Current Events > Reading R/Conservative right now is fucking cathartic.

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ArtiRock posted...

If my family members that actually believed stupid things like this woke up from this stupidity, my first response would be joy, but not to laugh at them, but because they finally woke the fuck up.

They didn't "wake up" here. They are just flailing around in confusion prior to the next cult leader taking charge. Hence why literally not a single one will change in the slightest.

ellis123 posted...

They didn't "wake up" here. They are just flailing around in confusion prior to the next cult leader taking charge. Hence why literally not a single one will change in the slightest.

If that's the case, then I have better things to do than laugh at them. And so should everyone else.

ArtiRock posted...

If you can describe something as "you can feel the depression" off of them, that's literally not something to laugh about.

But why are they depressed?

Oh right its because trump isn't mass arresting democrats and throwing trans people into concentration camps.

Fuck. Them.

ArtiRock posted...

If that's the case, then I have better things to do than laugh at them. And so should everyone else.

Clearly not as you are still in this topic. Heck, you being in this topic at all is just just an attempt at pontifying about how others should live: the definition of someone not really having something better to do.

ellis123 posted...

Clearly not as you are still in this topic. Heck, you being in this topic at all is just just an attempt at pontifying about how others should live: the definition of someone not really having something better to do.

I don't have something better to do besides point and laugh at people that are supposedly depressed is one hell of a take.

Humble_Novice posted...

*republican dumbshittery*

I think my favorite parts were

1. Dipshit right winger still believing the dems are ballot harvesting.

2. Dipshit right winger using both "their" and "there" for the same thing within two sentences.

ArtiRock posted...

I don't have something better to do besides point and laugh at people that are supposedly depressed is one hell of a take.

Oh no, I do have better things to do. I just explicitly am putting those things aside to point and laugh at them. I just am not so full of crap that I would make such a moronic argument in serious.

ArtiRock posted...

If that's the case, then I have better things to do than laugh at them. And so should everyone else.

Want to know why I look at their forums? Its not so that i can mock them. Its because prior to jan 6 they were calling for mass violence and terrorism. There were people saying they wanted to stop postal workers in the middle of the street and execute them because of the mail ballots.

I want to know whether or not its safe to even go to the university I work at when the time comes and trump is arrested.

Again. Fuck them. My only hope for them is that they have a tiny shred of humanity left and end themselves instead of doing a mass shooting.

ArtiRock posted...

..... No. That is not what I said. At all. The fuck?

Umm... No? Maybe I'm just not Internet I'll, but when I find someone is finally realizing they were stupid my response isn't to point and laugh.

We aren't talking about Prince Zuko here, as in broken people who were being bad but still had honorable characteristics and just "lost their way." We're talking about people who reveled in racism (and frankly were even doing so long before MAGA), pettiness, elitism, fascism, sexism, and the list goes on.

Everything my Memaw helped raise me up not to be is what these people chose to be. And I'm sure a lot of them had people like that in their life telling them not to do that shit, but chose to do it anyway.

Hell, a lot of these people are STILL in the mindset of all of that and just lamenting that the election probably won't go their way; they're just embarrassed that part of the reason why is their party is so dysfunctional.

I'm not going to get mad at anyone who isn't so quick to want to have a "come to Jesus" talk with these folk.

ArtiRock posted...

If that's the case, then I have better things to do than laugh at them. And so should everyone else.

There is always time to show contempt for fascists whose plans backfire. Fuck them.

@ArtiRock

Why do you like seeing people mentally break? If anything wouldn't this be the time to start telling them the truth rather than revel in your morality?

This really isn't about morality.

The conservative GOP movement has been spent years, the last 8 in particular empowering clowns in our government. Even now most of them still empower clowns and go through a gymnastics to blame Democrats or the left when the clowns now run their party.

Tell them truth? As if the truth hasn't been told to these people for years? As if it isn't told to them as we speak?

Cry me a river. People have been telling the GOP the truth for years, and they ignored that to empower clowns with their frontrunner being the biggest clown that oh BTW they still twist into knots protect.

mercurydude posted...

We aren't talking about Prince Zuko here, as in broken people who were being bad but still had honorable characteristics and just "lost their way." We're talking about people who reveled in racism (and frankly were even doing so long before MAGA), pettiness, elitism, fascism, sexism, and the list goes on.

