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toreysback
10/20/23 11:53:14 AM
#400:


25 this time

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ScazarMeltex
10/20/23 11:54:57 AM
#401:


Strider102 posted...
In addition, if/when something goes wrong that is their own doing they can blame the Dems and every Republican will believe it.

It shows Republicans don't care about the country or the people. They only want power.
It also shows how complicit even "the liberal media" is in their bullshit. Rather than call out the narrative for what is it is they'll treat it as gospel.

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UltimateWing
10/20/23 11:55:12 AM
#403:


Whats this? Jordan does not have the votes for the third time? Oh no!

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ArchonKnight
10/20/23 11:56:06 AM
#404:


Did two democrats not show up?

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littlebro07
10/20/23 11:56:14 AM
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FearlessMango
10/20/23 11:57:35 AM
#406:


Strider102 posted...
Day 1 20 Defectors

Day 2 22 Defectors

Day 3 25 Defectors
I posted in #39 in this topic that the Washington Post reported that there were 55 Republican opponents to Jordan who will continue to up the opposition votes against him with each round

So it does look like they're doing what they said they would

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Strider102
10/20/23 11:58:01 AM
#407:


Jordan may have made history getting the lowest votes for Speaker

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Zero_Destroyer
10/20/23 11:59:02 AM
#408:


ArchonKnight posted...
Did two democrats not show up?

2 Ds and 2 Rs were absent

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Starks
10/20/23 11:59:03 AM
#409:


The hatred and threats on TDW are hitting new heights.

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Starks
10/20/23 12:01:08 PM
#410:


Sounds like McCarthy is done with Jordan

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toreysback
10/20/23 12:02:05 PM
#411:


time for a 4th vote?

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YoBlazer
10/20/23 12:02:08 PM
#412:


The potential for voting strategies are at least interesting. It's already been reported that some Republicans intentionally "staggered" their Not Jordan votes so as to make him lose support over time and quash his momentum (he's had negative momentum thus far).

I wonder if Democrats have thought to employ similar strategies by simply not showing up. There are 433 House Reps at the moment, and 212 are Democrats. Jeffries has been getting a guaranteed 212 every time. They could try to goad the Republicans into not showing up to future votes by... not showing up themselves and giving the Republicans a sense of security. Unless I've missed some rule, if ten Republicans are absent for a vote while Jeffries gets his full 212, he becomes the speaker.

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aarrgus
10/20/23 12:06:52 PM
#413:


I *really* thought that McCarthy going all in on his glowing speech on Jordan would have actually cut down the number of votes against Jordan. Not that he would get the necessary votes, mind you, just that there would be an improvement. But no. What a disaster Jordan is...

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Shadow_Don
10/20/23 12:07:16 PM
#414:


Starks posted...
The hatred and threats on TDW are hitting new heights.

Is that the trump forum?

Can't imagine it getting worse than the month prior to jan 6.

I remember seeing people say they wanted to rip mail drivers out of their trucks and execute them.

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toreysback
10/20/23 12:07:46 PM
#415:


no 4th vote right now; another closed door therapy session is in order for the gop

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shadow_dreamer
10/20/23 12:08:06 PM
#416:


Random question I was thinking about... If by a literal miracle, enough Repubs don't show up or defect and Jeffries did win, could he actually do anything to change the rule that says it only takes a single member to call a vacate vote, or could they start spamming vacate vote calls before he could get the rule removed?
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Starks
10/20/23 12:08:17 PM
#417:


Yes, that Trump forum. Where any dissent or deviation from the 24/7 coke party gets you labeled in dozens of homophobic terms.

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brestugo
10/20/23 12:08:48 PM
#418:


FearlessMango posted...
I posted in #39 in this topic that the Washington Post reported that there were 55 Republican opponents to Jordan who will continue to up the opposition votes against him with each round

So it does look like they're doing what they said they would

Sounds like they want to send a message.

I'd take that message as "we've got greater numbers and can coordinate these votes if we have to", if I were Gymbo Slice. As soon as he understands that message, his shitshow ends.

None of which gives any indication of who will be the next Speaker though.

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Tyranthraxus
10/20/23 12:08:54 PM
#419:


This is gonna fucking end with McCarthy being elected speaker isn't it

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CableZL
10/20/23 12:09:20 PM
#420:


shadow_dreamer posted...
Random question I was thinking about... If by a literal miracle, enough Repubs don't show up or defect and Jeffries did win, could he actually do anything to change the rule that says it only takes a single member to call a vacate vote, or could they start spamming vacate vote calls before he could get the rule removed?

They would have to have the house vote on a new rules package, I believe.

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toreysback
10/20/23 12:09:42 PM
#421:


right now, it looks like it ends with no one being elected speaker

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Starks
10/20/23 12:11:00 PM
#423:


The Donald

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Tyranthraxus
10/20/23 12:11:28 PM
#424:


We should amend the Constitution so that if there's no Speaker of the house for more than 1 week the VP gets full powers of the speaker until such a time that a new speaker is elected.

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shadow_dreamer
10/20/23 12:11:57 PM
#425:


CableZL posted...
They would have to have the house vote on a new rules package, I believe.

