Board 8 > Blade Mafia Topic 2: Unsatisfying popping noises

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htaeD
10/06/23 5:46:26 PM
#201:


IfGodCouldDie posted...

I'll move my vote to insure no ties if need be.


Is that you saying you want to keep your vote on the jailmaster claim?

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ctesjbuvf
10/06/23 5:46:55 PM
#202:


Does scum Abacus fake claim Jailkeeper, gets the name wrong in a position where he has to claim, and then disappears without clearing that up?

Probably not is my best guess.

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EDumey
10/06/23 5:48:00 PM
#203:


PeaceFrog posted...
At risk of not being spicy enough, I recognize that my d1 reads are generally shit except for when I'm under pressure myself so I'd be thrilled to be wrong about you, Dumey.

Nah It's okay. I'm not actually salty at you in particular. Just expressing frustration that I like to play the game by going over reads and how people interact. And going off of "vibes" kind of cuts both reads and interactions off at the ankles. So how do I evaluate you if you're just kind of giving a nebulous vibe that you don't like me? For the record I think you did actually engage in conversation with SBell(?) and Wallz(?) earlier, so you're fine in my book for now.

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PeaceFrog
10/06/23 5:48:00 PM
#204:


Maybe i subconsciously want people to come after me so i can get better reads, but you people are so quick to town clear me even after i was on a team that swept the game and won in 3 days.

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IfGodCouldDie
10/06/23 5:50:06 PM
#205:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
What part of that was a partial claim?

He's not "getting away" with anything. He wasn't here, he got pressured, he cited a real life excuse and provided a claim that's worth keeping around. If he doesn't bring some activity day 2 and doesn't get replaced then he'll be just as much on the chopping block.
He didn't explain his role.

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PeaceFrog
10/06/23 5:50:38 PM
#206:


(That was 100% me getting carried by my experienced team but hey let's keep that as an asterisk)

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IfGodCouldDie
10/06/23 5:51:01 PM
#207:


masterplum posted...
You know what

I'M GOING TO VOTE

##Unvote
##Vote:FD

Feels like someone trying to justify why they were unvoting when the justification was entirely unnecessary.
##Unvote
##Vote: FD

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Corrik7
10/06/23 5:51:39 PM
#208:


PeaceFrog posted...
This is your time to shine, Corrik!

Though i would argue if you don't like faux justification, Wallz and dumey should also be on your radar.
I approve of Edumey, Wallz, or FD. I would accept Chang without the same stamp of approval.

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htaeD
10/06/23 5:52:05 PM
#209:


I can see who the most popular neighbor is

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PeaceFrog
10/06/23 5:52:25 PM
#210:


Do neighbors generally get kicked out of the chat upon death?

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IfGodCouldDie
10/06/23 5:53:32 PM
#211:


htaeD posted...
Is that you saying you want to keep your vote on the jailmaster claim?
That was me responding before I read about the claim.

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Forceful_Dragon
10/06/23 5:53:40 PM
#212:


We asked and didn't get a response, your guess is as good as mine

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changmas
10/06/23 5:53:46 PM
#213:


PeaceFrog posted...
Do neighbors generally get kicked out of the chat upon death?

i asked but it hasnt been answered yet

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EDumey
10/06/23 5:53:54 PM
#214:


I'd almost suspect Plum and IGCD of being scum together, but I don't think there's any scum Plum I've ever seen that actually tries to lead a lynch this late in the day.

I'm never going to vote FD if the reasoning for it is just that he provided reasoning for unvoting, instead of unvoting with no explanation whatsoever.

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htaeD
10/06/23 5:53:56 PM
#215:


Fair enough
Wasnt sure if you didnt believe the claim or not

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PeaceFrog
10/06/23 5:54:15 PM
#216:


Corrik7 posted...
I approve of Edumey, Wallz, or FD. I would accept Chang without the same stamp of approval.
Do you think there is anything to my t1pg3 claim that fd and red are unlikely to be scum together?

