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BlueTigerLion
10/08/23 8:09:27 AM
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24326862/german-tattoo-artist-killed-israel-palestine-hamas-truck-body/

Harrowing footage of Hamas militants parading the body of a German woman through the streets of Israel has sparked outrage, as a British-born Israeli soldier has also been killed in the chaos. Tattoo artist Shani Louk, 30, was seized from a peace music festival near the Gaza border by armed militants during the Saturday morning attack which sparked a declaration of war from Israel. And British national Nathanel Young was killed during the Hamas attacks in Israel, which intensified today. The London-born soldier was living in Tel Aviv and serving as a member of the Israeli Army's 13th Batallion. His family mourned: "He loved his family and friends and was loved by everyone. He loved music and was a talented DJ. Always willing to go to any lengths for his loved ones."

Meanwhile, horrifying footage has emerged of Hamas militants jeering and spitting on Shani's dead body. The tattoo artist could be seen lying in the back of a truck, with her leg at an unnatural angle, and her identifiable dreadlocks hanging out the back of the vehicle. Shani's cousin Tomasina Weintraub-Louk told The Mail that the family knew it was "definitely Shani" due to her identifiable leg tattoos and hair. Tomasina said of her cousin: "We have heard nothing. We are hoping for positive news. She was at a music festival for peace. This is a nightmare for our family." Her mother Ricarda has begged for help in finding out what became of her daughter after the video was released. Another woman was filmed pleading for her life with her kidnappers after also being kidnapped from a festival in the south of the country. Disturbing footage shows Noa Argamani with her arms outstretched as she pleads with the armed militants to let her go. The 25-year-old university student screamed "Don't kill me! No, no, no", as the gunmen sped away with her trapped in between them. Later photos appeared to show Noa alive in Hamas custody within the city limits of Gaza.

It was originally thought that woman paraded was Israeli. Reaction changed when it was realized a German citizen got killed on social media.

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LeCh0nk
10/08/23 8:12:11 AM
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Why the fuck to people do this kind of shit.

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EbonTitanium
10/08/23 8:17:37 AM
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LeCh0nk posted...
Why the fuck to people do this kind of shit.
Tribalism.

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Tora_Sami
10/08/23 8:24:19 AM
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Do you want UN involvement? Cause this is how you get UN involvement.

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St0rmFury
10/08/23 8:26:17 AM
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Has Germany commented yet?

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Foppe
10/08/23 8:42:16 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
Has Germany commented yet?
A German foreign ministry source told CNN: The Federal Foreign Office and the German embassy in Tel Aviv are in close contact with the Israeli authorities in order to clarify whether and to what extent German citizens are affected.

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Tanthalas
10/08/23 8:44:19 AM
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Tora_Sami posted...
Do you want UN involvement? Cause this is how you get UN involvement.
With how fractured the permanent members are, the UN isnt going to be doing anything soon.

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Fenriswolf
10/08/23 8:45:48 AM
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Tora_Sami posted...
Do you want UN involvement? Cause this is how you get UN involvement.

Unfortunately, Germany isn't in the UNSC

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Tora_Sami
10/08/23 8:51:14 AM
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Tanthalas posted...
With how fractured the permanent members are, the UN isnt going to be doing anything soon.

Fenriswolf posted...
Unfortunately, Germany isn't in the UNSC

True, not saying this one incident will do that. But if they continue to harm civilians of other nations, it will provoke an intervention.

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Dark_Arbron
10/08/23 8:52:37 AM
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Maybe it's time for Russia to be removed from the (permanent) security council?

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The_shibe
10/08/23 8:52:57 AM
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Tora_Sami posted...
Do you want UN involvement? Cause this is how you get UN involvement.

I am starting to think this particular flare up (for a lack of a better term) of violence has more to it than meets the eye. Its maybe not an isolated event between two countries, just like China and North Korea and Iran are actually supporting Russia in the Ukraine conflict, maybe theyre supporting this too. Its probably more of an anti-west thing than just a thing vs the specific country they have attacked.

they probably want other western countries to get involved so the shit can hit the fan. This would also provide a welcome (for Russia) distraction from the Ukraine front.

last, but not least, watch the anti war republicans that have been crying about the Ukraine air and saying that we must mind mind our own business and that we cant afford this suddenly demand that the US gives billions of dollars to this counterattack, and maybe even put thousands of boots on the ground too, or else Biden is a secret mooselimb who has betrayed Israel or something stupid like that, which is also convenient for Russia.

