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aarrgus
09/03/23 3:40:08 PM
#49:


Euripides posted...
The polite thing to do would be to finish the date, pay for dinner, politely say goodnight, then opt not to go on a second date.

This.

He should have treated it like any deal breaker you find on a first date... finish the date, have as best of a time as you can, then don't have a second date.

Instead he seemed to cancel the date because of this reason.

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Michael_Booth
09/03/23 3:40:36 PM
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Kimbos_Egg posted...
this is the most ignorant shit i've read all day.

So, by your own stupidity, gays and lesbians should continue dates with their opposite genders and sleep with them, other wise their bigots like you? Sure, keep believing that, buddy.

I think you should ignore them since if either you, or the quoted poster somehow thinks that "Lesbians and Gays" are somehow immune from being called "bigots" for having "genital preferences", I've got news for you:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-57853385
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hockeybub89
09/03/23 3:40:54 PM
#51:


Kimbos_Egg posted...
Are we really comparing the two?
Yes. Shouldn't everything about both parties be disclosed by the first date? Lest we find out later some preference checkboxes were not filled?

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Kimbos_Egg
09/03/23 3:41:01 PM
#52:


itcheyness posted...
So you want them to make themselves easy targets for hate groups?

not at all like meeting up with a potential violent bigot who's going to get angry and violent with them once they find out though, huh? Thats a far better outcome for you?

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AceAttorneyist
09/03/23 3:43:57 PM
#53:


Kimbos_Egg posted...
not at all like meeting up with a potential violent bigot who's going to get angry and violent with them once they find out though, huh? Thats a far better outcome for you?

Right. Shouldn't it be obvious that you tell them before meeting? Much safer that way.

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StealThisSheen
09/03/23 3:44:24 PM
#54:


Let's see some of RealisticDude77's other posts.

From my POV the Rebels are terrorists and needed to be put down.

If your cousin was Margot Robbie and she wanted to sleep with you, would you still do her? And if not, why?

Why doesn't Reddit introduce a feature where you can pay $$$ to get unbanned from sub-reddits or Reddit?

What have you "just slipped and fell on" during your life?

Ahh, yes, seems like a totally real, totally not a gimmick accou-... oh wait the account was deleted.

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hockeybub89
09/03/23 3:45:07 PM
#55:


Kimbos_Egg posted...
not at all like meeting up with a potential violent bigot who's going to get angry and violent with them once they find out though, huh? Thats a far better outcome for you?
Yeah, man, everyone should just live in fear of being murdered and preemptively announce their entire personal lives before any human interaction. Next you'll say women should know better than to dress too sexy near men they don't trust well.

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noisetank
09/03/23 3:45:34 PM
#57:


could have easily just finished the date and then said they didnt see a connection instead of being a jackoff about it.

also 99% of the posts on AITA are fake af, including this one lol

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Tenlaar
09/03/23 3:46:33 PM
#58:


If you dont have the commonly expected genitals for your gender I think you should let that be known before going out with somebody.

I dont think accusations of deception really necessary but I cant really fault somebody for feeling that way either.
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VampireCoyote
09/03/23 3:47:34 PM
#59:


I would have demanded dessert

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Gamespoht
09/03/23 3:48:48 PM
#60:


StealThisSheen posted...
If your cousin was Margot Robbie and she wanted to sleep with you, would you still do her? And if not, why
In another universe this would be a CE topic

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Cobra1010
09/03/23 3:48:57 PM
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Most stories on reddit are fake, it's all about the upvotes.

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hockeybub89
09/03/23 3:49:49 PM
#62:


Tenlaar posted...
If you dont have the commonly expected genitals for your gender I think you should let that be known before going out with somebody.

I dont think accusations of deception really necessary but I cant really fault somebody for feeling that way either.
Of course you can't fault them.

All of sudden some women have a moral obligation to give up their privacy so men don't get too upset over dealbreakers.

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Compsognathus
09/03/23 3:49:49 PM
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Unless there is a plan to be intimate, I'd say there is functionally no information that either party is obligated to share on a first date. Like the goal is to just see if you even click with a person at all. Nobody needs to be sharing all their deep personal info to a stranger that they very likely won't ever see again.

Now if you do hit it off and are considering additional dates, then you can start rolling out some potential "deal-breaker" information. And frankly something like gender-identity is probably best via text/call/DM anyway just in case the person is a violent fuckwit.

