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MTRodaba2468
09/09/23 12:00:03 PM
#101:


wanderingshade posted...
So the only cool people are Topher, Laura Prepon and Wilmer Valderrama.
I don't know if I'd say that about Wilmer.

I obviously don't know for sure, but I'd heard rumors his relationship with Lindsey Lohan didn't start after she turned 18, for starters...

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mazingetter
09/09/23 12:50:08 PM
#102:


wanderingshade posted...
So the only cool people are Topher, Laura Prepon and Wilmer Valderrama.

Isn't he kind of a pedophile?
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wanderingshade
09/09/23 2:13:24 PM
#103:


mazingetter posted...
Isn't he kind of a pedophile?

I'm not up to date on the Wilmer Valderrama rumors.

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Kaldrenthebold
09/09/23 2:18:00 PM
#104:


wanderingshade posted...
I'm not up to date on the Wilmer Valderrama rumors.

Yes. He famously was dating Demi Lovato when she was 17 and he was 29. She has a song about it like another poster mentioned.

https://youtu.be/nmpBEoiuUBw?si=cE_olLs6XF2fPJhK

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Ferroseed
09/09/23 2:18:09 PM
#105:


VampireCoyote posted...
How many posts do you think you need to have about this? Five more? Eight?

Someone has a different view than you do, youll be ok

imagine having a melty because you posted something stupid and now youre mad people responded to your stupid post
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wanderingshade
09/09/23 2:21:28 PM
#106:


Kaldrenthebold posted...
Yes. He famously was dating Demi Lovato when she was 17 and he was 29. She has a song about it like another poster mentioned.

https://youtu.be/nmpBEoiuUBw?si=cE_olLs6XF2fPJhK

Yeah, okay Wilmer is kind of a creep.

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VampireCoyote
09/09/23 2:22:55 PM
#107:


Ferroseed posted...
imagine having a melty because you posted something stupid and now youre mad people responded to your stupid post

imagine thinking Im mad about anything at all today
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CommonStar
09/09/23 2:33:57 PM
#108:


MTRodaba2468 posted...
I don't know if I'd say that about Wilmer.

I obviously don't know for sure, but I'd heard rumors his relationship with Lindsey Lohan didn't start after she turned 18, for starters...
Also didn't Laura Prepon help silence one of Masterson's victim while she was in Scientology?
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Hayame_Zero
09/09/23 2:35:40 PM
#109:


https://twitter.com/MilaKunisv/status/1700439170601140263?t=vEnYCClQZDzhcaIhBeFidw&s=19

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cjsdowg
09/09/23 2:36:22 PM
#110:


Hayame_Zero posted...
https://twitter.com/MilaKunisv/status/1700439170601140263?t=vEnYCClQZDzhcaIhBeFidw&s=19

Shut up Meg

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VeggetaX
09/09/23 2:36:39 PM
#111:


Hayame_Zero posted...
https://twitter.com/MilaKunisv/status/1700439170601140263?t=vEnYCClQZDzhcaIhBeFidw&s=19
Does she know why?

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VampireCoyote
09/09/23 2:38:18 PM
#112:


VeggetaX posted...
Does she know why?

look at this topic for starters

people delusional think they are judge and jury about fucking everything

judging the rapist is one thing, its just a fucking witch hunt beyond that

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hockeybub89
09/09/23 2:39:24 PM
#113:


Hayame_Zero posted...
https://twitter.com/MilaKunisv/status/1700439170601140263?t=vEnYCClQZDzhcaIhBeFidw&s=19
Maybe you shouldn't go to bat for a fucking rapist just because he was your friend, Mila

His destructive cult tried to protect him enough. You don't need to join in.

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hockeybub89
09/09/23 2:41:22 PM
#114:


VampireCoyote posted...
look at this topic for starters

people delusional think they are judge and jury about fucking everything

judging the rapist is one thing, its just a fucking witch hunt beyond that
If someone I knew turned out to be a rapist, they would go from friend to scumfuck not worthy of being pissed on. Apparently the Kutchers are morally deficient.

You are only as good as the company you keep.

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Hayame_Zero
09/09/23 2:46:28 PM
#115:


I can understand trying to come to grips with a close friend or family member doing something heinous. It's why you see so many parents do the same thing for their kid who turns out to murder someone. It's an understandable response for loved ones.

