Board 8 > Eccentric characters in Ace Attorney: Do they make the games better or worse?

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Haste_2 09/21/23 11:53:10 PM #1:	Consider the more extreme examples when answering this poll. - Results (59 votes) They almost always (if not always) make the games better! 18.64% (11 votes) 11 They make the games better more than half the time! 59.32% (35 votes) 35 I'm ambivalent about them in general. 6.78% (4 votes) 4 They make the games worse more than half the time! 10.17% (6 votes) 6 They almost always (if not always) make the games worse! 5.08% (3 votes) 3 Ace Attorney wouldn't be Ace Attorney without those crazy characters! --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So... what is a party?" "You drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." <cite>Haste_2 posted [p:976229774] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote> Consider the more extreme examples when answering this poll. - Results (59 votes) They almost always (if not always) make the games better! 18.64% (11 votes) 11 They make the games better more than half the time! 59.32% (35 votes) 35 I'm ambivalent about them in general. 6.78% (4 votes) 4 They make the games worse more than half the time! 10.17% (6 votes) 6 They almost always (if not always) make the games worse! 5.08% (3 votes) 3 Show Voting Form Ace Attorney wouldn't be Ace Attorney without those crazy characters! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UF8 09/21/23 11:56:21 PM #2:	definitely can't say they're all hits but they bring in a lot of personality. (noted oldbag enjoyer post) <cite>UF8 posted [p:976229812] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>definitely can't say they're all hits but they bring in a lot of personality. (noted oldbag enjoyer post)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NFUN 09/22/23 12:02:56 AM #3:	most of them are neutral to good but Hotti drags the average way down --- What can the harvest hope for if not for the care of the Reaper Man? <cite>NFUN posted [p:976229897] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>most of them are neutral to good but Hotti drags the average way down </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KCF0107 09/22/23 12:03:44 AM #4:	Having played, what, 7-8 Ace Attorney games, I would describe the majority of the cast as being eccentric to some degree. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy <cite>KCF0107 posted [p:976229910] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>Having played, what, 7-8 Ace Attorney games, I would describe the majority of the cast as being eccentric to some degree. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UF8 09/22/23 12:04:07 AM #5:	not gonna lie i nearly voted lower just because of hotti <cite>UF8 posted [p:976229916] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>not gonna lie i nearly voted lower just because of hotti</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 09/22/23 12:04:14 AM #6:	UF8 posted... noted oldbag enjoyer post Oldbag is fine in small doses. It's just that in 1-3 and AAI1, we get an overdose of her. 2-4 has a manageable amount where she doesn't become obnoxious, and that's the only case where I truly enjoy her. She's not bad in 1-3, we just get a little too much of her + S4L M4N3LL4. This is how most of them are. I'm perfectly fine with a good amount of them because they're not shoved down our throats. The reason I dislike 2-3 is because there are just too many eccentrics. And that's one of the only cases in the original trilogy that I've ever skipped by choice, the other being 1-5 due to its length. But yes, Ace Attorney wouldn't be Ace Attorney without a few whackadoodoos. It's what makes the game click. --- Help control the pet population. Have your pets spayed or neutered! RIP Bob Barker (1923 - 2023) - and thanks for all the memories. <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:976229919] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>UF8 posted... </cite><quote>noted oldbag enjoyer post</quote>Oldbag is fine in small doses. It's just that in 1-3 and AAI1, we get an overdose of her. 2-4 has a manageable amount where she doesn't become obnoxious, and that's the only case where I truly enjoy her. She's not bad in 1-3, we just get a little too much of her + S4L M4N3LL4. This is how most of them are. I'm perfectly fine with a good amount of them because they're not shoved down our throats. The reason I dislike 2-3 is because there are just too many eccentrics. And that's one of the only cases in the original trilogy that I've ever skipped by choice, the other being 1-5 due to its length.But yes, Ace Attorney wouldn't be Ace Attorney without a few whackadoodoos. It's what makes the game click. