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Devil_May_Cry 10/01/23 11:37:22 PM #1:	Donald Trump, the potential President of the United States, has been a subject of intense controversy and debate. His actions and statements have led many to perceive him as a divisive figure, with accusations of misogyny, racism, and a threat to democracy. This document aims to shed light on the concerns surrounding Trump's presidency, highlighting the importance of preventing his re-election for the sake of safeguarding democratic values. Numerous critics assert that Trump embodies qualities that are detrimental to the progress of society. Accusations of misogyny, emphasizing his derogatory comments towards women, have raised concerns about gender equality and respect for women's rights. Additionally, claims of racism have been made, citing instances where Trump has made inflammatory remarks targeting minority communities. These allegations have fueled a deep-seated fear that his presidency perpetuates a culture of discrimination and division. Beyond personal character flaws, Trump's presidency has raised concerns about the future of democracy. Critics argue that his approach to governance undermines democratic principles and institutions. Instances where he has attempted to silence the media, disregard the rule of law, and marginalize political opponents have created an atmosphere of uncertainty and erosion of trust in democratic governance. Such actions threaten the very foundation upon which democracy is built. Given the grave concerns surrounding Trump's presidency, preventing his re-election becomes paramount for the future of democracy. It is essential to prioritize the preservation of democratic values, which include inclusivity, equality, and respect for all individuals, regardless of their gender, race, or sexual orientation. By electing leaders who embody these values, we can work towards a society that is fair, just, and inclusive. The outcome of the upcoming election holds significant implications for the future of democracy. It is crucial to elect leaders who will prioritize unity over division, uphold the principles of equality and justice, and work towards healing the deep divisions that currently exist within society. By doing so, we can begin to rebuild trust in our democratic institutions and restore faith in the democratic process. Donald Trump's presidency has been characterized by controversy, with allegations of misogyny, racism, and a threat to democracy being at the forefront. The urgent need to prevent his re-election stems from the recognition that the future of democracy depends on it. By electing leaders who champion inclusivity, equality, and respect, we can strive towards a society that upholds democratic values and fosters unity. It is our collective responsibility to ensure that the principles upon which democracy was built are safeguarded and preserved for future generations. <cite>Devil_May_Cry posted [p:976423160] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Donald Trump, the potential President of the United States, has been a subject of intense controversy and debate. His actions and statements have led many to perceive him as a divisive figure, with accusations of misogyny, racism, and a threat to democracy. This document aims to shed light on the concerns surrounding Trump's presidency, highlighting the importance of preventing his re-election for the sake of safeguarding democratic values.Numerous critics assert that Trump embodies qualities that are detrimental to the progress of society. Accusations of misogyny, emphasizing his derogatory comments towards women, have raised concerns about gender equality and respect for women's rights. Additionally, claims of racism have been made, citing instances where Trump has made inflammatory remarks targeting minority communities. These allegations have fueled a deep-seated fear that his presidency perpetuates a culture of discrimination and division.Beyond personal character flaws, Trump's presidency has raised concerns about the future of democracy. Critics argue that his approach to governance undermines democratic principles and institutions. Instances where he has attempted to silence the media, disregard the rule of law, and marginalize political opponents have created an atmosphere of uncertainty and erosion of trust in democratic governance. Such actions threaten the very foundation upon which democracy is built.Given the grave concerns surrounding Trump's presidency, preventing his re-election becomes paramount for the future of democracy. It is essential to prioritize the preservation of democratic values, which include inclusivity, equality, and respect for all individuals, regardless of their gender, race, or sexual orientation. By electing leaders who embody these values, we can work towards a society that is fair, just, and inclusive.The outcome of the upcoming election holds significant implications for the future of democracy. It is crucial to elect leaders who will prioritize unity over division, uphold the principles of equality and justice, and work towards healing the deep divisions that currently exist within society. By doing so, we can begin to rebuild trust in our democratic institutions and restore faith in the democratic process.Donald Trump's presidency has been characterized by controversy, with allegations of misogyny, racism, and a threat to democracy being at the forefront. The urgent need to prevent his re-election stems from the recognition that the future of democracy depends on it. By electing leaders who champion inclusivity, equality, and respect, we can strive towards a society that upholds democratic values and fosters unity. It is our collective responsibility to ensure that the principles upon which democracy was built are safeguarded and preserved for future generations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 10/01/23 11:50:24 PM #2:	Devil_May_Cry posted... Donald Trump, the current President of the United States, Are you in a psychosis? <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:976423343] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Devil_May_Cry posted... </cite><quote>Donald Trump, the current President of the United States,</quote>Are you in a psychosis? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 10/01/23 11:51:23 PM #3:	Is this another helly alt --- What would Bligh do? <cite>Zareth posted [p:976423355] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Is this another helly alt </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Devil_May_Cry 10/01/23 11:51:49 PM #4:	BlackScythe0 posted... Are you in a psychosis? My bad I meant potential and our current President needs to call out the evil of Donald Trump more succinctly <cite>Devil_May_Cry posted [p:976423362] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted... </cite><quote>Are you in a psychosis?</quote>My bad I meant potential and our current President needs to call out the evil of Donald Trump more succinctly </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 10/02/23 12:02:44 AM #5:	Devil_May_Cry posted... our current President needs to call out the evil of Donald Trump more succinctly Nah. Biden is better off letting shit play out in the courts and keeping his focus on running the country as best he can, showing he can still lead effectively. He's never gonna win over Trump's MAGA base, and any direct involvement or escalation of provocation will play right into Trump's playbook of trying to convince the MAGA morons that all of Trump's legal troubles are a Biden/Deep State-orchestrated "witch hunt" Biden is much better off mostly ignoring Trump and letting him continue to dig his own grave. Save taking direct shots at Trump for the election games if it eventually comes down to that --- What's better than roses on your piano? Tulips on your organ. <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:976423537] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Devil_May_Cry posted... </cite><quote>our current President needs to call out the evil of Donald Trump more succinctly</quote>Nah. Biden is better off letting shit play out in the courts and keeping his focus on running the country as best he can, showing he can still lead effectively. He's never gonna win over Trump's MAGA base, and any direct involvement or escalation of provocation will play right into Trump's playbook of trying to convince the MAGA morons that all of Trump's legal troubles are a Biden/Deep State-orchestrated "witch hunt"Biden is much better off mostly ignoring Trump and letting him continue to dig his own grave. Save taking direct shots at Trump for the election games if it eventually comes down to that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 10/02/23 12:26:15 AM #6:	google Project 2025 --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:976423851] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>google Project 2025 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingDavid 10/02/23 6:52:29 AM #7:	Democrats just need to stop pissing people off. I understand people's frustrations with the Republican Party, but a lot of people including me are equally or even more pissed off at the Democratic Party due to it's wokeness, political correctness, cancel culture, the name calling and insults as witnessed on the now sacked Politics board, Reddit, and Twitter. Defunding the Police, Marxism being brainwashed into people at Colleges. Need I go on? If you care about the future of America and you don't want it to go down the drain which will most certainly happen if Trump is reelected. Then full stop all the things that are pissing off Republicans and Americans at large. Again, drop everything that's pissing people off for the greater good of the country. <cite>KingDavid posted [p:976426562] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Democrats just need to stop pissing people off. I understand people's frustrations with the Republican Party, but a lot of people including me are equally or even more pissed off at the Democratic Party due to it's wokeness, political correctness, cancel culture, the name calling and insults as witnessed on the now sacked Politics board, Reddit, and Twitter. Defunding the Police, Marxism being brainwashed into people at Colleges. Need I go on?If you care about the future of America and you don't want it to go down the drain which will most certainly happen if Trump is reelected. Then full stop all the things that are pissing off Republicans and Americans at large.Again, drop everything that's pissing people off for the greater good of the country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 10/02/23 7:07:55 AM #8:	KingDavid posted... Democrats just need to stop pissing people off. I understand people's frustrations with the Republican Party, but a lot of people including me are equally or even more pissed off at the Democratic Party due to it's wokeness, political correctness, cancel culture... Defunding the Police, Marxism being brainwashed into people at Colleges. Need I go on? Tell me you're drinking the MAGA Kool-Aid without telling me you're drinking the MAGA Kool-Aid... Those things you mentioned are all MAGA bullet points for whipping their base into a frothing mob, and are largely baseless, if not flat-out projection by MAGA talking heads and representatives. "Woke" political correctness is a toothless term used to describe people who want equal rights and treatment for everyone. "Cancel culture" is a right-wing bogeyman and a prime example of projectionist ideology, as many MAGA supporters love it when so-called "liberal" agencies and people get canceled. One example being MAGA clowns losing their absolute shit over a couple of Bud Light cans... "Defunding the police" has been twisted out of proportion by MAGA talking heads to mean taking money away from hardworking cops, instead of what it actually means, which is to reduce collective police departments responsibilities by allocating some of their budget to support personnel and/or agencies which can handle things like mental health emergencies, etc "Marxist brainwashing at colleges" is yet another bogeyman... GOP has a history of catering to the wealthy and corporations with regards to tax code, etc. No surprise they're trying to drum up new-age McCarthyism to defend their practice of giving tax breaks to the wealthy. Having tax money help the working class is not Marxism regardless of how much the GOP tries to sell it as such. --- What's better than roses on your piano? Tulips on your organ. <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:976426673] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>KingDavid posted... </cite><quote>Democrats just need to stop pissing people off. I understand people's frustrations with the Republican Party, but a lot of people including me are equally or even more pissed off at the Democratic Party due to it's wokeness, political correctness, cancel culture... Defunding the Police, Marxism being brainwashed into people at Colleges. Need I go on?