However, writing a letter for leniency and trying to downplay it is the worst possible approach. They have no self-awareness to know they shouldn't have gotten involved at all. Mila was taken aback by DMs, and it's like she doesn't even know why.

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Gritty
09/09/23 2:48:15 PM
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The_Sock
09/09/23 2:52:10 PM
#117:


I am legit sad that Kurtwood Smith wrote a letter. I heard he was a really nice guy IRL and I really liked him as an actor. Now he's more like the villain he played in Robocop.

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hereforemnant
09/09/23 2:53:09 PM
#118:


hockeybub89 posted...
If someone I knew turned out to be a rapist, they would go from friend to scumfuck not worthy of being pissed on. Apparently the Kutchers are morally deficient.

You are only as good as the company you keep.
Him & a dude in another thread both took this approach & it went about the same both times lol

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VampireCoyote
09/09/23 2:55:05 PM
#119:


hockeybub89 posted...
If someone I knew turned out to be a rapist, they would go from friend to scumfuck not worthy of being pissed on. Apparently the Kutchers are morally deficient.

You are only as good as the company you keep.

You liked Leonardo the most didnt you

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DrPrimemaster
09/09/23 3:21:09 PM
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Something along the lines of the dms she has been receiving being frightening.

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gamestunner
09/09/23 3:21:33 PM
#122:


I'll never understand why celebrities rape people, when they can easily pay for it.

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voldothegr8
09/09/23 3:35:12 PM
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Nok_Su_Kow
09/09/23 3:40:42 PM
#125:


They really should have just walked away.
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refmon
09/09/23 3:41:59 PM
#126:


Hayame_Zero posted...
https://twitter.com/MilaKunisv/status/1700439170601140263?t=vEnYCClQZDzhcaIhBeFidw&s=19
what did she say?

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CARRRNE_ASADA
09/09/23 3:43:44 PM
#127:


gamestunner posted...
I'll never understand why celebrities rape people, when they can easily pay for it.


That's the point. When these people can easily get something, its no longer fun. They need something stronger to get high. Also the power trips.

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hereforemnant
09/09/23 3:45:52 PM
#128:


refmon posted...
what did she say?
Fucking hilarious how the tweet only had like 300~ likes or so when she posted it, but basically it was "Really shocked at the messages I'm getting from people right now ".

She advocated for leniency towards a convicted rapist & then was getting rightful hate mail calling her out, so then she deleted the tweet it looks like

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VampireCoyote
09/09/23 3:47:18 PM
#129:


CARRRNE_ASADA posted...
That's the point. When these people can easily get something, its no longer fun. They need something stronger to get high. Also the power trips.

and no amount of money would make them not be a rapist, they are simply predators

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A_Good_Boy
09/09/23 4:04:04 PM
#131:


KanWan posted...
like have you checked off every single facet of that example and really have a clean moral pool in which you arent guilty of that yourself? To the point you can demand someone else to contain the same moral truths?
I can safely say I've never raped anyone, so yes.

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Ivany2008
09/09/23 4:18:28 PM
#133:


Kaldrenthebold posted...
Yes. He famously was dating Demi Lovato when she was 17 and he was 29. She has a song about it like another poster mentioned.

https://youtu.be/nmpBEoiuUBw?si=cE_olLs6XF2fPJhK

I'm not saying what he did wasn't creepy, but technically age of consent in many places is 16. Hardly makes him a pedophile, but nonetheless he shouldn't have gone after her while she was at that age.

As for the topic at hand, the one thing I find interesting is this supposed tweeter.... or is it X'er now? claims to be one of the people Masterson was convicted on. I don't know much about the judicial system, but one would think that information wouldn't be public knowledge and would have some sort of gag order on it until the case is completely finished, which according to the messages, it isn't entirely closed.
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hockeybub89
09/09/23 4:24:26 PM
#134:


KanWan posted...
Why would it be sad? He didnt meet Hyde the rapist, he met Hyde the guy he worked with. For all you know hes condemning the idiot in his own and time and doing much more practical work in creating change than leaving it solely to a broken, unreliable legal system.

