Current Events > How to stop being a "low value man" ( how the Red pill exploits you)

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LiberalAgenda8 posted...

So basically, you're shaming people for their preferences?

Uh... you are aware how you treated peeps who entertained out of app dating?

Self reflect.

you can have preferences just don't be a jerk about it . having a preference isn't an excuse to shame others for things beyond their control.

I don't have friends or want friends tbh. I can't be there emotionally for anyone anymore. But I don't try to date either cause I can't be there emotionally for anyone anymore.

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I'm literally an introvert/anti social and some of my best dates and casual relationships have been with those who were the complete opposite of me. Which are social butterly's who talk a lot or who have bunches of friends.

There's also a difference between not knowing how to speak to people or talk to people vs knowing how to talk and converse but not making the extra step to hang out with others. When you're in a customer service job, you learn how to talk to people. Or how to put on a persona. If the waitress is very nice and she's talking to you and seems engaged, that doesn't mean that she wants to date you or be friends. But it does mean that she has very good people skills if she is able to keep you engaged in a conversation.

Rabbit trying to save face... cute...

*ploop, pokes cheak*

BloodMoon7 posted...

I don't have friends or want friends tbh. I can't be there emotionally for anyone anymore. But I don't try to date either cause I can't be there emotionally for anyone anymore.

It's fine, I don't think said person was going on about it being bad if you don't. Just her preference, mind, just like yours.

Both are okay, just personal opinions not hurting anybody, just saying...

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Yup... reaction/instinct at this point. Conditioning.

Beveren_Rabbit posted...

you can be redpilled without being a bigot.

No

ChocoboMog123 posted...

Beveren, why's it called red pill? What's red pill mean? I have my notions, I want to hear yours.

Incels who really like the Matrix but try to ignore how it's about trans people

EthanSilver posted...

It's fine, I don't think said person was going on about it being bad if you don't. Just her preference, mind, just like yours.

Both are okay, just personal opinions not hurting anybody, just saying...

I don't consider it a negative personally. Makes it harder to meet people sure, but for people like me that's kind of the point. People say that it goes against human nature and you need companionship to survive but I've never felt that way. Even when it hurts, it doesn't hurt as bad as people can hurt you.

always get a weird vibe from Dr;K

his advice seems ok I suppose but I can't put my finger on it

of course it is him soft "counseling" people like XQC when I see him so it is weird content to begin with

WingsOfGood posted...

always get a weird vibe from Dr;K

his advice seems ok I suppose but I can't put my finger on it

of course it is him soft "counseling" people like XQC when I see him so it is weird content to begin with

Well,he tries to reach out to the people who we often label as "unhelp-able".
I mean there is a point, if we see anyone label as red-pill we throw them away. I mean it is easier to do but they are humans.

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I've seen this too...

Like "trying too hard..." though this is a completely different conversation, my general advice would be to just relax a little.

Don't force it either, because it can have the opposite affect sometimes. Besides, I'd be shocked, personally, if you found a decent person to get into a relationship with that was 100% about the confidence you have. Sure it helps, but it's not everything... think less of it, and more relaxed you'll be. And to me relaxed equals confident anyways. Nothing to prove... but yeah, it's not everything...

Being relaxed is how you get hurt. Always be on guard.

LiberalAgenda8 posted...

Being relaxed is how you get hurt. Always be on guard.

No. You have to quit it with your absolutes my dude. You're so narrowminded, A or B!

Besides, I didn't say to be relaxed to the point of not giving a shit about anything. There is nuance to this.

Reminds of that one saying a monk said, "a naive child trusts everybody, but only an idiot trusts nobody..."

You don't have to go too hard either one way.

LiberalAgenda8 posted...

Being relaxed is how you get hurt. Always be on guard.

Unless you're like me and you find out being constantly on guard was harming your health because you have stress and anxiety!

BloodMoon7 posted...

Unless you're like me and you find out being constantly on guard was harming your health because you have stress and anxiety!

Pretty much. Not that being "on guard" is always a bad thing... but like with almost everything, it's best to not think in extremes.

I trust no one

LiberalAgenda8 posted...

I trust no one

Maybe... but it doesn't necessarily mean it's an intelligent decision. Or one that work for everybody...

LiberalAgenda8 posted...

I trust no one

Same brother!

You should "on guard" around anyone you aren't close to.

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Gonna be real here, saying "yeah guys my hubby is 5'7 I totally don't care about height!" Is kinda, like, subtle admission that you may well might. Or "he makes less than me, he isn't athletic"

It is like saying:

"Why I chose my husband is all these amazing qualities!"
then you list them
then go "doesn't matter if he is ugly" or "doesn't matter if he has no legs" or "doesn't matter that smells really horrid" or whatever you could replace negative quality that somehow didn't stop you with.

Just keep that in mind if you say that near him he probably would take it personally though you might not can tell.

Your post would have been just as good if you removed the "my husband is 5'7," and the other parts kinda say he bad at this or that

10000000% this.

As I've told incels in the past.. my husband: He's kind, respectful, is in touch with his emotions, empathetic, he listens to me and my concerns, I don't believe he'd ever cheat on me, he can admit his mistakes, he can challenge me, I know if I'm struggling he can help me without taking away my agency. He is willing to help those around him. He's secure enough to allow me to hang with my friends and I provide the same respect in turn.

