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justaguy3492 10/19/23 4:52:09 PM #1:	https://www.vice.com/en/article/4a3bdm/canada-will-legalize-medically-assisted-dying-for-people-addicted-to-drugs Looks like it's set to happen, but there is still committee meetings and what not challenging it. I'm all for MAID for those who need it, but idk if drug addicts quite fall into that category. Thoughts? Just reread my topic title and it's a bit confusing, it's not requiring MAID for drug addicts, but rather an option for them. --- Gt: justaguy3492 <cite>justaguy3492 posted [p:976749898] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>https://www.vice.com/en/article/4a3bdm/canada-will-legalize-medically-assisted-dying-for-people-addicted-to-drugsLooks like it's set to happen, but there is still committee meetings and what not challenging it. I'm all for MAID for those who need it, but idk if drug addicts quite fall into that category. Thoughts?Just reread my topic title and it's a bit confusing, it's not requiring MAID for drug addicts, but rather an option for them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 10/19/23 4:58:03 PM #2:	same vibes https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/7/8/AAOGRhAAE86e.jpg --- https://i.imgur.com/TGkNCva.gif <cite>FL81 posted [p:976750006] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>same vibeshttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/7/8/AAOGRhAAE86e.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DKBananaSlamma 10/19/23 4:59:34 PM #3:	FL81 posted... same vibes https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/7/8/AAOGRhAAE86e.jpg lmao --- Neon >_> <cite>DKBananaSlamma posted [p:976750033] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>FL81 posted... </cite><quote>same vibeshttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/7/8/AAOGRhAAE86e.jpg</quote>lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 10/19/23 4:59:54 PM #4:	I dont like this at all as someone who have many clients who have this issue. In dont see this being an answer. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:976750042] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>I dont like this at all as someone who have many clients who have this issue. In dont see this being an answer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 10/19/23 5:00:46 PM #5:	Like 20 year olds? <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:976750060] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>Like 20 year olds?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BewmHedshot 10/19/23 5:01:20 PM #6:	The Brtish are the same people that didn't get the joke in A Modest Proposal, so I wouldn't be shocked if they literally put homeless people in trash compactors. <cite>BewmHedshot posted [p:976750072] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>The Brtish are the same people that didn't get the joke in A Modest Proposal, so I wouldn't be shocked if they literally put homeless people in trash compactors.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tora_Sami 10/19/23 5:03:04 PM #8:	MAID should be for everyone, imo. If your tired of living just let it go. Better then people having to find your corpse, majority of the time, in a horrible way. --- Asus E-gaming z490 \| 10700k \| DDR4 32gb 3200mhz \| Asus TUF 3080ti \| 1000 watt \| Corsair H100i 240 \| G7 Odyssey 32" \| Orion Spark \| Proteus Core <cite>Tora_Sami posted [p:976750103] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>MAID should be for everyone, imo. If your tired of living just let it go. Better then people having to find your corpse, majority of the time, in a horrible way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 10/19/23 5:13:41 PM #9:	BewmHedshot posted... The Brtish are the same people that didn't get the joke in A Modest Proposal, so I wouldn't be shocked if they literally put homeless people in trash compactors. In the sense that they treated it as comedy, rather than satire. It wasn't taken at face value. --- You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level <cite>ai123 posted [p:976750294] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>BewmHedshot posted... </cite><quote>The Brtish are the same people that didn't get the joke in A Modest Proposal, so I wouldn't be shocked if they literally put homeless people in trash compactors.</quote>In the sense that they treated it as comedy, rather than satire. It wasn't taken at face value. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff_AKA_Snoopy 10/19/23 8:10:19 PM #10:	As someone who went through the MAID process for a partner who had mental health as part of their "case" so to speak, I feel like I have to say something to those who fear that an expansion of this service will lead to "eugenics" or something like that. We boast in Canada about "Universal Health Care" but we don't fund it in that way. Don't get me wrong, in comparison to our neighbors to the south we have it really good, but how can we claim "universal health" yet most people still need to pay for their own dental coverage, mental health support, eye doctors. What expanding MAID to allow for mental health and addictions is to look at someone as a whole. Lindsay was told by some professionals that her "depression and anxiety" meant that she did not qualify for MAID. ... in what world does someone who has intense medical problems not struggle with