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 09/22/23 12:12:04 AM #7:	Hah, Oldbag was my first thought as well. Keep in mind, if we're talking about what they do for the series, we should also take into consideration how characters like Phoenix and Edgeworth react to them. I say on average they make it better. There are certainly a few flops but series would lose much of its charm without them. --- darkx Games beaten in 2023 - 7; Most recent - Professor Layton and the Curious Village <cite>Underleveled posted [p:976229999] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>Hah, Oldbag was my first thought as well.Keep in mind, if we're talking about what they do for the series, we should also take into consideration how characters like Phoenix and Edgeworth react to them.I say on average they make it better. There are certainly a few flops but series would lose much of its charm without them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UF8 09/22/23 12:16:17 AM #8:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJGU-U7pjEA <cite>UF8 posted [p:976230038] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJGU-U7pjEA</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 09/22/23 1:38:53 AM #9:	I'm taking this to mean the characters that are eccentric by Ace Attorney standards and those ones are definitely low quality almost all the time. They don't always actively detract from the game but I'm almost never glad to see them. I think the whole cast being a little eccentric makes the games way better though. I guess my overall take is that being eccentric is fine but there needs to be something else to your character too. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:976230796] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>I'm taking this to mean the characters that are eccentric by Ace Attorney standards and those ones are definitely low quality almost all the time. They don't always actively detract from the game but I'm almost never glad to see them. I think the whole cast being a little eccentric makes the games way better though. I guess my overall take is that being eccentric is fine but there needs to be something else to your character too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 09/22/23 3:17:03 AM #10:	The only really bad ones are Hotti and Meekins, but they're both really bad. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:976231547] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>The only really bad ones are Hotti and Meekins, but they're both really bad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 09/22/23 9:35:39 AM #11:	"User Leonhart4 likes the quirky characters in Ace Attorney," end quote! --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:976234974] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>"User Leonhart4 likes the quirky characters in Ace Attorney," end quote! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
azuarc 09/22/23 9:44:00 AM #12:	Kenri posted... I'm taking this to mean the characters that are eccentric by Ace Attorney standards and those ones are definitely low quality almost all the time. --- Only the exceptions can be exceptional. <cite>azuarc posted [p:976235095] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>Kenri posted... </cite><quote>I'm taking this to mean the characters that are eccentric by Ace Attorney standards and those ones are definitely low quality almost all the time.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 09/22/23 9:57:39 AM #13:	Leonhart4 posted... "User Leonhart4 likes the quirky characters in Ace Attorney," end quote! That creature. I can't imagine listing Hotti and Meekins while giving him a pass. --- "God Hand is the ultimate expression of the joy of humanity, specifically the punching part of the joy of humanity."-Shigeru Miyamoto <cite>paperwarior posted [p:976235311] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>Leonhart4 posted... </cite><quote>"User Leonhart4 likes the quirky characters in Ace Attorney," end quote!</quote>That creature. I can't imagine listing Hotti and Meekins while giving him a pass. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 09/22/23 10:02:56 AM #14:	paperwarior posted... That creature. I can't imagine listing Hotti and Meekins while giving him a pass. sweats from one armpit --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:976235410] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>paperwarior posted... </cite><quote>That creature. I can't imagine listing Hotti and Meekins while giving him a pass.</quote>sweats from one armpit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NFUN 09/22/23 10:04:09 AM #15:	I hate to say it, brushel and meekins grew on me. they were Good by the end --- What can the harvest hope for if not for the care of the Reaper Man? <cite>NFUN posted [p:976235430] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>I hate to say it, brushel and meekins grew on me. they were Good by the end </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 09/22/23 10:12:05 AM #16:	Brushel is a reporter and he seems like more of a freak than the psychiatric inmate and the inept cop having a nervous breakdown. His animations are straight-up uncanny. --- "God Hand is the ultimate expression of the joy of humanity, specifically the punching part of the joy of humanity."