Current Events > If you just do your job, your disliked for some reason.

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Why is that those who just do their job, what they're paid to do and nothin more are hated the most amongst their colleagues. For some apparent reason, people have an issue with those who 'just get on with it' and not socialise. Not everyone is a social butterfly, that doesn't warrant clear contempt on some level for bein the 'quiet odd 1 out' at work.

If your quiet your treated with so much unconscious prejudice it's ridiculous, like who the fuck makes these unspoken rules. Not everyone feels comfortable in social gatherin's, especially around conceited arseholes who treat you like nothin.

I mean, if you aren't fun or interesting, you are just dead weight that could presumably be filled in by another team member who could both do their job, and be pleasant to interact with. There are also people who might not have a job that depends on you doing yours competently, and to them, it isn't going to matter whether you do your job or not, all that matters is literally whether you are pleasant to interact with.

lotta angles here, lotta factors. but from what it sounds like, you aren't just silent, you also refuse to participate in social activity and there's no clear reason why (to them), which could be misunderstood as your dislike of the parties involved.

people also tend to prefer things they're familiar with, and people too. thus they'll include or prioritize those they know over those that are basically just shadows on the wall.

then there's also the idea that people are just assholes in general and has nothing to do with anyone being silent. and so on and so on...

Because fuck the corporations. Get away with doing as little as possible.

Sounds as if the contempt and lack of respect is mutual. You accuse colleagues of 'prejudice' and call them 'conceited assholes'.

Humans are generally social creatures, and exceptions are often looked upon with suspicion.

This is not my experience. Have you tried being attractive? It comes with a lot of perks

Even as an antisocial person, I do at least understand that people tend to like you if you are sociable and if you aren't, they will think you're strange and mistrust you.

That's not saying you have to be a social butterfly, but maintaining an amicable outward appearance can only benefit you. That and being good at making up excuses for not hanging out. It isn't neccesary to spend time with people as long as you act friendly enough when you do see them. Lie, lie and lie some more until you fool even yourself.

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CoyoteTheGreat posted...

I mean, if you aren't fun or interesting, you are just dead weight that could presumably be filled in by another team member who could both do their job, and be pleasant to interact with. There are also people who might not have a job that depends on you doing yours competently, and to them, it isn't going to matter whether you do your job or not, all that matters is literally whether you are pleasant to interact with.

ye but they don't know if I'm fun or interestin if they haven't bothered to interact with me. When people get to truly know me, they find that I'm very unique which is an interestin trait in itself.

It's ironic that most people who are perceived to be interestin are dull as dishwater. Most people don't stfu about their borin family lives with their fancy wife and kids, or gettin pissed on the weekend. That's literally all they talk about, yet people gravitate to these kind of people because society places 'status' on a pedastool above all else. I've always found the quiet ones to be the most interestin yet these are the ones treated with the most derision.

That bein said, I can see your point, at the end of the day we're just cogs in a wheel, and the ship keeps sailin regardless.

GuerrillaSoldier posted...

lotta angles here, lotta factors. but from what it sounds like, you aren't just silent, you also refuse to participate in social activity and there's no clear reason why (to them), which could be misunderstood as your dislike of the parties involved.

people also tend to prefer things they're familiar with, and people too. thus they'll include or prioritize those they know over those that are basically just shadows on the wall.

then there's also the idea that people are just assholes in general and has nothing to do with anyone being silent. and so on and so on...

It's a combination of all those factors, especially in the environment I work. It's such a regimented culture, almost like a military operation. As a result, this enables people to be stuck up arseholes to anyone they perceive beneath them. Body language speaks volumes, it's not normal for colleagues to give you nothin but awkward silence.

This has persisted for a year for no apparent reason, which suggests it's either my shy personality or there's some unconscious prejudice on some level. They don't even say hi, the odd few are friendly but most treat me like a fuckin alien. I've had similar experiences in other workplaces which suggests it's definitely to do with how I look. Maybe my big nose isn't glamorous enough to share their privileged air space. I've been bullied for that in other jobs and throughout school. I was also bullied for my eye twitchin, which is attributed to my anxiety. I've always proven to be a good dependable worker in every role, it's just a shame that the hostile attitude from those around me doesn't reflect my contribution to the cause.

