Current Events > McCarthy is OUT as Speaker of the House!!

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Anyway Im confused by people acting like 8 republicans voted him out and Democrats didn't vote him out even though they all voted to...put him out lol. I have no idea if this is a good idea or bad idea but clearly its the democrats AND the 8 Republicans, not just one lol

I don't understand how anyone can blame Democrats for this when Mccarthy did everything possible to show he wasn't trust worthy, yeah he worked with them to keep the government open and look what happened, he immediately went out there to attack and blame them for keeping the government open as he knew doing that would piss off Republicans, dumbass was trying to play both sides and if he had survived this he definitely would have backed down to Republicans and forced a shutdown after the extended period goes up in November then blame the Democrats for it because he'd know then that he absolutely could be ousted for now burning the country down at the demands of Republicans.

It really speaks to the entitlement of Republicans in general when you look at that behavior, Mccarthy fully expected Democrats to save him with no concessions at all and to just let him trash them without pushback in the media on top of that because surely the next speaker will be worse and won't even talk to them, right? In fact, as of this posting I think he's still out there attacking Democrats and blaming them for this. Insane. Everybody's fault but his party and himself.

I was so confused by this thread and why we were defending Mitch McConnell and then realized it said McCarthy not McConnell <_< Shows how much I know about Congress.

Anyway Im confused by people acting like 8 republicans voted him out and Democrats didn't vote him out even though they all voted to...put him out lol. I have no idea if this is a good idea or bad idea but clearly its the democrats AND the 8 Republicans, not just one lol

Throw off all republicans from committees and refuse to seat any of the sedition caucus no matter what. Can't vote if they aren't seated.

also if they manage to get the house. evict one of the GOP from an office with tradition instead of kicking out immediately like mr bow tie did.

I don't understand how anyone can blame Democrats for this when Mccarthy did everything possible to show he wasn't trust worthy, yeah he worked with them to keep the government open and look what happened, he immediately went out there to attack and blame them for keeping the government open as he knew doing that would piss off Republicans, dumbass was trying to play both sides and if he had survived this he definitely would have backed down to Republicans and forced a shutdown after the extended period goes up in November then blame the Democrats for it because he'd know then that he absolutely could be ousted for now burning the country down at the demands of Republicans.

It really speaks to the entitlement of Republicans in general when you look at that behavior, Mccarthy fully expected Democrats to save him with no concessions at all and to just let him trash them without pushback in the media on top of that because surely the next speaker will be worse and won't even talk to them, right? In fact, as of this posting I think he's still out there attacking Democrats and blaming them for this. Insane. Everybody's fault but his party and himself.

also if they manage to get the house. evict one of the GOP from an office with tradition instead of kicking out immediately like mr bow tie did.

McCarthy needed either Gaetz and his allies to back off or for a Democrat to vote against the motion for him to keep the Speakership. NBC News journalist Ali Vitali reported that McCarthys allies were calling moderate Democrats essentially begging for them to step in and save McCarthys speakership. Those pleas were denied. Democrats saw no incentive to save McCarthy.

For months, McCarthy has appeased the worst impulses of House Republicans. He unilaterally opened a baseless impeachment inquiry into President Biden after promising it would need to be authorized by a full House vote. He back-tracked on his spending deal with President Biden and risked a government shutdown.

Just this past weekend, McCarthy tried to blame Democrats for bringing the government to the brink of a shutdown in spite of the fact more Democrats voted for the continuing resolution than Republicans. Saying this about a party that you need to help save you days later wasnt a smart strategy.

Democrats also havent forgiven McCarthy for how he handled January 6, as Congressional Progressive Caucus Chair Rep Pramila Jayapal (D-WA) told reporters ahead of the vote. In the immediate aftermath of the January 6 insurrection, McCarthy blamed Trump for the attack. But within weeks, he was back at Mar-a-Lago, cozying up to Donald Trump. This began Trumps rehabilitation after his disgraceful effort to overturn the 2020 election.

Amid this motion to vacate, House Republicans expressed their fury with Matt Gaetz to CNNs Manu Raju. Rep Derrick Van Orden (R-WI) said of Gaetz, "The only word I can describe for that is hes either a fool or a liar. Rep Erin Houchin (R-IN) said, "I think Matt Gaetz is a chaos agent." Their anger should be directed inward because Gaetz is a microcosm of the extremism their party has emboldened.