-Shigeru Miyamoto <cite>paperwarior posted [p:976235567] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>Brushel is a reporter and he seems like more of a freak than the psychiatric inmate and the inept cop having a nervous breakdown. His animations are straight-up uncanny. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 09/22/23 10:13:36 AM #17:	paperwarior posted... Brushel is a reporter and he seems like more of a freak than the psychiatric inmate and the inept cop having a nervous breakdown. His animations are straight-up uncanny. At first I thought he was twisting his tongue around his head instead of his tie and I didn't think that was out of the realm of possibility for him at all --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:976235588] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>paperwarior posted... </cite><quote>Brushel is a reporter and he seems like more of a freak than the psychiatric inmate and the inept cop having a nervous breakdown. His animations are straight-up uncanny.</quote>At first I thought he was twisting his tongue around his head instead of his tie and I didn't think that was out of the realm of possibility for him at all </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skulltrumpets 09/22/23 11:35:51 AM #18:	I fat fingered and voted for the wrong option. Fuck. Voted for ambivalence, meant to vote that they're better more than half the time. There's some exceptions (all my homies hate Hotti), but on the flipside other characters (Oldbag, my queen) bump that rating way up. <cite>skulltrumpets posted [p:976236975] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>I fat fingered and voted for the wrong option. Fuck. Voted for ambivalence, meant to vote that they're better more than half the time. There's some exceptions (all my homies hate Hotti), but on the flipside other characters (Oldbag, my queen) bump that rating way up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raka_Putra 09/22/23 11:59:20 AM #19:	"Eccentric"? That's, like, when things can shock and stuff, right? Anyway, they're more good than bad especially since hating on them (or seeing people hating on them) is still fun most of the time. --- "A blank page or canvas, his favorite. So many possibilities." - RIP Stephen Sondheim, 1930-2021 <cite>Raka_Putra posted [p:976237378] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>"Eccentric"? That's, like, when things can shock and stuff, right?Anyway, they're more good than bad especially since hating on them (or seeing people hating on them) is still fun most of the time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 09/22/23 1:24:10 PM #20:	There are only a few bad ones. These are the ones who tend toward offensive and outdated tropes/stereotypes. --- while you slept, the world changed <cite>colliding posted [p:976238823] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>There are only a few bad ones. These are the ones who tend toward offensive and outdated tropes/stereotypes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NBIceman 09/22/23 1:26:47 PM #21:	Kenri posted... I'm taking this to mean the characters that are eccentric by Ace Attorney standards and those ones are definitely low quality almost all the time. They don't always actively detract from the game but I'm almost never glad to see them. I think the whole cast being a little eccentric makes the games way better though. I guess my overall take is that being eccentric is fine but there needs to be something else to your character too. Yeah, this. Although I will note that I don't think Meekins is nearly as bad as consensus. Bad, sure. Just not "worst character in the series" material. --- Chilly McFreeze https://i.imgur.com/UYamul2.gif <cite>NBIceman posted [p:976238876] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>Kenri posted... </cite><quote>I'm taking this to mean the characters that are eccentric by Ace Attorney standards and those ones are definitely low quality almost all the time. They don't always actively detract from the game but I'm almost never glad to see them. I think the whole cast being a little eccentric makes the games way better though. I guess my overall take is that being eccentric is fine but there needs to be something else to your character too.</quote>Yeah, this.Although I will note that I don't think Meekins is nearly as bad as consensus. Bad, sure. Just not "worst character in the series" material. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
