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darkace77450
10/24/23 5:11:46 PM
#450:


Starks posted...
Why is Stefanik staying out of this?

The whole "women are too emotional to lead" thing so many Republicans espouse?
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Cemith
10/24/23 5:13:44 PM
#451:


UnrivaledKoopa posted...
It truly seems like the only path forward is some kind of deal with Democrats. Democrats actually have a ton of leverage since they only need to turn five votes if they agree on collective action.

I don't see a way GOP gets anyone elected speaker. They fought historically long for McCarthy, and that's been wholly eclipsed in this vote for the newest. This is just the McCarthy vote but worse.

Don't get me wrong, I love the in fighting, and Republicans hating each other only creates smiles for me, but knowing my taxes pay for them to play bullshit all day angers me.

It's hopefully going to be Jeffries but it'll take an act of God for even a handful to vote him.

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tremain07
10/24/23 5:13:45 PM
#452:


We might actually end up with either Speaker Trump or a forever shutdown

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Alucard188
10/24/23 5:14:35 PM
#453:


So the guy that won the nomination stepped down before he even got to the house for a vote. What the fuck are they doing?

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UnholyMudcrab
10/24/23 5:16:09 PM
#454:


Alucard188 posted...
So the guy that won the nomination stepped down before he even got to the house for a vote. What the fuck are they doing?
Their best

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Inohira
10/24/23 5:20:50 PM
#455:


Alucard188 posted...
So the guy that won the nomination stepped down before he even got to the house for a vote. What the fuck are they doing?

Jim Jordan types are the only ones unhinged enough to go ahead with a election they obviously don't have the votes for. Emmer knew to spare himself the embarrassment.

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tremain07
10/24/23 5:21:47 PM
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You know, this act alone kind of makes one question why there's even a republican primary, Trump's the guy, dude just tanked a potential speaker just because he dared to say Biden won and it was over for him before he got to the floor like whose it even for at this point?

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thronedfire2
10/24/23 5:28:23 PM
#458:


tremain07 posted...
You know, this act alone kind of makes one question why there's even a republican primary, Trump's the guy, dude just tanked a potential speaker just because he dared to say Biden won and it was over for him before he got to the floor like whose it even for at this point?

they need that campaign money

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Cemith
10/24/23 5:29:25 PM
#459:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
Their best

A scathing critique.

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Dark_Moon
10/24/23 5:30:52 PM
#460:


When the democrats get control again they really need to pass a bill where they do not get paid during shutdowns.

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creativerealms
10/24/23 5:33:03 PM
#461:


Inohira posted...
Jim Jordan types are the only ones unhinged enough to go ahead with a election they obviously don't have the votes for. Emmer knew to spare himself the embarrassment.
Emmer right have been able to get some more establishment Dems to vote for him. Which would have hurt him even more. If that's how he won his career would be over.

The republicans have doomed themselves. It was a slow doom they could have reversed even a few years ago but they started to believe their own lies and are now at the point of no return. If I was a republican representative in a purple district I would be worried right now. All of them are in huge danger the longer this lasts.

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darkace77450
10/24/23 5:35:12 PM
#463:


GranolaPanic posted...
A third of GOP House Reps thinks the election was stolen and wont ever vote for a speaker nominee that voted to certify it.

Slight correction, very few of them actually believe the election was stolen; they pretend to believe it because it's politically expedient to do so.
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TomClark
10/24/23 5:38:14 PM
#464:


darkace77450 posted...
Slight correction, very few of them actually believe the election was stolen; they pretend to believe it because it's politically expedient to do so.

I genuinely think that MTG is the only one who actually believes it, tbh.

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CableZL
10/24/23 5:39:24 PM
#465:


TomClark posted...
I genuinely think that MTG is the only one who actually believes it, tbh.
Yeah, she's pretty dumb. So that's possible.