Everything my Memaw helped raise me up not to be is what these people chose to be. And I'm sure a lot of them had people like that in their life telling them not to do that shit, but chose to do it anyway.

Hell, a lot of these people are STILL in the mindset of all of that and just lamenting that the election probably won't go their way; they're just embarrassed that part of the reason why is their party is so dysfunctional.

I'm not going to get mad at anyone who isn't so quick to want to have a "come to Jesus" talk with these folk.

I'm not mad either for people not having a "come to Jesus" talk. I just find it disgusting that someone could describe people as depressed and low morale and think that's something to actually point and laugh about. Let alone find it cathartic.

Like I said, I have family members that are deluded like this, so describing them as "seeing the bubble break away" reads as a "they woke up." I certainly wouldn't be laughing at my family members that did. I'd be thanking my stars.

That's more of the reason I said what I did, and the response from randos on here is "derp, why don't we deserve to laugh at them?" And the answer to that is, "that's pretty fucked up to laugh at them." I'd be doing anything but laughing at seeing a mental basket case. It's not funny. It's horrifying to be honest. But apparently I'm the villain here because CE gonna CE.

ellis123 posted...

Oh no, I do have better things to do. I just explicitly am putting those things aside to point and laugh at them. I just am not so full of crap that I would make such a moronic argument in serious.

I have no idea what you're going on about.

asdf8562 posted...

This really isn't about morality.

The conservative GOP movement has been spent years, the last 8 in particular empowering clowns in our government. Even now most of them still empower clowns and go through a gymnastics to blame Democrats or the left when the clowns now run their party.

Tell them truth? As if the truth hasn't been told to these people for years? As if it isn't told to them as we speak?

Cry me a river.

Again, this is a gross misrepresentation of what was said in the first post.

People that are about empowering corrupt fools don't deserve any sort of mercy for you telling the truth. But if you see them being depressed and low morale as it's described in the OP, are you literally going to laugh at that?

This isn't a "cry me a river."

Like seriously everyone is on some sort of rage machine nonsense rather than making sense.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/7/7/AAZiIlAAE9Wl.jpg

How delicious that this is a top post rn.

Man wonder if this guy will defend Nazis if people cheer for their suffering due to their own actions that actively harm people.

And they won't learn anything and will continue to vote for the fascist party.

ArtiRock posted...

I just find it disgusting that someone could describe people as depressed and low morale

Again

Its critically important to the ask why these people are depressed and have low morale.

Mom died of cancer? No.
Lost their job? No.

They are low morale because they are failing to execute a political strategy that would terrorize millions of people across the country.

ArtiRock posted...

I have no idea what you're going on about.

That isn't exactly something you needed to post. Everyone already understood that.

Shadow_Don posted...

Again

Its critically important to the ask why these people are depressed and have low morale.

Mom died of cancer? No.
Lost their job? No.

They are low morale because they are failing to execute a political strategy that would terrorize millions of people across the country.

Yeah but mom dying of cancer could be the emotional void being filled by the death cult.

EDIT: just want to be clear that I'm not defending these harmful idiots

ArtiRock posted...

Again, this is a gross misrepresentation of what was said in the first post.

People that are about empowering corrupt fools don't deserve any sort of mercy for you telling the truth. But if you see them being depressed and low morale as it's described in the OP, are you literally going to laugh at that?

Yes.

I didn't misrepresent anything. You have people actively and intentionally trying destroy shit, and you want me to cry a river (or whatever flowery way you want to word it) because they are sad things aren't going the way they expected because they spent years promoting extremist clowns that are literally messing up their own plans.

No I'm not going to start feeling sorry for people like that. These same people are still promoting clowns, with the frontrunner being the ring leader of all the clown, Trump. Boo fucking hoo for the people sad their plans aren't going according to plan due to things they are actively still doing, was told they should stop doing, but keep doing it anyway.

WrestlinFan posted...

Yeah but mom dying of cancer could be the emotional void being filled by the death cult.

EDIT: just want to be clear that I'm not defending these harmful idiots

I mean sure but plenty of people deal with cancer in ways that don't involve turning into fascist psychopaths.

LightHawKnight posted...