azuarc 09/22/23 1:43:53 PM #22:	My most recent Ace Attorney experience was GAA ep. 1 (which I will finish some day,) but most of the side characters in that are ridiculous in an annoying can-we-stop-watching-this-animation-already way. The Japanese defendant guy with his stupid flailing arms is among the most absurd. I could definitely do without all the jurors. Every witness goes beyond "having charm" into "okay, we get it already." I just generally wish they could have turned it down a notch or three. --- Only the exceptions can be exceptional. <cite>azuarc posted [p:976239169] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>My most recent Ace Attorney experience was GAA ep. 1 (which I will finish some day,) but most of the side characters in that are ridiculous in an annoying can-we-stop-watching-this-animation-already way. The Japanese defendant guy with his stupid flailing arms is among the most absurd. I could definitely do without all the jurors. Every witness goes beyond "having charm" into "okay, we get it already." I just generally wish they could have turned it down a notch or three. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bitto 09/22/23 2:13:52 PM #23:	I'd say the majority of eccentric AA characters are enjoyable. A large part of AA's enjoyment are animations and design, which are usually best shown by those characters. Yes, there's a few really weak characters, but all-in-all, it's definitely a highlight. --- SSBM_Guy "[Freud] started his scientific career by trying to explain the sexuality of a fish. And he failed." <cite>Bitto posted [p:976239732] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>I'd say the majority of eccentric AA characters are enjoyable. A large part of AA's enjoyment are animations and design, which are usually best shown by those characters. Yes, there's a few really weak characters, but all-in-all, it's definitely a highlight. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hbthebattle 09/22/23 2:22:41 PM #24:	Anagram posted... The only really bad ones are Hotti and Meekins, but they're both really bad. the problem with those two is that, for some unknown reason, they come back (in meekins case several times!) if zinc lablanc or whoever was in several cases people would hate him too! --- :) <cite>Hbthebattle posted [p:976239902] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>Anagram posted... </cite><quote>The only really bad ones are Hotti and Meekins, but they're both really bad.</quote>the problem with those two is that, for some unknown reason, they come back (in meekins case several times!)if zinc lablanc or whoever was in several cases people would hate him too! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DireKrow 09/22/23 3:50:18 PM #25:	I can't think of any AA characters I have a deeply negative reaction to. Cases sure, but the problems I have with certain cases are rarely things I would directly blame on individual characters. Also a) I'm quite tolerant of annoying tics, b) The silly characters often get entertaining reactions out of Wright/Edgeworth/etc. Like, I've never once minded Larry or Lotta or Oldbag or Meekins or Bushel or Leblanc or Hotti or Moe or whoever, even when they show up again. Honestly, if anything, I feel more positive about those characters than I do about Nahyuta, and he's supposed to be a major character. <cite>DireKrow posted [p:976241478] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>I can't think of any AA characters I have a deeply negative reaction to. Cases sure, but the problems I have with certain cases are rarely things I would directly blame on individual characters. Also a) I'm quite tolerant of annoying tics, b) The silly characters often get entertaining reactions out of Wright/Edgeworth/etc. Like, I've never once minded Larry or Lotta or Oldbag or Meekins or Bushel or Leblanc or Hotti or Moe or whoever, even when they show up again.Honestly, if anything, I feel more positive about those characters than I do about Nahyuta, and he's supposed to be a major character.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 09/22/23 6:07:39 PM #26:	azuarc posted... My most recent Ace Attorney experience was GAA ep. 1 (which I will finish some day,) but most of the side characters in that are ridiculous in an annoying can-we-stop-watching-this-animation-already way. The Japanese defendant guy with his stupid flailing arms is among the most absurd. I could definitely do without all the jurors. Every witness goes beyond "having charm" into "okay, we get it already." I just generally wish they could have turned it down a notch or three. The jurors in GAA (and Layton) are by and large notably worse. However, this tends to work in the advantage of jurors who end up actually being interesting/plot important. --- while you slept, the world changed <cite>colliding posted [p:976244204] in Eccentric ... [t:80573669]...</cite> <quote>azuarc posted... </cite><quote>My most recent Ace Attorney experience was GAA ep. 1 (which I will finish some day,) but most of the side characters in that are ridiculous in an annoying can-we-stop-watching-this-animation-already way. The Japanese defendant guy with his stupid flailing arms is among the most absurd. I could definitely do without all the jurors. Every witness goes beyond "having charm" into "okay, we get it already." I just generally wish they could have turned it down a notch or three.</quote>The jurors in GAA (and Layton) are by and large notably worse. However, this tends to work in the advantage of jurors who end up actually being interesting/plot important. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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