yeah I am starting to think this is not isolated

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Fenriswolf
10/08/23 8:58:58 AM
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The_shibe posted...
I am starting to think this particular flare up (for a lack of a better term) of violence has more to it than meets the eye. Its maybe not an isolated event between two countries, just like China and North Korea and Iran are actually supporting Russia in the Ukraine conflict, maybe theyre supporting this too. Its probably more of an anti-west thing than just a thing vs the specific country they have attacked.

they probably want other western countries to get involved so the shit can hit the fan. This would also provide a welcome (for Russia) distraction from the Ukraine front.

last, but not least, watch the anti war republicans that have been crying about the Ukraine air and saying that we must mind mind our own business and that we cant afford this suddenly demand that the US gives billions of dollars to this counterattack, and maybe even put thousands of boots on the ground too, or else Biden is a secret mooselimb who has betrayed Israel or something stupid like that, which is also convenient for Russia.

yeah I am starting to think this is not isolated

Iran is definitely interested in directly supporting Hamas and Hezbollah, but in contrast both Russia and China have friendly relations with Israel. This is especially true for Russia since a large percentage of Israelis are Russian immigrants who support Putin, and Israel in fact refused to supply many of their weapons to Ukraine.

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BlueTigerLion
10/08/23 1:32:49 PM
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Tanthalas posted...
With how fractured the permanent members are, the UN isnt going to be doing anything soon.

Damn that is a shame.

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BurmesePenguin
10/08/23 1:36:51 PM
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Is she confirmed dead? A lot of articles I've seen has described her as being possibly kidnapped.

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Returning_CEmen
10/08/23 1:37:38 PM
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LeCh0nk posted...
Why the fuck to people do this kind of shit.
Most likely Israeli state actors trying to garner the Wests support for their genocide.

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Crimsoness
10/08/23 1:39:05 PM
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Returning_CEmen posted...
Most likely Israeli state actors trying to garner the Wests support for their genocide.


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KaZooo
10/08/23 1:41:27 PM
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That's fucked

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faizan_faizan
10/08/23 1:41:37 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
It is certainly not outside the realm of possibility. Although I think it's more likely that Hamas made an oopsie.

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Mew
10/08/23 1:42:32 PM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
Is she confirmed dead? A lot of articles I've seen has described her as being possibly kidnapped.
She's half naked in the back of a pickup truck with a bullet hole in her head while people are spitting on her lifeless body...

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BurmesePenguin
10/08/23 1:43:41 PM
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Oh okay, I haven't seen pictures.

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Noumas
10/08/23 1:52:27 PM
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No they fucking didn't :O such a beautiful woman how could they kill her like that
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Psuedo_Audacity
10/08/23 1:53:58 PM
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While this post is technically worse:

Returning_CEmen posted...
Most likely Israeli state actors trying to garner the Wests support for their genocide.

This post made me want to nuke this forum into oblivion:

Noumas posted...
No they fucking didn't :O such a beautiful woman how could they kill her like that


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Noumas
10/08/23 1:55:25 PM
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What's a peace music festival and what's it doing near the Gaza?

Would be like if they held a concert at the north korea border... I know I wouldn't feel safe in such a precarious location. Is this like, a thing?
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BurmesePenguin
10/08/23 1:56:24 PM
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Noumas posted...
What's a peace music festival and what's it doing near the Gaza?
I read somewhere it was only 3.5 km from the border.

Seems in poor taste, but also irrelevant currently.

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hockeybub89
10/08/23 1:57:51 PM
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Disgusting

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Mew
10/08/23 2:00:59 PM
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Noumas posted...
What's a peace music festival and what's it doing near the Gaza?

Would be like if they held a concert at the north korea border... I know I wouldn't feel safe in such a precarious location. Is this like, a thing?
A concert at the NK border would be safer at this point

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Villain_S_Fiend
10/08/23 2:03:21 PM
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This is how Putin gets Ukraine and WW3 with info obtained from Trump and passed through Iran to Hamas.

Returning_CEmen posted...
Most likely Israeli state actors trying to garner the Wests support for their genocide.
I support Palestine against Israel's apartheid and ethnic cleansing, but Hamas ain't no good guys, man.

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SayHeyyShohei
10/08/23 2:07:46 PM
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Tora_Sami posted...
Do you want UN involvement? Cause this is how you get UN involvement.

Unironically yes, this is what they want. UN involvement keeps Hamas in power.

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Arcanine2009
10/11/23 3:43:16 AM
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Apparently she may not be dead but has serious head injuries in a hospital in Gaza.

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kingdrake2
10/11/23 4:06:03 AM
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Arcanine2009 posted...
Apparently she may not be dead but has serious head injuries in a hospital in Gaza.


if she ends up alive after all of this, she's one of the lucky ones. reading upon what the gaza militants did to the baby's and children (very gruesome) wouldn't suggest reading about it.