Man wonder if this guy will defend Nazis if people cheer for their suffering due to their own actions that actively harm people.

This is not the same thing. And you know that.
Shadow_Don posted...

Again

Its critically important to the ask why these people are depressed and have low morale.

Mom died of cancer? No.
Lost their job? No.

They are low morale because they are failing to execute a political strategy that would terrorize millions of people across the country.

And you are missing the critical point of what I responded to. It does matter why they are low morale if you describe it as "Slowly but surely the delusion and bubble that the cons wrapped themselves around is slowly breaking away and you can feel the depression and low morale getting to them."

This reads as "they woke up" and I'm laughing at them.

Because if you just said "I just have to laugh at how these people continue to make up nonsense to support their delusions" that is one thing. It's another to say what OP did. Because that doesn't imply that the delusions are gone.

ArtiRock posted...

But if you see them being depressed and low morale as it's described in the OP, are you literally going to laugh at that?

Yes. Like your logic is so dumb. You the type to be like "Hitler didn't get his way and he's depressed. That doesn't mean you get to just laugh at his depression which stems from not being able to complete is fascist dreams"

asdf8562 posted...

Yes.

I didn't misrepresent anything. You have people actively and intentionally trying destroy shit, and you want me to cry a river (or whatever flowery way you want to word) because they are sad things aren't going the way they expected because they spent years promoting clowns that are literally messing up their own plans.

No I'm not going to start feeling sorry for people like that. These same people are still promoting clowns, with the frontrunner being the ring leader of all the clown, Trump. Boo fucking hoo for the people sad their plans aren't going according to plan due to things they are actively still doing, was told they should stop doing, but keep doing it anyway.

No. You did.

No. I don't want you to cry a river. Like for fucks sake.

That is not what was even said in the least.

Like literally people are just saying whatever the fuck and clearly not reading what I'm saying.

luigi33 posted...

Yes. Like your logic is so dumb. You the type to be like "Hitler didn't get his way and he's depressed. That doesn't mean you get to just laugh at his depression which stems from not being able to complete is fascist dreams"

Considering that depression led to him being a psychotic person that ended up doing what he did, the entire subject isn't funny in the least. So no, the logic isn't dumb. Your analogy is nonsensical. Because that is not what "I'd be the type to be like." I'd be the type that would say his depression isn't funny, and his fascism is a disgrace and should be put to a stop. There can be moments where things just aren't funny.

ArtiRock posted...

Slowly but surely the delusion and bubble that the cons wrapped themselves around is slowly breaking away and you can feel the depression and low morale getting to them."

But the political positions they hold are the same. They still want trans people in concentration camps. They still want to shut down universities. They still want to mass arrest dems.

The delusion they are waking up from isn't that those ideas are obviously insane. They are simply realizing that the republican party isn't competent enough to execute their goals.

ArtiRock posted...

No. You did.

No. I don't want you to cry a river. Like for f***s sake.

That is not what was even said in the least.

Like literally people are just saying whatever the f*** and clearly not reading what I'm saying.

I don't care how you dress it up and put it in a bow. I don't care how to try to word it, or phrase it in a flowery way to go the bleeding heart angle of why you think I should care for these people being sad about something they intentionally caused, still intentionally causing and it's looking to backfire in the face.

I didn't misrepresent you arguing some wild angle I should be feeling sorry for these people in any capacity. No matter what that angle is getting at, no matter how you word it that says I shouldn't laugh at them.

Shadow_Don posted...

But the political positions they hold are the same. They still want trans people in concentration camps. They still want to shut down universities. They still want to mass arrest dems.

The delusion they are waking up from isn't that those ideas are obviously insane. They are simply realizing that the republican party isn't competent enough to execute their goals.

Which is by no means funny.

And I still don't find it funny. No one should. If anything, the fact that there response is to still push for fascism is horrifying. There's nothing cathartic about that.

asdf8562 posted...

I don't care how you dress it up and put it in a bow. I don't care how to try to word it, or phrase it in a flowery way to go the bleeding heart angle of why you think I should care for these people being sad about something they intentionally caused, still intentionally causing and it's looking to backfire in the face.

I didn't misrepresent you arguing some wild angle I should be feeling sorry for these people in any capacity. No matter what that angle is getting at, no matter how you word it that says I shouldn't laugh at them.

