Board 8 > Which of these Final Fantasy games have you beaten?

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Considering FFXV Royal has been tossed out for, like, $10 buck on multiple occasions, or given away for free in others, I think chances are extremely high the percentage completion rate of that is FAR lower.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Considering FFXV Royal has been tossed out for, like, $10 buck on multiple occasions, or given away for free in others, I think chances are extremely high the percentage completion rate of that is FAR lower.

The percentage of people who own it, yeah. But I'm sure many more people own it than XVI at this point in time :p.

No doubt, hell I fucking hate it and returned it, and I still have it on my PS5 digitally. I don't even know where it came from!

But I have never even played II or XI, so obviously only 1 option here.

I would enthusiastically try XI if they did some kind of rerelease.

Just II. Working on XVI. Also working on XV... and XII kind of but got really bored early on in the remaster.

finished II GBA plus the Soul of Rebirth, don't own the others

XI when there was a free returners campaign like 2 christmases ago

(using an account I started like a decade ago but never used)

good game

only played FF1 on Dawn of Souls and for some reason never got around to FF2 and it's been like 20 years... going to play the pixel remaster at some point in the future to complete the non-MMO mainline FF set.

Just FF2, but am in the middle of an FF16 playthrough now.

I feel like FF11 and 14 shouldn't really count as "mainline" since they're online. They may well be good games, but MMOs are just different. Like, what does it even mean to "beat" an MMO? I haven't played one. Even if you could define beating it as finishing some quest, being able to 100% complete them sounds like an arduous task, based on how MMOs in general are designed.

FFXIV has a main story at least, I think? I haven't beaten it yet either, but I've played a little before getting bored.

Fiop posted...

I feel like FF11 and 14 shouldn't really count as "mainline" since they're online. They may well be good games, but MMOs are just different. Like, what does it even mean to "beat" an MMO? I haven't played one. Even if you could define beating it as finishing some quest, being able to 100% complete them sounds like an arduous task, based on how MMOs in general are designed.

They're more similar to regular games than you think. They have quests and stories you progress though, beating dungeons and bosses along the way, along with a final boss.

They just... keep going after that. Like, imagine if FF7R 2 and 3 were just added onto the base game through patches and DLC over time. I'd say that anyone who beats the original final boss "beat" FF11 or 14.

Fiop posted...

Like, what does it even mean to "beat" an MMO?

XIV has a primary campaign (MSQ) with a definitive ending for every expansion. It can absolutely be "beaten", and then you have a bunch of "post game" content just like most FF games.

If the argument is that you have to do 100%, then I doubt most people here have completed very many FF games at all, much less these 3.

Just XVI. Haven't even played the other two.

II and XVI

the only mainline games I haven't beaten/played are XI and XIV

2 and 16.

5, 11 and 14 are the only mainline games I haven't beaten (currently working on the former)

Only 2. Cant see myself ever playing 11. 16 is something Ill eventually get to.

my XI beating includes initial MSQ and all expansions up to Rhapsodies of Vana'diel - except for Abyssea because I ran into another boss that does Charm so I can't solo, but it's technically listed as "add-on" content different to the "expansion" term

all expansions have had a main story heroine - Lion for the initial MSQ + Rise of the Zilart which completes it, Prishe for Chains of Promathia, Aphmau for Treasures of Aht Urhgan, Lilisette for Wings of the Goddess, Arciela for Seekers of Adouline, and even Iroha for the finale Rhapsodies of Vana'diel post-content which requires completion of all expansions and brings them together

there's currently another MSQ post-RoV that's running, The Voracious Resurgence... *fake edit* oh it completed this summer

but as far as I can tell it doesn't even have a story heroine and it's weird because RoV was the perfect culmination of the entire game but *shrug* I guess I can't comment since I didn't start VR. not sure how soloable it is.

I'm only missing things from XI onward. Gotta finish

DragonGargoyle posted...

I should probably get started on XIV soon, idk how much longer it's going to be active for

Uhhhhhh this is not something I would worry about.

DragonGargoyle posted...

I should probably get started on XIV soon, idk how much longer it's going to be active for

...a very long time. they plan to go for at least another 10 years. i mean, consider XI is still online and even getting updates, i don't think you have to worry.