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ragnarokius
09/03/23 3:52:20 PM
#64:


ClayGuida posted...
Is it really dumber than the 'lesbians should fuck guys' post I just quoted?
Yeah, that was easily the dumbest.

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NoxObscuras
09/03/23 3:52:40 PM
#65:


MrMallard posted...
It's his right if he has a preference, but I do think he could have handled it with more tact and the last line there where he "told her what he really thought about her" seems kind of trashy and hurtful for the sake of being trashy and hurtful. And the one place I see "trans people in sports" as a persistent talking point in CE, and it's rarely productive. Dude is giving off red flags.

If he prefers cisgender women, he prefers cisgender women. I still think he showed his true colours at the end there and comes off looking like a wankstain. Not that I expect a fed topic to go well, but that's how I feel.
This is my take on it as well. Bunch of red flags from that dude.

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MrMallard
09/03/23 3:52:41 PM
#66:


I'm just gonna say, half of the most vocal CEmen in this thread haven't been online in even the other trollbait threads for like the past 12 hours. Then DP posts a thread that clearly isn't in good faith, and all of you start posting at once? Shit is silly.

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Crow0000
09/03/23 3:53:04 PM
#67:


noisetank posted...
could have easily just finished the date and then said they didnt see a connection instead of being a jackabout it.

also 99% of the posts on AITA are fake af, including this one lol
  1. No one is required or obligated to ever give you their time unless it's something that they paid for. IE a service or consultation, etc.
  2. You don't get to dictate how people feel or act
  3. If he finds out that the person is trans...then the logical thing IS to end the date if he's not into her. Why would he continue talking with someone who he clearly changed his mind about?
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Tenlaar
09/03/23 3:54:32 PM
#68:


hockeybub89 posted...
Of course you can't fault them.

All of sudden some women have a moral obligation to give up their privacy so men don't get too upset over dealbreakers.
Fuck all the way off with your implication that Im transphobic. The vast majority of straight men looking for women to date are not going to be okay with a penis and its not unreasonable to feel misled by somebody who was not upfront about something that is likely to be a firm deal breaker.
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AldousIsDead
09/03/23 3:55:02 PM
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Inohira
09/03/23 3:55:40 PM
#70:


Its not wrong for him to leave a date for any reason, but he was a bit of a jackass about it.

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Lobinde
09/03/23 3:56:15 PM
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He's not in the wrong, but only because this reads like a fake "and then everybody clapped" story.

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Crow0000
09/03/23 3:56:59 PM
#72:


Euripides posted...
The polite thing to do would be to finish the date, pay for dinner, politely say goodnight, then opt not to go on a second date.
This...absolutely makes no sense

For one, the world doesn't revolve around "politeness". There is action, and there are reactions. If I'm on a date with a woman and she tells me something that turns me off completely, I am not required to give any more of my time to finish said date. Just like how a woman isn't required to be with a man on a date if he tells her that he's a convicted criminal.

Also, do some of you people lack any type of cue for social situations? If he finds out and is already angry, what is the logic of finishing the date? Hello?!

If someone is already angry/pissed off, then the date is done. There is no "saving" it. And at that point, it's more time wasted on both parties.
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I4NRulez
09/03/23 3:58:30 PM
#73:


Lobinde posted...
He's not in the wrong, but only because this reads like a fake "and then everybody clapped" story.

It is fake, its reddit lol

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bfslick50
09/03/23 4:00:05 PM
#74:


ai123 posted...
She is under no obligation to disclose her medical history.

He is under no obligation to date outside of his preference.

The 'wrong' thing would be not handling the situation in a sensitive and polite manner.

This, like how hard is it to finish a meal with a person you had no intention of fucking? Plus he found out on the first fucking date which is pretty damn early.

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Crow0000
09/03/23 4:00:05 PM
#75:


reincarnator07 posted...
There's nothing wrong with having a preference of genitals.

However, they were pretty assholeish about how they went about it. It's not deceptive to not mention that you're trans, it's self preservation, especially with how backwards many places still are.

Also maybe this is just me, but you can make friends even if there ends up being no romance. Seems a waste of an evening to just end it halfway because you can't get your dick wet.