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ShineboxPhil
10/11/23 4:11:11 AM
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Arcanine2009 posted...
Apparently she may not be dead but has serious head injuries in a hospital in Gaza.

I mean, I saw the video and it kinda looks like there's a glaring bullet hole in the back of her head...

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Karovorak
10/11/23 4:15:41 AM
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Arcanine2009 posted...
Apparently she may not be dead but has serious head injuries in a hospital in Gaza.

I can not imagine how the same people who parade and defile her body like that, would put her in a hospital after that.

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DnDer
10/11/23 5:09:04 AM
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kingdrake2 posted...
what the gaza militants did to the baby's and children

The good news is that no one can confirm the story babies, and that's likely not going to turn out true. Even the IDF statement refused to confirm it.

It was posted in one of the other topics about what's going on.

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Foppe
10/11/23 5:29:54 AM
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ShineboxPhil posted...
I mean, I saw the video and it kinda looks like there's a glaring bullet hole in the back of her head...
There are a few cases where people have survived a bullet to the head, some even managed to live a pretty normal life afterward.
Like https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11100430/ who was discovered two days after he got shot.
So if they dumped her afterward somewhere and if somebody found her and discovered that she was still alive and if they took her to a hospital (which most likely already was overfilled) and if the doctors had enough supplies, time, workforce and some luck, then it is not all impossible.
Very unlikely, but not impossible. That said, even with that much luck, she might end up as a vegetable as well.

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chaos_knight
10/11/23 5:44:18 AM
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Remember the global response that happened to Afghanistan after 9/11? That is about to happen here. No idea what Hamas is thinking at this point.

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luigi33
10/11/23 6:04:13 AM
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Humans never learn from their mistakes. There's essentially no fucking way we'll ever make it as a galactic species. Unless we step out of these same patterns.

Spoiler: We won't

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kingdrake2
10/11/23 10:51:04 AM
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luigi33 posted...
Humans never learn from their mistakes. There's essentially no fucking way we'll ever make it as a galactic species.


100% true statement. completely screwed in this lifetime and many more lifetimes after that if the human species manages to survive that long.

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Returning_CEmen
10/14/23 4:39:11 AM
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I got warned for my post and I see stuff supporting what I said coming out .

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Karovorak
10/14/23 4:47:10 AM
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Returning_CEmen posted...
I got warned for my post and I see stuff supporting what I said coming out .

Well, may you be so kind to repeat your take and show us the stuff that is supporting your claim?

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ALIEN_WORK2HOP
10/14/23 4:47:35 AM
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it was clear last week on the day of the massacre that she was german and it still isn't confirmed that she is dead. But yeah judging by the video it doesn't look good.

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Karovorak
10/14/23 4:49:13 AM
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ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...
it was clear last week on the day of the massacre that she was german and it still isn't confirmed that she is dead. But yeah judging by the video it doesn't look good.

That wasn't the claim that got him warned.

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Returning_CEmen
10/14/23 12:35:55 PM
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Karovorak posted...
Well, may you be so kind to repeat your take and show us the stuff that is supporting your claim?
One of the very first posts in this topic. Other people quoted it

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Bigpapaplut
10/14/23 12:40:36 PM
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LeCh0nk posted...
Why the fuck to people do this kind of shit.

Because humans are tribalistic animals

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Foppe
10/14/23 1:08:14 PM
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Hold on, hold on...
I want to know what part that the Israeli state actors trying to garner the Wests support for their genocide is and exactly what proof there is.
It cant be the Hamas attack, because they confirmed they did it.
It cant be that they waited for Hamas to attack just to have Israel soldiers pretending to be Hamas and attack the festival themself, there is no time for that.
The festival itself was fake, with actors from around the world? That is even more stupid...
Wait... dont tell me that just because she was "lucky" enough to survive is the proof?

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Returning_CEmen
10/14/23 2:26:37 PM
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Foppe posted...
Hold on, hold on...
I want to know what part that the Israeli state actors trying to garner the Wests support for their genocide is and exactly what proof there is.
It cant be the Hamas attack, because they confirmed they did it.
It cant be that they waited for Hamas to attack just to have Israel soldiers pretending to be Hamas and attack the festival themself, there is no time for that.
The festival itself was fake, with actors from around the world? That is even more stupid...
Wait... dont tell me that just because she was "lucky" enough to survive is the proof?
You think Israeli agents cant infiltrate Hamas? The CIA has done stuff like this

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Foppe
10/14/23 2:31:22 PM
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So where is the proof that Israeli agents infiltrated Hamas and convinced them to make a big cordinated attack 50 years after that big war?
Was Hamas too stupid to figure that out themself?

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