Alternatively, if fd is scum, does that impact your assessment of red at all?

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IfGodCouldDie
10/06/23 5:56:02 PM
#217:


EDumey posted...
I'd almost suspect Plum and IGCD of being scum together, but I don't think there's any scum Plum I've ever seen that actually tries to lead a lynch this late in the day.

I'm never going to vote FD if the reasoning for it is just that he provided reasoning for unvoting, instead of unvoting with no explanation whatsoever.
Plum would probably quit the game if we ended up as scum together because I'm pretty sure he hates me.

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IfGodCouldDie
10/06/23 5:56:31 PM
#218:


htaeD posted...
Fair enough
Wasnt sure if you didnt believe the claim or not
It's not that I believe the claim but I'm willing to let it ride for now.

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htaeD
10/06/23 5:58:11 PM
#219:


Honestly at this rate even BCT is looking like an attractive lynch again

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changmas
10/06/23 5:58:40 PM
#220:


why not wallz, death?

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htaeD
10/06/23 6:01:15 PM
#221:


Its not that wallz is that much better, but I am at the point where none of the current suspects feel overtly scummy to me.
I do know I dont want to lynch FD, Dumey, Sultan or Abacus
So that does mean it will have to be Wallz at the actual rate.

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changmas
10/06/23 6:01:40 PM
#222:


works for me

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EDumey
10/06/23 6:02:44 PM
#223:


Corrik, is the reason Ctes is town on your list in any way related to your dislike of me? I was trying to look at Ctes and he's one of the few people you put in your town list, and really the only interactions he had at that point was arguing with Wallz about going after inactives, and me putting him on my list of people with low impressions.

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EDumey
10/06/23 6:11:03 PM
#224:


htaeD posted...
A hilarious mental image for sure: a scumteam of depressed inactives

But I doubt it as well.
His nonpresence does strike me as not an act

Whats the case against Wallz again?
And I still dont know why Peafs name was in those 8 lists either.

Stealth complaint?

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htaeD
10/06/23 6:13:07 PM
#225:


Lol
But even if I was scum on a team like that, I am too nice to say a thing like that
..
In public

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htaeD
10/06/23 6:16:19 PM
#226:


But either way

I am near the end of my time

And I see no alternatives
##Vote: Wallz

10 to lynch, day ends at 8 pm est
[3] Wallz - Chang, Peaf, Death
[2] Abacus - Ulti, (Wallz), (Corrik), (IGCD), Sultan, (Lea), (chang), (Wallz), (FD)
[2] Dumey - Abacus, (Sultan), (IGCD), Corrik
[2] FD - (red), (BCT), Plum, IGCD
[1] BCT - (Ulti), (Lea), (Corrik), Lea
[1] Sultan - (IGCD), (Death), (Dumey), (Lea), red, (Corrik)
[1] Plum - MZero, (Sultan)
[0] No Lynch - (Plum)
[0] Sbell - (BCT), (Peaf), (Wallz)
[0] Ulti - (Peaf), (Sultan), (IGCD), (Corrik)
[0] Peaf - (Dumey)
[0] Death - (Sultan)

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BlueCrystalTear
10/06/23 6:16:40 PM
#227:


Let's do it.

##vote: FD

P. S. Get better soon, Blade!

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htaeD
10/06/23 6:17:38 PM
#228:


Oh now that almost made me want to jump ship

BCT hey how are you
You only claimed to be town and not nilla, right?
why FD?

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Forceful_Dragon
10/06/23 6:18:29 PM
#229:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
Let's do it.

##vote: FD

P. S. Get better soon, Blade!

You still mad that I put pressure on you?

What happened to the new and improved BCT?

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PeaceFrog
10/06/23 6:22:00 PM
#230:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
Let's do it.