Your "sticking it" to the man by work to ruling hurts your colleagues more. People need to work as a team. Even if its not explicitly stated in your contract -- WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY!

BloodMoon7 posted...

Even as an antisocial person, I do at least understand that people tend to like you if you are sociable and if you aren't, they will think you're strange and mistrust you.

That's not saying you have to be a social butterfly, but maintaining an amicable outward appearance can only benefit you. That and being good at making up excuses for not hanging out. It isn't neccesary to spend time with people as long as you act friendly enough when you do see them. Lie, lie and lie some more until you fool even yourself.

My energy is generally not reciprocated by these people, whenever I try to interact with them they talk over me or dismiss me abruptly. They talk down to me and often put their head down immediately if they catch eye contact with me. Most of them don't say a single word to me, they're fully aware that I'm an effective worker yet they treat me with so much hostility just because I'm quiet. It just hurts man, I'm very sensitive to this as I've always been a worrier. I've proved my value at this place, often bein told that I'm brilliant my job yet most of them barely acknowledge my existence.

Jiek_Fafn posted...

This is not my experience. Have you tried being attractive? It comes with a lot of perks

From the front facin I'm a good lookin guy, but from the side I look like a fuckin pelican. When you have such a glarin imperfection like a massive curved nose, you're open to so much prejudice. It's honestly like a birds beak, I haven't let it disrupt my work performance but I do have very low self esteem as a result of my 'roman nose' and short height (5'5). Whenever I've taken pictures from the side,

I've had a couple girlfriends over the last 3 years, I do have a beautiful free spirit which is of value. My eyes are my most attractive feature, that's why I've been told I'm good lookin on profile pictures for instance but good lord my side is horrific. I've even considered rhinoplasty but I'm not payin my life savings for a cosmetic procedure, although it would probably change my life tbh.

BloodMoon7 posted...

if you aren't, they will think you're strange and mistrust you.

I remember being surprised to find out my coworkers thought something similar about me. When I worked as a theatre projectionist, I didn't really interact with most of the other workers. I'd come down from the booth, fill up a cup with pop, and go back upstairs. When a new guy was working with me, a projector broke and he was afraid to tell me. He thought I was going to scream and yell at him because the general impression I gave off was that I was grumpy and mean. Was a real wake-up call and after that I at least tried saying hi to people as I walked by them.

I will admit that I may have expressed frustration with him if he had messed up something simple that would take a bit to fix. But not in this case. A screw had broken and sheared off, causing a part misalignment. No way would I blame him for something like that. Failure due to wear and tear wasn't his fault.

Is there like, an introvert version of histrionic? "Give me attention while I avoid engagement" or somesuch deal.

I dunno, seems normal

most people don't go to work just to do the bare minimum, and if they do they aren't liked by their coworkers

I only interact with those who are friendly to me, I've tried with the majority but they've often blanked me so why should I bother to give these fuckers my energy?. For a while I was sayin hi as I crossed paths with them only to be outright blanked each time. Body language speaks volumes, ignorance is never bliss. I honestly dread it whenever I'm workin with a few of them at a time, the awkward silence towards me is insufferable. Occasionally you get new workers who are initially friendly then over time they conform to the established click and treat you just like how they treat you. Then there's the few that you do get on with who give you mixed signals, 1 minute overly friendly the next treat you like your nothin. I've said this before on this forum but it's worth repeatin, if your perceived indifferent in any way you'll be treated as such. Funny how these organisations love to promote 'an open diverse culture' yet so much unconscious prejudice exists.

There's many factors against me; my big unconventional nose, short height, introverted personality, social anxiety, generalised anxiety, depression, lack of independence, involuntary eye twitchin. These all appear abnormal to the naked eye, yet these traits make me a very understandin person which is reflected in my work performance supportin others and ensurin their safety.

This has very strong "mostly in your head" energy.

I interact with people as little as possible at work & have 0 issues

Capitalism demands that workers debase and demean themselves whenever they can so that our corporate overlords can do even better than they already are.

That's why you saw so much pushback against "quiet quitting", which was really just people deciding they're going to do only the work required of them.

Capitalist propaganda runs deep in Western societies.

Kradek posted...

That's why you saw so much pushback against "quiet quitting", which was really just people deciding they're going to do only the work required of them.