</quote>Tell me you're drinking the MAGA Kool-Aid without telling me you're drinking the MAGA Kool-Aid...Those things you mentioned are all MAGA bullet points for whipping their base into a frothing mob, and are largely baseless, if not flat-out projection by MAGA talking heads and representatives."Woke" political correctness is a toothless term used to describe people who want equal rights and treatment for everyone."Cancel culture" is a right-wing bogeyman and a prime example of projectionist ideology, as many MAGA supporters love it when so-called "liberal" agencies and people get canceled. One example being MAGA clowns losing their absolute shit over a couple of Bud Light cans..."Defunding the police" has been twisted out of proportion by MAGA talking heads to mean taking money away from hardworking cops, instead of what it actually means, which is to reduce collective police departments responsibilities by allocating some of their budget to support personnel and/or agencies which can handle things like mental health emergencies, etc"Marxist brainwashing at colleges" is yet another bogeyman... GOP has a history of catering to the wealthy and corporations with regards to tax code, etc. No surprise they're trying to drum up new-age McCarthyism to defend their practice of giving tax breaks to the wealthy. Having tax money help the working class is not Marxism regardless of how much the GOP tries to sell it as such. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 10/02/23 7:58:25 AM #9:	Zareth posted... Is this another helly alt --- Software Architect / Code Janitor / Professional Sheep Herder <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:976427113] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Zareth posted... </cite><quote>Is this another helly alt</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup 10/02/23 8:24:35 AM #10:	KingDavid posted... Then full stop all the things that are pissing off Republicans and Americans at large. My guy, nobody outside of the far right is interested in catering to fascists. Everyone sees who Republicans really are, doing what they say is clearly an extremely bad idea, and the things they want and have grievance with are a total fabrication. The things you listed off are either made up, or twisted into being unrecognizable. When you say stop pissing Republicans off Republicans will never not be pissed off. Being pissed off about bullshit to bully people into doing what they say is all they have. The Republican identity IS being pissed off. --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:976427428] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>KingDavid posted... </cite><quote>Then full stop all the things that are pissing off Republicans and Americans at large.</quote>My guy, nobody outside of the far right is interested in catering to fascists. Everyone sees who Republicans really are, doing what they say is clearly an extremely bad idea, and the things they want and have grievance with are a total fabrication. The things you listed off are either made up, or twisted into being unrecognizable. When you say stop pissing Republicans off Republicans will never not be pissed off. Being pissed off about bullshit to bully people into doing what they say is all they have. The Republican identity IS being pissed off. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 10/02/23 12:13:09 PM #12:	KingDavid posted... Democrats just need to stop pissing people off. I understand people's frustrations with the Republican Party, but a lot of people including me are equally or even more pissed off at the Democratic Party due to it's wokeness, political correctness, cancel culture, the name calling and insults as witnessed on the now sacked Politics board, Reddit, and Twitter. Defunding the Police, Marxism being brainwashed into people at Colleges. Need I go on? If you care about the future of America and you don't want it to go down the drain which will most certainly happen if Trump is reelected. Then full stop all the things that are pissing off Republicans and Americans at large. Again, drop everything that's pissing people off for the greater good of the country. Yes it's democrats making people angry with made up nonsense that has nothing to do with the politicians. Meanwhile the conservative politicians (and judges) who are stripping us of our rights and freedom are totally fine. Fuck off with your both sides bull shit, it's time we as americans stopped voting for fascists. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:976430677] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>KingDavid posted... </cite><quote>Democrats just need to stop pissing people off. I understand people's frustrations with the Republican Party, but a lot of people including me are equally or even more pissed off at the Democratic Party due to it's wokeness, political correctness, cancel culture, the name calling and insults as witnessed on the now sacked Politics board, Reddit, and Twitter. Defunding the Police, Marxism being brainwashed into people at Colleges. Need I go on?If you care about the future of America and you don't want it to go down the drain which will most certainly happen if Trump is reelected. Then full stop all the things that are pissing off Republicans and Americans at large.Again, drop everything that's pissing people off for the greater good of the country.</quote>Yes it's democrats making people angry with made up nonsense that has nothing to do with the politicians. Meanwhile the conservative politicians (and judges) who are stripping us of our rights and freedom are totally fine.Fuck off with your both sides bull shit, it's time we as americans stopped voting for fascists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 10/02/23 12:21:39 PM #13:	Woke these days means you respect the 0.1% of people who are trans and don't act like they're degenerates destroying society. It's such a dumb term that if you actually say it in real life, you just come off as an absolute psychopath. Even some Fox News hosts realize that they can't go after such a tiny minority like that. But sure let's join in the trans bashing for some reason. That's how you deal with wrong people, you give them little wins here and there, that way everyone is at least a little wrong. The left in the UK is doing this right now and it's working out great. <cite>Yellow posted [p:976430821] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Woke these days means you respect the 0.1% of people who are trans and don't act like they're degenerates destroying society. It's such a dumb term that if you actually say it in real life, you just come off as an absolute psychopath. Even some Fox News hosts realize that they can't go after such a tiny minority like that.But sure let's join in the trans bashing for some reason. That's how you deal with wrong people, you give them little wins here and there, that way everyone is at least a little wrong. The left in the UK is doing this right now and it's working out great.