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CRON
08/16/23 10:03:19 AM
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A former employee came out with her experiences working for him and LMG and it's worse than you could imagine. Overworked, micromanaged, sexually harassed on multiple occasions, insulted, belittled. It got to the point where she began self-harming and ended up causing a serious leg injury just so she would avoid having to go into work.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1691693740254228741.html

And on Reddit there's someone pointing out how apparently LTT fanboys caused a child to commit suicide, and then the child's mother to commit suicide shortly after.

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El_Marsh
08/16/23 10:03:51 AM
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*shrug*

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AndreLeGeant
08/16/23 10:11:05 AM
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Other than sexual harassment, if actually sexual harassment, these are pretty weak allegations. "Overworked," "micromanaged," "insulted," and "belittled" are are nebulous allegations that are entirely subjective absent concrete examples. People don't cause others to self-harm. They do that themselves. If you're working for a YouTube channel, moreover, you're likely in a position to leave the environment if you don't like it.

I'd be curious how LTT "fanboys" (so not LTT) caused a child and the child's mother to commit suicide.

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ai123
08/16/23 10:16:57 AM
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Why would we expect conditions working for a company that makes YouTube videos to be better than any other type of company?

Because of your parasocial relationship with the host(s).

It's best to avoid them.


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Tyranthraxus
08/16/23 10:17:58 AM
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Illuminaughty rn wiping the sweat from her brow

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CRON
08/16/23 10:21:33 AM
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AndreLeGeant posted...
Other than sexual harassment, if actually sexual harassment, these are pretty weak allegations. "Overworked," "micromanaged," "insulted," and "belittled" are are nebulous allegations that are entirely subjective absent concrete examples.
ai123 posted...
Why would we expect conditions working for a company that makes YouTube videos to be better than any other type of company?
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1691693740254228741.html

This is one employee's account of her experience working there, and it's pretty messed up.

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Kloe_Rinz
08/16/23 10:23:58 AM
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AndreLeGeant posted...
nebulous allegations that are entirely subjective absent concrete examples
when the abused speak out, they are speaking the truth far more often than not
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Ushiromiya
08/16/23 10:32:29 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

What about this one in particular?

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AndreLeGeant
08/16/23 10:40:08 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
when the abused speak out, they are speaking the truth far more often than not
One person's "overworked" is another person's "highly motivated." "Insulted" for one person can be "banter" or "motivation" for another.

The link provided sounds like a horrible grind with a lot of high pressure to produce content because the algorithm favors constant new content. Otherwise it sounds like a poor personality fit.

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CRON
08/16/23 10:42:12 AM
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AndreLeGeant posted...
One person's "overworked" is another person's "highly motivated." "Insulted" for one person can be "banter" or "motivation" for another.

The link provided sounds like a horrible grind with a lot of high pressure to produce content because the algorithm favors constant new content. Otherwise it sounds like a poor personality fit.
I mean the person directly points out how an employee spoke up about Linus being abusive, and Linus himself went over to the employee and started accusing them of being mentally ill and being an attention seeker.

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ai123
08/16/23 10:42:26 AM
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CRON posted...
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1691693740254228741.html

This is one employee's account of her experience working there, and it's pretty messed up.
Accusations of sexual assault are serious, and should be reported to the authorities. If substantiated, they should be prosecuted. There's no leeway on that.

Accusations of name calling, belittling, etc., if true, are indicative of poor management, and a poor working environment. Sadly, these are legion. I don't expect companies that produce YouTube videos to be immune from this kind of toxicity. I think other people do, because they are invested in the persona of the presenter(s).

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AndreLeGeant
08/16/23 10:43:28 AM
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CRON posted...
I mean the person directly points out how an employee spoke up about Linus being abusive, and Linus himself went over to the employee and started accusing them of being mentally ill and being an attention seeker.
What if that is Linus's truth? People really do need to grow thicker skin. It's a YouTube channel ffs. Find another job if you don't like working for Linus.

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AndreLeGeant
08/16/23 10:44:07 AM
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ai123 posted...
I think other people do, because they are invested in the persona of the presenter(s).
This 100%. As a society, we have far too many people that are trapped in parasocial relationships.

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Tyranthraxus
08/16/23 10:45:58 AM
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I'm just gonna watch more reviewbrah. He doesn't have a company he just does everything by himself in one take

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CRON
08/16/23 10:46:45 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I'm just gonna watch more reviewbrah. He doesn't have a company he just does everything by himself in one take
Reviewbrah is the most pure YouTuber tbh

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Heineken14
08/16/23 10:47:25 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I'm just gonna watch more reviewbrah. He doesn't have a company he just does everything by himself in one take


MrChimeTime and WayneDang are better.