We share a lot of the same hobbies. He makes time for me. I make time for him. We split the chores.

All I wanted was a partner who respects me and I can respect back. I'm not alone here.

I'll also say.. I find intelligence attractive and he's brilliant <3

WingsOfGood posted...

Gonna be real here, saying "yeah guys my hubby is 5'7 I totally don't care about height!" Is kinda, like, subtle admission that you may well might. Or "he makes less than me, he isn't athletic"

I don't think that's fair... not only because some peeps brought up said concerns... but because they are some things that come up in our culture in terms of the dating scene. Whether you agree with em or not.

It doesn't have to be malicious. Again, I don't think you're being fair.

Sort of like I would date a "transwoman."

It implies that some might not, which is true, but it doesn't mean I'm being malicious. Or it doesn't have to be.

EthanSilver posted...

I don't think that's fair... not only because some peeps brought up said concerns... but because they are some things that come up in our culture in terms of the dating scene. Whether you agree with em or not.

It doesn't have to be malicious. Again, I don't think you're being fair.

Yea I understand in context it is addressing what the incels claim is a negative but there is also in a weird way going "despite that I still" confirming it is a negative.

Think of it like a guy says "my wife eats like a pig but she is so amazing yada yada"

wouldn't be a good thing to say

WingsOfGood posted...

Yea I understand in context it is addressing what the incels claim is a negative but there is also in a weird way going "despite that I still" confirming it is a negative.

That's how you take it, and one can indeed mean that, said poster...

But it doesn't mean it's necessarily so...

WingsOfGood posted...

Think of it like a guy says "my wife eats like a pig but she is so amazing yada yada"

wouldn't be a good thing to say

Sure, but there is much less context to that.

Not so with such stereotypes of men, like with height.

Where one can bring them up in a "it doesn't matter," in response to some peeps indeed making it an important aspect.

Or, it didn't just randomly pop up in a "vacuum."

Heck, there was a thread about men's height not so long ago on here...

I'm 5'4 and generally very small. My hands are so small and delicate that I carry around gloves to assist me with grip.

Beveren_Rabbit posted...

what are good youtube channels to learn how to be a better man?

healthygamergg is a good place to start. As a psychiatrist, Dr. K shares a lot of insights on mental health and human behavior and it can help one understand themselves better.

alpha m. is a charismatic dude who produces a lot of content around male grooming, style, fitness, etc.

Better Ideas makes content mostly around productivity and lifestyle tips.

Fd signifier he makes amazing content and he breaks down the manosphere and red pill content.

LiberalAgenda8 posted...

Watching something is completely and utterly different than being something.

Ok, fine. I'll revise the statement.

"No, being a believer in and follower of misogynistic redpill claptrap is what makes him a misogynist."

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/3/1/AAUJr4AAE3Nr.png

omniryu posted...

Fd signifier he makes amazing content and he breaks down the manosphere and red pill content.

He has made good content in the past, but on the other hand he's also a smoothbrain breadtuber who frankly turns more people away from the left than he brings in.

His unwillingness to honestly engage with people he disagrees with is just cancer for discourse, like when he tried to call Aba and Preach "uncle toms" beacuse they dared disagree with him. Tree of Logic I can kinda understand cause she's a bit wild, but the point remains.

I don't vibe with healthygamergg because he is super brutal with his male guests, but when it comes to female guests with the same issues as men he is super patient and understanding. he lets his bias get in the way of therapy which makes him super unprofessional. a patient seeking help should never be met with insults especially when his counseling is being broadcasted.

pogo_rabid posted...

He has made good content in the past, but on the other hand he's also a smoothbrain breadtuber who frankly turns more people away from the left than he brings in.

His unwillingness to honestly engage with people he disagrees with is just cancer for discourse, like when he tried to call Aba and Preach "uncle toms" beacuse they dared disagree with him. Tree of Logic I can kinda understand cause she's a bit wild, but the point remains.

He needs to just stay on course with some of the topics that needs to be discussed and he should be good. Arguing with others is kinda moot.

omniryu posted...

He needs to just stay on course with some of the topics that needs to be discussed and he should be good. Arguing with others is kinda moot.

Normally I'd disagree with debating but in recent years it's absolutely pointless. You'll never change anyone's mind, especially not people with an audience who relies on them to feed them opinions.

Beveren_Rabbit posted...

I don't vibe with healthygamergg because he is super brutal with his male guests

Do you have examples of this? I don't usually watch the interviews so I wouldn't know. I'm more interested in his explanations like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACI7xDjajPg

The one interview I saw with SomeOrdinaryGamers seemed cordial enough.

Cemith posted...

Normally I'd disagree with debating but in recent years it's absolutely pointless. You'll never change anyone's mind, especially not people with an audience who relies on them to feed them opinions.

The thing about debating, and I realize this over the years. It is a game about winning. Not about exchanging ideas, not about seeing fault. You might as well have a rap battle.

This topic has been great for populating tags

Beveren_Rabbit posted...

I don't vibe with healthygamergg because he is super brutal with his male guests

I'll also add that while you personally may not find this type of communication effective that doesn't mean others won't. Even if what you said was true, many prefer a style of minimal sugarcoating and it's the job of the doctor to adjust their communication style to best fit their patient.