depression and anxiety? And how does the presence of these things supersede the horrible consequences of her physical health diagnoses? That element of the total health of a person should not discount them from MAID, which is what is happening to people who want to end their suffering but cannot given the current construction of the laws. What changing this law will do is to allow for medical professionals to have the right to look at the entire health of a person, their lived experience and EVERYTHING that comes with it, in order for the medical expert and the person suffering to come to a conclusion together. Never will the expansion of this law mean that the government has an "out" to creating more solutions to homelessness, addictions, mental health. No. What it does is allow a person who is suffering a proper opportunity to take control of how their life ends... instead of suffering to what the final result would be. Make no mistake about it, Lindsay was dying from her medical diagnoses, depression and anxiety or not. To me, opponents to this law simply are afraid that some people will choose to end their lives on their own terms. That fear is real; I experienced it first hand throughout the year Lindsay and I took that journey together. The only fear Lindsay had was being told no, that she didn't have the right to stop suffering. When Lindsay and I chatted with our second assessor (technically the fifth assessor we spoke to all together) and were given a yes, I wept. I knew what that meant. Lindsay cheered, because she knew what that meant. She finally could take control of a life that went entirely out of her control for years and put an end to the suffering and deterioration. She wouldn't have to die in a hospital gasping for air or any other terrible fate. Instead she could fall asleep peacefully not not have to wake up. Opponents of MAID and expanding it... I understand the fear. I lived it. The fear we have of our loved ones passing away does NOT permit us to deny our loved ones the right to self-determination. --- https://i.imgur.com/GWG5c3r.gif <cite>Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted [p:976753211] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>As someone who went through the MAID process for a partner who had mental health as part of their "case" so to speak, I feel like I have to say something to those who fear that an expansion of this service will lead to "eugenics" or something like that. We boast in Canada about "Universal Health Care" but we don't fund it in that way. Don't get me wrong, in comparison to our neighbors to the south we have it really good, but how can we claim "universal health" yet most people still need to pay for their own dental coverage, mental health support, eye doctors. What expanding MAID to allow for mental health and addictions is to look at someone as a whole. Lindsay was told by some professionals that her "depression and anxiety" meant that she did not qualify for MAID. ... in what world does someone who has intense medical problems not struggle with depression and anxiety? And how does the presence of these things supersede the horrible consequences of her physical health diagnoses? That element of the total health of a person should not discount them from MAID, which is what is happening to people who want to end their suffering but cannot given the current construction of the laws. What changing this law will do is to allow for medical professionals to have the right to look at the entire health of a person, their lived experience and EVERYTHING that comes with it, in order for the medical expert and the person suffering to come to a conclusion together. Never will the expansion of this law mean that the government has an "out" to creating more solutions to homelessness, addictions, mental health. No. What it does is allow a person who is suffering a proper opportunity to take control of how their life ends... instead of suffering to what the final result would be. Make no mistake about it, Lindsay was dying from her medical diagnoses, depression and anxiety or not. To me, opponents to this law simply are afraid that some people will choose to end their lives on their own terms. That fear is real; I experienced it first hand throughout the year Lindsay and I took that journey together. The only fear Lindsay had was being told no, that she didn't have the right to stop suffering. When Lindsay and I chatted with our second assessor (technically the fifth assessor we spoke to all together) and were given a yes, I wept. I knew what that meant. Lindsay cheered, because she knew what that meant. She finally could take control of a life that went entirely out of her control for years and put an end to the suffering and deterioration. She wouldn't have to die in a hospital gasping for air or any other terrible fate. Instead she could fall asleep peacefully not not have to wake up. Opponents of MAID and expanding it... I understand the fear. I lived it. The fear we have of our loved ones passing away does NOT permit us to deny our loved ones the right to self-determination. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Agent_Stroud 10/19/23 8:26:57 PM #11:	DKBananaSlamma posted... lmao Thats definitely one of those cases where whoever did the graphical designing for that banner shouldve given it another looksee before sending it off for mass production since thats definitely an oof! on their part. --- "We're going to shake things up, Morgan. Like old times." -- Alex Yu, Prey (2017) <cite>Agent_Stroud posted [p:976753486] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>DKBananaSlamma posted... </cite><quote>lmao</quote>Thats definitely one of those cases where whoever did the graphical designing for that banner shouldve given it another looksee before sending it off for mass production since thats definitely an oof! on their part. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 10/20/23 4:09:07 PM #12:	The thing is drug addiction is typically not the main issue. There are some underlining things that are hurting people and driving the do drugs. At least in America we are not good at even trying to fix those issues so people get deeper into drugs. Before lives are lost we all should try fixing those issues. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:976767785] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>The thing is drug addiction is typically not the main issue. There are some underlining things that are hurting people and driving the do drugs. At least in America we are not good at even trying to fix those issues so people get deeper into drugs. Before lives are lost we all should try fixing those issues. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 10/20/23 4:11:16 PM #13:	Tbf it should be available to everyone though singling out addicted to drugs is definitely eyebrow raising <cite>Axiom posted [p:976767815] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>Tbf it should be available to everyone though singling out addicted to drugs is definitely eyebrow raising</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
justaguy3492 10/20/23 4:17:46 PM #14:	Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted... As someone who went through the MAID process for a partner who had mental health as part of their "case" so to speak, I feel like I have to say something to those who fear that an expansion of this service will lead to "eugenics" or something like that. We boast in Canada about "Universal Health Care" but we don't fund it in that way. Don't get me wrong, in comparison to our neighbors to the south we have it really good, but how can we claim "universal health" yet most people still need to pay for their own dental coverage, mental health support, eye doctors. What expanding MAID to allow for mental health and addictions is to look at someone as a whole. Lindsay was told by some professionals that her "depression and anxiety" meant that she did not qualify for MAID. ... in what world does someone who has intense medical problems not struggle with depression and anxiety? And how does the presence of these things supersede the horrible consequences of her physical health diagnoses? That element of the total health of a person should not discount them from MAID, which is what is happening to people who want to end their suffering but cannot given the current construction of the laws. What changing this law will do is to allow for medical professionals to have the right to look at the entire health of a person, their lived experience and EVERYTHING that comes with it, in order for the medical expert and the person suffering to come to a conclusion together. Never will the expansion of this law mean that the government has an "out" to creating more solutions to homelessness, addictions, mental health. No. What it does is allow a person who is suffering a proper opportunity to take control of how their life ends... instead of suffering to what the final result would be. Make no mistake about it, Lindsay was dying from her medical diagnoses, depression and anxiety or not. To me, opponents to this law simply are afraid that some people will choose to end their lives on their own terms. That fear is real; I experienced it first hand throughout the year Lindsay and I took that journey together. The only fear Lindsay had was being told no, that she didn't have the right to stop suffering. When Lindsay and I chatted with our second assessor (technically the fifth assessor we spoke to all together) and were given a yes, I wept. I knew what that meant. Lindsay cheered, because she knew what that meant. She finally could take control of a life that went entirely out of her control for years and put an end to the suffering and deterioration. She wouldn't have to die in a hospital gasping for air or any other terrible fate. Instead she could fall asleep peacefully not not have to wake up. Opponents of MAID and expanding it... I understand the fear. I lived it. The fear we have of our loved ones passing away does NOT permit us to deny our loved ones the right to self-determination. I was interested in your thoughts on this, but I didn't want to ping you and reopen relatively fresh wounds (but thank you for contributing, and continuing to be open about your experience). The issue I had, and I'm not even 100% on my position, is this part "will be expanded next March to give access to people whose sole medical condition is mental illness, which can include substance use disorders." In your wife's case it makes total sense, she had mental health struggles but that was coupled with a host of other medical issues. In cases like that I don't see why mental health/drug abuse would influence MAID. It's the sole medical part that seems kind of iffy to me, but again I'm no expert and I can empathize with people who wish to