Current Events > House Speaker Topic III

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if there is no temporary chair, then the house cannot even vote for a speaker. therefore, the house is 100% nonfunctional, rather than 99%

Ok what would this accomplish besides further halting everything? Is it just a temper tantrum? I'm really asking.

If I had to guess: The Daily Wire

That was what I was wondering. Why? Whats the point this time?

That was what I was wondering. Why? Whats the point this time?

Under House rules, McCarthy was required to provide the House clerk in January a then-secret list of members that temporarily serve as Speaker of the House if the office became vacant. McHenry, a nine-term North Carolina Republican, was revealed to be the first name on McCarthy's list.

1. Don Bacon voted for McHenry
2. Vern Buchanan for Donalds
3. Ken Buck for Emmer
4. Lori Chavez-DeRemer for McHenry
5. Anthony DEsposito for Zeldin
6. Mario Diaz-Balart for Scalise
7. Jake Ellzey for Garcia
8. Ferguson for Scalise
9. Brian Fitzpatrick for McHenry (new vote against Jordan)
10. Andrew Garbarino for Zeldin
11. Carlos Gimenez for McCarthy
12. Tony Gonzales for Scalise
13. Kay Granger for Scalise
14. John James for Donalds
15. Thomas Kean for McCarthy (new vote against Jordan)
16. Mike Kelly of Pennsylvania for Scalise
17. Jennifer Kiggans for McHenry
18. Nick LaLota for Zeldin
19. Mike Lawler for McHenry
20. Mariannette Miller-Meeks for McHenry
21. Marcus Molinaro for Zeldin (new vote against Jordan)
22. John Rutherford for Scalise
23. Michael Simpson for Scalise
24. Pete Stauber for Westerman
25. Steve Womack for Scalise

https://twitter.com/Fritschner/status/1715395612852580690

1. It's some ultra MAGA guy that they want. Maybe even Jim Jordan.
2. McCarthy put Democrats on the list to appear bipartisan knowing that it would have been next to impossible for the scenario about to play out would happen, and some Republicans want to embarrass McCarthy.

Also... I suppose there are two possibilities in forcing the next name on McCarthy's list....

1. It's some ultra MAGA guy that they want. Maybe even Jim Jordan.
2. McCarthy put Democrats on the list to appear bipartisan knowing that it would have been next to impossible for the scenario about to play out would happen, and some Republicans want to embarrass McCarthy.

This is complete and total chaos. If McHenry gets removed, then what happens? Is there a backup for him?

There isn't.

And there is no rule for this.

So it would most likely be Kamala.

There isn't.

And there is no rule for this.

So it would most likely be Kamala.

this shit is really crazy. What may be even crazier, is that there are large portions of the right wing internet that actually believe the government being shutdown and unable to function is a GOOD THING.

How did we get to the point where people are actively hoping the representatives they voted into government, are actually going to not govern

There's a three-star general in the Republican caucus that wants a shot

Bergman

The other names on that list have me worried. Remember that McCarthy let MTG serve as speaker temporarily when he had surgery.

The people mentioning the possibility of Jeffries

Couldnt any Republican then do exactly what Gaetz Zeus to McCarthy, to Jeffries?

The people mentioning the possibility of Jeffries

Couldnt any Republican then do exactly what Gaetz Zeus to McCarthy, to Jeffries?

There isn't.

And there is no rule for this.

So it would most likely be Kamala.

I was asking about that earlier (if we would just move from getting stuck on a speaker vote loop to stuck on a vacate vote loop), and someone said they thought the rule allowing 1 person to call for vacate required the 1 person to be from the same party as the speaker. Haven't had a chance to verify that yet.

The threshold for bringing a motion to vacate stayed at just a single member of Congress until 2019 when Democrats took the majority. That year, the House modified the rules to allow a vacancy resolution to be brought only if offered by direction of a party caucus or conference" a much higher bar.
The new rules package, passed Monday night by the House, changes the procedure for a motion to vacate back to how it had existed before, giving any member the power to raise it.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/speaker-of-the-house-ousted-motion-to-vacate-rcna64902

So exactly. Anyone could then motion to have Jeffries vacate. So wed be back to a continuous circle of voting for a new Speaker.

If a sufficient number of Republicans voted for Jeffries, one could presume they would let their caucus know they were going to do that again, thus preventing the vote on the motion to vacate.

But yes. Technically one could shut the house down by repeatedly forcing the motion to vacate vote. And even if the Democrats were to suddenly win because enough Republicans didn't show up for a vote and lowering the threshold, they could force the vacate as soon as they were back *unless* the Democrats changes the rules before they got back.

A caller from Florida is saying "The Republican party is no longer the Republican party, it's the party of Trump and it's being tarnished by extremists."

So exactly. Anyone could then motion to have Jeffries vacate. So wed be back to a continuous circle of voting for a new Speaker.

I'm not a House procedures expert, but I believe that part of McCarthy's agreement with his caucus was to implement a much lower threshold for calling a vote to vacate in order to get in power. As long as Jeffries gets in without such a concession, individual reps wouldn't be able to do that.

I still don't buy that Jeffries would get enough GOP votes, though.

Them fully supporting Jordan just tells me this is something to do with T****.

Republicans saying McCarthy lost several rounds before winning, confident Jordan can do the same.

Clearly that worked out so well for McCarthy.