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Block_that_Kick
10/18/23 11:11:56 PM
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Gym is having a sad tonight. Lets see if he does better tomorrow.

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EyeWontBeFooled
10/18/23 11:12:37 PM
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Block_that_Kick posted...
Gym is having a sad tonight. Lets see if he does better tomorrow.
He will not.

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Starks
10/18/23 11:12:52 PM
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How does McHenry get more power? Parliamentary inquiry asserting greater authority, McHenry denies, the ruling of the chair appealed by bipartisan majority?

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blacklabelice
10/18/23 11:17:39 PM
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i'm having a blast watching gym jordan getting kicked in the dick and i wouldn't mind seeing it happen another 20+ times, but at the same time i wouldnt mind seeing the house get their shit together and elect a speaker. its already been 15 days now and nothing is getting done. hopefully these dysfunctional clowns can find someone to run who isn't batshit crazy or out to screw the whole country. but i guess that's a tall order at this point. especially when ken buck is their voice of reason.

one thing is for certain though. i'm gonna need more popcorn for tomorrow.

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pedro45
10/18/23 11:20:18 PM
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Wow. These topics happen fast

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KajeI
10/18/23 11:23:46 PM
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UltimateWing
10/18/23 11:24:12 PM
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It can only get worse for Gym. Serves him right.

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Sir_Will
10/18/23 11:25:42 PM
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What a mess.

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Tyranthraxus
10/18/23 11:29:02 PM
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What will we have more of? House Speaker 500 topics or floor votes for Speaker?

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Zikten
10/18/23 11:30:36 PM
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I'm hoping for a Democrat Speaker
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blacklabelice
10/18/23 11:43:28 PM
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Zikten posted...
I'm hoping for a Democrat Speaker


i dont see it ever happening as that would be political suicide for the republicans political careers come their next election term, but at the same time i would find it absolutely hilarious if the democrats can somehow convince 5 republicans to either vote present, or heaven forbid, vote for the honorable hakeem jeffries.

the republican house would be absolutely bonkers, and they would be eating each other alive. hilarious for everybody else though.

i really don't see anything crazy like that ever happening. perhaps if it becomes clear that the nomination is either going to be gym jordan or hakeem jeffreys and nothing is going to change, perhaps after a few hundred votes on a dead ballot it could play out in the democrat favor. but there is absolutely no way those republicans would risk doing that, because they would get ran out of town by their own party members. somebody would have to fund a seperate FBI and police division from all the death threats those defectors would surely receive from their constituents.

it would plunge the GOP into complete chaos and perhaps even destroy their whole party in the 2024 election. but with that being said, i would totally welcome this.


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Sariana21
10/18/23 11:49:52 PM
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Two Republican House members have already announced theyre not running for re-election. So what do they have to lose?

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EyeWontBeFooled
10/18/23 11:52:23 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
What will we have more of? House Speaker 500 topics or floor votes for Speaker?
500 House Speaker topics, clearly.

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Ar0ge
10/18/23 11:54:38 PM
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luigi33
10/18/23 11:56:15 PM
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Are we finally seeing the unraveling of the Republican Party? I've never seen this big of a break away from Trumpism. A year ago Gym would've pushed his weight around much easier than this.

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realnifty1
10/19/23 12:01:04 AM
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Sariana21 posted...
Two Republican House members have already announced theyre not running for re-election. So what do they have to lose?

Their lives is the unfortunate answer.
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Zikten
10/19/23 12:02:05 AM
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luigi33 posted...
Are we finally seeing the unraveling of the Republican Party? I've never seen this big of a break away from Trumpism. A year ago Gym would've pushed his weight around much easier than this.
Maybe a bunch of people finally came back to sanity. Perhaps they suddenly realized how bad it was getting and they didn't want their legacy to be the destruction of the country
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Zero_Destroyer
10/19/23 12:05:46 AM
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luigi33 posted...
Are we finally seeing the unraveling of the Republican Party? I've never seen this big of a break away from Trumpism. A year ago Gym would've pushed his weight around much easier than this.

It's not super common for a political party in the states to both be run by a cult of personality and lose massive amounts of ground three election cycles in a row. Trump gave Rs a trifecta in 2016 and if they lose in 2024 it'll be the fourth time in a row Trump cost them political leverage.

They are very much so tearing at the seams. The only things keeping them tethered together at all is A: they have a good chance of winning the senate in 2024 and B: Biden is a weak incumbent. They have hope of retaking power, but if they lose that, I don't see how the party doesn't collapse outside of the state level.