expand MAID. --- Gt: justaguy3492 <cite>justaguy3492 posted [p:976767931] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted... </cite><quote>As someone who went through the MAID process for a partner who had mental health as part of their "case" so to speak, I feel like I have to say something to those who fear that an expansion of this service will lead to "eugenics" or something like that. We boast in Canada about "Universal Health Care" but we don't fund it in that way. Don't get me wrong, in comparison to our neighbors to the south we have it really good, but how can we claim "universal health" yet most people still need to pay for their own dental coverage, mental health support, eye doctors. What expanding MAID to allow for mental health and addictions is to look at someone as a whole. Lindsay was told by some professionals that her "depression and anxiety" meant that she did not qualify for MAID. ... in what world does someone who has intense medical problems not struggle with depression and anxiety? And how does the presence of these things supersede the horrible consequences of her physical health diagnoses? That element of the total health of a person should not discount them from MAID, which is what is happening to people who want to end their suffering but cannot given the current construction of the laws. What changing this law will do is to allow for medical professionals to have the right to look at the entire health of a person, their lived experience and EVERYTHING that comes with it, in order for the medical expert and the person suffering to come to a conclusion together. Never will the expansion of this law mean that the government has an "out" to creating more solutions to homelessness, addictions, mental health. No. What it does is allow a person who is suffering a proper opportunity to take control of how their life ends... instead of suffering to what the final result would be. Make no mistake about it, Lindsay was dying from her medical diagnoses, depression and anxiety or not. To me, opponents to this law simply are afraid that some people will choose to end their lives on their own terms. That fear is real; I experienced it first hand throughout the year Lindsay and I took that journey together. The only fear Lindsay had was being told no, that she didn't have the right to stop suffering. When Lindsay and I chatted with our second assessor (technically the fifth assessor we spoke to all together) and were given a yes, I wept. I knew what that meant. Lindsay cheered, because she knew what that meant. She finally could take control of a life that went entirely out of her control for years and put an end to the suffering and deterioration. She wouldn't have to die in a hospital gasping for air or any other terrible fate. Instead she could fall asleep peacefully not not have to wake up. Opponents of MAID and expanding it... I understand the fear. I lived it. The fear we have of our loved ones passing away does NOT permit us to deny our loved ones the right to self-determination.</quote>I was interested in your thoughts on this, but I didn't want to ping you and reopen relatively fresh wounds (but thank you for contributing, and continuing to be open about your experience). The issue I had, and I'm not even 100% on my position, is this part "will be expanded next March to give access to people whose sole medical condition is mental illness, which can include substance use disorders." In your wife's case it makes total sense, she had mental health struggles but that was coupled with a host of other medical issues. In cases like that I don't see why mental health/drug abuse would influence MAID. It's the sole medical part that seems kind of iffy to me, but again I'm no expert and I can empathize with people who wish to expand MAID. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 10/20/23 4:29:16 PM #15:	Axiom posted... Tbf it should be available to everyone though singling out addicted to drugs is definitely eyebrow raising It's just become a cold-hearted "cost-savings" program for the Canadian government. They were against the idea until they figured they could "save taxpayer dollars". --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:976768117] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>Axiom posted... </cite><quote>Tbf it should be available to everyone though singling out addicted to drugs is definitely eyebrow raising</quote>It's just become a cold-hearted "cost-savings" program for the Canadian government. They were against the idea until they figured they could "save taxpayer dollars". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 10/20/23 4:30:54 PM #16:	Tora_Sami posted... MAID should be for everyone, imo. If your tired of living just let it go. Better then people having to find your corpse, majority of the time, in a horrible way. Hm, I definitely see your point here, not sure if I agree but it's definitely worth thinking about. --- You can't spell Trumble without several letters of the English alphabet. <cite>Trumble posted [p:976768145] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>Tora_Sami posted... </cite><quote>MAID should be for everyone, imo. If your tired of living just let it go. Better then people having to find your corpse, majority of the time, in a horrible way.