Right, but I am asking could they start spamming vacate votes BEFORE anyone calls for a rules package vote, or do they automatically have a new rules package vote when a new speaker is elected or something? Like would we just get non stop vacate votes that keep failing like McCarthy/Jim votes and just wind up equally paralyzed but on a different vote.
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ArchonKnight
10/20/23 12:12:35 PM
#426:


shadow_dreamer posted...
Random question I was thinking about... If by a literal miracle, enough Repubs don't show up or defect and Jeffries did win, could he actually do anything to change the rule that says it only takes a single member to call a vacate vote, or could they start spamming vacate vote calls before he could get the rule removed?

I'm pretty sure it only takes one vote from someone from that party, so it would have to be another from the Democrat caucus. At least that's how I understood it from before McCarthy got the motion from Gaetz.

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Unsuprised_Pika
10/20/23 12:13:07 PM
#427:


YoBlazer posted...
The potential for voting strategies are at least interesting. It's already been reported that some Republicans intentionally "staggered" their Not Jordan votes so as to make him lose support over time and quash his momentum (he's had negative momentum thus far).

I wonder if Democrats have thought to employ similar strategies by simply not showing up. There are 433 House Reps at the moment, and 212 are Democrats. Jeffries has been getting a guaranteed 212 every time. They could try to goad the Republicans into not showing up to future votes by... not showing up themselves and giving the Republicans a sense of security. Unless I've missed some rule, if ten Republicans are absent for a vote while Jeffries gets his full 212, he becomes the speaker.

That would be beautiful but very dangerous

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Strider102
10/20/23 12:13:49 PM
#428:


Lol

Gaetz telling Dems they need to compromise, and saying they're not at fault for threats of violence.

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aarrgus
10/20/23 12:16:55 PM
#431:


...aaaand Republican has drawn up a resolution to vacate the Speaker.... sorry I mean the acting speaker...

https://twitter.com/FarnoushAmiri/status/1715396868929204553


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Strider102
10/20/23 12:17:15 PM
#432:


Gaetz again with the "if we have to compromise with Dems we will"

Bullshit

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MistyKnight
10/20/23 12:17:20 PM
#433:


Starks posted...
The hatred and threats on TDW are hitting new heights.
Tdw?

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Strider102
10/20/23 12:18:03 PM
#434:


aarrgus posted...
...aaaand Republican has drawn up a resolution to vacate the Speaker.... sorry I mean the acting speaker...

https://twitter.com/FarnoushAmiri/status/1715396868929204553

Lol they're really pissed

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aarrgus
10/20/23 12:18:54 PM
#435:


https://twitter.com/chrisjollyhale/status/1715400116125720885

It has 30 signatures.

The Republican party circling the drain.

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Unsuprised_Pika
10/20/23 12:19:08 PM
#436:


Strider102 posted...
Gaetz again with the "if we have to compromise with Dems we will"

Bullshit



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Strider102
10/20/23 12:19:18 PM
#437:


"Some people are putting personal politics above everything else, the people want Jordan."

Lol

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ScazarMeltex
10/20/23 12:19:28 PM
#438:


Unsuprised_Pika posted...
That would be beautiful but very dangerous
I don't think the dems are capable of that sort of Realpolitick. If they were they would have been able to better exploit this situation form the get go.

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Strider102
10/20/23 12:20:31 PM
#440:


Nancy Mace talking about how she receives death threats every day for years along with vandalism and wants Jordan.

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kingdrake2
10/20/23 12:21:18 PM
#441:


GranolaPanic posted...
Democrats need to tell Gaetz to shut up.


that's right.

GranolaPanic posted...
Is there a backup for him?


yes. it'll got to the #2 on Carthy's List of Temporary Speakers.

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ScazarMeltex
10/20/23 12:21:34 PM
#442:


GranolaPanic posted...
This is complete and total chaos. If McHenry gets removed, then what happens? Is there a backup for him?
I'm not sure honestly. We are so far into the unprecedented at this point that it's up in the air.

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dummy420
10/20/23 12:21:47 PM
#443:


aarrgus posted...
...aaaand Republican has drawn up a resolution to vacate the Speaker.... sorry I mean the acting speaker...

https://twitter.com/FarnoushAmiri/status/1715396868929204553
Ok what would this accomplish besides further halting everything? Is it just a temper tantrum? I'm really asking.

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Strider102
10/20/23 12:22:51 PM
#444:


"It's the democrats fault and responsibility to compromise"

Lol

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SF_Okami
10/20/23 12:22:52 PM
#445:


Strider102 posted...
Nancy Mace talking about how she receives death threats every day for years along with vandalism and wants Jordan.
I don't watch politics, but these votes are facinating to me. But that woman taking all those legitimately horrible experiences and spinning it into supporting her choice is kinda gross. Sounded like garnering sympathy. Yeah no one deserves what she has been through assuming it is all true, but then to end it with a political statement just makes me distrust her and I dont even know her.

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Kai_Laguna
10/20/23 12:22:55 PM
#446:


GranolaPanic posted...
This is complete and total chaos. If McHenry gets removed, then what happens? Is there a backup for him?
Whoever's next on McCarthy's list and they hope he's less principled then McHenry.
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luigi33
10/20/23 12:22:56 PM
#447:


At last, we are seeing the total unraveling of the Republican Party. It was inevitable but I didn't expect it this soon.

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toreysback
10/20/23 12:23:46 PM
#448:


if there is no temporary chair, then the house cannot even vote for a speaker. therefore, the house is 100% nonfunctional, rather than 99%

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MathMurderer
10/20/23 12:25:31 PM
#449:


MistyKnight posted...
Tdw?
If I had to guess: The Daily Wire

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