Board 8 > Blade Mafia 5 Chapter One: Para Feles

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But unrelated to BCT I'm fine with continuing to pressure Abacus to force participation. I see Sultan is alive now at least.

changmas posted...

lynching ulti to solve BCT's alignment may be one of the more ridiculous ideas i've heard

I dont think an educated attempt to nail two scum is all that ridiculous. Would it be more palatable if I use a good vibes/bad vibes format?

wallmasterz posted...

No one asked me but I think an Ulti lynch might yield the most I dont think its fair to say objective info, but it would arguably yield the most leads. His very quick stress test on BCT could definitely be a scum-scum preemptive strike before we do the same ol BCT omgus routine we always do every game. When you couple this being the first thing Ulti did with BCTs unprecedentedly calm response, yeah, it stands out to me. If BCT is town and has actually changed I think the positive growth deserves recognition, but Id like to hope BCT could forgive a little healthy skepticism.

Another thing Ulti did I find odd to follow. Gotta keep posts shorter because my phone keeps crashing

also how is this going to yield the "most leads" if youre claiming it yields leads on exactly 1 person (who is typically not difficult to solve)

I actually liked the good/bad vibe lists from yesterday but I think we could take it further.

First Group
Sultan
BCT
Dumey
Peaf

Second Group
Abacus
Ulti
Mzero
Wallz

Rather than just assigning "good/bad vibes" to the group as a whole, take each group and assign someone in the group one of the 4 options:
-Lynch
-Protect
-Scan
-Ignore (for now)

So my own answers would be

Scan: Sultan
Lynch: BCT
Protect: Dumey
Ignore: Peaf

Lynch: Abacus
Ignore: Ulti
Scan: Mzero
Protect: Wallz

At least that's how I feel at a glance. Would anyone else care to play?

when I posted that about leads I thought it also had implications for sbells alignment because ulti commented on how I never actually tunnel scum right at the peak of my sbell suspicion. I thought it might be a subtle means of undermining my argument against sbell. Oh look wallz is tunneling again, too bad he never actually tunnels scum! Then I went back and Ultis post in question happened just a few minutes after my post about tunneling, so I might have been reading too much into that. It was within a few minutes of when ulti complained about poor reception at work.

of course you know i'm down to play

Lynch: Dumey (ok not really but out of the options presented)
Ignore: BCT
Scan: Peaf
Protect: Sultan

Lynch: Wallz
Ignore: Abacus
Scan: Mzero
Protect: Ulti

not everything fits cleanly into the buckets but hey those are the rules of the game

and might as well go ahead and

##Unvote
##Vote: Wallz

Protect Sultan feels bold from that group, based upon his lackluster participation, also Protecting Ulti. Not gonna lie, but I hope you aren't the doctor, lol

i legit think sultan is cooking! he's in the mafia championship finals! we should give him some leeway to play his game

ulti not so much protect as like, ignore but feel better about that abacus

changmas posted...

of course you know i'm down to play

Lynch: Dumey (ok not really but out of the options presented)
Ignore: BCT
Scan: Peaf
Protect: Sultan

Lynch: Wallz
Ignore: Abacus
Scan: Mzero
Protect: Ulti

not everything fits cleanly into the buckets but hey those are the rules of the game

and might as well go ahead and

##Unvote
##Vote: Wallz

I like this list, I am going to say mine would be the same.

Other than BCt has anyone claimed?

about than*

oh yeah btw i have a date tonight and will be missing the deadline so if we could wrap this up around 5 or 6 EST that would be good

changmas posted...

oh yeah btw i have a date tonight and will be missing the deadline so if we could wrap this up around 5 or 6 EST that would be good

Okay lynch chang lol jk but have fun on your date

First Group
Sultan - lynch because i can't read him anyway
BCT - ignore
Dumey - scan
Peaf - protect

Second Group
Abacus - ignore
Ulti - scan
Mzero - protect
Wallz - lynch

@ sbell - do you have anything to actually say about corrik's claim or are you just going to grumble about how one of his fake claims got you killed in a past game

That post definitely does feel like town ulti

Also @ sbell, please tell me what you think of Wallz.

@ whoever dies between now and d2 - can you please help our poor hosts with votals

PeaceFrog posted...

@ sbell - do you have anything to actually say about corrik's claim or are you just going to grumble about how one of his fake claims got you killed in a past game

it's funny that I just happened to pull away from the desk for a sec to look at this and boom a question right for me.

I think I said I was sorts ok with it before when I saw it this morning? Scum doesn't really need to say that at that moment other than to draw an arrow and point it at themselves. So let a corrik be.

i definitely don't believe corrik's claim but it also has pretty close to zero bearing on what we should do now

PeaceFrog posted...

Also @ sbell, please tell me what you think of Wallz.

More questions?!?!?!

I dunno about wallz, I know I interacted with him the most, well and you. But It was like real stupid shit.

I really don't have any strong feelings at the moment

UltimaterializerX posted...

It isnt unprecedented if youve been talking with the guy privately for like 4 months. Easiest read for me and I got it out of the way for a reason. But sure lets pretend I wasnt trying to get reads and actually play the game the way youre supposed to. We should reward bad inactive play instead. If you want me to never play mafia again because Im frankly completely over this shit happening every game regardless of what my role is, then by all means push another idiotic town mislynch attempt my way while multiple people arent posting. On day one. Again.