</quote>Hm, I definitely see your point here, not sure if I agree but it's definitely worth thinking about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy 10/20/23 4:36:35 PM #18:	justaguy3492 posted... I was interested in your thoughts on this, but I didn't want to ping you and reopen relatively fresh wounds (but thank you for contributing, and continuing to be open about your experience). The issue I had, and I'm not even 100% on my position, is this part "will be expanded next March to give access to people whose sole medical condition is mental illness, which can include substance use disorders." In your wife's case it makes total sense, she had mental health struggles but that was coupled with a host of other medical issues. In cases like that I don't see why mental health/drug abuse would influence MAID. It's the sole medical part that seems kind of iffy to me, but again I'm no expert and I can empathize with people who wish to expand MAID. I mean, if someone has early Dementia and states they want to use MAID to pass away before they can no longer think for themselves, they have no way to do that now. I truly believe in patient first care and pushing for what they want in so far as they are responsible to their own decision making. --- https://i.imgur.com/GWG5c3r.gif <cite>Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted [p:976768247] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>justaguy3492 posted... </cite><quote>I was interested in your thoughts on this, but I didn't want to ping you and reopen relatively fresh wounds (but thank you for contributing, and continuing to be open about your experience). The issue I had, and I'm not even 100% on my position, is this part "will be expanded next March to give access to people whose sole medical condition is mental illness, which can include substance use disorders." In your wife's case it makes total sense, she had mental health struggles but that was coupled with a host of other medical issues. In cases like that I don't see why mental health/drug abuse would influence MAID. It's the sole medical part that seems kind of iffy to me, but again I'm no expert and I can empathize with people who wish to expand MAID.</quote>I mean, if someone has early Dementia and states they want to use MAID to pass away before they can no longer think for themselves, they have no way to do that now. I truly believe in patient first care and pushing for what they want in so far as they are responsible to their own decision making. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
James_xeno 10/20/23 4:37:47 PM #19:	Canada is basically becoming a loony extremist death cult land at this point. --- http://imgur.com/a/s2O4b Koto and Juri and Ruka oh my! <cite>James_xeno posted [p:976768259] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>Canada is basically becoming a loony extremist death cult land at this point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaiganeer 10/22/23 2:54:56 AM #21:	i mean there should be euthanization clinics that don't screen you for access to it in every country one of the more fucked up things we do as humans to other humans is uphold the idea that everyone should want to live and that if someone doesn't agree, they have to go through a bunch of shit or even be committed to a facility where their suicidal tendencies are "fixed" giving people a safe way out of life should be a basic right <cite>Kaiganeer posted [p:976793418] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>i mean there should be euthanization clinics that don't screen you for access to it in every countryone of the more fucked up things we do as humans to other humans is uphold the idea that everyone should want to live and that if someone doesn't agree, they have to go through a bunch of shit or even be committed to a facility where their suicidal tendencies are "fixed" giving people a safe way out of life should be a basic right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rotterdammerung 10/22/23 3:10:59 AM #22:	Great news for Jordan Peterson --- Evil begins when you begin to treat people as things. GNU STP <cite>Rotterdammerung posted [p:976793518] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>Great news for Jordan Peterson </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nok_Su_Kow 10/22/23 3:35:01 AM #23:	Suck! Suck! Suck! <cite>Nok_Su_Kow posted [p:976793638] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>Suck! Suck! Suck!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
blacklabelice 10/22/23 4:25:30 AM #24:	i'm not sure if euthanasia is supposed to be the cure for drug addiction. --- I cant afford a good vacation, so i'm just going to drink until i dont know where i am. <cite>blacklabelice posted [p:976793918] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>i'm not sure if euthanasia is supposed to be the cure for drug addiction. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gritty 10/22/23 5:16:29 AM #25:	FL81 posted... same vibes https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/7/8/AAOGRhAAE86e.jpg This shit has me rolling <cite>Gritty posted [p:976794145] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>FL81 posted... </cite><quote>same vibeshttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/7/8/AAOGRhAAE86e.jpg</quote>This shit has me rolling</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