##vote: FD

P. S. Get better soon, Blade!
What do you make of the abacus train and claim?

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BlueCrystalTear
10/06/23 6:23:24 PM
#231:


I claimed vanilla on page 1 of topic 1.

I'm not mad, FD. You're just scum for criticizing everything I did and trying to set me up. And your rude accusation just now - that I can't suspect people who suspect me - just affirmed it. Other people point at holes in others' behavior but I'm the only one taking this shit for it. I don't like it. It didn't seem towny then and doesn't here, either.

Also I'm busy. That's all.

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BlueCrystalTear
10/06/23 6:24:24 PM
#232:


PeaceFrog posted...
What do you make of the abacus train and claim?
I'm not caught up.

Jailer, huh? No counterclaim?

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EDumey
10/06/23 6:25:46 PM
#233:


Okay, some people may not like this style of argument, but I was reading through Topic two again and noticed that Corrik was the one who brought up Sultan's role having the 24 hour condition on it, when no one else questioned or interpreted it that way before.

Sultan's last post in Topic 1 was #414, at 12:21:19 EST.
Corrik asks Sultan a clarifying question Topic 2 #26, at 2:23:55 EST.
Sultan immediately responds Topic 2 #27, at 2:25:41 EST.

The obvious narrative I'm painting here is that maybe Corrik and Sultan discussed Sultan's fake claim on the scum board, and Sultan for some silly reason replied immediately in topic when he hadn't been active at all for the last couple hours. Could just be coincidence that he happened to be in topic when it happened.

The other alternative line of questioning, is it odd that Corrik saw that where no one else did? I can imagine a scumCorrik/townSultan world where Corrik maybe has some additional knowledge of scum powers that made him think Sultan hadn't told the entire truth of his action.

Both of these lines of thoughts lead me to lean scum on Corrik. To be clear this is not just OMGUS because he's going after me. I noted before that Corrik being active D1 was different from the last two games I remember from him. If he scans guilty (as Miller or Scum) then he has incentive to post actively in case a scan happens. He waited 'til halfway through the day to claim Miller, waiting until after everyone else had had ample time to check in and no one else claimed. The neighbor trio validates Corrik somewhat, but the suspicion between the trio means they will never be hard confirmed as town. This all paints a scenario where a scum Corrik could actually make a deep run, having scan "protection" and not being night killed as town because there's a reasonable suspicion on his name because of the neighbor stuff.

That plus the putting Ctes on his town list with little reason pop up to me as tentatively Corrik/Ctes as scum? Possibly Sultan/Death in there with Death annoyed at inactive Ctes and Sultan, but Corrik actually putting in a little effort for him so Death isn't playing solo? This is full tinhat theory mode and I acknowledge that, just kind of spit-balling where my re-read took me.

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changmas
10/06/23 6:26:19 PM
#234:


no one would ever counterclaim d1 jailer

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EDumey
10/06/23 6:27:43 PM
#235:


Oh I meant to ask, for Corrik's neighbor buddies, did he claim Miller right away/early on in your convo? Or not until half-way through the day? That would help me evaluate.

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BlueCrystalTear
10/06/23 6:27:59 PM
#236:


changmas posted...
no one would ever counterclaim d1 jailer
I might if it means we get scum.

But I'm not jailer.

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changmas
10/06/23 6:28:51 PM
#237:


he never claimed miller in our chat at all

but for what it's worth, he still suspects both of us to the point where he would never tell us anything that the rest of the game wouldn't hear first

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Forceful_Dragon
10/06/23 6:28:54 PM
#238:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
I claimed vanilla on page 1 of topic 1.

I'm not mad, FD. You're just scum for criticizing everything I did and trying to set me up. And your rude accusation just now - that I can't suspect people who suspect me - just affirmed it. Other people point at holes in others' behavior but I'm the only one taking this shit for it. I don't like it. It didn't seem towny then and doesn't here, either.

Also I'm busy. That's all.