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creativerealms
10/24/23 5:40:34 PM
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TomClark posted...
I genuinely think that MTG is the only one who actually believes it, tbh.
Everyone on the "freedom caucus" believes Trump won. I doubt anyone whose had their seat for over a decade, including Jin Jordan, believes that lie though. Jordan likely just saw Trump as his path to more power.

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Starks
10/24/23 5:41:18 PM
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This is a cautionary tale for any party with a narrow majority, but the dems never acted this way.

Even if the GOP had 240, it's possible that people will just shift and group up to carve out power.

We're watching the GOP die in some respects.

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thronedfire2
10/24/23 5:42:15 PM
#468:


creativerealms posted...
Everyone on the "freedom caucus" believes Trump won. I doubt anyone whose had their seat for over a decade, including Jin Jordan, believes that lie though. Jordan likely just saw Trump as his path to more power.

I doubt any of them actually believe he won

it's all sunken cost fallacy at this point, plus half their voter base is a cult

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Inohira
10/24/23 5:49:06 PM
#469:


creativerealms posted...
Emmer right have been able to get some more establishment Dems to vote for him. Which would have hurt him even more. If that's how he won his career would be over.

Yeah one of the main complaints Trumpers have right now is how there should be no more "Uniparty" speakers, and getting bipartisan votes would be seen as definitive proof of what they hate.

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VFalcone
10/24/23 5:50:46 PM
#470:


GranolaPanic posted...
The lunatics see Trumps support as more important than anything else. Hes seen as the kingmaker. If he doesnt agree with the nominee, theyre out of luck.
I really wonder what happens when Trump dies. Almost afraid to find out
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Starks
10/24/23 5:51:45 PM
#471:


It's really time for the party to split along caucus lines.

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tremain07
10/24/23 5:54:23 PM
#472:


Which is especially dumb because being Speaker of the house even if their party has a majority always involves talking to the opposition and making deals with them

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Block_that_Kick
10/24/23 5:54:30 PM
#473:


The longest time the House has ever gone without a Speaker was 61 days, between 12/3/1855 and 2/2/1856.

Will this vacancy surpass that? We are 21 days in.

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VFalcone
10/24/23 5:57:18 PM
#474:


We should keep making more Part 3 topics until a speaker is elected. To represent the stagnation
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Inohira
10/24/23 5:57:38 PM
#475:


Apparently there are only 6 candidates for the next conference vote.

Part of the problem is that barely anyone wants the job, so options are limited.

tremain07 posted...
Which is especially dumb because being Speaker of the house even if their party has a majority always involves talking to the opposition and making deals with them

The GOP's done with that. The Freedom Caucus wants House bills to pass with a party line majority or not at all.

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variasuite
10/24/23 5:57:57 PM
#476:


Block_that_Kick posted...
The longest time the House has ever gone without a Speaker was 61 days, between 12/3/1855 and 2/2/1856.

Will this vacancy surpass that? We are 21 days in.
Probably. These idiots don't care.

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Dark_Moon
10/24/23 6:00:06 PM
#477:


Block_that_Kick posted...
The longest time the House has ever gone without a Speaker was 61 days, between 12/3/1855 and 2/2/1856.

Will this vacancy surpass that? We are 21 days in.
I'm expecting the government will still not have a speaker when the government is shutdown and for them to leave it as such until 2025 and the Dem take back majority.

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littlebro07
10/24/23 6:00:15 PM
#478:


What happens if theres still no speaker by Inauguration Day?

edit: actually, what about whatever the day is called where they certify the election?

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BombermanGold
10/24/23 6:00:28 PM
#479:


I don't see the Dems not leaving the door open for negotiation...

The way the GOP are behaving right now stopped being funny. This is just outright pathetic.
Even moreso with some who think that trying to strike any sort of compromise with another party is tantamount to doing a crime.

I mean, if you refuse to deal with another political party at all...then what's the point of being a politician in the first place?

Just shows how many in the current crop of GOP are for nothing but power.
I know there are Dems that are similar, but at least they are trying to govern for the people (most of em at least).