justaguy3492 10/22/23 12:21:44 PM #26:	Kaiganeer posted... i mean there should be euthanization clinics that don't screen you for access to it in every country one of the more fucked up things we do as humans to other humans is uphold the idea that everyone should want to live and that if someone doesn't agree, they have to go through a bunch of shit or even be committed to a facility where their suicidal tendencies are "fixed" giving people a safe way out of life should be a basic right So as a society, if people want to end their lives, we should tell them to just go for it without any hassle? Idk about all of that. --- Gt: justaguy3492 <cite>justaguy3492 posted [p:976798155] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>Kaiganeer posted... </cite><quote>i mean there should be euthanization clinics that don't screen you for access to it in every countryone of the more fucked up things we do as humans to other humans is uphold the idea that everyone should want to live and that if someone doesn't agree, they have to go through a bunch of shit or even be committed to a facility where their suicidal tendencies are "fixed" giving people a safe way out of life should be a basic right</quote>So as a society, if people want to end their lives, we should tell them to just go for it without any hassle? Idk about all of that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff_AKA_Snoopy 10/22/23 12:31:05 PM #27:	justaguy3492 posted... So as a society, if people want to end their lives, we should tell them to just go for it without any hassle? Idk about all of that. Unless someone has an irremediable condition (late stage cancer, for example), the process is not immediate. If someone wants to use MAID, they need two different doctors to agree with this course of action with backing medical documentation, and they must wait 90 days before they can use the service. Also, doctors in the meantime are expected to get patients connected with resources that their patient has maybe not accessed. So the idea is not, "Oh you wanna die? Cool, right this way". There are a lot of checks and balances. --- https://i.imgur.com/GWG5c3r.gif <cite>Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted [p:976798287] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>justaguy3492 posted... </cite><quote>So as a society, if people want to end their lives, we should tell them to just go for it without any hassle? Idk about all of that.</quote>Unless someone has an irremediable condition (late stage cancer, for example), the process is not immediate. If someone wants to use MAID, they need two different doctors to agree with this course of action with backing medical documentation, and they must wait 90 days before they can use the service. Also, doctors in the meantime are expected to get patients connected with resources that their patient has maybe not accessed. So the idea is not, "Oh you wanna die? Cool, right this way". There are a lot of checks and balances. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PiOverlord 10/22/23 12:45:21 PM #29:	We, as humans, have no right to choose to live. We are born into this world and are never asked if we want to be a part of it. At the very least, we should have the right to choose to die. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 35, 500th posts: 34; PiO ATTN: 6 RotM wins 1, LETTEN MY ARROW FLYEN TRUE <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:976798480] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>We, as humans, have no right to choose to live. We are born into this world and are never asked if we want to be a part of it. At the very least, we should have the right to choose to die. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
justaguy3492 10/22/23 12:52:29 PM #30:	Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted... Unless someone has an irremediable condition (late stage cancer, for example), the process is not immediate. If someone wants to use MAID, they need two different doctors to agree with this course of action with backing medical documentation, and they must wait 90 days before they can use the service. Also, doctors in the meantime are expected to get patients connected with resources that their patient has maybe not accessed. So the idea is not, "Oh you wanna die? Cool, right this way". There are a lot of checks and balances. I know, I followed your posts a few months back. What you and your wife went through seemed like way too much red tape (if I remember correctly you had to see like 5 different doctors looking for approval?). I was responding to this: Kaiganeer posted... there should be euthanization clinics that don't screen you for access to it in every country --- Gt: justaguy3492 <cite>justaguy3492 posted [p:976798557] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted... </cite><quote>Unless someone has an irremediable condition (late stage cancer, for example), the process is not immediate. If someone wants to use MAID, they need two different doctors to agree with this course of action with backing medical documentation, and they must wait 90 days before they can use the service. Also, doctors in the meantime are expected to get patients connected with resources that their patient has maybe not accessed.So the idea is not, "Oh you wanna die? Cool, right this way". There are a lot of checks and balances.