Ultimately, his date dodged a bullet here, good for her.
  1. Making friends with people you have absolutely no interest in is pointless. The man came to have a date and with the intent of getting a relationship.
This is the equivalent to me meeting a woman on tinder, her telling me she just wants to be friends, and me going "WELP, GUESS WE ARE FRIENDS"

He didn't come to a party. He didn't come to an event. He came for the intent of potentially having a casual hook up or relationship.

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09/03/23 4:01:21 PM
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09/03/23 4:01:25 PM
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Euripides
09/03/23 4:01:29 PM
#76:


Crow0000 posted...
This...absolutely makes no sense

For one, the world doesn't revolve around "politeness". There is action, and there are reactions. If I'm on a date with a woman and she tells me something that turns me off completely, I am not required to give any more of my time to finish said date. Just like how a woman isn't required to be with a man on a date if he tells her that he's a convicted criminal.

Also, do some of you people lack any type of cue for social situations? If he finds out and is already angry, what is the logic of finishing the date? Hello?!

If someone is already angry/pissed off, then the date is done. There is no "saving" it. And at that point, it's more time wasted on both parties.

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Crow0000
09/03/23 4:02:09 PM
#77:


bfslick50 posted...
This, like how hard is it to finish a meal with a person you had no intention of fucking? Plus he found out on the first fucking date which is pretty damn early.
  1. Because he's no longer interested in her
  2. If he's no longer interested in her, there is 0 point to the conversation if he has no interest in said conversation
You're not obligated to anyone's time. If a woman goes on a date with you, she doesn't owe you shit if she gets turned off by something you say. Likewise if a guy gets turned off by something from a woman.

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Metal_Gear_Raxis
09/03/23 4:03:02 PM
#78:


Having a preference is fine, but he handled breaking off the date with an utter lack of tact. Accusing her of "deceiving" him was particularly yikesy.

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Euripides
09/03/23 4:03:12 PM
#79:


Crow0000 posted...
1. Because he's no longer interested in her
2. If he's no longer interested in her, there is 0 point to the conversation if he has no interest in said conversation
You're not obligated to anyone's time. If a woman goes on a date with you, she doesn't owe you shit if she gets turned off by something you say. Likewise if a guy gets turned off by something from a woman.

You.Are.Not.Obligated.To.Anyones.Time.

You are very angry about this. You're also battling straw men.

Neither I (nor anyone else) is saying anyone is OBLIGATED to anything. We're simply saying that there were better ways to handle this.

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Crow0000
09/03/23 4:03:41 PM
#80:


Ending a date early is beneficial for both parties because it decreases the chance for any further confrontation, argument, or animosity .
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Euripides
09/03/23 4:04:33 PM
#81:


Crow0000 posted...
Ending a date early is beneficial for both parties because it decreases the chance for any further confrontation, argument, or animosity .

Great, then you fake a phone call or text and try to dip out with everyone keeping their dignity. You don't do what this (fake) person did

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Crow0000
09/03/23 4:05:07 PM
#82:


Euripides posted...
You are very angry about this. You're also battling straw men.

Neither I (nor anyone else) is saying anyone is OBLIGATED to anything. We're simply saying that there were better ways to handle this.
What "better" way? He ended the date early. Paid for the bill, and left.

Both of these were the best ways about it. To say or imply that he should stick around is laughable. If I go on a date with someone and there is no chemistry, then why would I continue spending X amount of time talking to them? When I can leave, and put my time towards something else?

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AldousIsDead
09/03/23 4:05:26 PM
#83:


At least these threads make for easy tagging.

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CADE_FOSTER
09/03/23 4:05:53 PM
#84:


AldousIsDead posted...
At least these threads make for easy tagging.

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Euripides
09/03/23 4:06:25 PM
#85:


Crow0000 posted...
What "better" way? He ended the date early. Paid for the bill, and left.

Both of these were the best ways about it. To say or imply that he should stick around is laughable. If I go on a date with someone and there is no chemistry, then why would I continue spending X amount of time talking to them? When I can leave, and put my time towards something else?

This is some sociopathic behavoir.

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Crow0000
09/03/23 4:06:40 PM
#86:


Euripides posted...
Great, then you fake a phone call or text and try to dip out with everyone keeping their dignity. You don't do what this (fake) person did
Or you can just be real and upfront about what frustrates you, and leave. Faking stuff is worse because you're giving the other person the impression that you are still into them .

