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PiOverlord
09/29/23 4:53:20 PM
#1:


I would rather have all my accounts hacked and lose my identify and my money than ever have to do another 2FA.

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pikakaeru
09/29/23 4:54:28 PM
#2:


I disagree.

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Jupiter
09/29/23 4:55:06 PM
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Terrible take.

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Starks
09/29/23 4:55:45 PM
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Passkeys are going to be better

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09/29/23 4:56:10 PM
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TC sounds like a boomer
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Lord_Ephraim
09/29/23 4:59:49 PM
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I've only had 2FA with Nintendo.
One day when I used my mobile phone to use 2FA it just wouldn't register. At all. Nothing can explain it. The only way I was able to reset the account was to use one of the 10 one time use codes that I had to go digging for in the depths of notepad files on my computer.
However I never had anything hacked or breached with any online accounts ever to really warrant heavy use of 2FA. I had my Genshin Impact account breached but that was from a database leak from the devs themselves, the one time 2FA would matter but the game didn't have it.

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Gritty
09/29/23 5:00:20 PM
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pikakaeru posted...
I disagree.

Jupiter posted...
Terrible take.

Jupiter posted...
Terrible take.

Jupiter posted...
Terrible take.

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StealThisSheen
09/29/23 5:01:27 PM
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Yeah, definitely disagree. 2FA is pretty great. Sometimes it's annoying for like, 2 seconds, but I appreciate it, overall.

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A_Good_Boy
09/29/23 5:02:12 PM
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I'm constantly getting requests to enter codes generated by 2FA in a lot of accounts I have. I consider every single one of those as a victory against some hacker, and also as a reminder that I should really change my passwords.

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MarthGoomba
09/29/23 5:02:41 PM
#11:


It really is pointless and just opens up security holes

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StealThisSheen
09/29/23 5:04:33 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
It really is pointless and just opens up security holes

...How? Please explain, game developer.

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HudGard
09/29/23 5:06:53 PM
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As long as it has a remember this device option its fine.

I almost fucked myself over though when I upgraded a phone and didnt realize Google Authenticator is device-tied, not account-tied.

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Neoconkers
09/29/23 5:07:22 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
It really is pointless and just opens up security holes
lmao have you ever had a good take

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metralo
09/29/23 5:07:47 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
It really is pointless and just opens up security holes

This sounds like an elon musk take

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MarthGoomba
09/29/23 5:08:49 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
...How? Please explain, game developer.
Sim swap attacks

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ProfessorKukui
09/29/23 5:09:35 PM
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I thought it was webp

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CableZL
09/29/23 5:11:04 PM
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Nah, it's pretty necessary these days

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Neoconkers
09/29/23 5:11:41 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
Sim swap attacks
I literally respond to these cases as a consultant for a living and can tell you that the number of sim swap attacks I've actually seen in the wild I can count on one hand. and even then they got the password BEFORE the sim swap, so they would have been just as popped as if they hadn't had it at all.

besides, if you're going to tie 2FA to your phone then just get a fuckin authenticator app if you're worried about sim swaps

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StealThisSheen
09/29/23 5:17:16 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
Sim swap attacks

Okay, yeah, can't take you seriously anymore.

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Vokrent
09/29/23 5:17:49 PM
#21:


lmao no

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StealThisSheen
09/29/23 5:19:55 PM
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People against 2FA basically seem like people who make all of their passwords "Password1," to me.

Like, yeah, I get it can be potentially annoying for a few seconds, but... C'mon.

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R_Jackal
09/29/23 5:21:39 PM
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The biggest cause of getting hacked is still human error. I've known more people get hacked from literally giving their password away (or in a couple cases people literally beating login info out of them) than all the techno wizardry you see on TV. Well, for your average Joe at least. 2FA can't fix that, but it's not a bad safety net.
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Solar_Crimson
09/29/23 5:22:51 PM
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Jupiter posted...
Terrible take.


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StealThisSheen
09/29/23 5:23:32 PM
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R_Jackal posted...
The biggest cause of getting hacked is still human error. I've known more people get hacked from literally giving their password away (or in a couple cases people literally beating login info out of them) than all the techno wizardry you see on TV. Well, for your average Joe at least. 2FA can't fix that, but it's not a bad safety net.

2FA actually can fix that, to an extent. Even if you give your password away, the whole point of 2FA is that it notifies you when somebody is trying to log in from any location but your own, and even the dumbest person should realize "Hey, I'm not currently logging in to X..."