In my experience, coworkers would help each other to do that before it had a name.

From my experience if you work in a way that you're a team like working on the same Press, line work, etc it can be a very monotonous.

Sometimes talking can help alleviate that monotony and even make time go by a little faster.

I would love to be able to chat with coworkers but the only subjects they ever seem to be into is shit-talking whoever's outside earshot and I can't stand gossip.

Can an employer fire you for not fittin in and socialisin?. Someone on reddit mentioned that their employer did everythin possible to fire their sorry arse because they were too quiet and didn't socialise with the staff. Surely that's grounds for unfair dismissal, as far as I know they can't just sack you for bein highly introverted.

It makes for an interestin discussion as we can all relate to workplace politics or being an outcast in general.

Raikuro posted...

I would love to be able to chat with coworkers but the only subjects they ever seem to be into is shit-talking whoever's outside earshot and I can't stand gossip.

ye there's so many two faced people out there. Some will be friendly to your face then as soon as you leave the room they'll bitch about you like your a piece of shit. You see a different side to people when they're amongst their 'besties'. They can put on this act towards you that is essentially known as 'toxic positivity'. I see through their bullshit, it's so fake and obvious.

When someone is overly friendly, it's generally not genuine at all unless they truly connect with you. Their mask slips the moment they're amongst their 'bestie', all of a sudden they can become arrogant and full of themself.

I've even heard 1 of them slag me off to her 'bestie', thinkin I was out of earshot. I was in the toilet and heard almost every word, they said somethin like "He's got a.." then the other replied "shhhh you can't say that". Then I left the toilet and they tried to save face by puttin on the fake mask of positivity towards me, thinkin I didn't hear a word. This told me everythin about them in that brief moment, I'm civil with them specifically but I know for a fact they aren't genuine. I told 1 of them I no longer want to get the taxi home with her, she was basically usin me to pay for her rides home. I told her I'm gettin the bus instead from now on, she was confused and asked if she did somethin wrong which revealed to me that she's a very insecure person beneath the narcissistic bravado.

Basically, many people are fundamentally very judgemental. Even the ones that seemingly seem nice will bitch about you the moment your back is turned, especially amongst their 'besties'. If your perceived low status your a target for contempt and ridicule. I don't like most people for this reason, because most treat me a certain way that is perceived 'beneath them'. It's just a sad world we live in.

Some jobs require you to be socially competent

Victim complex the topic

It's unfortunate that some workplaces may have a bias against individuals who prefer to focus solely on their job and may not engage in social interactions as much. The reasons for this phenomenon can vary.

Perceived Lack of Teamwork: Some colleagues might interpret the quiet and reserved behavior as a lack of teamwork or collaboration, which can be important in many workplaces.

Misunderstanding: People might misunderstand introverted or reserved individuals as being unfriendly, when they're simply more focused on their tasks.

Pressure to Conform: There can be an expectation in some workplaces for everyone to socialize or act in a certain way, and those who don't conform may face prejudice.

Communication Skills: In some fields, strong communication and networking skills are highly valued, and those who don't excel in these areas can be undervalued.

It's essential for workplaces to be more inclusive and understanding of different personality types and communication styles. Building a diverse and harmonious work environment means respecting and valuing all types of contributions, whether they come from social butterflies or quieter individuals. Prejudice or contempt based on someone's personality is unfair and counterproductive to a healthy work environment.

TC gave zero examples of how he was treated unfairly compared to his peers.

TC after a fresh cut:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/6/8/AAJxOBAAE9Wc.jpg

Isn't this your second topic on this?

Just fake enthusiasm around those types

You sound like the kind of person that's probably always projecting a miserable attitude. I'm a pretty quiet dude at work and I don't really socialize with any of them, but I help people when they need it and keep a positive attitude and I'm pretty well liked.

PesticideDream posted...

You sound like the kind of person that's probably always projecting a miserable attitude. I'm a pretty quiet dude at work and I don't really socialize with any of them, but I help people when they need it and keep a positive attitude and I'm pretty well liked.

In my experience, the quiet helpful guy is universally liked. There's one in every unit.

My work has a good balance. Experienced coworkers will talk shit about you if you dont do your job but will also encourage you to say no when the admin asks for unpaid volunteers on a new task.