While if you outright mention that you are not into the date, you stop wasting your time and leave.
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09/03/23 4:07:30 PM
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VampireCoyote
09/03/23 4:08:14 PM
#88:


You can still enjoy a meal with a person even if youve decided not to fuck them

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CoyoteTheGreat
09/03/23 4:08:34 PM
#89:


bfslick50 posted...
This, like how hard is it to finish a meal with a person you had no intention of fucking? Plus he found out on the first fucking date which is pretty damn early.

Pretty much. The first date is when you'd expect to find out about anything that might deter you from future dates to begin with.

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Crow0000
09/03/23 4:09:11 PM
#90:


Euripides posted...
This is some sociopathic behavoir.
You're not obligated to anyone's time. If a job doesn't like a candidate, they are not obligated to still keep you around for the duration of the interview. If a woman doesnt like you, she isn't obligated to keep talking to you for the duration of the date. If a man doesn't like you, he isn't required to keep talking to you. The exceptions to this are things like paid services where you pay money for someone to do a service for you for X amount of time.
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BloodMoon7
09/03/23 4:09:14 PM
#91:


Euripides posted...
This is some sociopathic behavoir.
As a sociopath, I'd either just never go on a date in the first place or at least finish the date and go in the dumpster later to take home the leftovers.

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CoyoteTheGreat
09/03/23 4:10:42 PM
#92:


VampireCoyote posted...
You can still enjoy a meal with a person even if youve decided not to fuck them

This too. Like, I'll never in my life understand people who decide to make a scene and ruin a perfectly good meal over the fact that... no fucking is going to be occurring.

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emblem-man
09/03/23 4:10:48 PM
#93:


Crow0000 posted...
What "better" way? He ended the date early. Paid for the bill, and left.

Both of these were the best ways about it. To say or imply that he should stick around is laughable. If I go on a date with someone and there is no chemistry, then why would I continue spending X amount of time talking to them? When I can leave, and put my time towards something else?

I mean, that's the risk of a dinner date as the first date. That's why I always aimed for coffee or going out for drinks. There's no time limit where it's awkward to leave, unlike leaving right during dinner.

The overall thing is, if someone told me some truly fucked up shit, then I agree with you. I'd get up and leave. But I don't see this deal breaker of them being trans as being so extreme as to require getting up and outright leaving in the middle of dinner.

Obviously you do, and that's where the disconnect is.

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Crow0000
09/03/23 4:11:56 PM
#94:


VampireCoyote posted...
You can still enjoy a meal with a person even if youve decided not to fuck them

CoyoteTheGreat posted...
Pretty much. The first date is when you'd expect to find out about anything that might deter you from future dates to begin with.
You can't dictate what someone should/shouldn't do with his or her time. And people are legally allowed to leave whenever they want so as long as other expenses are paid.

If someone gets turned off in an interview or date, you have no obligated to stay. Furthermore, if he was already frustrated...what kind of logic is it for him to stay even FURTHER?! When he'd likely get even more angry or resentful at her?

If a guy is already expressing frustration...then it makes 0 sense for him to stay even further. And it also makes 0 sense for him to stay for the duration because it wastes his and her time.
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Euripides
09/03/23 4:12:43 PM
#95:


Crow0000 posted...
You're not obligated to anyone's time. If a job doesn't like a candidate, they are not obligated to still keep you around for the duration of the interview. If a woman doesnt like you, she isn't obligated to keep talking to you for the duration of the date. If a man doesn't like you, he isn't required to keep talking to you. The exceptions to this are things like paid services where you pay money for someone to do a service for you for X amount of time.

I've never cut a job interview short mid-way because they weren't a good fit. What kind of shit take is this?

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Priere
09/03/23 4:13:13 PM
#96:


VampireCoyote posted...
You can still enjoy a meal with a person even if youve decided not to fuck them
But his goal for the evening was getting some. And wasting his time there was cutting into the process of finding someone else to bang.

Hes just being time efficient.

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Crow0000
09/03/23 4:13:27 PM
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CoyoteTheGreat posted...
This too. Like, I'll never in my life understand people who decide to make a scene and ruin a perfectly good meal over the fact that... no fucking is going to be occurring.
  1. Sex is a perfectly natural thing and people need to stop making it seem like being attracted to someone is a bad thing.
  2. Meals can be packed and eaten in a car, or at home.
  3. You're not required to stay with someone you have no interest in.
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