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voldothegr8
08/16/23 10:50:37 AM
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CRON posted...
Reviewbrah is the most pure YouTuber tbh
A national treasure

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Doom_Art
08/16/23 10:56:12 AM
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AndreLeGeant posted...
What if that is Linus's truth? People really do need to grow thicker skin. It's a YouTube channel ffs. Find another job if you don't like working for Linus.
Why are you so aggressively defending this dude

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Kloe_Rinz
08/16/23 10:58:38 AM
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AndreLeGeant posted...
What if that is Linus's truth?
then hes a shit employer and should go bankrupt because of it
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AndreLeGeant
08/16/23 11:00:20 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Why are you so aggressively defending this dude
I actually find his content annoying. I just think someone complaining that a work environment forced them to self-harm, etc., because of fairly minor personality clashes is over the top. The internet has given everyone main character syndrome, which means they have incredibly thin skin and cannot handle the slightest difficulties. The allegations paint the person as finding their "dream job" - very much a main character concept - and not being able to handle the psychological impact of it not being a dream come true but in fact a high stress slog.

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mario2000
08/16/23 11:03:06 AM
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AndreLeGeant posted...
I actually find his content annoying. I just think someone complaining that a work environment forced them to self-harm, etc., because of fairly minor personality clashes is over the top. The internet has given everyone main character syndrome, which means they have incredibly thin skin and cannot handle the slightest difficulties. The allegations paint the person as finding their "dream job" - very much a main character concept - and not being able to handle the psychological impact of it not being a dream come true but in fact a high stress slog.

>aggressively defending someone you don't like because you lack empathy

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CommonStar
08/16/23 11:04:41 AM
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People really finding LTT to be a very toxic working environment to be unbelievable is funny considering the recent controversy is about Linus' behavior/reaction to criticism and the rushed schedule of videos LMG has to release every week leading to so many damaging mistakes.

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Kloe_Rinz
08/16/23 11:04:53 AM
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AndreLeGeant posted...
I actually find his content annoying. I just think someone complaining that a work environment forced them to self-harm, etc., because of fairly minor personality clashes is over the top. The internet has given everyone main character syndrome, which means they have incredibly thin skin and cannot handle the slightest difficulties. The allegations paint the person as finding their "dream job" - very much a main character concept - and not being able to handle the psychological impact of it not being a dream come true but in fact a high stress slog.
its never acceptable to create a toxic work environment. you know that yet you defend it
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RchHomieQuanChi
08/16/23 11:05:25 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
when the abused speak out, they are speaking the truth far more often than not

Yeah, contrary to what people think, you typically don't go after people much more powerful than you without putting a massive target on your back....unless you're telling the truth.

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AndreLeGeant
08/16/23 11:06:26 AM
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mario2000 posted...
>aggressively defending someone you don't like because you lack empathy
I have a ton of empathy. Empathy doesn't mean you have to feel cheer someone for not being able to handle the adult world and then trying to weaponize their disappointment against others by blaming them for self-harm and accusing them of "sexual harassment" (which, unless I missed something, consisted of someone using the word "bitch" and saying "cool your tits," which is not even a female-specific saying). I feel bad that the person seemingly lacked the social skills and managerial skills to handle the job, but also lacked the maturity to just find another job because she had the expectation that this job was a "dream come true."

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AndreLeGeant
08/16/23 11:07:58 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
its never acceptable to create a toxic work environment. you know that yet you defend it
"Toxic" is a conclusion however. People being human doesn't make them "toxic." Toxic has to be the most overused word in modern language, up there with gaslighting. And they're overused again because too many people have main character syndrome and can't handle when they're criticized.

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RchHomieQuanChi
08/16/23 11:08:16 AM
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I say we just ignore that dude

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mario2000
08/16/23 11:08:31 AM
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AndreLeGeant posted...
(which, unless I missed something, consisted of someone using the word "bitch" and saying "cool your tits," which is not even a female-specific saying)

You cannot be serious here.

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AndreLeGeant
08/16/23 11:17:09 AM
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mario2000 posted...
You cannot be serious here.
"Don't be a bitch" is also not the same as saying "you're a bitch." Men say the same to other men. It isn't sexual harassment. Sexual harassment is grabbing someone's ass, using a position of power in an attempt to get sexual favors, etc.

Like I don't know how some people survived school or any social interaction if "cool your tits" is suddenly sexual harassment.

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Tyranthraxus
08/16/23 11:22:21 AM
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AndreLeGeant posted...
Sexual harassment is grabbing someone's ass,
No. That's assault.

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Maze_
08/16/23 11:22:44 AM
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AndreLeGeant posted...
Other than sexual harassment, if actually sexual harassment, these are pretty weak allegations. "Overworked," "micromanaged," "insulted," and "belittled" are are nebulous allegations that are entirely subjective absent concrete examples. People don't cause others to self-harm. They do that themselves.

wow

AndreLeGeant posted... "Toxic" is a conclusion however. People being human doesn't make them "toxic." Toxic has to be the most overused word in modern language, up there with gaslighting. And they're overused again because too many people have main character syndrome and can't handle when they're criticized.
This is just buzzword central...