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Quorthon109
10/19/23 12:05:50 AM
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Gaetz fucked them and Gaetz wants Jordan, so that's reason enough for some of them to never vote for Jordan. I've also read that some are standing firm in not wanting an election denier as Speaker, which supposedly killed both Jordan and Scalise the first time.

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andel
10/19/23 12:11:01 AM
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hopefully ken buck and the other holdouts don't prove to be as spineless as they usually are. republicans that are actually interested in governing have no reason to cave to jordan who has never authored any successful legislation in his 16 year career. hopefully jordan continues to bleed support and some supposedly moderate gop members are forced to compromise with democrats on a moderate speaker.

if jordan doesn't get the votes there is no path forward for any republican unless they compromise with democrats. in that scenario the democrats would be able to demand concessions and at least ensure we get ukraine funding and the government stays open. it would also enrage the insane cultist wing of the gop and the cultist voters which would lead to even more gop infighting which would be good for democrats and america long term

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Cemith
10/19/23 12:11:56 AM
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EyeWontBeFooled posted...
He will not.

Wondering if rechudlicans will ever acquiesce on Gym and vote Jeffries out of spite

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andel
10/19/23 12:12:47 AM
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Quorthon109 posted...
Gaetz fucked them and Gaetz wants Jordan, so that's reason enough for some of them to never vote for Jordan. I've also read that some are standing firm in not wanting an election denier as Speaker, which supposedly killed both Jordan and Scalise the first time.

yeah, ken buck (who is an ultra conservative) refused to vote for steve 'david duke without the baggage' scalise and jordan because they are election deniers. buck is not a moderate in any world but even a few far right conservatives refuse to fold to the terrorists. hopefully they keep that spine

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mystic_belmont
10/19/23 3:40:41 AM
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Republicans are getting death threats from their own constituents.

Wow.

I am not surprised.

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008Zulu
10/19/23 3:43:47 AM
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pedro45 posted...
Wow. These topics happen fast
They can barely keep up with the number of failed House Speakers.

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ai123
10/19/23 3:47:20 AM
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BBC News:

Republican lawmakers say they have been targeted by intimidation tactics, including death threats, from allies of Jim Jordan as his bid for the US House of Representatives speakership falters.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67153625

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DarthAragorn
10/19/23 4:00:53 AM
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Republicans are scum

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GranAures
10/19/23 4:15:24 AM
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ai123 posted...
Republican lawmakers say they have been targeted by intimidation tactics, including death threats, from allies of Jim Jordan as his bid for the US House of Representatives speakership falters.
Bet they never thought it would be their face.

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GrandConjuraton
10/19/23 4:39:58 AM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Republicans are scum


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Doom_Art
10/19/23 7:28:49 AM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Republicans are scum
Hear hear

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toreysback
10/19/23 7:32:52 AM
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are they really stupid enough to go thru the ritual again today, only to find out that jordan has now fallen even farther from his goal?

i mean, i know they are stupid but are they really THAT stupid?

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TomClark
10/19/23 7:35:58 AM
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toreysback posted...
i mean, i know they are stupid but are they really THAT stupid?

Every single time we think that they can't do something more stupid than before, they go even further.

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Inohira
10/19/23 7:48:51 AM
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toreysback posted...
are they really stupid enough to go thru the ritual again today, only to find out that jordan has now fallen even farther from his goal?

i mean, i know they are stupid but are they really THAT stupid?

Well the idea is that you negotiate and make concessions to win over additional votes.

I don't know what the fuck Jordan was doing yesterday to somehow not gain a vote but lose one.

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toreysback
10/19/23 7:54:41 AM
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i suppose he could double down on bluster and death threats

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dummy420
10/19/23 8:06:05 AM
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Topic 3. Wonder how many we get to after they are literally threatening the lives of congress members and their families. That will sure win ole Jimmy boy some votes.

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UnrivaledKoopa
10/19/23 8:37:38 AM
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Those refusing to support Jordan are doing so to refuse to let the insurrectionists who started this win. You can win a battle but not the war.

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mystic_belmont
10/19/23 10:05:55 AM
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So any votes for today?

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Starks
10/19/23 10:10:21 AM
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Yes, around noon. He might have 30 votes against him this time.

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mystic_belmont
10/19/23 10:11:46 AM
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Starks posted...
Yes, around noon. He might have 30 votes against him this time.

Dude didn't accept his election loss against Scalise.

I guess the GOP is going to have to keep teaching him.