I wouldn't be concerned about XIV activity until a new FF MMO comes, and even then you should still have a couple years

and yeah like I mentioned XI even got new main story just this summer and that game's from 2002

I guess maybe the worry is that SE themselves could tank? XIV is really the main thing keeping the afloat from disasters like...most of their other games. Especially recently with stuff like Forspoken, Babylon, and Marvel.

MacArrowny posted...

They're more similar to regular games than you think. They have quests and stories you progress though, beating dungeons and bosses along the way, along with a final boss.

Isn't the basic idea that it's difficult to solo the different parts and you should be doing this with a party? I was kind of thinking that with a framework like that, a more non-linear structure made more sense and that it would be difficult to have a central story (e.g. what if there's a 5 minute long cutscene that you want to watch but another party member doesn't), though I suppose it's possible FFXI and XIV made it work somehow.

Parties for all the normal content in XIV are handled through matchmaking by default.

They've also been working their way through adding the option for AI companions to all the normal content as well.

Fiop posted...

. what if there's a 5 minute long cutscene that you want to watch but another party member doesn't)

They had this problem in A Realm Reborn (I think fixed now?) , but long cutscenes don't happen during group content anymore. It's all after the fight or before you even queue for it. Mid fight cutscenes are either unskippable (SB Shiva...) or super short.

But man....I can't imagine they haven't fixed the The Tam-Tara Deepcroft problem yet, right? I know they fixed the DUNGEON, but I don't know if they fixed the cutscene.

XI & XIV both have a Trusts system that lets you beat content with NPC allies

also though I mean honestly XIV's matchmaking system makes it a complete non-issue to party with randoms for necessary content. In XI you don't have that, you either have to socialize & find people to help you or you're relying entirely on Trusts

Systems are incredibly different though - in XI, normal field exploration does honestly expect you to have a party, so Trusts are NPCs you can actually summon to fight with you anywhere. In XIV you're only really expected to have a party for dungeons/bosses, most of the game / exploration is totally suited for single-player gameplay. You can party anywhere still but it's very much feels more like a boost in XIV than XI feels like you're just reaching parity with what you should be doing.

XIV Trust / NPC dungeons are pretty much the regular dungeon matchmaking experience except all your partners are now NPCs who only act following you. I like to do it on my first clears but otherwise I mean use the duty finder.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

I guess maybe the worry is that SE themselves could tank? XIV is really the main thing keeping the afloat from disasters like...most of their other games. Especially recently with stuff like Forspoken, Babylon, and Marvel.

Foamstars to the rescue!

Everyone should buy Paranormasight and Octopath 2 to save SE.

I played the Origins version of II and I think I probably got through most of it, but I didn't beat it.

MMOs have matchmaking now? That sounds pretty cool. My only experience with an MMO was watching someone play WoW the year it came out, so my mind is still there.

It still doesn't really make me want to play an MMO, though. One of the things I like about RPGs is managing a party and making characters work well together. It's one thing I don't like as much about FFXVI, since I can only control one (FWIW, I thought FF7R was decent with this, despite the action focus).

I can say I've never played those 3 games.

Fiop posted...

My only experience with an MMO was watching someone play WoW the year it came out, so my mind is still there.

Oooh ok this explains everything. I couldn't believe how outdated your takes on MMOs were but ok I understand now lol.

Waluigi1 posted...

I couldn't believe how outdated your takes on MMOs were

My takes may be outdated, but WoW was still two years after FFXI came out, so I assumed at least that game was a framework from around that time. Has FFXI changed that much since then?

It's over 20 years old so, yeah.

i played enough endgame of 11 to say i beated it despite not progressing past wings

nerd

XI is still very much an old MMO, it doesn't have the stuff like XIV matchmaking. menu navigation is pretty garbage

like you have to type /map to open up the map instead of for comparison XIV you just press M

also in XI you have to purchase maps for each area, until you do you'll get a blank page on your map that just say you don't have the map

I'm still a fan of the game but you absolutely have to reset your brain to early 2000s MMOs

you can use add-ons like Windower to like add a mini-map (that's still very shitty), or tell you when you can use Weaponskills in a skill chain (or magic burst)... which is honestly very strongly recommended and I have no idea how people play the game without that add-on

Beaten II, have not played XI or XVI

Overall:
Beaten: I, II, IV, V, VI, VIII, IX, XII, XIV
Played most of: III, VII, X, XIII, T
Played a bit of: XV
Have not played: XI, X-2, XIII-2, XIII-3, XVI, T0