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sodium-chloride 10/02/23 12:23:56 PM #14:	Initial post reads like something spit out of chatGPT <cite>sodium-chloride posted [p:976430855] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Initial post reads like something spit out of chatGPT</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 10/02/23 12:27:41 PM #15:	sodium-chloride posted... Initial post reads like something spit out of chatGPT I feel the same way. Which would make sense for a helly alt, helly has used AI to make posts in the past --- What's better than roses on your piano? Tulips on your organ. <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:976430920] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>sodium-chloride posted... </cite><quote>Initial post reads like something spit out of chatGPT</quote>I feel the same way. Which would make sense for a helly alt, helly has used AI to make posts in the past </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Entity13 10/02/23 12:35:52 PM #16:	TBF for AIs these days, those systems gather information and misinformation alike, and the latter shows in spades. Also, I've been saying this for the last three years: The Dems just have to not shit the bed in order to win this time around. That sometimes looks or sounds herculean, but it's all the Dems require. --- http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb179/EntityXIII/entityfn7.jpg <cite>Entity13 posted [p:976431054] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>TBF for AIs these days, those systems gather information and misinformation alike, and the latter shows in spades.Also, I've been saying this for the last three years: The Dems just have to not shit the bed in order to win this time around. That sometimes looks or sounds herculean, but it's all the Dems require. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 10/02/23 1:03:02 PM #17:	Entity13 posted... Also, I've been saying this for the last three years: The Dems just have to not shit the bed in order to win this time around. That sometimes looks or sounds herculean, but it's all the Dems require. Agreed, to an extent... but the GOP is pulling out all the stops to misinform their potential voters, and to manipulate/gerrymander the upcoming elections. They know they don't have the numbers and they'll pull every trick in the book and then some to make up the difference. Best to not allow for reticence or languidness with that in mind. Also, I'd love for the Dems to do more than just "not fuck up" and actually make some headway with meaningful policy, but given the current hyper-partisan climate I fully realize that's a tall ask --- What's better than roses on your piano? Tulips on your organ. <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:976431523] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Entity13 posted... </cite><quote>Also, I've been saying this for the last three years: The Dems just have to not shit the bed in order to win this time around. That sometimes looks or sounds herculean, but it's all the Dems require.</quote>Agreed, to an extent... but the GOP is pulling out all the stops to misinform their potential voters, and to manipulate/gerrymander the upcoming elections. They know they don't have the numbers and they'll pull every trick in the book and then some to make up the difference. Best to not allow for reticence or languidness with that in mind.Also, I'd love for the Dems to do more than just "not fuck up" and actually make some headway with meaningful policy, but given the current hyper-partisan climate I fully realize that's a tall ask </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Entity13 10/02/23 1:07:34 PM #18:	Right, and part of not shitting the bed is knowing how to counter the GOP's bag of tricks, preferably without cheating because one of the GOP's tactics is to accuse the opposition of cheating while cheating, themselves. --- http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb179/EntityXIII/entityfn7.jpg <cite>Entity13 posted [p:976431600] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Right, and part of not shitting the bed is knowing how to counter the GOP's bag of tricks, preferably without cheating because one of the GOP's tactics is to accuse the opposition of cheating while cheating, themselves. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shrek 10/02/23 2:19:18 PM #19:	Zareth posted... Is this another helly alt no, i wouldn't waste ai processing power on shit faced trump --- if i wasn't important then why would you waste all your poison <cite>Shrek posted [p:976432736] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Zareth posted... </cite><quote>Is this another helly alt</quote>no, i wouldn't waste ai processing power on shit faced trump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trivialbeing 10/02/23 2:51:35 PM #20:	this will be the most important election of our lifetimes!!!! just like every election <cite>trivialbeing posted [p:976433263] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>this will be the most important election of our lifetimes!!!!just like every election</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 10/02/23 3:23:41 PM #21:	trivialbeing posted... this will be the most important election of our lifetimes!!!! just like every election Well, it's not every election that one side is literally looking to suspend the constitution because of made up claims of voter fraud <cite>Yellow posted [p:976433839] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>trivialbeing posted... </cite><quote>this will be the most important