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FearlessMango
10/19/23 10:22:45 AM
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Theres a coordinated effort among the 55 Republicans who opposed Jordan in an internal conference meeting last week to build on their votes of opposition to ensure that he loses more votes each round, according to three Republicans familiar with the plan. In other words, he loses more votes with each round he holds

according to a WaPo article https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/10/19/jim-jordan-wont-be-next-speaker/

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GranAures
10/19/23 10:28:32 AM
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TomClark posted...
Every single time we think that they can't do something more stupid than before, they go even further.
"And this is to derp even further beyond."

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Block_that_Kick
10/19/23 10:29:46 AM
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FearlessMango posted...
according to a WaPo article https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/10/19/jim-jordan-wont-be-next-speaker/

Its like when Trump was granted a recount, it actually gave Biden even more votes.

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VFalcone
10/19/23 11:09:05 AM
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mystic_belmont posted...
Dude didn't accept his election loss against Scalise.

I guess the GOP is going to have to keep teaching him.
Well it's because someone is committing fraud and stealing the election from him. I don't know who, but it's someone

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brestugo
10/19/23 11:18:37 AM
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Sariana21 posted...
Two Republican House members have already announced theyre not running for re-election. So what do they have to lose?

Anyone in a swing district is basically dead meat running as a Republican after this shitshow. Might have a chance as an independent, but then they lose their place in the GOP caucus - for what it's worth.

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Tyranthraxus
10/19/23 11:21:11 AM
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brestugo posted...
Anyone in a swing district is basically dead meat running as a Republican after this shitshow. Might have a chance as an independent, but then they lose their place in the GOP caucus - for what it's worth.

Gerrymandering makes it impossible for independents / third parties to win in House races. The only time we had one was when Amash switched to Libertarian mid term and then he was out immediately after.

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name_unknown
10/19/23 11:21:39 AM
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Jordan won't hold third speaker vote today and leans toward backing McHenry resolution
From CNN's Melanie Zanona
Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan wont hold a third speaker vote today, sources tell CNN, as he has struggled to flip Republican holdouts and was at risk of bleeding more support.
He is now also leaning toward backing a resolution to empower interim Speaker Patrick McHenry, sources said, but wants to see how today's House Republican Conference meeting goes.
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name_unknown
10/19/23 11:23:37 AM
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Virginia Rep. Bob Good, a close ally of Rep. Jim Jordan and one of the eight Republicans who voted to oust Kevin McCarthy as House speaker, defended his vote and projected confidence that Jordan would ultimately win the speaker's gavel.
Good told CNN on Thursday that he didnt trust McCarthy to keep his word and that if they hadnt voted to oust the California Republican, nothing would have gotten done.
What we didn't do under Kevin McCarthy for nine months suddenly would have happened in the last two weeks? the Virginia Republican said, referring to House spending bills. He said he would do a lot of things that didn't happen."
Good criticized the Republican holdouts who are so far refusing to back Jordan for speaker. Twenty-two Republicans voted against Jordan on Wednesday in the second round of voting for his speakership bid, up from the 20 who did not back him on the first ballot.
No one else has 200 votes. And those who are opposing him have some made no message and no sale as to why they're against him, Good said.
He continued: Why would we want to start over and take another week or two to try to find someone else to even get close to 200? There are no other candidates at this point. Jim Jordan represents the conservative center of the conference. He represents the grassroots voters who gave us the majority. Theres nobody else but Jim Jordan.

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toreysback
10/19/23 11:29:28 AM
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i can't imagine jordan subjecting himself to another vote today

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Kaldrenthebold
10/19/23 11:30:55 AM
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name_unknown posted...
Virginia Rep. Bob Good, a close ally of Rep. Jim Jordan and one of the eight Republicans who voted to oust Kevin McCarthy as House speaker, defended his vote and projected confidence that Jordan would ultimately win the speaker's gavel.
Good told CNN on Thursday that he didnt trust McCarthy to keep his word and that if they hadnt voted to oust the California Republican, nothing would have gotten done.
What we didn't do under Kevin McCarthy for nine months suddenly would have happened in the last two weeks? the Virginia Republican said, referring to House spending bills. He said he would do a lot of things that didn't happen."
Good criticized the Republican holdouts who are so far refusing to back Jordan for speaker. Twenty-two Republicans voted against Jordan on Wednesday in the second round of voting for his speakership bid, up from the 20 who did not back him on the first ballot.
He continued: Why would we want to start over and take another week or two to try to find someone else to even get close to 200? There are no other candidates at this point. Jim Jordan represents the conservative center of the conference. He represents the grassroots voters who gave us the majority. Theres nobody else but Jim Jordan.

Good comes off as I meant to burn down the house

"no one else has 200 votes"

Hakeen Jeffries looking over with 212 like wtf dawg.

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dummy420
10/19/23 11:31:23 AM
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Don't see why they would start now.

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