You are allowed to suspect people who suspect you, but you have to actually provide a reason why. You can't say it's because of "red's read" when red hadnt even provided a read.

And you can't come back at 90 minutes to lynch and push me tied with wallz without some kind of reasoning.

I applied pressure to you because you are susceptible to being pressured. It was low hanging fruit sure, but you were around and it was something to do when it was getting late and no one else was should. Something to see if you'd bend or break. It isn't my fault that you haven't given me any legitimate reason to ease up. You're just hitting back with OMGUS

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ctesjbuvf
10/06/23 6:30:07 PM
#239:


I guess I was wrong about what BCT meant on page 1.

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Forceful_Dragon
10/06/23 6:30:30 PM
#240:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
I'm not caught up.

Jailer, huh? No counterclaim?

Lol. Other people were voting me because I unvoted Abacus after the jailer claim. Then you show up and follow their votes to me but you don't even know why they voted??

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Forceful_Dragon
10/06/23 6:33:12 PM
#241:


Btw this is unrelated, but at a glance I keep reading the topic title as "Unsatisfying pooping noises" and I'm not happy about it

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EDumey
10/06/23 6:33:53 PM
#242:


changmas posted...
he never claimed miller in our chat at all

but for what it's worth, he still suspects both of us to the point where he would never tell us anything that the rest of the game wouldn't hear first

I suppose maybe I'm silly for taking Corrik's miller claim at face value. But assuming that he is some kind of neighbor and he can't get away from that, does the fact that he didn't mention it to his neighbors, and claimed Miller super late in the day not rub anyone else the wrong way? If it's a scum/town/town neighbor trio and Corrik is the scum, then a scan is obviously the way he gets caught out there?

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wallmasterz
10/06/23 6:34:51 PM
#243:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Btw this is unrelated, but at a glance I keep reading the topic title as "Unsatisfying pooping noises" and I'm not happy about it

Theres no such thing, only mildly satisfying, satisfying or highly satisfying pooping noises

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IfGodCouldDie
10/06/23 6:36:20 PM
#244:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
You still mad that I put pressure on you?

What happened to the new and improved BCT?
This feels like a low blow. Not a good look.

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changmas
10/06/23 6:36:27 PM
#245:


EDumey posted...
I suppose maybe I'm silly for taking Corrik's miller claim at face value. But assuming that he is some kind of neighbor and he can't get away from that, does the fact that he didn't mention it to his neighbors, and claimed Miller super late in the day not rub anyone else the wrong way? If it's a scum/town/town neighbor trio and Corrik is the scum, then a scan is obviously the way he gets caught out there?

if corrik scans as scum we should just kill him, miller be damned


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EDumey
10/06/23 6:37:14 PM
#246:


changmas posted...
if corrik scans as scum we should just kill him, miller be damned

If that's your opinion, then you already know he scans as scum, because he claimed to do so.

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red13n
10/06/23 6:38:06 PM
#247:


I'm reluctantly awake sort of but feel very exhausted is this a real sort of triple neighbor claim?

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ctesjbuvf
10/06/23 6:38:09 PM
#248:


EDumey posted...
Corrik, is the reason Ctes is town on your list in any way related to your dislike of me? I was trying to look at Ctes and he's one of the few people you put in your town list, and really the only interactions he had at that point was arguing with Wallz about going after inactives, and me putting him on my list of people with low impressions.

So based on this post and the long one; you think Corrik and I are scum together and he put me on his town list because he is trying to get a lynch going on you? I don't quite follow that train of thought.

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changmas
10/06/23 6:38:23 PM
#249:


that's supposing you believe him

i wouldn't be surprised if he's a regular ole Town Neighbor

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EDumey
10/06/23 6:38:56 PM
#250:


red13n posted...
I'm reluctantly awake sort of but feel very exhausted is this a real sort of triple neighbor claim?

Corrik, Chang, and FD have all confirmed that they've had conversations together. None of them trust each other.

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