Current Events > SCOTUS denies Trump lawyer appeal. Clarence Thomas recuses.

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brestugo
10/02/23 12:28:38 PM
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https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4233719-supreme-court-denies-eastman-petition-with-rare-recusal-from-thomas/

The Supreme Court on Monday denied an effort by lawyer John Eastman to appeal a ruling that found he may have acted criminally with the legal advice he gave former President Trump. It spurred a rare recusal from Justice Clarence Thomas, whose wife corresponded with the California attorney in the weeks ahead of Jan. 6.

A federal judge in California found Eastman as well as Trump more likely than not engaged in criminal conduct in hatching a plan for the former president to stay in power after losing the 2020 election, including in a memo that urged then-Vice President Mike Pence to buck his ceremonial duties to certify the election results Jan. 6, 2021.

Thomass recusal comes after reporting that his wife, Ginni Thomas, emailed Eastman as well as Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows and Arizona lawmakers wrestling with pressure from the Trump campaign to look for ways to reverse the election.

The episode resulted in Ginni Thomas being called to speak with the House committee investigating the attack, and also triggered a renewed look at Thomass failure to recuse himself from other matters relating to Jan. 6. The justices actions have further come under the microscope following reporting he accepted a series of lavish gifts from a Republican megadonor.

The order says that Thomas took no part in the consideration of Eastmans petition.

The decision is the end of the road for Eastman, who has been fighting a ruling ordering him to release his communications surrounding Jan. 6 to the now-dissolved committee investigating the attack.

The ruling from U.S. District Judge David Carter greenlighted release of his records, allowing for the piercing of materials normally covered by attorney-client privilege something that can be granted only when a judge determined legal advice was given in furtherance of a crime or to carry out fraud.

The illegality of the plan was obvious, wrote Carter, who was appointed by former President Clinton. Our nation was founded on the peaceful transition of power, epitomized by George Washington laying down his sword to make way for democratic elections. Ignoring this history, President Trump vigorously campaigned for the Vice President to single-handedly determine the results of the 2020 election.

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Jagr_68
10/02/23 12:29:40 PM
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bye bitch.

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Tyranthraxus
10/02/23 12:30:35 PM
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brestugo posted...
recusal from Justice Clarence Thomas
Who are you and what did you do with Clarence Thomas?

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LearntoRead
10/02/23 12:30:37 PM
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Wait, Clarence Thomas recused himself? Holy shit, he seemingly never does that. We finally found a line, and it's his crazy-ass wife.
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brestugo
10/02/23 12:31:59 PM
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Jagr_68 posted...
bye bitch.

Yeah, IMO, Eastman was the architect from what's come out so far.

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AlCalavicci
10/02/23 12:35:22 PM
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How did they all vote, with Thomas out?

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brestugo
10/02/23 12:41:50 PM
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LearntoRead posted...
Wait, Clarence Thomas recused himself? Holy shit, he seemingly never does that. We finally found a line, and it's his crazy-ass wife.

Probably rather "give up" this guy, so to speak than have his wife subpoenaed again. She didn't come off looking too good the last time she was sworn in.

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BlueTigerLion
10/02/23 12:48:11 PM
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So what was the vote? Disappointed article didn't give where everyone voted just a result.

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Gray_Areas
10/02/23 1:02:10 PM
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brestugo posted...
The decision is the end of the road for Eastman, who has been fighting a ruling ordering him to release his communications surrounding Jan. 6 to the now-dissolved committee investigating the attack.
Soooooo.... what does this actually mean now? Who, if anyone, gets these communications and what can be done with them?
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TomClark
10/02/23 1:02:53 PM
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Tyranthraxus
10/02/23 1:03:32 PM
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Gray_Areas posted...
Soooooo.... what does this actually mean now? Who, if anyone, gets these communications and what can be done with them?

Jack Smith gets them I guess.

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darkace77450
10/02/23 1:05:57 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Who are you and what did you do with Clarence Thomas?

Given all the shit we've dug up on Thomas and Alito lately, Roberts probably insisted.
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brestugo
10/02/23 1:08:02 PM
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Gray_Areas posted...
Soooooo.... what does this actually mean now? Who, if anyone, gets these communications and what can be done with them?

Interesting question. What we do know is that Eastman can't claim attorney-client privilege for them anymore for starters. One of the legal eagles here can probably expand on that more.

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Irony
10/02/23 1:27:41 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
Given all the shit we've dug up on Thomas and Alito lately, Roberts probably insisted.
Okay but even if they refuse could Roberts even do anything

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brestugo
10/02/23 1:29:07 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
Given all the shit we've dug up on Thomas and Alito lately, Roberts probably insisted.
Even the SCOTUS can feel heat apparently.

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Tyranthraxus
10/02/23 1:51:49 PM
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Irony posted...
Okay but even if they refuse could Roberts even do anything
No. I think the only thing Roberts can do that other justices can't is command the US Marshalls and choose who gets to write opinions for whatever side he's voting on

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Derwood
10/02/23 1:53:22 PM
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He needs to recuse himself into retirement

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Sorozone
10/02/23 1:54:08 PM
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Thomas is 100% recusing to save his own ass. Him and his wife have too much smoke around him and the situation.

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Ruvan22
10/02/23 2:33:04 PM
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brestugo posted...
Probably rather "give up" this guy, so to speak than have his wife subpoenaed again. She didn't come off looking too good the last time she was sworn in.

What were the *highlights* of her last testimony?
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brestugo
10/02/23 2:48:21 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
What were the *highlights* of her last testimony?

Oversimplifying this but she was politely grilled about egging on the conspirators to do more to help Trump after the "stolen election". She said she had "deep regret" for her statements in the texts (and IIRC email) that had been presented as evidence of her involvement. I believe she also said she no longer believes the election was stolen.

Some people think she was even more involved than just egging on in all the post-election plots, including 1/6 - she knew almost everyone involved and is a major figure on the right - but no evidence of that has been found AFAIK.

IMO, I wouldn't want any more scrutiny though, if I was her...or her husband.

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brestugo
10/02/23 6:01:24 PM
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CNN reported that Eastman was also a former clerk of Thomas', so he was all kinds of mixed up with this guy:


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