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RchHomieQuanChi
08/16/23 11:26:46 AM
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AndreLeGeant posted...
"Don't be a bitch" is also not the same as saying "you're a bitch." Men say the same to other men. It isn't sexual harassment. Sexual harassment is grabbing someone's ass, using a position of power in an attempt to get sexual favors, etc.

Like I don't know how some people survived school or any social interaction if "cool your tits" is suddenly sexual harassment.

Man, you must have failed your sexual harassment e-learnings in your job training multiple times....

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Bass
08/16/23 11:27:10 AM
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Fuck Linus and his toxic company.

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Kai_Laguna
08/16/23 11:30:37 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Illuminaughty rn wiping the sweat from her brow
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Hornezz
08/16/23 11:32:27 AM
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AndreLeGeant posted...
fairly minor personality clashes

Just to be clear here, you're calling these allegations 'fairly minor personality clashes':

-I had come forward stating I had been inappropriately grabbed multiple times in the office, amongst other issues.
-I was told to "calm my tits", "stop being such a bitch", and other comments to similar effects.
-I was told I was chunky, fat, ugly, stupid. I was called "[r-word]" I was called a "[homophobic slur]"
-I was asked about my sexual history, my boyfriends sexual history, "how I liked to fuck". I was told that certain issues were "sexual tension" and I should just "take the co-worker out on a coffee date to ease it out
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Kamen_Rider_Blade
08/16/23 11:38:48 AM
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mario2000 posted...
>aggressively defending someone you don't like because you lack empathy
No, he's being logical, objective, & rational about the issue.

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Kloe_Rinz
08/16/23 11:39:24 AM
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Kamen_Rider_Blade posted...
No, he's being logical, objective, & rational about the issue.
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Kamen_Rider_Blade
08/16/23 11:40:53 AM
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CommonStar posted...
People really finding LTT to be a very toxic working environment to be unbelievable is funny considering the recent controversy is about Linus' behavior/reaction to criticism and the rushed schedule of videos LMG has to release every week leading to so many damaging mistakes.
You're also dealing with a small company that in the span of a decade grew from 4 people to 120 people

It's going to be hard to get everybody on the same page, especially when you're a young company and "Linus Sebastian" is the 2nd-3rd oldest & most mature person on the staff.

Everybody else is SUPER YOUNG.

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cardoor123
08/16/23 11:47:20 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
Lmao
What they're saying makes sense. All the employees had to say was that they were sexually harassed and berated. The other stuff is just pointless fluff. I would imagine most people are overworked and micromanaged. That's the nature of actually working.
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mario2000
08/16/23 11:49:25 AM
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AndreLeGeant posted...
"Don't be a bitch" is also not the same as saying "you're a bitch." Men say the same to other men. It isn't sexual harassment. Sexual harassment is grabbing someone's ass, using a position of power in an attempt to get sexual favors, etc.

Like I don't know how some people survived school or any social interaction if "cool your tits" is suddenly sexual harassment.

Don't call people bitches at your workplace in any context ffs

Have you ever held a real job at any point in your life?

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DKBananaSlamma
08/16/23 11:53:05 AM
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Calling a man a bitch = he's cowardly and weak
Calling a woman a bitch = she's belligerent or unreasonable

They teach you this in like 3rd Grade English, brah

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CommonStar
08/16/23 11:55:09 AM
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Kamen_Rider_Blade posted...
You're also dealing with a small company that in the span of a decade grew from 4 people to 120 people

It's going to be hard to get everybody on the same page, especially when you're a young company and "Linus Sebastian" is the 2nd-3rd oldest & most mature person on the staff.

Everybody else is SUPER YOUNG.
It doesn't excuse the behavior and the treatment of their workers though. It seems like Linus and team is so used to their small company dynamic that they don't know how to behave in a bigger company. Their HR being runned by upper management of 2 people is also really weird.
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Gwynevere
08/16/23 11:57:24 AM
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AndreLeGeant posted...
People don't cause others to self-harm
This is a certified ? Block post

And by that I mean stupid and detached from reality

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theAteam
08/16/23 11:57:44 AM
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Someone here clearly hasnt ever taken harassment training at a job yikes

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DnDer
08/16/23 12:08:37 PM
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AndreLeGeant posted...
People don't cause others to self-harm. They do that themselves.

You are missing a big component about how mental health works in general.

Not cool, man.

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justaguy3492
08/16/23 12:10:28 PM
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There's a whole video of "what's it like to work for LTT" and the #1 answer is overworked and rushed (then the obvious, but we love it here!!!). Obviously a very toxic workplace. The "just quit if you don't like the treatment" crowd and the "just move if you don't like the politics" crowd are awfully similar.

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BewmHedshot
08/16/23 12:13:08 PM
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Madison was instantly my favorite LTT person after her PC upgrade video. Sad that the place seems to have become a Canadian hellhole. :(
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