Dress what up? The fact that I'm saying seeing delusional people be delusional isn't funny?

Yeah, you are. Because you seem to be under the impression that I'm somehow endorsing their delusions or behaviors. You even have people saying that "I'd be the type to say defend Nazis" when there have been topics where I've been completely and utterly against them.

Love how they get butthurt about every single little thing in the world, sensitive bitches

ArtiRock posted...

And I still don't find it funny. No one should.

It's normal to find overly grim things funny. It's called gallows humor.

ArtiRock posted...

Which is by no means funny.

And I still don't find it funny. No one should. If anything, the fact that there response is to still push for fascism is horrifying. There's nothing cathartic about that.

Nazis losing is both funny and cathartic.

Sorry if that hurts your feelings.

Guide posted...

It's normal to find overly grim things funny. It's called gallows humor.

I can't really find this particular brand funny. Especially because it's not gallows humor. Because they've tried to do things, and just because they've failed this time. Doesn't mean that they will always fail.

ArtiRock posted...

Because they've tried to do things, and just because they've failed this time. Doesn't mean that they will always fail.

Which is is quite grim, which is the basis of gallows humor. Some call it a coping mechanism.

Shadow_Don posted...

Nazis losing is both funny and cathartic.

Sorry if that hurts your feelings.

Well yes, Nazis losing is cathartic.

People have some massive issues on here. Now I'm remembering why the fuck Godwin's law even became a thing.

Guide posted...

Which is is quite grim, which is the basis of gallows humor. Some call it a coping mechanism.

In this case, that's the problem though, because gallows humor means it's hopeless in a sense. It definitely isn't hopeless. They've actually made strides at things. So no, I still cannot find anything about that funny.

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When the first post says it's cathartic to see people that's delusional bubble is popping I don't see how that's anything to find join in. Or laugh at.

ArtiRock posted...

Well yes, Nazis losing is cathartic.

People have some massive issues on here. Now I'm remembering why the fuck Godwin's law even became a thing.

I'll be perfectly happy to stop calling them nazis if they want to go back to arguing about taxes instead of trying to overthrow the country.

Shadow_Don posted...

I'll be perfectly happy to stop calling them nazis if they want to go back to arguing about taxes instead of trying to overthrow the country.

Your posts are not making any goddamned sense. I don't care if you call them nazis. I'm more so talking about the insanity of saying "sorry if that hurts your feelings." Like... None of this makes any fucking sense to me at this point, and now I'm under the impression that people are screaming at me because I don't find this funny.

ArtiRock posted...

In this case, that's the problem though, because gallows humor means it's hopeless in a sense. It definitely isn't hopeless. They've actually made strides at things. So no, I still cannot find anything about that funny.

That's okay, not everyone has to have the same sense of humor. I consider hopelessness more of a feeling than a measurable attribute, since it's usually infeasible to tell if a thing is literally impossible or just, itself, infeasible.

ArtiRock posted...

Which is by no means funny.

And I still don't find it funny. No one should. If anything, the fact that there response is to still push for fascism is horrifying. There's nothing cathartic about that.

Dress what up? The fact that I'm saying seeing delusional people be delusional isn't funny?

Yeah, you are. Because you seem to be under the impression that I'm somehow endorsing their delusions or behaviors. You even have people saying that "I'd be the type to say defend Nazis" when there have been topics where I've been completely and utterly against them.

Based off you going this bleeding heart angle to ignore Republican leadership INTENTIONALLY enables and stillINTENTIONALLY enables extremist clowns, I'd agree with their assessment of you.

You are attempting this bleeding heart angle that people should be not happy these people are sad their plans are fucked up. These people intentionally promoting extremist clowns even to this day, and it's not a mystery what's going on as everyone has told them what's the problem, they only care about power.

It was just a day ago that most Republicans voted for fucking Jim Jordan, a maga clown who has nothing but cause chaos and tear shit up. These are words from members of their own party, and yet most voted for him anyway. The entire reason they are missing a Speaker in the first place is because they prop up clowns like Gaetz and Trump.

That's just two of the many examples of the GOP INTENTIONALLY propping up extremist clowns.