election of our lifetimes!!!!just like every election</quote>Well, it's not every election that one side is literally looking to suspend the constitution because of made up claims of voter fraud</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/02/23 3:59:01 PM #22:	could you please edit this down to "Trump sucks bootyhole" thank you --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:976434429] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>could you please edit this down to "Trump sucks bootyhole"thank you </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 10/02/23 4:25:32 PM #23:	ReturnOfFa posted... could you please edit this down to "Trump sucks bootyhole" thank you Trump ... Orange <cite>Yellow posted [p:976434861] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted... </cite><quote>could you please edit this down to "Trump sucks bootyhole"thank you</quote>Trump...Orange</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler-X 10/02/23 4:32:30 PM #24:	Yellow posted... Woke these days means you respect the 0.1% of people who are trans and don't act like they're degenerates destroying society. The number I am finding online for the US is 1% and considering that is from surveys and taking into account the stigma that still exists, the numbers are obviously under-reported. --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler-X posted [p:976434976] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Yellow posted... </cite><quote>Woke these days means you respect the 0.1% of people who are trans and don't act like they're degenerates destroying society.</quote>The number I am finding online for the US is 1% and considering that is from surveys and taking into account the stigma that still exists, the numbers are obviously under-reported. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/02/23 4:33:25 PM #25:	Yellow posted... Trump ... Orange tru always found it funny that he's into fake tanning instead of plastic surgery. like his face is all old-man style but just painted. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:976434989] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Yellow posted... </cite><quote>Trump...Orange</quote>trualways found it funny that he's into fake tanning instead of plastic surgery. like his face is all old-man style but just painted. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 10/02/23 5:18:36 PM #26:	KingDavid posted... wokeness Aaaaaand there you go, thanks for putting it early so I didn't need to read your whole post to realize you have nothing of value to say --- What would Bligh do? <cite>Zareth posted [p:976435879] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>KingDavid posted... </cite><quote>wokeness</quote>Aaaaaand there you go, thanks for putting it early so I didn't need to read your whole post to realize you have nothing of value to say </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 10/02/23 5:20:59 PM #27:	Far-Queue posted... I feel the same way. Which would make sense for a helly alt, helly has used AI to make posts in the past Yeah that's why I wanted to know if this is a helly alt, that was his thing for a couple days --- What would Bligh do? <cite>Zareth posted [p:976435918] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Far-Queue posted... </cite><quote>I feel the same way. Which would make sense for a helly alt, helly has used AI to make posts in the past</quote>Yeah that's why I wanted to know if this is a helly alt, that was his thing for a couple days </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 10/02/23 7:13:24 PM #28:	Nichtcrawler-X posted... The number I am finding online for the US is 1% and considering that is from surveys and taking into account the stigma that still exists, the numbers are obviously under-reported. Yeah that's right. I'm bad with remembering exact numbers. <cite>Yellow posted [p:976437847] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Nichtcrawler-X posted... </cite><quote>The number I am finding online for the US is 1% and considering that is from surveys and taking into account the stigma that still exists, the numbers are obviously under-reported.</quote>Yeah that's right. I'm bad with remembering exact numbers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 10/02/23 9:53:25 PM #29:	trivialbeing posted... this will be the most important election of our lifetimes!!!! just like every election This is effectively just another "both sides" trash post. There has never been a candidate running for office who has previously tried to overturn the government. There has genuinely never been an election like this one before in US history. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:976440909] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>trivialbeing posted... </cite><quote>this will be the most important election of our lifetimes!!!!just like every election</quote>This is effectively just another "both sides" trash post. There has never been a candidate running for office who has previously tried to overturn the government. There has genuinely never been an election like this one before in US history. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 10/03/23 10:26:08 AM #30:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/8/5/AAZknmAAE5TV.png Just my lukewarm takes. --- Software Architect / Code Janitor / Professional Sheep Herder <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:976448279] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/8/5/AAZknmAAE5TV.png Just my lukewarm takes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Devil_May_Cry 10/03/23 4:30:49 PM #31:	Judgmenl posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/8/5/AAZknmAAE5TV.png Just my lukewarm takes. I really doubt Trump can win. That being said we should all still vote blue. I mean he is telling his voter base elections are rigged, why would they even vote lol? He has to be the dumbest politician ever and after Dubya that is a huge feat. <cite>Devil_May_Cry posted [p:976455596] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Judgmenl posted... </cite><quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/8/5/AAZknmAAE5TV.png Just my lukewarm takes.