and the real reality of it is that people take the stance of moral and logical systems to cast shade but never actually take those morals and logical systems to their actual end

take going to bat for example

like have you checked off every single facet of that example and really have a clean moral pool in which you arent guilty of that yourself? To the point you can demand someone else to contain the same moral truths?

what about the idea of moral responsibility? Why would you funnel that into one strict line of reasoning and consider everything else to be null in the face of that?

people think they can keep dumping someone elses moral actions on someone else, its just stupid no matter how you decide to cut that cake

the idea isnt to excuse someone elses actions, its to ensure that person doesnt ever do something stupid like that ever again
I guess I'm just an inherently better person than the cast of That 70's Show. If someone is a rapist, fuck what you knew them as. "Yeah, he's a rapist, but I knew him as a good guy, so please don't punish him too hard for his heinous crimes!"

No one made them ask for leniency for a rapist. They could have just stayed silent. That's the minimum moral standard we should expect.

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Quorthon109
09/09/23 4:34:58 PM
#137:


https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1700601012288119236

Someone might need to check if they're being held captive by the Church of Scientology

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DrizztLink
09/09/23 4:38:05 PM
#139:


KanWan posted...
I think anyone with a brain can see right through this for what it is and if they had your brain theyd currently would be dubbing it disgusting how you just took two serious issues and used them to try and devalue a post that has no relation to the foundation of the meaning of those two words

like, thats some real gaslighting there and complete manipulation of other peoples mind to get them to agree with you on that flimsy basis

the act is disgusting, but youre just a dude on GameFAQS as far as Im concerned just as Mila or Ashton are just some people out there in the world

the real question now is, are you just as bad as Ashton or Mila for attempting to do what you tried to do in your post? Or does that suddenly not apply to you somehow? Lol

Vampire is completely right, its ridiculous how yall act
Considering how fucking disgusting your opinions have been here, the holier-than-thou wall of text is a bold strategy.

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voldothegr8
09/09/23 4:42:06 PM
#141:


Quorthon109 posted...
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1700601012288119236


I mean, they could and should have just said "nah, I won't write such a letter."

But they did. disgusting.


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hockeybub89
09/09/23 4:43:09 PM
#142:


<font style="vertical-align: inherit;"><font style="vertical-align: inherit;">KanWan posted...</font></font>
I think anyone with a brain can see right through this for what it is and if they had your brain theyd currently would be dubbing it disgusting how you just took two serious issues and used them to try and devalue a post that has no relation to the foundation of the meaning of those two words

like, thats some real gaslighting there and complete manipulation of other peoples mind to get them to agree with you on that flimsy basis

the act is disgusting, but youre just a dude on GameFAQS as far as Im concerned just as Mila or Ashton are just some people out there in the world

the real question now is, are you just as bad as Ashton or Mila for attempting to do what you tried to do in your post? Or does that suddenly not apply to you somehow? Lol

Vampire is completely right, its ridiculous how yall act
Quit while you're behind

"Can you guys safely say your morals would put you above defending a rapist?"

Actually, I can say that with fucking certainty.

And you asked a loaded question anyway. If someone backs down and says "No", you get to go "Ha thought so. Don't throw stones in glass houses. Humans are complicated." If someone says "Yes", you get to go "That's pretty stubborn. No one likes self-righteous assholes that believe they are perfect.:

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VeggetaX
09/09/23 4:43:24 PM
#143:


Being a good friend to others is hardly a good enough "characterization" to lessen a rape conviction. They're out of their fucking minds.

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hockeybub89
09/09/23 4:46:08 PM
#144:


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You see that kind of logic all the time here. There will be some story about some rich person being a criminal or a bigot and jokers will come in going "They've donated $10 million to saving puppies and random losers on the Internet want to cast judgment on them!"

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VeggetaX
09/09/23 4:49:14 PM
#146:


Are you doing a "Are you sure you have any room to talk and judge others"?

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The_Sock
09/09/23 4:50:08 PM
#147:


VeggetaX posted...
Are you doing a "Are you sure you have any room to talk and judge others"?

That's what it sounds like to me.

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DrizztLink
09/09/23 4:51:33 PM
#148:


The_Sock posted...
That's what it sounds like to me.
"You've said mean things about a rapist, ergo you are the real bad guy. Shame on you."

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