Instead of doing the right thing, they enable clowns. The only reason they are sad is because the clowns they enabled for so long are fucking up their plans to subtly fuck over disenfranchised groups. Can't do that so easily when the clowns they enabled for so long are making things difficult.

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No. They don't make any sense. The only person that seems to understand what I've been saying is Guide. The rest of you have been saying some crazy shit. I don't find it funny to laugh at people that supposedly broke.

When people are saying "no, they didn't learn, they just found new delusions." I still don't find this funny. And for some reason people are getting out the pitchforks for this and somehow saying "I'd defend Nazis." How in the fuck hell does that make any sense to you?
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Which yeah, sure. Fuck 'em for that. What's that got to do at laughing at a mental basket case?

asdf8562 posted...

Based off you going this bleeding heart angle to ignore Republican leadership INTENTIONALLY enables and still INTENTIONALLY enables extremist clowns, I'd agree with their assessment of you.

You are attempting this bleeding heart angle that people should be sad for these people intentionally promoting extremist clowns even to this day.

It was just a day ago that most Republicans voted for fucking Jim Jordan, a maga clown who has nothing but cause chaos and tear shit up. These are words from members of their own party, and yet most voted for him anyway. The entire reason they are missing a Speaker in the first place is because they prop up clowns like Gaetz and Trump.

That's just two of the many examples of the GOP INTENTIONALLY propping up extremist clowns.

Instead of doing the right thing, they enable clowns. The only reason they are sad is because the clowns they enabled for so long are fucking up their plans to subtly fuck over disenfranchised groups. Can't do that so easily when the clowns they enabled for so long are making things difficult.

And what part of this is actually funny?

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No. They don't. I said it's not funny, and your response is "these people are awful people." Okay, and where is that funny? Please explain how me saying "it's not really funny" is somehow this. Like... The fuck?

ArtiRock posted...

now I'm under the impression that people are screaming at me because I don't find this funny.

Nah thats fucking bullshit. Nobody is saying you must find this funny "or else".

People are mad at you because you are asking us to have empathy where its clearly not appropriate.

ArtiRock posted...

Your posts are not making any goddamned sense. I don't care if you call them nazis. I'm more so talking about the insanity of saying "sorry if that hurts your feelings." Like... None of this makes any fucking sense to me at this point, and now I'm under the impression that people are screaming at me because I don't find this funny.

I know this will come off as crass no matter how I say it, but I mean with sincerity and explanation rather than being a jerk: It seems like you have a disconnect with people in general. Like, the stuff you're saying you don't get is very basic, intuited/empathized stuff for the average person.

Why has one dude spent literally the entire topic sea lioning on behalf of terrible people?

Shadow_Don posted...

Nah thats fucking bullshit. Nobody is saying you must find this funny "or else".

People are mad at you because you are asking us to have empathy where its clearly not appropriate.

If someone woke up? Yeah, I goddamned would.

Guide posted...

I know this will come off as crass no matter how I say it, but I mean with sincerity and explanation rather than being a jerk: It seems like you have a disconnect with people in general. Like, the stuff you're saying you don't get is very basic, intuited/empathized stuff for the average person.

I'm actually feeling like I have a disconnect with people on CE in general. This does not happen in my friend groups in the least.

inb4 my friend groups are insulted and dragged through the mud.

Raptornado posted...

Why has one dude spent literally the entire topic sea lioning on behalf of terrible people?

It's not that. It's this genuine belief that it's better to keep trying to convert even .001% of bad guys, rather than get some catharsis out of mockery.

And I mean, I agree with that. It's strictly true.

It is also not at all how people work.

ArtiRock posted...

If someone woke up? Yeah, I goddamned would.

They didn't "wake up" you fucking bozo.

They are just mad that their leadership isn't doing a good enough job for the political project of terrorizing liberals and lgbt people.

ArtiRock posted...

don't find it funny to laugh at people that supposedly broke.

We understand what you're saying.

We don't give a shit intentionally destructive people, who are still actively enable destructive extremist clowns, who plan to harm disenfranchised people, but are sad the clowns they are still enabling makes it harder to hurt disenfranchised people...... are broken that they can't hurt disenfranchised people due to clowns they still openly enable/support and everyone has warned those clowns are dangerous for America and your party.

Boohoo these people are broken.