</quote>I really doubt Trump can win. That being said we should all still vote blue.I mean he is telling his voter base elections are rigged, why would they even vote lol? He has to be the dumbest politician ever and after Dubya that is a huge feat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 10/03/23 4:39:43 PM #32:	It's not just about Trump. It's about DeSantis and any other delusional populist out there. --- Software Architect / Code Janitor / Professional Sheep Herder <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:976455803] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>It's not just about Trump. It's about DeSantis and any other delusional populist out there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Devil_May_Cry 10/03/23 4:41:09 PM #33:	Judgmenl posted... It's not just about Trump. It's about DeSantis and any other delusional populist out there. Pseudo-populist. The vast majority of Trump and DeSantis policies are unpopular. They win on optics. Roe Vs Wade being overturned is very unpopular for instance like tax cuts to the rich <cite>Devil_May_Cry posted [p:976455840] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Judgmenl posted... </cite><quote>It's not just about Trump. It's about DeSantis and any other delusional populist out there.</quote>Pseudo-populist.The vast majority of Trump and DeSantis policies are unpopular. They win on optics.Roe Vs Wade being overturned is very unpopular for instance like tax cuts to the rich</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 10/03/23 4:42:28 PM #34:	American populism is about targeting electoral votes which means targeting rural voters. It's not about popularity. --- Software Architect / Code Janitor / Professional Sheep Herder <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:976455885] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>American populism is about targeting electoral votes which means targeting rural voters. It's not about popularity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 10/03/23 6:37:59 PM #35:	Populism means you advocate for ideas that help the common man (or at the very least pretend to). And yeah that's actually a definition because there are politicians dumb enough to not do that. <cite>Yellow posted [p:976458518] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Populism means you advocate for ideas that help the common man (or at the very least pretend to).And yeah that's actually a definition because there are politicians dumb enough to not do that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 10/03/23 7:00:28 PM #36:	I hate when politicians try to appeal to the 'working class' since I'm well below the working class and they think landlords are part of the working class --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:976458935] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>I hate when politicians try to appeal to the 'working class' since I'm well below the working class and they think landlords are part of the working class </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/03/23 10:11:57 PM #37:	Lokarin posted... I hate when politicians try to appeal to the 'working class' since I'm well below the working class and they think landlords are part of the working class I personally hate it because it's always horse shit personally. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:976462485] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Lokarin posted... </cite><quote>I hate when politicians try to appeal to the 'working class' since I'm well below the working class and they think landlords are part of the working class</quote>I personally hate it because it's always horse shit personally. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/03/23 10:13:57 PM #38:	Judgmenl posted... American populism is about targeting electoral votes which means targeting rural voters. It's not about popularity. Yellow posted... Populism means you advocate for ideas that help the common man (or at the very least pretend to). And yeah that's actually a definition because there are politicians dumb enough to not do that. Self-confessed 'populists' rarely if ever deliver on promises, so I fail to see how they are actually different from a typical Liberal or Conservative. That's what I typically see from those who describe themselves as such. People seem to have ideas what populism is about, but as far as American populism goes...it's an extremely thin veneer over top of a completely ass-normal politician or journalist. I'd be interested in people naming who they think are populists though. I usually see media figures like those from "The Hill" and "Breaking Points" call themselves populist and have on populist guests. I don't consider them to be different from typical fare, even though they brand themselves as 'alternative'. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:976462522] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Judgmenl posted... </cite><quote>American populism is about targeting electoral votes which means targeting rural voters. It's not about popularity.</quote>Yellow posted... </cite><quote>Populism means you advocate for ideas that help the common man (or at the very least pretend to).And yeah that's actually a definition because there are politicians dumb enough to not do that.</quote>Self-confessed 'populists' rarely if ever deliver on promises, so I fail to see how they are actually different from a typical Liberal or Conservative. That's what I typically see from those who describe themselves as such. People seem to have ideas what populism is about, but as far as American populism goes...it's an extremely thin veneer over top of a completely ass-normal politician or journalist. I'd be interested in people naming who they think are populists though. I usually see media figures like those from "The Hill" and "Breaking Points" call themselves populist and have on populist guests. I don't consider them to be different from typical fare, even though they brand themselves as 'alternative'. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup 10/03/23 10:28:15 PM #39:	McCarthy is out. They're probably going to make Trump the new speaker. --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:976462746] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>McCarthy is out. They're probably going to make Trump the new speaker. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 10/03/23 10:34:54 PM #40:	All these fascists want is chaos, people vote for them specifically to destroy the government. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:976462864] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>All these fascists want is chaos, people vote for them specifically to destroy the government. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 10/03/23 10:48:50 PM #41:	papercup posted... McCarthy is out. They're probably going to make Trump the new speaker. Is this even legal? Doesn't the Speaker have to be an elected member of the House? --- What would Bligh do? <cite>Zareth posted [p:976463091] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>papercup posted... </cite><quote>McCarthy is out. They're probably going to make Trump the new speaker.</quote>Is this even legal? Doesn't the Speaker have to be an elected member of the House? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 10/03/23 10:52:03 PM #42:	Zareth posted... Is this even legal? Doesn't the Speaker have to be an elected member of the House? I think I remember someone saying technically no? It's not a requirement in the constitution, but putting an unelected individual 3rd in line for presidency would be asking for chaos which is their singular goal. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:976463133] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Zareth posted... </cite><quote>Is this even legal? Doesn't the Speaker have to be an elected member of the House?</quote>I think I remember someone saying technically no? It's not a requirement in the constitution, but putting an unelected individual 3rd in line for presidency would be asking for chaos which is their singular goal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Count_Drachma 10/03/23 11:19:59 PM #43:	BlackScythe0 posted... I think I remember someone saying technically no? It's not a requirement in the constitution, but putting an unelected individual 3rd in line for presidency would be asking for chaos which is their singular goal. Yeah, just saw that myself. So fucking weird. However, it's always been a member and it probably always will be. --- Everybody's got a price / Everybody's got to pay / Because the Million Drachma Man / Always gets his way. AhahahahMMH <cite>Count_Drachma posted [p:976463543] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted... </cite><quote>I think I remember someone saying technically no? It's not a requirement in the constitution, but putting an unelected individual 3rd in line for presidency would be asking for chaos which is their singular goal.</quote>Yeah, just saw that myself. So fucking weird. However, it's always been a member and it probably always will be. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 10/04/23 10:26:45 AM #44:	ReturnOfFa posted... I'd be interested in people naming who they think are populists though. I usually see media figures like those from "The Hill" and "Breaking Points" call themselves populist and have on populist guests. I don't consider them to be different from typical fare, even though they brand themselves as 'alternative'. Trump is a modern example of one pandering for Republican votes and Sanders is a modern example of one pandering for Democrat votes. Platforms are almost always based on trying to appeal to low-information voters by suggesting extremely unrealistic policies. The also tend to be Firebrands, overly aggressive to try and get their bases emotional. --- Software Architect / Code Janitor / Professional Sheep Herder <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:976469494] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted... </cite><quote>I'd be interested in people naming who they think are populists though. I usually see media figures like those from "The Hill" and "Breaking Points" call themselves populist and have on populist guests. I don't consider them to be different from typical fare, even though they brand themselves as 'alternative'.</quote>Trump is a modern example of one pandering for Republican votes and Sanders is a modern example of one pandering for Democrat votes. Platforms are almost always based on trying to appeal to low-information voters by suggesting extremely unrealistic policies. The also tend to be Firebrands, overly aggressive to try and get their bases emotional. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 10/04/23 11:04:01 AM #45:	Judgmenl posted... Trump is a modern example of one pandering for Republican votes and Sanders is a modern example of one pandering for Democrat votes. Platforms are almost always based on trying to appeal to low-information voters by suggesting extremely unrealistic policies. The also tend to be Firebrands, overly aggressive to try and get their bases emotional. Is this seriously a both sides argument you want to try? <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:976470058] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Judgmenl posted... </cite><quote>Trump is a modern example of one pandering for Republican votes and Sanders is a modern example of one pandering for Democrat votes. Platforms are almost always based on trying to appeal to low-information voters by suggesting extremely unrealistic policies. The also tend to be Firebrands, overly aggressive to try and get their bases emotional.</quote>Is this seriously a both sides argument you want to try?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 10/04/23 1:49:08 PM #46:	BlackScythe0 posted... Is this seriously a both sides argument you want to try? Not at all. I would not consider Trump a Republican, nor would I consider Sanders a Democrat. --- Software Architect / Code Janitor / Professional Sheep Herder <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:976473144] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted... </cite><quote>Is this seriously a both sides argument you want to try?</quote>Not at all. I would not consider Trump a Republican, nor would I consider Sanders a Democrat. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/04/23 9:06:14 PM #47:	Judgmenl posted... Trump is a modern example of one pandering for Republican votes and Sanders is a modern example of one pandering for Democrat votes. Platforms are almost always based on trying to appeal to low-information voters by suggesting extremely unrealistic policies. The also tend to be Firebrands, overly aggressive to try and get their bases emotional. Disagree, these are just labels that some people applied to them, and the 'populist' label has become so broad as to be useless. Even in its early history, it was superimposed over other more prominent and more practical political descriptors of individuals. Bernie has never described his politics as populist and they never were until the 2016 media started running in circles. He's held the same political ideals for decades, and there were concrete descriptors for his positions back then that still apply. The ideals that Bernie holds have existed for a long time, and they already have labels. The definition of populism is by nature conflicted and broad. I don't find it useful. Describing him as a Democratic Socialist, as he does, or a Progressive is far more informative. If populism is defined as 'the people against the elite', well, there are dozens of other politicians that evoke this sentiment without being described as 'populists'. That definition isn't even solid, whereas it's inherent in Progressivism and Democratic Socialism to be in opposition to elitism. As for Trump - same thing. He's a Republican - I don't care what his former positions have been or the positions that he has contradicted. Sure, he says he's fine with gay marriage. He'll also support a majority of people that don't. If we're going with the general 'populist' definition of being 'against the elite', then he would be a Fake Populist, not an actual Populist. Regardless I don't find using the term useful and find it fairly theoretical, not concrete. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:976481250] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Judgmenl posted... </cite><quote>Trump is a modern example of one pandering for Republican votes and Sanders is a modern example of one pandering for Democrat votes. Platforms are almost always based on trying to appeal to low-information voters by suggesting extremely unrealistic policies. The also tend to be Firebrands, overly aggressive to try and get their bases emotional.</quote>Disagree, these are just labels that some people applied to them, and the 'populist' label has become so broad as to be useless. Even in its early history, it was superimposed over other more prominent and more practical political descriptors of individuals.Bernie has never described his politics as populist and they never were until the 2016 media started running in circles. He's held the same political ideals for decades, and there were concrete descriptors for his positions back then that still apply. The ideals that Bernie holds have existed for a long time, and they already have labels. The definition of populism is by nature conflicted and broad. I don't find it useful. Describing him as a Democratic Socialist, as he does, or a Progressive is far more informative. If populism is defined as 'the people against the elite', well, there are dozens of other politicians that evoke this sentiment without being described as 'populists'. That definition isn't even solid, whereas it's inherent in Progressivism and Democratic Socialism to be in opposition to elitism.As for Trump - same thing. He's a Republican - I don't care what his former positions have been or the positions that he has contradicted. Sure, he says he's fine with gay marriage. He'll also support a majority of people that don't. If we're going with the general 'populist' definition of being 'against the elite', then he would be a Fake Populist, not an actual Populist. Regardless I don't find using the term useful and find it fairly theoretical, not concrete. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 10/04/23 9:38:19 PM #48:	Bernie absolutely is not pandering for Democrat votes. Despite what the MAGA crowd thinks, the "far-left socialists" are an extremely vocal minority among Democrat voters. --- What would Bligh do? <cite>Zareth posted [p:976481848] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Bernie absolutely is not pandering for Democrat votes. Despite what the MAGA crowd thinks, the "far-left socialists" are an extremely vocal minority among Democrat voters. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 10/04/23 9:43:01 PM #49:	Zareth posted... Bernie absolutely is not pandering for Democrat votes. Despite what the MAGA crowd thinks, the "far-left socialists" are an extremely vocal minority among Democrat voters. When you poll all of Bernie's policies he's just a centrist among Democrats. It's more radical not to support single-payer in terms of voters, it's only radical in the DC bubble. Even Joe Biden's wife admitted once in an interview that Joe Biden's positions on healthcare "might not be as good, but..." He's just a Democrat from before the Clintons turned the party Republican-lite. <cite>Yellow posted [p:976481934] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Zareth posted... </cite><quote>Bernie absolutely is not pandering for Democrat votes. Despite what the MAGA crowd thinks, the "far-left socialists" are an extremely vocal minority among Democrat voters.</quote>When you poll all of Bernie's policies he's just a centrist among Democrats. It's more radical not to support single-payer in terms of voters, it's only radical in the DC bubble. Even Joe Biden's wife admitted once in an interview that Joe Biden's positions on healthcare "might not be as good, but..."He's just a Democrat from before the Clintons turned the party Republican-lite.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/04/23 10:05:49 PM #50:	Zareth posted... Bernie absolutely is not pandering for Democrat votes. Despite what the MAGA crowd thinks, the "far-left socialists" are an extremely vocal minority among Democrat voters. I agree with the second part, absolutely, but I don't really know what you're getting at with the first bit. Totally, Bernie isn't pandering, he just is who he is and has remained consistent. That appeals to a large amount of Democrats because he's fairly principled. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:976482418] in Trump can ... [t:80582834]...</cite> <quote>Zareth posted... </cite><quote>Bernie absolutely is not pandering for Democrat votes. Despite what the MAGA crowd thinks, the "far-left socialists" are an extremely vocal minority among Democrat voters.</quote>I agree with the second part, absolutely, but I don't really know what you're getting at with the first bit. Totally, Bernie isn't pandering, he just is who he is and has remained consistent. That appeals to a large amount of Democrats because he's fairly principled. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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