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Solid_Sonic
09/29/23 5:23:59 PM
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2FA is the single most annoying thing I have ever dealt with that I wouldn't want to live without.

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Pitlord_Special
09/29/23 5:24:52 PM
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Its saved my Steam before and definitely worth using for any account with monetary value.

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Solid_Sonic
09/29/23 5:27:01 PM
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I do wish I could remote to my phone when I'm on the same wifi network and get my 2FA codes without having to go physically get my device.

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R_Jackal
09/29/23 5:27:31 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
2FA actually can fix that, to an extent. Even if you give your password away, the whole point of 2FA is that it notifies you when somebody is trying to log in from any location but your own, and even the dumbest person should realize "Hey, I'm not currently logging in to X..."
A friend of mine has literally verified two hacking attempts on his email because they came from the same state.

I'm not a tech support guy but I've built and fixed and PC for a long time, and if it's one thing I've learned to be the absolute truth in this world it's that people never read shit fully.
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PiOverlord
09/29/23 5:27:49 PM
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I'm sorry guys. I'm a zoomer, and my attention span is fried :(

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lilORANG
09/29/23 5:28:18 PM
#31:


What exactly is bad about it? Don't you always have your phone on you? It's like an extra 3 seconds for solid protection

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StealThisSheen
09/29/23 5:29:01 PM
#32:


R_Jackal posted...
A friend of mine has literally verified two hacking attempts on his email because they came from the same state.

I'm not a tech support guy but I've built and fixed and PC for a long time, and if it's one thing I've learned to be the absolute truth in this world it's that people never read shit fully.

To be completely blunt, this isn't an issue with 2FA. It's an issue with your friend being an absolute dumbass beyond all reason.

We shouldn't fault 2FA when somebody goes above and beyond all reason.

Literally nothing can be 100% idiot proof, unfortunately.

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HANGtheDJ_86
09/29/23 5:29:42 PM
#33:


If it forces you to pay a cellular provider to have phone service then its bullshit

T Mobile dude must be laughing in his grave

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R_Jackal
09/29/23 5:29:45 PM
#34:


StealThisSheen posted...
To be completely blunt, this isn't an issue with 2FA. It's an issue with your friend being an absolute dumbass beyond all reason.

We shouldn't fault 2FA when somebody goes above and beyond all reason.
I mean my entire point was 2FA is a tool, and like every other tool, it's only as good as the user.

But I personally hate 2FA because it's a big part of how fucking prolific smartphones are in every day life. Still use it though.
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StealThisSheen
09/29/23 5:31:29 PM
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R_Jackal posted...
I mean my entire point was 2FA is a tool, and like every other tool, it's only as good as the user.

Yes, but your average user is not that dumb, is my point. That's why it's so useful. Even your average "dumb" user is going to realize "Wait, I'm not trying to use Netflix right now."

Are there edge cases? Absolutely. But there are edge cases for literally everything, and it shouldn't be used as a knock against 2FA.

We shouldn't use the 2/1000 that it doesn't work for to downplay its usefulness, basically.

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Sariana21
09/29/23 5:32:13 PM
#36:


On day well just all have chips in our heads for these things.

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Anteaterking
09/29/23 5:53:16 PM
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There was a mafia auto-moderation engine (i.e. it allows you to play games without needing one player to act as moderator) where some of the community was loudly demanding 2fa be added to the game even though your account was literally worthless as there weren't even long term game stats or anything.

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Waxitron_Gazer
09/29/23 5:57:26 PM
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i agree with you, OP. i have like next to nothing to steal so honestly it's gotta be more effort on the idiot who steals my identity's part lol

and 2fa is annoying as fuck.

wth i can't post fuck with a ton of u's? that's ridiculous.

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Ratchetrockon
09/29/23 6:11:33 PM
#39:


I started using it after my runescape account got hacked 7 years ago. I lost my party hats (blue,white,red, green, purple), santa hat, black santa hat,hween masks (had all three colors), xmas scythe and a couple of billion gp (was for runescape 3).

It made me paranoid

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Error1355
09/29/23 6:11:44 PM
#40:


I do agree that I wish I never had to deal with 2FA again, but also understand why it has to exist.

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StealThisSheen
09/29/23 6:16:01 PM
#41:


2FA is basically a necessary evil. Sure, I hate having to check my phone to log in to something, every now and then, but when I do the math on "worth vs. annoyance," the worth always wins.

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