyond repeating how odd the title was where every post you have made, save for directly talking specifically to other users about them, has been about how it's odd.

Nearly every post, "this is odd" "this is odd" "this is odd" as a singular focus. We get it, you think it's odd and it seems your only concern is to remind us every post how odd you find it.

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InTheEyesOfFire
08/15/23 1:39:36 PM
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Not surprising, most nurses have always sucked.

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Tenlaar
08/15/23 2:09:48 PM
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GranAures posted...
Almost like I was only addressing that. But hey, yeah, I do agree that the title being that is odd but I managed to make posts about the topic at hand beyond repeating how odd the title was where every post you have made, save for directly talking specifically to other users about them, has been about how it's odd.

Nearly every post, "this is odd" "this is odd" "this is odd" as a singular focus. We get it, you think it's odd and it seems your only concern is to remind us every post how odd you find it.
I kept repeating my original point because you and others kept trying to make it into something other than that, obviously. I didnt just keep posting it with no prompting and you damn well know that.
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