You know the only time people dont try to lynch me first every game? When I go inactive intentionally and dont post. Wow, imagine that. And I still try playing anyway because at some point I would hope people figure out how bad that style is for the community at large. Were 8 hours from deadline and topic 1 isnt even full yet. Thats embarrassing, and the direct cause is Board 8s own meta rewarding bad play game after game after game. This is why Plum quit and Chris went elsewhere. You people never learn anything.

So yet again, Im dipping out of day one because its what this board has decided is correct. I am not claiming, either, because at some point stupid mislynches and worse play need to be punished. I am willing to accept town losing 100% of games if it means people start actually learning lessons, but I know you guys wont. If you want an all time hilarious mislynch, knock yourselves out. Im completely over it for life at this point because no one. ever. learns.

Uh what

I quit because mafia makes me a worse person and I actively dislike who I become when playing it. It has nothing to do with other people

Scan: Peaf
Lynch: Sultan
Protect: Dumey
Ignore: BCT

Lynch: Abacus
Ignore: Mzero
Scan: Ulti
Protect: Wallz

Though I forget why Peaf is even in that 1st list
And also I dont want this to be used as an indicator of we should lynch of course

Helping with votals over lunch break:
10 to lynch, day ends at 8 pm est
[7] Abacus - Ulti, (Wallz), Corrik*, IGCD, Sultan, Lea, red, (chang), Wallz
[2] Sultan - (IGCDl, Death, Dumey, (Lea)
[1] Plum - MZero, (Sultan)
[1] No Lynch - Plum
[1] Sbell - (BCT), Peaf, (Wallz)
[1] Dumey - Abacus, (Sultan), (IGCD)
[1] Wallz - Chang
[0] BCT - (Ulti), (Lea), (Corrik)
[0] Ulti - (Peaf), (Sultan), (IGCD)
[0] FD - (red), (BCT)
[0] Peaf - (Dumey)
[0] Death - (Sultan)

Let me know if there are any errors.
* is no unvote, host did not say if they are required or not but I'm assuming not

multiple wallz protects.

por que?

Note that before Chang moved to Wallz, wallz' vote brought Abacus to -2

Oh we have 7 on abacus?

thats stupid as hell

I'm going back to sleep but unless i voted in mysleep I'm not on Abacus.

Obellisk posted...

multiple wallz protects.

por que?

Just from fd and death, right?

Obellisk posted...

More questions?!?!?!

I dunno about wallz, I know I interacted with him the most, well and you. But It was like real stupid shit.

I really don't have any strong feelings at the moment

Ok fair. He and i were the only serious votes on you and he agreed with me that your vibes were off.

If you had to kill one of us, which would it be?

You're right, we should get him to -1 so he actually has to come back.

##Vote: Abacus

Ah yes those votals are in fact a lie. Red's most recent vote is on Sultan

UltimaterializerX posted...

The doctor should definitely not waste time protecting me. Far better players and roles out there Im sure.

Id say the same about scans but I think Ive been checked night 1 every game for like 4 years now, so nothing I say on that one matters. But the doctor definitely shouldnt bother. If scum is dumb enough to shoot me night 1 thats just a win for town.

just a hypothetical exercise, i don't think anyone's really advocating for doc on you

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Ah yes those votals are in fact a lie. Red's most recent vote is on Sultan

Thanks. Updated it.

Ok so Wallz took abacus to -3, Chang unvoted and fd went on him, so abacus is again at -3.

I was hoping to take him to -2 so I could see who would take him to -1.

Alas.

I'm sorry for failing you like this, fd. That's what you get for ignoring me until now

You should have ignored me for longer

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Bct tends to go quickly into the defeatist mode as town as scum he usually pushed back a bit more.

To me, especially on what page 1, it seems like the easiest thing in the world to fake. I thought it as a null.

FD will remember this.

Can I ask anyone on abacus why him being gone makes him scum

it doesnt make sense as town or scum here

Is this a game that requires unvotes?
Its the difference between Abacus being at 6 or 7 votes by now since Corrik never unvoted BCT

New topic and a bit of a host note coming

ctesjbuvf posted...

To me, especially on what page 1, it seems like the easiest thing in the world to fake. I thought it as a null.

I thought it was odd how quickly people were clearing him based on page 1. That's why page 2 happened.

PeaceFrog posted...

Just from fd and death, right?

Ok fair. He and i were the only serious votes on you and he agreed with me that your vibes were off.

If you had to kill one of us, which would it be?

probably wallz over you

Great. Join me on him then.

##Unvote
##Vote: Wallz

Oh damn it Peaf

masterplum posted...

Can I ask anyone on abacus why him being gone makes him scum

it doesnt make sense as town or scum here

Literally just trying to force them to participate. You can't read someone who isn't here.

I'm not saying they are scum. There hasn't' been anything on which to properly make that judgement.

Also dont take it personally Peaf
I am only protecting Wallz because I find you usually way harder to read and more tempting to scan if I can

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Other than BCt has anyone claimed?

I mean he corrected vanilla to town so he really didn't. Then Corrik said miller later which you can make of what you want I guess.