This challenge to McCarthys speakership is the culmination of the Republican Partys decades of appeasing extremists. Establishment Republicans have long enabled and empowered radicals, from Newt Gingrich to Donald Trump to Matt Gaetz, for political gain, thinking they could control them. Now, theyre the ones being controlled.

The far-right Tea Party movement was emboldened amid Barack Obamas ascension to the presidency. We saw the House Freedom Caucus arise as a result of that movement. In 2015, Mark Meadows, then a Republican representative from North Carolina and member of the House Freedom Caucus, threatened then-Speaker of the House John Boehner with a motion to vacate. Boehner resigned and instead handed the gavel to Paul Ryan.

Over the course of the 2016 election, the Republican Party increasingly embraced Donald Trump once he won the nomination. All that mattered to them was what their base wanted the same base that they helped radicalize over the years. Whats happened since then speaks for itself.

This coalition-building with radicals resulted in an increasingly powerful extremist wing of the Republican Party that has cultivated government dysfunction. This attention-hungry, chaos-seeking faction grew to rule the broader party as a whole.

Ahead of the vote, Hakeem Jeffries briefly spoke to the press, keeping the message about the bigger picture: We encourage our Republican colleagues, who claim to be more traditional, to break from the extremists, end the chaos, end the dysfunction, end the extremism Hes right. But unfortunately, this vote wont do anything to bring an end to GOP extremism.

What's good about this is that any Republican speaker that's even remotely moderate will have to realize that they either need the unwavering support of the MAGA cult (which is impossible) or they'll need to actually be willing to work with Democrats to protect their ass

I don't see anyone indicating that they will work with dems will recieve a single R vote.

With no deliverables and no hunter biden impeachment, they'll just run on the border and the debt.

What's good about this is that any Republican speaker that's even remotely moderate will have to realize that they either need the unwavering support of the MAGA cult (which is impossible) or they'll need to actually be willing to work with Democrats to protect their ass

Agreed but it should be escalated throw out 5.

You need a supermajority to expel.

You need a supermajority to expel.

Congrats to Strider for getting that mythical post #501

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The arrogance of Kevin McCarthy. After shitting on Democrats for years, he genuinely thought they would bail him out and he didnt have to offer anything in return for no reason other than he could be replaced by someone worse than him.

That is the textbook attitude of a domestic abuser.

The arrogance of Kevin McCarthy. After shitting on Democrats for years, he genuinely thought they would bail him out and he didnt have to offer anything in return for no reason other than he could be replaced by someone worse than him.

That is the textbook attitude of a domestic abuser.

Then has a press conference going "It's the Dems fault!!!"

If he, or other Republicans has approached the democrats with a good deal, it would be reasonable for them to cooperate. But it wasnt their responsibility to try to create a deal.

If he, or other Republicans has approached the democrats with a good deal, it would be reasonable for them to cooperate. But it wasnt their responsibility to try to create a deal.

No there's no point. Deals have no enforcement and you basically just have to trust the other party to do something.

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1709553984690680026

The acting Speaker right now seems like a parody of a MAGA republican.

No there's no point. Deals have no enforcement and you basically just have to trust the other party to do something.

Which is funny because before the vote Republicans were making speeches about how the Dems should compromise because "we're always looking for compromise from our colleagues across the aisle."

Which is complete bullshit as we already know.

https://www.twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1709561555677847625

He also did it to Steny Hoyer too.

The Democrats' plot to destroy Republicans, also known as Operation Just Let Them Speak, is working perfectly.....

https://www.twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1709561555677847625

He also did it to Steny Hoyer too.

If he, or other Republicans has approached the democrats with a good deal, it would be reasonable for them to cooperate. But it wasnt their responsibility to try to create a deal.

Yea but then he probably loses other Republicans.

He was completely fucked and it was entirely his own doing.

It's not his doing, it's the treason caucus that are responsible for not playing ball with the other Republicans.

He's the one that signed his own death warrant giving them the ability to do this in the first place. This was predictable.

Yep. There was no way to both keep them happy and have a somewhat functioning government.

MSNBC talked about how McCarthy or his PAC admitted they needed to pick up 10-20 seats in order to have a functioning government.

Well, they didn't get those seats, so they don't have a functioning government.