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Dark-Summoner
10/24/23 6:00:39 PM
#480:


Inohira posted...
Apparently there are only 6 candidates for the next conference vote.

Part of the problem is that barely anyone wants the job, so options are limited.

The GOP's done with that. The Freedom Caucus wants House bills to pass with a party line majority or not at all.
The republican party is this way now.

Also I saw the dumbest take. Republicans are fighting for their party. "Democrats just went with the radicals."
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thronedfire2
10/24/23 6:03:13 PM
#482:


littlebro07 posted...
What happens if theres still no speaker by Inauguration Day?

edit: actually, what about whatever the day is called where they certify the election?

the VP oversees that so maybe it wouldn't matter?

although if there's no speaker by then I doubt the government is even functioning correctly overall

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BombermanGold
10/24/23 6:04:19 PM
#483:


Dark-Summoner posted...
Also I saw the dumbest take. Republicans are fighting for their party. "Democrats just went with the radicals."

I'm guessing Reddit/Twitter nonsense.

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littlebro07
10/24/23 6:08:45 PM
#484:


thronedfire2 posted...
the VP oversees that so maybe it wouldn't matter?

although if there's no speaker by then I doubt the government is even functioning correctly overall

Fair, I already forgot about the pending shutdown that cant be resolved without a speaker.

God, the GOP is such a fucking joke lol


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Starks
10/24/23 6:09:06 PM
#485:


littlebro07 posted...
What happens if theres still no speaker by Inauguration Day?

edit: actually, what about whatever the day is called where they certify the election?
Nobody can be sworn in. For this year, that would only cover special elections and vacancies.

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toreysback
10/24/23 6:13:24 PM
#486:


i think it may be time for speaker santos

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Block_that_Kick
10/24/23 6:29:06 PM
#487:


Lol, oh come the fuck on!

https://twitter.com/stephen_neukam/status/1716940097978073389

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Shadow_Don
10/24/23 6:32:00 PM
#488:


Block_that_Kick posted...
Lol, oh come the fuck on!

https://twitter.com/stephen_neukam/status/1716940097978073389

The fuck does that even mean?

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uwnim
10/24/23 6:32:23 PM
#489:


Shadow_Don posted...
The fuck does that even mean?
Idk. Like they alternate days or weeks?

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kiwimyweewee
10/24/23 6:32:55 PM
#490:


House speaker time share

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Starks
10/24/23 6:33:08 PM
#491:


The House of Representatives shall chuse [sic] their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

Speaker. Singular.

They'd have to do a rotation agreement, which may not even be allowed without whole House majority votes.

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chris1001_the_sequel
10/24/23 6:35:31 PM
#492:


Starks posted...
It's really time for the party to split along caucus lines.

The problem (for the GOP) is that if they split like that, they will almost never win any election and they know it.
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Starks
10/24/23 6:37:25 PM
#493:


chris1001_the_sequel posted...
The problem (for the GOP) is that if they split like that, they will almost never win any election and they know it.
Cross-endorsements can still occur. And NY has fusion voting as a pressure release valve for safe, transferrable protest votes.

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brestugo
10/24/23 6:38:17 PM
#494:


Might as well nominate George Santos at this point.

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Starks
10/24/23 6:38:38 PM
#495:


brestugo posted...
Might as well nominate George Santos at this point.
*cries in his district*

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uwnim
10/24/23 6:39:22 PM
#496:


brestugo posted...
Might as well nominate George Santos at this point.
tbh, he'd be the perfect speaker for the current GOP.

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Kaldrenthebold
10/24/23 6:39:23 PM
#497:


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ClayGuida
10/24/23 6:39:50 PM
#498:


littlebro07 posted...
What happens if theres still no speaker by Inauguration Day?

edit: actually, what about whatever the day is called where they certify the election?
New Congress would be in session first

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10/24/23 6:41:10 PM
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Starks
10/24/23 6:41:14 PM
#500:


Tenbatsu

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