</quote>I know, I followed your posts a few months back. What you and your wife went through seemed like way too much red tape (if I remember correctly you had to see like 5 different doctors looking for approval?). I was responding to this:Kaiganeer posted... </cite><quote>there should be euthanization clinics that don't screen you for access to it in every country</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MisterPengy 10/23/23 5:59:27 PM #31:	How would this even work? "Well Jennifer, you've been to rehab six times now, and you can't seem to stop doing meth. Wanna try just fucking dying instead?" --- Bosses are immune to the eat command so it won't be possible to end the final boss fight of the game by eating it. -VeghEsther <cite>MisterPengy posted [p:976821915] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>How would this even work?"Well Jennifer, you've been to rehab six times now, and you can't seem to stop doing meth. Wanna try just fucking dying instead?" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff_AKA_Snoopy 10/23/23 6:02:48 PM #32:	MisterPengy posted... How would this even work? "Well Jennifer, you've been to rehab six times now, and you can't seem to stop doing meth. Wanna try just fucking dying instead?" Doctors cannot suggest MAID. --- https://i.imgur.com/GWG5c3r.gif <cite>Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted [p:976821958] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>MisterPengy posted... </cite><quote>How would this even work?"Well Jennifer, you've been to rehab six times now, and you can't seem to stop doing meth. Wanna try just fucking dying instead?"</quote>Doctors cannot suggest MAID. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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runewalshPSiv 10/24/23 10:04:25 PM #34:	James_xeno posted... Canada is basically becoming a loony extremist death cult land at this point. This. How long until the canadian goverment starts deeming certain people unfit for society and forces MAID upon them? --- There's no sensation to compare with this Suspended animation, a state of bliss <cite>runewalshPSiv posted [p:976844267] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>James_xeno posted... </cite><quote>Canada is basically becoming a loony extremist death cult land at this point.</quote>This. How long until the canadian goverment starts deeming certain people unfit for society and forces MAID upon them? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff_AKA_Snoopy 10/24/23 10:11:21 PM #35:	runewalshPSiv posted... This. How long until the canadian goverment starts deeming certain people unfit for society and forces MAID upon them? Never. --- https://i.imgur.com/GWG5c3r.gif <cite>Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted [p:976844379] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>runewalshPSiv posted... </cite><quote>This. How long until the canadian goverment starts deeming certain people unfit for society and forces MAID upon them?</quote>Never. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
runewalshPSiv 10/24/23 10:13:08 PM #36:	Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted... Never. I mean I would hope that too but it wouldn't suprise me. --- There's no sensation to compare with this Suspended animation, a state of bliss <cite>runewalshPSiv posted [p:976844408] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted... </cite><quote>Never.</quote>I mean I would hope that too but it wouldn't suprise me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 10/24/23 10:22:54 PM #37:	PiOverlord posted... We, as humans, have no right to choose to live. We are born into this world and are never asked if we want to be a part of it. At the very least, we should have the right to choose to die. This. It should be available to anyone for any reason. Its a service Id probably have used years ago were it available. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:976844568] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>PiOverlord posted... </cite><quote>We, as humans, have no right to choose to live. We are born into this world and are never asked if we want to be a part of it. At the very least, we should have the right to choose to die.</quote>This. It should be available to anyone for any reason. Its a service Id probably have used years ago were it available. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Enclave 10/24/23 10:40:41 PM #38:	runewalshPSiv posted... I mean I would hope that too but it wouldn't suprise me. Only way you would have this sort of opinion is if you are the sort who believes the death panel bullshit in Obama care. --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. <cite>Enclave posted [p:976844812] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>runewalshPSiv posted... </cite><quote>I mean I would hope that too but it wouldn't suprise me.</quote>Only way you would have this sort of opinion is if you are the sort who believes the death panel bullshit in Obama care. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bugmeat 10/24/23 10:42:56 PM #39:	Just stop saving them after their third or fourth OD this year. --- "You know, it's not a bad name really, you know? Um, because diarrhea just kind of flows off the tongue, you know? Diarrhea Jones, yeah." <cite>Bugmeat posted [p:976844844] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>Just stop saving them after their third or fourth OD this year. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shnangyboos 10/24/23 11:07:12 PM #40:	Utopia will feature easily accessible death booths on every corner. Got a problem? We'll fix that shit for good! --- How's my posting? Call http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/182361-human-resource-machine for any comments or concerns. <cite>shnangyboos posted [p:976845139] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>Utopia will feature easily accessible death booths on every corner. Got a problem? We'll fix that shit for good! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trivialbeing 10/24/23 11:07:53 PM #41:	LOL Canada <cite>trivialbeing posted [p:976845145] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>LOL Canada</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trivialbeing 10/24/23 11:09:36 PM #42:	James_xeno posted... Canada is basically becoming a loony extremist death cult land at this point. America soon will be too <cite>trivialbeing posted [p:976845167] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>James_xeno posted... </cite><quote>Canada is basically becoming a loony extremist death cult land at this point.</quote>America soon will be too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robot2600 10/24/23 11:12:08 PM #43:	yall making a big deal about this as if it's not a human right regardless of circumstances --- --- <cite>Robot2600 posted [p:976845192] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>yall making a big deal about this as if it's not a human right regardless of circumstances </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 10/24/23 11:18:02 PM #44:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/4/0/AARebuAAE-Jk.jpg --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:976845275] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/4/0/AARebuAAE-Jk.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 10/24/23 11:22:51 PM #45:	Ricemills posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/4/0/AARebuAAE-Jk.jpg fuckin' LOL <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:976845342] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/4/0/AARebuAAE-Jk.jpg</quote>fuckin' LOL</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trivialbeing 10/24/23 11:25:51 PM #46:	Ricemills posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/4/0/AARebuAAE-Jk.jpg Spot on. <cite>trivialbeing posted [p:976845401] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/4/0/AARebuAAE-Jk.jpg</quote>Spot on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 10/24/23 11:49:55 PM #47:	Robot2600 posted... yall making a big deal about this as if it's not a human right regardless of circumstances It should be a human right, but as we know, people with terminal illnesses have fought for years - literally to their dying breath - and been denied. And an uncomfortable number of people agree with that denial, even though its just as much their business (none) as someone elses abortion. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:976845751] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>Robot2600 posted... </cite><quote>yall making a big deal about this as if it's not a human right regardless of circumstances</quote>It should be a human right, but as we know, people with terminal illnesses have fought for years - literally to their dying breath - and been denied.And an uncomfortable number of people agree with that denial, even though its just as much their business (none) as someone elses abortion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkAssassin89 10/24/23 11:52:33 PM #48:	Tora_Sami posted... MAID should be for everyone, imo. If your tired of living just let it go. Better then people having to find your corpse, majority of the time, in a horrible way. I 100% agree with this. Why make someone either suffer endlessly or try to end their own pain in a way which can be horribly botched and/or awful for whoever finds them even if they succeed? --- Dark89 <cite>DarkAssassin89 posted [p:976845783] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>Tora_Sami posted... </cite><quote>MAID should be for everyone, imo. If your tired of living just let it go. Better then people having to find your corpse, majority of the time, in a horrible way.</quote>I 100% agree with this. Why make someone either suffer endlessly or try to end their own pain in a way which can be horribly botched and/or awful for whoever finds them even if they succeed? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 10/24/23 11:55:49 PM #49:	DarkAssassin89 posted... I 100% agree with this. Why make someone either suffer endlessly or try to end their own pain in a way which can be horribly botched and/or awful for whoever finds them even if they succeed? Because religious bullshit still permeates politics. Suicide is a sin is what all opposition to MAID comes down to regardless of how they try to dress it up. Same with same-sex marriage. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:976845827] in Canada con... [t:80597788]...</cite> <quote>DarkAssassin89 posted... </cite><quote>I 100% agree with this. Why make someone either suffer endlessly or try to end their own pain in a way which can be horribly botched and/or awful for whoever finds them even if they succeed?</quote>Because religious bullshit still permeates politics. Suicide is a sin is what all opposition to MAID comes down to regardless of how they try to dress it up.Same with same-sex marriage. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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